oleg voloshin, ukrainian politician diplomat oleg , connects to our air via skype maybe, of course, not comparable in scale to what it was in the middle of the 20th century, but much larger than those who defeated the third reich in such ugly forms in the forty-fifth year could imagine and most of all today it is aimed precisely at the formation of such an information field , which both dehumanizes us and belittles our honor and dignity of culture. therefore , i think that it is in the first place in such forms that it is being revived. igor, what do you think? i believe that we can confidently talk about not so much the ideology of nazism in its purest form. how much is the ideology of kryptonazism and primarily in the region of eastern central europe which is connected with the destruction of the soviet union and the formation of new national identities of the new historical narrative are those states where the basis of historical politics is the selective representation of the image of national heroes. and which i take as a national hero , of course, in quotation marks that appear in the historical narrative, i will look low, as the third alternative, as people who allegedly opposed both the stalinist and hitler regimes, and therefore they are supposedly e forerunners. if it is necessary to say that such approaches were typical not only for belarus, ukraine , the baltic states, but also for russia, well, remember the attempts to show vlasov as a hero of the russian resistance and those collaborators. well, here are attempts to defend dissertations with positive ropes associated with vlas. that is, she was born immediately after the ninety-first year. it was connected with the fact that the information field, including the historical one , was filled with texts of those who were abroad. and whoever was declared a prisoner of conscience was declared the true last resort, and we see these things today in very vivid relief. well, and, accordingly. it's completely conscious reading the history of the second world war with a clear emphasis on showing the hypertrophied role of the one that in fact was not in the victory in the second world war of the allies of the americans, but in fact today we see that the effect of vaccinations from nazism received, and the world after the second world war nuremberg trials are starting to weaken in your opinion, what is the reason? could you have guessed this? could our ancestors have imagined that we would come to this in 2020? from the third year in the twenty- second twenty-first. that is, you know if we look closely at the analogy of the vaccine, indeed, uh, then the different results of, say, the fight against coronavirus in different countries are manifested in particular in the fact that there is a difference in how the vaccine was used in general. uh was prescribed once, twice, and so on, in exactly the same way, and a much more complex phenomenon, if public, like the nazi ideology, of course, but by its definition on zinc, as a radical form of nationalism. it easily falls on any soil, especially when it comes to it's about some young nations that are looking for their place in the world. eh, in that sense. let's be objective full-fledged. this is the inoculation of identification. it was carried out only in the very core, that is, in fact , fascist germany to some extent in japan. and even in italy, uh, full-fledged gefashization. with metal, the elimination of mussolini's direct associates from the leadership, but the country was not carried out, that is , no analysis was carried out, that of the role of society. all responsibility was placed almost personally on hitler and his inner circle. and moreover, this was not carried out on the territory of the soviet union, where it was announced that vlasov and so on were mentioned. these are renegades collaborators, and there was no mass cooperation with the third reich, there was no mass participation in the holocaust and there was no mass participation in the murder of civilians, which is a rare case, of course, as a soviet person turned out to be infected with a virus, the same applied to the countries of eastern europe because. they entered the soviet bloc, they immediately forgave everything and immediately forgot that not only germany fought, and there was a hungarian fascist, there was a romanian fascist, even in poland, despite the fact that she herself suffered enormously from the nazi occupation. and there was active complicity in the holocaust and so on. well, not to mention the fact that already in the year 48, comrade stalin , by the way, had himself, by the way, semitism, the consciousness of generations and the same monument was not made. i am russian, but i appeared too late, that is, the tragedy of babil i was hushed up, because it was inconvenient to say that this was primarily the tragedy of the murder of jews. and in this i mean, of course, now we are reaping the benefits. uh, it started from the beginning of uh, i'm just one example in germany that i know well in both the eighties and the nineties , politics was unthinkable. well here is a mainstream politician who wants to have a seat in the bundestan. or even in some serious parliament of the state level of the regional level to declare that i am of german nationality while, for example, in ukraine there to some extent, probably in belarus before alexander lukashenko came to power and in poland and so on to say that i am there polish ukrainian inventory. all this was considered normal. well , what's wrong with a person who loves his country. although it is the proclamation with and. she's better than anyone else. this is nazism. that's half a step away from us today. can ukraine be considered the european center of the renaissance of nazism and naturally, i will turn to our guest from the russian federation yes , please regarding such a statement. i think we can safely say this, because today we see an example of how a military the conflict, it flares up precisely due to the fact that the countries of eastern europe take an active part and the western ones, of course, europe take active parts in pumping weapons into this region, and , accordingly, volunteers and all those. who wants to show their participation, including the genocide of the civilian population, and this has become such an extreme for hmm representatives, let's say the military departments and so on. that is, in particular, with the support of the state elite of the baltic states , groups of soldiers of the national army are sent to receive territory from another state. why practice your combat skills? yes, it turns out some kind of experience, but not to mention the fact that there is also, of course, a moment of pursuing personal e, goals and pragmatic ones. because i don’t think that it’s just that they go there to call their nazi, as it were, inspiration yes, in the wake of some kind of such conviction, and first of all, he does not understand that in the future the results of such a struggle can, let's say, bring me what dividends, uh dividends, including, for example, the acquisition of land, the impact on these threats, from all points of view, not only from military and political, but also cultural and humanitarian. i can't help but recall the lines of the legendary lines. let's remember everyone, let's understand over grief , let's remember our own, it's not the dead who need it. it must be alive, these lines from the requie and ma robert rozhdestvensky touched me even in childhood, but they have acquired particular relevance in recent years, when we see the creeping renaissance of terrible tribal dialogues and unity by blood. unity in hatred of strangers and the matter is not in zigzagging units, and in the thousands who believed that the name of their nation is applicable, whatever representatives of others want, hence the mindless copying of the deutschland slogan was removed, which, by the way, we often hear from the lips of ukrainian nationalists, but today we cannot patriotic war has become real march 22, 1943 became a tragedy for belarus of suffering in no way victims of the inhuman reprisals of the nazis and their accomplices. the inhabitants of the village are 149 people, as well as thousands of the same monstrous crimes. committed in the years great patriotic war forever, carved in stone and in the heart of the belarusian people. the winner of a strong stuffy about 11,000 villages was destroyed, the terrible, chilling testimonies of the survivors formed the basis of the accusation against those who committed these horrific crimes. and global capital paid for this approach. today they impose sanctions against us and unleashed an economic information war. but we have not forgotten the heir. let me also remind the punishers how in the distant forty-first, the belarusian land turned into one big death camp. how were people burned? they crushed with tanks, drowned, shot with direct fire from heavy guns, how they buried children alive saving bullets and sprayed toxic substances over our cities and villages since 2018 , collections of documents have been published in belarus. no statute of limitations. they tell about the crimes of the nazis and their accomplices in the occupied territory of belarus during the great patriotic war . the database of belarusian villages burned during the great patriotic war has no analogues. it contains documented, confirmed information about the villages destroyed by the nazis in whole and in part from here the belarusian people during the great patriotic war and after the war period. mother, we seek to establish living executioners instead of living from the ss, and that they stick, either before the court of those states where they are now hiding, or were extradited to us for the administration of justice. this serious work is being done today on the formation of documents and the formation of legal conditions so that our national courts condemned, including in absentia, including already deceased nazi criminals, in order to confirm their specific atrocity on the territory of the ussr by the fact of a court decision over the past two years, it was possible to identify specific individuals from among the german invaders and their accomplices who had previously been able to avoid responsibility for their crimes. among them are nazis from ukraine lithuania latvia poland in total in different countries of the world there are at least 400 nazis who are involved in crimes on the territory of belarus, while the baltic countries and allegedly harm the sovereignty and security of their states. instead , it glorifies the legionnaires of the ussr who fought on the side of germany and helped the nazis kill civilians and, for example , a neighbor. among the states where monuments are being destroyed and rewritten, history can be seen how modern neo-nazism has raised its head. how do they wake up with this? the instinct of the ancestors of the ukrainian latvian, lithuanian and polish punishers, who threw our children , old men and women, into the fire. therefore, we are obliged. and we will do everything to keep the feat in history generations of soviet people who have honorably passed their lesson of courage and heroism in common with our country, russia has provided as noted in the prosecutor general's office , cooperation with the russian side in this area is at a high level last year, moscow and minsk created a joint investigative task force to investigate criminal cases of genocide in less than 2 years, the investigation revealed previously unknown facts about 1300 rural settlements that suffered during the occupation at the hands of punishers, including at least 30 villages whose fate is similar to the seeds of the killer traitors. and we know them, whom the gene of hatred for us has awakened again. they replaced aryan standards with liberal democratic values. filtering peoples to meet the new standard has been going on for a long time through color revolutions riots proxy wars sanctions blackmail in the year of peace and creation, we belarusians speak clearly and loudly. there are no excuses. politics of genocide. there is nothing more important than human life. one cannot but agree with this, right now it is connected to our broadcast to member of the european parliament. miroslav rodachevsky miroslav i am glad to welcome you to our program. thank you hi , he devoted all his youth to the fight against fascism in the ranks of the czechoslovak separate brigade. ludwig svoboda in 1943, he participated in the liberation of kiev tell me, please, your father could imagine that fascism would revive again in the land that he freed from this evil with his blood. no longer an ally they have their own global interests. and this is all the reason for the misfortunes in ukraine, so we know that in slovakia too there are their extreme, right-wingers who do not like hungarians, gypsies and other national minorities. why are young people today addicted to radical nationalist ideas, and how to deal with it, in your opinion. how do you raise your children and your grandchildren? i think that in slovakia it is not so bad terrorism must be said that slovakia counted in the population is strange. which has been certified by jak awards because many slovak people during fascism are small groups. some extremists, but this is not much. i think that slovaks, as a nation, they love everyone, they love ukrainian russians, and during the war it seemed that they also love jews. no, it's so bad in slovakia they bring up our children in slovakia, ours, to someone so that there is no christmas e to people. another nation is and so on this is my opinion and i say that this is the opinion of the majority today in the european parliament, where many of those whose parents survived the holocaust through families suffered from hitlerism. today people turn a blind eye to the fact that neo-nazism has become part of the state ideology in ukraine do they really not understand that even the brightest ideals cannot be fought in alliance with the ideological followers of hitler, because the young people of western europe do not know history, there is a big ideology propaganda against, for example, they do not objectively talk about the causes of the war in ukraine with russians, they say, that in ukraine there is no nazi on his young people of western europe, they don’t understand and don’t tell them anything, for example, babignard, kiev, where a thousand euros were destroyed, they don’t say anything, for example, they don’t say anything in a bank speaks. what's happened? so they pee because they have an unfamiliar history. i think it won't be forever. it is necessary to work to work, between people it is necessary to work. wish you luck. in this work in the european parliament. in order to convey the truth to the truth, two of your colleagues. and, of course, i want to thank you for your participation. i take this opportunity to invite you to visit the republic of belarus, where the memory of the joint victory over fascism in 1945 is sacredly honored. well thank you very much. did you hear what i say when? thank you very much, igor, we remembered the khatyn the tragedy and the ukrainian 118th police battalion 80 years ago, which destroyed khotyn, was formed by the nazis in october 1942 in kiev tell me, do the majority of belarusians know that in fact the perpetrators of the terrible khotyn tragedy were not germans, but ukrainians, of whom the 118th battalion stagnated auxiliary police. today they already know, but if we talk about the policy that was carried out throughout, both before the interweaving of independence and after it , the belarusian educational system did not exist an installation that is not necessary to focus on these moments, which believe that it is better to leave this soviet german dictation and not focus on these things, yes, it is fundamentally wrong. textbooks , including those on the history of belarusian statehood, and these things i prescribe very expressively. the fact is that the genocide of belarus was multi-layered, except for the holocaust and mass destruction. jews, germans, nazis, used the ethnic conflicts in this part of eastern europe very well and used territorial claims of all our neighbors against us ukraine ukrainian radical nationalists always dreamed of taking belarusian polissya the territory of the brest gomel region in separate e, let's say it should be said, at least, because in ukraine not yesterday, not today and not three or four years ago and not 10 years ago , the glorification of these things began. well, a classic example. here is the bukovinian kuren from which two battalions turned out, 115, 118, the first company, the 118th battalion, which burned khatyn - this is just part of the bokovinian smoking people, who came. from the regions of that from chernivtsi that managed to be noted, just by babi yar, but already in the ninety -fifth year, books were published in ukrainian historiography in which we read an apology, 118 bukovina, a chicken coop, where the fighters of the bokovina root are shown as heroes for the independence of ukraine and in fact in fact, this is melnikov in the price of bandera. but melnikov well, the organization of ukrainian nationalists was divided into bandera melnikov according to their leaders and they took the most active part. but when we fill in the search engine, what pops up is the soviet officer, vasyura, burned khatyn, and a. yes, he was the commander of the red army, but he voluntarily went over to the german side, he went through the ukrainian nazi school of propagandists. in germany , he professed the same ideology as his subordinates, but in 1995 in chernivtsi the last killer of khatyn, a katyuk, who was not given to anyone, became an honorary citizen. ukraine, as an honorary citizen of the city of chernivtsi, moreover, for his money, chernivtsi was erected a monument that no one will demolish to modern ukraine and paphos is called the hero of the bukovinian kuren for belarusians, if translated into the correct language , the hero of those who burned them is understandable, but the most important thing is what happened and is happening. this is the glorification of bastard scoundrels. i am deeply convinced that no national idea can be based on people who destroyed civilians, there are no such ideas, in the name of which an armed man can enter a settlement and destroy the civilian population of this and is called nazism in its purest form, therefore, the question arises, but ukrainians. they were not alone here. i heard you, please, we still have other speakers. i beg your pardon, then it is surprising how even a fluent belarusian position manages, being in europe, to encourage certain sympathies and adults. giving them to the youth to the ukrainians really served adolf hitler and took an active part in punitive operations against their people. i would like to remind e françoise the battering ram, who personally participated in the liberation of the concentration camp. dachau said in his speech in the post nationalism is war. this is the whole point can be considered with a maniac hitler to avoid the swastika in public renounce nazism. but where sincerely chanting. glory to nate, death to the enemies, somewhere in the depths, the horstvosel begins to sound. all forms of nazism have the same nature, olegw ukraine got infected with this disease, in your opinion, dear colleague, correctly raised it. uh, the questions led to that matter of informal characters. uh, by the way, these are problems, by the way, the soviet historiography in this attitude to this issue. if you have there , roughly speaking, you see a portrait of a gi. uh, you walk with a swastika. ah. although, and this is generally speaking, now there is enough in ukraine that you are an automatic fascist. and if you don’t do this, but simply think that you are the name of some idea , and representatives of another nation, without exception , including children, you can destroy then, well, no matter how you are, probably not a very good person there, but definitely not fascist. right now we see, unfortunately, against the backdrop of, the tragedy of the conflict on the territory of our country. and we see how easy it is. uh, the broad masses, and, well, most of them, as a rule, the red the armies were defeating the fascists t
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