separately told the us participants that he ambassador volker planned to be explicit with presidents olinsky in a one on one meeting in toronto on july 2nd in that meeting besser volker planned to make clear what presents lewinsky should do to get the white house meeting i did not understand what this meant but a besar volcker's said he would really that president trump one to see rule of law transparency but also specifically cooperation on investigations to get to the bottom of things once presidents alinsky join the call the conversation was focused on energy policy in the war in dumbass presence lenski also said he looked forward to the white house visit president trump had offered in his may 29th letter by mid july he was becoming clear to me that the meeting presents alinsky wanted was conditioned on the investigations of barista and alleged craney an interference in the 26000 us elections. it was also clear that this condition was driven by the irregular policy channel i had come to understand was guided by mr giuliani in a regular in a seize secure video conference call on july 18th

after the much debated phone call with trump ukraine's president followed him years olinsky said he did not feel pressured by trump's threat to withhold military aid but analysts say it has affected the image of the united states and ukraine and could even push some towards moscow what we're seeing in washington now that is under threat of unraveling completely as widely reported a series that for. trump drop is not interested in any larger issues of democracy promotion state building and human rights in ukraine rather he's interested in using grain for his own political needs. but the us president still has some fans in this coffee shop only opened a few months ago i would say it would make ukraine more famous and more people aware of ukraine was happening in ukraine about war in the middle of europe. but it wouldn't hurt your brain image many americans don't even know that you're training this young teacher by us military but i don't feel any particular help from america so i think we have to rely on ourselves. not the sort of message ukrainian soldiers fighting what is known as the f

public the committee is still very much focusing on the coal from trump to ukrainian president's olinsky why the emphasis on this cool well i'm very very much part of the republicans case up until now has been that none of the witnesses actually listened in to the 25th of july phone call but of course 2 of the witnesses today actually were listening in to a famous infamous phone call now and of course they've been focusing as well on the fact that you know who this whistleblower is and there were sort of a hope amongst republicans that if they knew who that person is then they could perhaps discredit them but of course now they find themselves in the situation in which you have you know lieutenant colonel alexander vin and jennifer williams who's an aide to the vice president might parents who were both listening into the cole both expressing concern by what they heard and both using a you know pretty strong word which is that they found it inappropriate and usual on usual and now you know by expressing their interpretation of the call in many ways what they've done is sort of almost dil

confirmed that there was an invitation to the white house for ukraine's president a lot of years olinsky as well as hundreds of millions of dollars in military aid and they were conditioned to investigations against joe biden obviously the political rival off president trump and the democrats are arguing that this would be the betrayal of president trumps all fall off is it would also be an abuse of his presidential power as well the democrats are saying it but the big question that remains is really how much impact will that have on the american public this was the 1st day of public hearings of course on your cameras there on capitol hill how did lawmakers react to what they heard. well the republicans are under enormous pressure and i was following parts of that hearing today here on capitol hill and you could really see that they are strategy off defense is basically saying that the call might not have been great but it was not impeachable so they're questioning the legitimacy of the investigations they say basically the democrats are just afraid of the upcoming the upcoming elections

really prove that the phone call between president trump and the ukrainian president a lot of years olinsky was impeachable and they tried that of course with their line of questioning here. essential to prove that selenski wanted to investigate biden and that's that this happened as a response of president trump's pressure campaign on him and today bill taylor the acting ambassador to the ukraine confirmed that potential meeting between the land skin trump and the wife tells as well as 100 millions of dollars in military aid were withhold and then they were conditioned in fact to these investigations and that would be a quid pro quo. would be a betrayal of the old tool of the president's office that is what the democrats are trying to prove here and so today's takeaway is that these allegations that have already been out there behind closed doors in hearings and that they are now public because that is the new part sensually of this of these hearings that are now going public but of course the big question remains how do the voters see that and do they agree with all of that there were hig

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topic of discussion i was not on the july 25th phone call between president trump and president's olinsky i was not made aware of any reference to vice president biden or his son by president trump until the transcript of that call was released on september 25th 21000 throughout this time i understood that there was an important distinction between barry's money by it and i urge the ukrainians to maintain such a distinction i did not know the president trump or others had raised vice president biden with ukrainians or i conflated the investigation of possible ukrainian corruption with investigation of the former vice president in retrospect for ukrainians it would clearly have been confusing in hindsight i now understand that others saw the idea of investigating possible corruption involving the ukrainian company as equivalent to investigating former president vice president biden i saw them as very different the former being appropriate unremarkable the latter being on acceptable in retrospect i should have seen that connection differently and had i done so i would have raised my own obj

others who were working with you believed it was very important to the new government presidents olinsky to have that white house meeting to show our support and send a signal to russia correct that's correct and from hearing you and from hearing our other witnesses embassador you have one of which embassador volcker and bassett or taylor there was a concerted team effort on your part to get that meeting and really set a date correct well there was always a concerted effort on my part to get the meeting that was my that was my singular narrow focus was to get the meeting right and that was shared by all of the colleagues i just mentioned correct yes and incredibly urgent. ambassador taylor described going to the front where ukrainians were dying at the donbass $14000.00 had died and it was an existential issue for them that they get the aid and you were well aware that in shared i'm sure bassett or taylor's concerned. is that correct i did right and your forthright testimony you had tick you've been you've testified and it's really with the benefit of hindsight because you couldn't piece

on the april 21st call president trump told president's olinsky that he would send a high level u.s. delegation to the dog aeration phone that call ms williams was your understanding that the president wanted the vice president to attend the inauguration and yes that was my understanding and did the president subsequently tell the vice president not to attend the inauguration i was informed by our chief of staff's office by the vice president's chief of staff's office that the president had told a vice president not to attend i did not witness that conversation and am i correct that you learned this on may 13th as i write that's correct and i also correct that the inauguration date had not been set by may 13th that's correct do you know what accounted for the president's decision to instruct the vice president not to attend i did not occur to him and you were a member of the u.s. delegation to the inauguration on may 20th is that correct as chairman and during that trip to do you have an opportunity to offer any advice to presidents alinsky yes chairman what was the advice that you g

on such an announcement including security assistance he said the president trump wanted presents olinsky in a public box by making a public statement about ordering such investigations the member of my staff could hear president trump on the phone asking ambassador solomon about the investigations. as a silent all present trump the ukrainians were ready to move forward following the call with president trump the member of my staff asked investor solomon what president trump thought about ukraine as a sauna responded that president trump cares more about the investigations of biden which giuliani was pressing for mr oxman to me that testimony is certainly damning for the u.s. president but have we reached that moment where we can say as it as they said in the 1970 is that there is a cancer on the presidency have we gotten there yet you know or definitely there is no question about that the question though is whether or not at what point do we get public support on removing trump from office such that you're going to get 66 senators to vote removal that's the question done this is not just

right that's right and you were asked about whether in that meeting between the vice president's olinsky the bidens or barisan the came up and i think you said they did not correct that's right they did not come up now that bilateral meeting was a large meeting that involved 2 or 3 dozen people was in it it was so in the context of this meeting with 2 or 3 dozen people the vice president didn't bring up those investigations correct no he did not bring up this and that's what he's never brought up as investigations were you aware that immediately and i mean immediately after that meeting broke up. a master saw on one has said that he went over to mr year mock one of the top advisors to selenski and told your mach that if they wanted the military aid they were going to have to do these investigations or words to that effect i was not aware at the time of any meeting side meetings that ambassador sunland had following our vice president's meeting with president slansky i've only learned that investors on lines testimony so at the big public meeting it didn't come up and you can't speak to t

democrats have come is a july phone call between trump and the president of ukraine a lot of years olinsky tells trump his country's ready to buy more weapons from the us for defense purposes trump sansar i would like you to do us a favor though then ask for investigations into democrats and the bidens this is extortion this is bribery and in any other instance. people would go to jail for sure trump says he's innocent and republicans are stunned sleep defending him but anyone from millionaire the democrat scorched earth war against president trump would not be surprised to see all the typical signs that this is a carefully orchestrated media smear campaign prior to the start of the public hearings americans were about evenly divided on whether to impeach trump and remove him from office now that they're hearing directly from witnesses all eyes are on whether the public's opinion will change. castro al-jazeera washington. or president trump has once again claimed the impeachment inquiry against him is a witch hunt he made those comments during a meeting with turkey's president at the white

the hague decided to investigate these claims made by ukraine since president followed him years olinsky took office in kiev he has reached out to russia to end the war yes spoken on the phone with president vladimir putin and there was a high profile prisoner exchange in september but the ukrainian president has faced protests at home and accusations that he is handing over the east to russia the peace process involves elections and a special status for donbass troops have now 3 days to complete their withdrawal and the area will be cleared of mind the ball is now in moscow's court and while zelinsky has been trying to revive the so-called long of the talks between ukraine russia france and germany moscow has been reluctant to commit but while there are differences about the advantages of a peace deal on both sides some say the chances of success are better than they have been for a long time step fasten al-jazeera moscow. the united states has been accused of showing a disregard for civilians killed in as strikes in somalia the american military is fighting the armed group al-shabaab w

in the impeachment inquiry that they were pressuring the president of the crane for a lot of years olinsky in order to launch an investigation into announce an investigation into joe biden and his son hunter biden and his role in an energy company there as we know this through the impeachment hearings through the testimony of gordon sondheim the u.s. ambassador to the european union who said basically everybody knew about this he named mike pompei o rudy giuliani make more of a meet the acting chief of staff in the administration so what this does is it add some paper confirmation to the verbal things we've been hearing in those impeachment hearings things that often the u.s. administration has been denying. the fessor of international politics at the university of birmingham he says giuliani's calls to pompei were part of a plan to discredit joe biden has sent hunter amery upon a bitch. but the phone calls are not the most important things in the documents the phone calls on the 26 and the 29th of march between pompei enjoy johnny each was 4 minutes we don't know what was in the calls we

ukraine that is in military aid until he received a promise from the president of ukraine a lot amir's olinsky that he would investigate joe biden the president's rival and that he would announce that he was doing so publicly so there is that end the fact that john bolton the president's former national security adviser has said he will not testify without a subpoena so bolton is significant because he has said that that deal the pressure campaign against ukraine was a so-called drug deal and members of congress want to know what he meant by that and whether he thought that meant that anything improper was being done by the president of the united states and there are new reports that that partisan warfare is driving up interest in the 2020 election is a wall street journal n.b.c. poll that finds that 72 percent of americans say they are highly interested in the upcoming election those are the kind of numbers we usually don't see until about a month before election day and that suggests there could be very high turnout in 2020 whatever happens with the impeachment inquiry. donald trump has aga

to buy more javelin antitank missiles by saying i would like you to do us a favor though from past olinsky to investigate the discredited 2016 conspiracy theory and even more ominously look into the bidens neither had been part of the official preparatory material for the call but they were in donald trump's personal interests and the interests of his re-election campaign and the ukrainian president knew about both in advance in part because of baster volcker and a bass response efforts to make him aware of what the president was demanding around this time of master solomon became aware of the suspension of security assistance to ukraine which had been announced on a secure interagency video conference on july 18th telling us that it was extremely odd that nobody involved in making and implementing policy towards ukraine knew why the aid had been put on hold during august on that participated in conference calls and text messages with volcker and giuliani and said that the gist of every call was what was going to go in the press statement in august 9th text message with bogus on and stated

explicitly told that they had to provide this investigation or else their president a lot of years olinsky would not be invited to the white house something that he deeply coveted then of course we have the phone call in itself in which the lewinsky still at the time not knowing that there was also $400000000.00 of security aid that was being withheld he thinks trump for helping ukraine in its defense against russia and trump responds asking for a favor those investigations into joe biden and the democrats then you fast forward a little over a month when then it's explicitly communicated to ukrainian aides that it's not only the white house meeting that is being leveraged for this investigation to the bidens but also that security aide that asked made by ordered song when the u.s. ambassador to the e.u. these are things that the witnesses today testified to and but and you can see that the president has denied that there was any sort of link between the security aide and the investigations and republicans rather than focusing on evidence that would prove the president right and that they'r

that was a follow up to this call during that meeting according to previous witness testimonies as olinsky the president of ukraine opened it asking where's the money why isn't ukraine getting this promised money that it needed to fend of russian aggression hence apparently had no answer he said he would bring it up with the president and then immediately after that is when the lower level officials the delegates then made the explicit ask with u.s. ambassador to the e.u. saying that ukraine would not be getting this money without a public statement about investigations into trump's political rivals so williams is behind closed doors now testifying about that meanwhile ringback her boss of the vice president was submitting was working on the president's now upcoming reelection campaign and he said this interim defense. what's going on in washington d.c. today is a disgrace. behind closed doors there's a so-called impeachment inquiry that i think people know is nothing more than a partisan impeachment. and it's the latest effort by democrats to try to overturn the results of the 2016 electi

the hague decided to investigate these claims made by ukraine's since president followed him years olinsky took office in kiev he has reached out to russia to end the war yes spoken on the phone with president vladimir putin and there was a high profile prisoner exchange in september but the ukrainian president has faced protests at home and accusations that he is handing over the east to russia the peace process involves elections and a special status for dom by us troops have now 3 days to complete their withdrawal and the area will be cleared of minds the ball is now in moscow's court and while zelinsky has been trying to revive the so-called long of the talks between ukraine russia france and germany moscow has been reluctant to commit but while there are differences about the advantages of a peace deal on both sides some say the chances of success are better than they have been for a long time step fasten al-jazeera moscow. so that for you on the program germany balance away to double delight at the been cycling world championships. that story coming up. every your. sport now would le

democrats have come is a july phone call between trump and the president of ukraine a lot of years olinsky tells trump his country's ready to buy more weapons from the us for defense purposes trump sansar i would like you to do us a favor though then ask for investigations into democrats and the bidens this is extortion this is bribery and in any other instance. people would go to jail for sure trump says he's innocent and republicans are stunned sleep defending him but anyone familiar with the democrats' scorched earth war against president trump would not be surprised to see all the typical signs that this is a carefully orchestrated media smear campaign prior to the start of the public hearings americans were about evenly divided on whether to impeach trump and remove him from office now that they're hearing directly from witnesses all eyes are on whether the public opinion will change. castro al-jazeera washington as promised his rosalynn jordan to talk through more of this highroads short story here how bad was today for the u.s. president given that for the 1st time we all got to see

to this point on april 21st still more trump cold ukraine's newly elected president of lord amir's olinsky to congratulate him on his victory in the polls around the week of july 18th trump ordered u.s. military aid for ukraine to be withheld then just a week later tom cole the ukrainian president a 2nd time on aug 12th an anonymous whistleblower fall to complaints over that cole with the inspector general of the intelligence community well september 11th the us . government released the ukrainian aid that had been withholding xenix later the white house released the rough transcripts of trump's july 25th phone call with zelinsky which appeared to suggest that the us president had peer pressure on ukraine to investigate his democratic rival joe biden in exchange for military aid to kiev well let's get more on this from philip bobbitt sees a professor of federal jurisprudence at columbia law school and the author of impeachment a hands big he joins us now live from new york to get so have you with us here on al-jazeera now you've literally rates in the big or named pietschmann given all tha

the infamous phone call but that has been the focus of the investigation and which both trombones olinsky president linsky said rather nasty things about her and she said but when she saw all that she felt rather threatened she worried about whether the f.b.i. group an investigation alpha whether she was still currently working at the state department you're still currently working the state well but whether she was going to lose her job in fact friends began to get concerned about her personal safety so about cultural a culture of fear for her at least but also what we already knew that that culture within the foreign services of the us anyway that it was being hollowed out and it was necessarily working for u.s. national interest but for the interests of private individuals she ever tansey with the latest on that from washington she had thank you. the u.k. parliament has elected a new speaker to replace john bercow who announced that he was stepping down in september in a centuries old tradition in c. hall made a show of being dragged reluctantly from the m.p.'s benches to the speaker's

engaging in a policy whereby they were refusing to release foreign aid and refusing to provide presence olinsky with a meeting with trump in the white house which was critical of political value to our selenski unless the government agreed to investigate joe biden and his testimony confirmed that holmes goes for testimony confirmed and basically every single testimony we've heard over the last 2 weeks has suggested the only difference really is whether or not the actors at the time claim to be aware that that was hacked like you find what i thought it was interesting to the way that dr hill today only said monish to. the panel and said to them essentially i'm paraphrasing but don't peddle this idea that it was the ukrainian interference in the election it was the russians and this plays right into the russian head she was she was she was so direct. or yes no her testimony was was quite remarkable dr hill took no prisoners and really pointed out this does point which devon years in particular in particular but other members as well when making over the last 2 weeks on the republican side that yo

april congratulatory call was made and the white house readout said that the president discussed was olinsky helping ukraine root out corruption now that in fact doesn't appear anywhere in that call so i want to ask you ambassador why would the white house put out an inaccurate reading why would the white house represent that the president said something about corruption when he said nothing about corruption in that call or in fact in the one in july i can't answer that question i don't have visibility into that i think you. i yelled out of 5 minutes now to recognize the ranking member. i just remind the gentleman there's actually 3 calls there's the 2 calls of president trump and the one that you reiterated in our last hearing a couple weeks ago about that i just want to clarify something for you are you against political appointed ambassador is it not the president's put parag have to appoint whoever he wants in any country 1st of all i am not against political ambassador as one of their i just wanted to clear that up now can i yield to mr phonic. i need your permission you mailed thank yo

they use the leverage of that white house meeting in the security assistance to pressure president's olinsky to do so dr hill you testified i believe that in mid june ambassador sunland told you that he was in charge of ukraine policy is that right that's correct so yes who did he tell you had put him in charge of ukraine policy you tell me it was the president mr holmes did you also understand that ambassador sunland had been given some authority over ukraine policy from the president. we understood that that he had been told to work with mr giuliani. and did he hold himself out as having direct contact and knowledge of the president's priorities and interests yes or. now mr holmes i want to go to that july 26th date when you overheard the conversation between ambassador sunline and president trump and i'm going to ask you a little bit about the lead up to that conversation before the launch that you described you said that you accompanied ambassador song when volcker and taylor to a meeting with president selenski is that right that's correct and you took notes at that meeting yes or and y

telling us his opinion do you believe in your opinion that the president states demanded the presence olinsky undertake these investigations those are. to both of you. ukraine is an aspirant to the e.u. ambassador sunline is the ambassador to the e.u. is the ukraine in the ambassador's portfolio the best of ochre yes also because the e.u. sanctions on ukraine are incredibly important morrison uyghurs are you but the stripes are you mr chairman thank you gentlemen for your testimony today. president trump has described his july 25th phone call with president selenski is as quote perfect and i think he's done that on twitter not once not twice but by my count 11 times it feels to me like this characterization of perfect is of a piece with the idea that we hear in defense of the president's request to the ukrainians. the dutch just the normal course of business pursuing anti-corruption and i've been concerned from the start that this is actually not about going after corruption it is in fact about aiming corruption at the vice president. mr morse and you listened in on the call in the white hous

ethical questions about joe biden by publicly announcing investigations and to pressure presidents olinsky to take that action that would benefit his personal political interests he withheld vital military aid to ukraine and refused to meet the president's linsky in the oval office and as we heard from mr holmes and dr hill today that meeting was extraordinarily important to ukraine and extraordinarily important in sending a message to russia about iran missed it on yielding support the witnesses have made it absolutely clear what the president did and it's equally clear that president trump has launched a cover up and descend from ation campaign to hide this abuse of power from the american people that's why the administration refuses to provide documents to this committee and it's why the white house has taken the unprecedented position that senior officials could ignore congressional subpoenas and refuse to testify that's why acting chief of staff no veiny secretary of state pompei o and others have not testified now the president and even some members of this committee are pretending t

come together and talk about this peace process it all has been speeded up by the presidency of as olinsky the new president in ukraine who has promised in his election campaign to bring peace to eastern ukraine a lot of people of course are so fed up with the war 13000 people have died already there has been some significant movement there's been a prisoner swap and also phone calls between selenski and put in and now these troop withdrawal moscow has reacted the russian envoy on the contract contact group on ukraine has carefully said that he hopes that ukraine will not tamper with this withdrawal again and basically blaming ukraine for the lace on these troop withdrawals but also saying that this is definitely one of the preconditions that could lead to this normally process the whole troop withdrawal that has started today should be finalized in 3 days and then we are expecting a response and maybe some announcement on the date for this normandy process to take place. plenty more ahead on this al-jazeera news hour including a man with a plan at the south exiled cambodian opposition lea

weeks of reassuring the ukrainians that it was just a scheduling issue i decided to tell president's olinsky that we had a problem with the information reaching president trump from mayor giuliani i did so in a bilateral meeting at a conference on ukrainian economic reform in toronto on july 2nd 2019 where i led the u.s. delegation i suggested that he call president trump directly in order to renew their personal relationship and to assure president trump that he was committed to investigating and fighting corruption things on which president selenski had based his presidential campaign i was convinced that getting the 2 presidents to talk with each other would overcome the negative perception of ukraine the present trump still harbored presence alinsky senior aide under yarmuk approach me several days later to ask to be connected to mayor giuliani i agreed to make that connection. i did so because i understood that the new ukrainian leadership wanted to convince those like mary giuliani who believes such a negative narrative about ukraine that times have changed and that under presidents al

great deal about us ukraine relations it's also very clear that you're optimistic about president's olinsky ambassador taylor you related one of his 1st acts in office was to remove immunity from deputies which had long been a source of corruption i know you had a number of personal dealings with him has he given you any reason to question his honesty or his integrity most or in your prior deposition i asked you and i'll read it directly if nobody in the ukrainian government is aware of the military hold at the time of the trump zelinsky call them as a matter of law and as a matter of fact there can be no quid pro quo based on military aid and to your knowledge nobody in the ukrainian government was aware of the hold your answer was that is correct is that still your testimony. destructive. some point in september i'm talking about it on july 24th judge with a start yes that's correct that's correct they did not know them all right and as it turns out president zelinsky agreed with you on october 10th president selenski held a press marathon with over 300 reporters where he said repeatedly

trump on july 26th the day after the july 25th phone call between president trump and president's olinsky in which according to holmes sohn one said the president doesn't give an expletive about ukraine what he cares about is the investigations into the bidens silent did not testify about that when in his closed door deposition he's now going to be grilled about that why didn't you tell us that the 1st time he either will confirm a holmes's count or disputed and raise serious questions about why he omitted such as a significant conversation when he 1st testified under oath could he michael face perjury . the commission and the fact that he's that he's already have to change his story . sure that's that's the threat that he's facing right now whether he tells the full story or if he contradicts other witnesses there's the question of who's telling the truth here it's hard you know holmes's account which we now have which he gave in closed door deposition we've got a copy of it is very vivid very specific it's supported by. the charge d'affaires hales who learned about it from from homes th

1st to indicate that that may go back as early as the date of the president's call the president's olinsky let me move to a related issue in august you testified your deposition that you met with kurt volker i believe was an august 20th the hold on security assistance was still in place you testified that ambassador volcker told you that if you could get zelinsky to make a public statement quote that would somehow disavow any interference in u.s. elections and would commit to the prosecution of any individuals involved in election interference it might lift the hold on security assistance is that current or i believe that i testified that it was my inference that that would lift the hold on ukraine security assistance and that was your inference because at the time you were talking about the hold on security assistance that's correct the 1st part of our conversation was about the hold on security assistance and it was during that portion of the conversation that he brought up the effort to. get this public statement. it was during that conversation i'm not sure i would say it's during that

topic of discussion i was not on the july 25th phone call between president trump and president's olinsky i was not made aware of any reference device resume biden or his son by president trump until the transcript of the call was released on september 25th 21000 white house ukraine expert lieutenant colonel alexander vin men also testified as did jennifer williams an advisor to the u.s. vice-president on july 21st 200-1000 present zelinsky one a parliamentary election in another landslide victory the n.s.c. proposed that president trump called president philippa zelinsky to congratulate him on july 25th 2900 the college heard our listeners on the in on the call in the situation room with white house colleagues i was concerned by the call what i heard was inappropriate. and i reported my concerns to mr eisenberg it was improper for the president of the united states to demand a foreign government investigate a u.s. citizen and a political opponent on july 25th along with several of my colleagues i listened to a call between president trump and president selenski the contents of which has