it requires omb as i mentioned annual assessment of continuity funding and performance. it requires the office of science and technology policy to set minimum continuity communications standards. i think we've got to be asking the current administration how are they doing, and are they doing that, and when are they doing that and what is the performance of those federal agencies. president obama has made very clear his commitment to transparency. there is no greater issue on which we require some answers to be sure that when the citizenry really needs its government to be able to work in a crisis for our safety, for our security, that they are ready to do that job. it is not the time to ask it in the midst of the crisis and its by the way not terribly perspective to be asking any in the aftermath. let me close by saying, you know, i left the white house. it was january 2008, and i had started, i was already one year into planning for the transition of presidential power that was going to happen a year later. this was an issue that tremendously concerned me. i believe pre

we will have a budget proposal that goes to omb in mid-september.that will be informed by the quality of work done in this qddr up to this point. we will have a budget that the president sends to the congress at the beginning of next year. it will be informed by the work that we do in this process. you know, having been in government and out of government, it's very different to have ideas when you're giving suggestions than it is to make decision which is you're responsible for them. >> i think the other big difference is this is the first time ever we've done something that that brings development and diplomacy together they are the embassies of the future, there's those kind of reports and there's lots of reports how you can do development assistance better but secretary clinton has said one of her primary goals is the development and diplomacy are going to be equal pillars of foreign policy and this is the process that is going to do that from the bottom up. that it's not just going to talk about it but intergrate it with aid and state and all t

. >> omb. nfarom w: aou whanistaning a is one of the m brit heavily mined countries in the world.ot the m brit heare ily minen counwo by in the wovoln country in the world and 16his . workers were in eastern afghanistan and were stopped by armed gunmen and we're not sure if they were tal suran or arse linals but they were kidnapped and are being held for ransom. and lgo,al police chief in the area, in the province on the afghanistan-pakistan border, ac9,ally tried to blame this mor wel workers for not notifyi the police they were in the area, and a double edged walorn because of the corruption, in the afghan government, if you tell the police yoclomight be putting yourself at more risk and often westerners don't ac9,ally check in with this localpraovers passing through the province that's afghanpraovers to have westerners do. >> jamie: connor powell thanks for the latest. >> it.ic: no white house rea. >> clion yet to a misir le launch in norh korea, that occurred yesterday. wg.re hearing a wytole level of Ãmokidnise, this morning and ben the house, there is plenty from south korea

so omb says look, intuitively it makes sense you can but if you're asking us to put the reputation on the line with the hard score, just can't do it. and it's difficult to estimate things a year or two in advance, let alone ten. so a lot of this is just educated guesswork, and that's -- well, it's a difficult platform upon which to build long-term fiscal policy. and so that's one of the things that we're struggling with. now, one of the proposals that had been suggested is to take and -- as you are aware, there was an agreement sometime ago to reduce medicare for some physicians, we always waive it every year, and so now there are further savings that have been pledged as part of the program. one has to look with some skepticism about whether we'll enforce them. so to kind of take the politics out of it, to maximize the chances that the savings will actually be achieved, there is a proposal to create an notary public commission outside of congress to set medicare reimbursement rates. do you have an opinion about that from a fiscal policy standpoint? >> well, i think that's ultimately

you'll find in the directive the director of omb working with the person in my position or to assess on an annual basis budgeting, funded, and performance for this continuity programs. so while you cannot actually direct it, there was a good deal of authority that allowed you to be pretty influential in being able to do that. we had a series of meetings among the interagency committee each cabinet secretary did a. one individual in their department responsible. we talked about the standards and requirements. we did practice. we would have even as were the would have to go to their offsite facilities. almost every nmajor nash -- national even was a good opportunity to exercise. you saw the state of the union, a political convention, the inauguration -- all of those are national security special events that triggered continuity exercises and capability. so each time you do that, you learn something you did not think of. you learn some way to strengthen it, and you learn your vulnerabilities. as we get further from september 11, i do worry about people's time and attention to this issue

by omb? and by the congress. that get us to this one-to-one ratio or whatever it may be. but, i think more important, is what are the options? do we increase force structure? within dod and state? so that we have not just the contracting oversight expertise but we have folks to do some of these jobs that are now being done by contractors. do we change the emphasis within the services to push more things into the sustainment force? out of the operational force? do we provide just less services? or less quality services? or do we just accept the fact that this is the way we are going to go to war. and i think those questions we need to focus on. in addition to waste, fraud an abuse. >> that was a large part of the formation of this -- as you know from reading your own charge in the legislation, that is a piece of the work we very seriously want to have done, mr. duncan. >> mr. chairman, just one last comment. i think we have far too many contractors when i read that we have 240,000 contractors in the two arenas, afghanistan and iraq put together an 80% of them are foreign n

if that works out, obama is going to have ahmadinejad and netanyahu over for yager b ombs.what did we agree on?" greta: do not hold your breath on that one. that is our last call. we are closing down shop. thanks for joining us. do not forget to join us tomorrow night at 10:00 p.m. eastern for our very special interview with california

we will have a budget proposal that goes to omb in mid-september. that will be informed by the quality of work done in this qddr up to that point. we will have a budget that the president sends to congress beginning of next year. it will be informed by the work we do in this process. you know, having been in government and out of government, it is very different to have ideas when you're giving suggestions than it is to make decisions when you're responsible for them. >> may i add something? i think the other big difference is this is the first time ever we've done something that brings development and diplomacy together. embassies of the future. those kinds of reports. there are lots of reports how you can do development assistance better. but secretary clinton has said one her primary goals, development and diplomacy will being equal pillars of foreign policy this is the process that will do that from the bottom up. that will not just talk about it but actually integrate it with aid and state and all the other agencies that do development and dipl

if he's complaining this is politics, he ought to take it up with the omb director. >> i'm not sure that'sct quote. that's a little out of context. but in any case, we'll have you both back on. brian and jason, thank you so much. >> thank you. >>> up next, tamron "crossing the line." >> a police officer teaches the wrong -- i don't want to judge. you tell me. did the police officer teach the wrong lesson to a group of children? they're 5 years old. selling lemonade. >>> plus shaquille o'neal, superman, shaq diesel, whatever you want to call him. he thinks he's michael jackson and he has his own video of "beat it." it's pretty popular on the internet. we'll show it to you. only two aleve can stop pain all day. that would take three times as many tylenol arthritis pain. aleve works for me. free credit report dot com! tell your friends, tell your dad, tell your mom! never mind, they've been singing our songs since we first showed up with our pirate hats on! if you're not into fake sword fights pointy slippers and green wool tights take a tip from a knight who knows free credit report dot com,

over job creation or, rather, slowing job loss, between republican congressman jason chavitz and the omb director rob nabors. >> how do you justify saying that you're slowing the free-fall? >> well, i think that what we would do is we would look back at the job loss that we saw in the first quarter, which was approaching 700,000 jobs a month and look at where we are right now. we're not happy with the job loss that we're seeing right now. >> i know you're not happy. we're not happy either, but the projection that the administration put forward and what would happen and not happen if we did or didn't do the stimulus are dramatic. they're unacceptable. >> we believe that the job loss is unacceptable as well. and -- >> now, the president's quoted as saying that the stimulus has, quote, done its job. is that true or not true? >> we believe that the stimulus has had the impact that we -- that we had predicted, which is job creation. >> now, the hearing is going on. it's picked back up after a short break. it's going on right now. they are hearing, the committee is hearing from some governors.

omb, acadecnd other diinguished institution who can quantify exactly how much the hundreds of billions of dollars of savingsre andme of the initiativese take. so we will respect what the score says. we will put it in e context of aarger context. some in the congrs want to direct scoring to include the benefits of revention, for exame, andarly intervention. and we haveo have that score before we go forward. that's part of what we're iting for for the p fors d cbo scoring, what the bl will cost. it doesn't - as i said, i told meers as recently as ts morning, squze out what you can out of the system. savings, savings, savings. d then we have to estabsh priorities. and that's very challenging. otherwise the bill is endless. so we have to containit. and it must be paid for. >> -- deal with pharmaceutical company -- >>> we'v been watcng speaker of the house nancy pelosi answer questionmost prompt naenln heth care, the economy, cia, that the c repeatedly lied to congress, mislead them and conseemed, actions. >>> got aspirited show ahead. i always invi a coost. i'm happy to invite richard wolf

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difficulty putting the plan on paper and they're having difficulty getting scoring for the plan from tbo and omb. in my opinion, we will not have a bill out of the senate before the august break. >> your colleague dick durbin said the same thing, democratic deputy leader. if folks go home, what are they going to hear? if the senators go home, house members go home, people talking about big tax, big spending, as you noted, costs don't add up according to the score keepers cbo? does it get beaten down or rise up from the ashes. >> i think this is utterly pivotal for the american economy and america's future. >> larry, if it passes as proposed in the health committee or house of representatives very shortly, it will do damage to our economy for the next 25 years and we will not be able to change it for 25 years. so the best thing we can do is slow it down, try to correct its. everybody knows we need health care reform. let's do it in incremental type refor reform. >> lightning fast if you can help us, i couldn't resist on the obama-care. what's your biggest beef on chairman bernanke, you gave him w

every time the budget office, the omb, the cbo, everybody makes a projection outyears are a joke. it's also worse. the economy never produces more revenue than expected. it always spends more than expected generally. >> that wasn't true during some of the clinton years when the economy came roaring back in a way no one predicted in terms of the deficit. >> yeah, the dot-com bubble. >> that didn't end so well. >> you're right. it was a lucky and good time for the country. by the way, one of the ironies i'm sitting in a studio with the white house behind me. that's not a still photo. i can see the helicopter flying by. that's actually a picture of the white house. chuck, you're in the white house by the way, and you're standing over what was once jack kennedy's swimming pool, and where nixon in one of the most metaphorical moments in history covered over jack kennedy's swimming pool. >> this is introspection upon introspection at this point. here's the president talking again about his naysayers out there. it seems to me the chicago strategy, there ain't no alternative to me. here h

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i think it is in the process of being reviewed by either my staff or omb so it should be relatively shortly. i should also indicate to you that there were other criteria in addition to the unemployment. the risk of forest fire, the capacity to create sustainable jobs, the capacity to use biomass. the opportunity to create jobs for recreation sites, roads, trails. there were 2700 projects submitted to us. we did our best to try to rank them based on a variety of criteria. i can reassure you that there was absolutely no determination relative to votes. until you told me you voted against the stimulus i had no idea that that was your vote and frankly in terms of my job, i don't care. my job is to make sure that these resources are used to create jobs and to help people transition from that time to better times and create that 21st century economy and we are very focused on danette job. >> thank you mr. vilsack. i appreciate that because it was adjusted their votes may have something to do with the fact that wyoming has not receive the funds and i'm pleased to hear they are coming. briefly, sec

in addition, as the agencies update their she plans, will be working with omb and the departments and agencies for key southwest border priorities that are identified in the strategy. this will insure accountability and make it clear that combating the flow of drugs and money and weapons across the southwest border must be a core element of our nation's approach to the entire drug problem. it is essential that we work together as one team to stop the flow of drugs into our country as well as the flow of all currency and weapons that fuel cartel violence. the congress and the ministration will need to work very closely together. i am looking forward to working with this committee, and i know that part of the focus you have identified is accountability, and we are proud to ensure that. -- we are proud -- we are prepared to answer that. i asked the directors of the high intensity drug trafficking areas to meet with me along the southwest border last month. what the director has told me and what i believe the members in this committee already know is that our front-line state and local la

it requires omb as i mentioned annual assessment of continuity funding and performance. it requires the office of science and technology policy to set minimum continuity communications standards. i think we've got to be asking the current administration how are they doing, and are they doing that, and when are they doing that and what is the performance of those federal there is no creature issue on which we require some answers to be sure that when a citizen really need it government to be able to work for our safety and our security, that they are ready to do that job to do it is not the time to ask it in the middle of a crisis. it is not also affected. let me close by saying that i left the white house in january of 2008. i had started -- i was already one year into planning for the transition of presidential power that was going to happen a year later. this is an issue that tremendously concerned me. president bush had a unique and responsibility because it was the first transition of presidential power. there is more communication between the outgoing and incoming a

aren't as many earnings as there has been. >>> when we come back, more with jim nussle, formalerly with ombng. we have lost a little bit of ground here this morning. standing by at the cme, it raises the question, dave, whether or not we are going to raise anything we've gotten anything we've gotten in the past 12 sessions. >> let's not talk about erasing. we've had a good run here. it's not a bad thing to take some money off the table on friday. the key to the whole deal is being able to play on monday. there's been a good run. we've had disappointment here with mr. softy. >> yes. >> that's okay. we had good leadership in the tech sector for the most part earlier in the week. we're still moving forward. there's money coming into the market to work. you can see that the 30-year is up 1932 or so. looks like things are the other way. they've been sliding. they're taking a little profits, also. >> okay, dave. we're going to keep it short. appreciate the insight on a friday. you raise some good points. we'll probably talk to you next week. >> i hope so. take care. have a great weekend. >> you,

that does not mean that cbo is always right and omb is always wrong.however, right now, the public is expressing rising concern about rising deficits. so this is a serious blow, in political terms, to what the president is trying to do here. i think that explains, in part, the urgency in which he is approaching the mannetter. we have not often had a democrat in the white house, and in control of congress -- by the way, we have never had as complete control of the house as we do now -- so this is a rare opportunity. however, popularity is starting to wane. time is running out. martha: of course, he is well aware of these things you are pointing out. i wonder if you see a difference in how he presented it today. clearly, he wants to sound tough on the issue, but he called it insurance reform, not health care reform. i thought that was interesting. he also talked about the end of the year. the believe that he is seeking some common ground here? >> he is a right to call it an insurance reform because that is what we would be changing most, possibly by addi

it requires omb as i mentioned annual assessment of continuity funding and performance.equires the office of science and technology policy to set minimum continuity communications standards. i think we've got to be asking the current administration how are they doing, and are they doing that, and when are they doing that and what is the performance of those federal agencies. president obama has made very clear his commitment to transparency. there is no greater issue on which we require some answers to be sure that when the citizenry really needs its government to be able to work in a crisis for our safety, for our security, that they are ready to do that job. it is not the time to ask it in the midst of the crisis and its by the way not terribly perspective to be asking any in the aftermath. let me close by saying, you know, i left the white house. it was january 2008, and i had started, i was already one year into planning for the transition of presidential power that was going to happen a year later. this was an issue that tremendously concerned me. i believe presiden

we will work with the appropriate committees on and with omb, cbo on. we anticipate that the agency will be pulling in staff and resources from the existing agency and additionally having new resources required. i will be happy to continue to work with you on that question. >> can you talk about the resources the agencies will need besides -- have you identified any of the resources? >> we have begun the process of identifying a number of individuals and the other resources the agency would need, but we're not at a place where you can give you even a reasonable estimate of that -- what additional measures beyond the transfer authorities would be required. it is something we are working quite hard on. >> i will close. mr. chairman, you might think as the subcommittee chair since a lot of the expertise for this is in the federal trade commission and might be in your jurisdiction here, i think you have a brand-new agency. don't know how much they're going to spend or how much resources they need. also, they're going to be taking on areas of expertise that

question of job creation or, rather, slowing job loss, between republican congressman jason chavitz and ombrs. >> how do you justify saying that you're slowing the free-fall? >> i think what we would do is look back at the job loss that we saw in the first quarter which was approaching 700,000 jobs a month and look at where we are right now. we're not happy with the job loss we're seeing right now. >> we're not happy either. but the projections and the administration put forward and what would happen or not happen if we did and didn't do the stimulus are dramatic. they're unacceptable. >> we believe the job loss is unacceptable as well and -- >> the president is quoted as saying, quote, the stimulus has done its job. is that true or not true? >> we believe the stimulus has had the impact which we predicted, which is job creation. >> so far the administration says the recovery act has saved or created 150,000 jobs. now, republicans criticize that number, saying simply the government's measure of this is impossible to verify if a job is created or saved. they say it's just too hard to measure

regarding the leaking of a small business administration attorney's name, who wrote part of an internal omb memo who wrote that negative economic and additional consequences of using the clean air act to regulate climate change, once this was released to the media, the administrator was smeared as being a bush appointee despite being appointed during the clinton administration. there were quite a few concerns about the leaking of that person's name. even in the house, the committee ranking member stated with regard to leaking that attorneys and that that attorneys' ability to serve now in three administrations, a democrat as well as republican, speaks to her professionalism and talent, her abilities and of to activities should not be questioned. i have not yet done in response back to my may 13 letter from you. i have included information on that. do you know when i will receive a response to that letter? >> i do not know, but i am happy to check on it. >> thank you very much. i would appreciate it if you would. there was an article in the "washington post" yesterday did constructing the cr

constitution, to the president and the way they do it is write into the law that he can make that decision or ombn make the decision, so, i think they believe that is actually constitutional, by giving him that power. >> so some of the conservative centrist blue dog democrats are making it clear they are not happy with obama-care as it stands, and, it raises the question of the blue dog dems, are going to be the respectful proposition to the white house, and maybe even join the republicans. >> typically the blue dog democrats have a little bit more bark than bite and tend to hold up the process, a little bit to get concessions for things they wanted. and now, they are really unhappy with this overall costs of the bills, a trillion dollars and most paid for with the tax on the wealthy and expected efficiencies in medicare and medicaid and the congressional budget office scored a $239 billion deficit from the bill over ten years and although there was budget gimmickry and they may get rid of that and the blue dogs are upset over the cost and there are freshmen who are not happy owe ksz taxes will b

so, we have other validations that some omb and others academic and other distinguished institutionswho can quantify exactly how much the hundreds of billions of dollars of savings are in some of the initiatives we take. so, with respect to the cbo score says we will put it in the context of a larger context. some in the congress want to direct scoring to include the benefits of prevention for example and early intervention and we have to have that score before we go forward. and that's part of what we're waiting for for the pay fors and then the cbo scoring after that as to what the bill will cost. as i said, i want this, i've told members as recently as this morning, squeeze out what you can out of the system. savings, savings, savings. and then we, we have to establish priorities. and that's very challenging, but otherwise the bill is endless. so we have to contain it. and it must be paid for. >> do you support the deal -- >> okay, this is the weekly gathering. the house speaker nancy pelosi holds with moebs of the press and a number of issues discussed there and we'll talk for ju

regarding the leaking of a small business administration attorney's name who wrote part of an internal omb memo highlighting the negative economic and the additional consequences of using the clean air act to regulate climate change. once this memo was released to the media the attorney was smeared as a bush appointee despite her being hired during the clinton administration. there was really bipartisan concerns about the leaking of that person's name. even the -- in the house, the small business committee ranking member nadia valesqez leaking that name that attorney ability to serve three administrations, democrat as well as republican speaks to her ability and talent and her objectivities should not be questioned. i've not gotten a response back from my may 13th letter from you. i've included information to that from senator whitehouse calling for an investigation. do you know when i'll receive a response to that letter? >> i don't know. but i'm happy to check on it for you >> thank you. there was an article in the "washington post" yesterday deconstructing the climate bill, questions an

our administration is focused on doing it that way. >> it is more than eight years since you were at omb. secretary rice talked about how she asked this question which came in as secretary of state and she was never able to get a quick answer about how much we spend on country x. adjust your that eight years from now it will be the same thing. if you cannot just be your out that money your spending in a place, it is hard to see- properly in a greater development and diplomatic efforts. >> i think our systems are better developed than there were eight years ago. there is more of an ability to look at the organizations in this state has responsibility for. if one asks the question, what are the biggest pieces that one has to get their hands around, as opposed to how do you get every source coordinated, you can make significant progress more quickly. i do not want to go beyond the boundaries of our process. our qddr will be aimed at the institutions we are responsible for, but in consultation with other organizations. there will be a shared objective to be closer to that point. >> it is dif

is real simple to download the ball and be materials -- they are little more complex -- download the ombterials. it is a little more complex. it is not just the absence of oversight and capitol hill, they don't know how to do oversight these days. host: san antonio, republican line. good morning. caller: how are you guys today? i was wondering -- i come from a military family, three generations. what i was wondering is, why do the governments send -- like, for the national guard, reserves, send them to the camp here in san antonio instead of sending these young and -- young men and women to the border to help with the fight against illegal drugs and, of course, illegal immigration. guest: i can't answer the question. i don't know the specifics. it depends on what the unit's mission is. one of the kinds of problems we have on capitol though. they go over these things once lightly and don't peel the onion. when i worked for the senator, i got a hard lesson from him. he, after a hearing, lectured me saying, don't you ever have meet again is a question that you don't know the answer to -- ha

in addition, as the agencies update their she plans, will be working with omb and the departments and agencies for key southwest border priorities that are identified in the strategy. this will insure accountability and make it clear that combating the flow of drugs and money and weapons across the southwest border must be a core element of our nation's approach to the entire drug problem. it is essential that we work together as one team to stop the flow of drugs into our country as well as the flow of all currency and weapons that fuel cartel violence. the congress and the ministration will need to work very closely together. i am looking forward to working with this committee, and i know that part of the focus you have identified is accountability, and we are proud to ensure that. -- we are proud -- we are prepared to answer that. i asked the directors of the high intensity drug trafficking areas to meet with me along the southwest border last month. what the director has told me and what i believe the members in this committee already know is that our front-line state and local la

guidance, but as well as many of the things that the omb guidance pointed out is the findings we had in our 2005 report. host: and back to this story, told g.a.o. investigators that a contractor has to do a pretty bad job to receive a rating of good, a rating that pays in excess of 85% of the award fee veragetteds and that gets back to the point of linking the performance to the amount of they might have received. if a contractor was basically meeting the expectations of the government, it was considered excellent performance. so they would get up to 85% or greater for their award fee. and so that kind of posed the question, well, what does it take to get a good rating? and the comment was that you have to do a pretty bad job to get a good. host: so g.a.o. is not just looking at the bonchenusses but also at the rating system and were there any judgments made about that rating system and how useful it is? veragetteds yes. and we're talking about fees paid for performance here. and we did look at a number of number of contracts. we looked at the vehicles they used and the scales and th

and frankly, i have just seen a draft of an omb outline that looks like a piecemeal version of the banked. in that plan, the bank would be set up as a peace within the department of transportation that would only focus on transportation projects. this is foor too narrow a vision. we not only lose all the enormous benefits a bank could bring to an environmental energy and telecommunications, projects under the proposal, we lose the ability to attract investment, and to leverage private dollars. as a former treasury secretary, mary peters as observed, there are up jards of $4 billion available in the private sector for infrastructure infrastructure vehement. since the treasury, this is important to keep in mind, the treasury department is the sole entity that borrows on behalf of the frl government and can do so more, the bank should be under the treasury's authority, otherwise it just becomes a part of the department of transportation. and their existing finance program. we need to be thinking bigger. and if ever there was a time to start thinking big, it would be now. . i hope this will h

third, it places a moratorium on public/private competitions under omb circular a-76 under the department complies with an existing statutory requirement to develop information needed to manage its service contractors, plan for its civilian employee work force and identify functions that would be subject to public/private competition and fourth we would authorize the secretary to establish a new defense civilian leadership program to help recruit, train and retain highly qualified civilian employees to help lead the department of defense over the next 20 years. a very important provision in this bill is section 1031. which would address the problems that exist with military commissions. the military commissions provisions that we have in law today do not provide basic guarantees of fairness identified by our supreme court. the existing provisions place a cloud, therefore, over military commissions and have led some to conclude that the use of military commissions can never be fair, credible or consistent with our basic principles of justice. earlier this year, the president stated that mi

. >> it's part with omb. it's high. it's over 60% for the arc loan and that is well beyond in what we have for any of our other programs. so our expectation is, you know, that's what we'll get. >> okay. just one final comment here. mr. shear also made a comment and i had a question i was wanting to ask -- a couple of weeks ago we had a group in here where we talked about the amount of paperwork that's involved in the 7a program and mr. shear made the same comment a minute ago that it was so cumbersome that many of the people were refusing to participate because of that. have you looked at that in trying to do the paperwork? my family is in the banking business as well. i used to do this. it's horrible. absolutely horrible. and to go through this process -- and a minute ago you made a comment on your disaster relief program went into 14 days to 18 days. i just wish that it was 14 days on a sba bank loan. >> i believe it's five to seven business days. but that's because since the -- we have done process reengineering. tha

is real simple to download the ball and be materials -- they are little more complex -- download the omb materials. it is a little more complex. it is not just the absence of oversight and capitol hill, they don't know how to do oversight these days. host: san antonio, republican line. good morning. caller: how are you guys today? i was wondering -- i come from a military family, three generations. what i was wondering is, why do the governments send -- like, for the national guard, reserves, send them to the camp here in san antonio instead of sending these young and -- young men and women to the border to help with the fight against illegal drugs and, of course, illegal immigration. guest: i can't answer the question. i don't know the specifics. it depends on what the unit's mission is. one of the kinds of problems we have on capitol though. they go over these things once lightly and don't peel the onion. when i worked for the senator, i got a hard lesson from him. he, after a hearing, lectured me saying, don't you ever have meet again is a question that you don't know the answer to --

. >> also in the hearing, robert nabors, the deputy director of omb, he seemed to criticize states foring what he called unwise choices to use stimulus money to balance their budget, kiran. the administration says actual stimulus funding will peak in 2010. >>> of course, there's talk of perhaps another stimulus. how's that going over on the hill? >> you can be sure that was asked in the hearing. in that hearing yesterday, this all comes from a white house economic advisor, kiran, earlier this week, as you know, bringing up the possibility that we should possibly start thinking about a second stimulus. the house majority leader said this week that he would be open or would consider a second stimulus. robert nabors, the white house's deputy budget director said clearly no one in the add anybody strags is talking about a second stimulus at this point. we're just wanting to implement the recovery act that's been passed. here's our answer for now. >> kate baldwin, thanks so much. taking its rightful place in a long line of amazing performance machines. this is the new e-coupe. this is merce

we will work with omb and the congress in putting together the necessary fiscal program in the remaining two years. i am mindful that, during this time a financial crisis, this decision will result in additional tough choices for the department. . i am convinced that this is an important and necessary step to ensure that we continue to properly support the needs of our commanders in the field while providing relief for our current force and that their families. >> of this temporary increase helps us address concerns. it will help us get a better handle on boiled time and boost the number of people we can deploy with capabilities that our commanders must need. it is not just about to leave. is about renewing our efforts to fight these two wars. this has many components, managing stress for troops and families as onis one. as you well know, i just returned from a trip to both places. what i found was, cross their, there was a much deeper appreciation of counterinsurgency warfare that i found in the past, especially in afghanistan where, nearly to a Ñç;kw5r>hÑú [unintelligible] a perfect e

the taxes on the lower two income brackets would double in the year 2013, if there is a study by the omb determines that certain savings have not occurred. what the barton amendment does is direct the study to find that regardless of the savings that the taxes on the lower two income brackets, the tax increases do not go into effect, said the effect of the barton amendment, if adopted, -- so the effect would be beginning in 2013, only those citizens who make over $1 million would have their taxes increased by the surtax. over $1 million would have their increased by the surtax. the reason that we don't just repeal the tax increase, and that's why i'm glad the chairman of the ways and means committee is here, is that we don't have the jurisdiction to repeal but we have jurisdiction over studies. so we use the study as a hook to at least save those citizens who make more than the -- who make less than $1 million to try to save them some money beginning in the year 2013 been so this is the $1 million taxpayer protection amendment, those that make less than $1 million. >> mr. chairman. >> th

we'll work with the appropriate committees on and with omb and cbo on.we anticipate that the agency will be pulling in staff and resources from the existing agencies and additionally having new resources required. i'd be happy to continue to work with you on that question. >> can you talk about the resources the agencies will need besides -- have you identified any of the resources? >> we have begun the process of identifying the number of individuals and the other resources the agency would need, but we are not at a place now where i can give you even a reasonable estimate of that -- what additional measures beyond the transfer authorities would be required. it is something we are working quite hard on. >> i'll just close -- mr. chairman, you might think as a subcommittee chair since the expertise has been in the federal trade commission and this is a new agency you might think this is your new jurisdiction here. i think we got to move carefully and develop a brand-new agency. they don't know how much they're going to spend. they don't know what resourc

regarding the leaking of a small business administration attorney's name, who wrote part of an internal omb memo who wrote that negative economic and additional consequences of using the clean air act to regulate climate change, once this was released to the media, the administrator was smeared as being a bush appointee despite being appointed during the clinton administration. there were quite a few concerns about the leaking of that person's name. even in the house, the committee ranking member stated with regard to leaking that attorneys and that that attorneys' ability to serve now in three administrations, a democrat as well as republican, speaks to her professionalism and talent, her abilities and of to activities should not be questioned. i have not yet done in response back to my may 13 letter from you. i have included information on that. do you know when i will receive a response to that letter? >> i do not know, but i am happy to check on it. >> thank you very much. i would appreciate it if you would. there was an article in the "washington post" yesterday did constructing the cr

when the omb came out last week and indicated the current plans that have been put forward in fact didne. >> of course, there are a lot of people, i'm sure a lot more than 50% in indiana, that have some serious questions, mike barnicle. we just showed the president upside down on health care approval ratings. he's got to turn those numbers around. >> he's got a tough job and last night was part of the process of trying to turn those numbers around. senator, let's play a pretend game here. we're in gary, indiana. you're addressing a town hall meeting, i stand up, i'm from gary, indiana, a town decimated over the many, many years by the economy. and i ask you the following question. i say, "i heard the president of the united states, he's a democrat, senator, you're a democrat, tell me that this health plan is going to cut costs in the future and expand care in the future. i don't know much about the economy, but how do we do that? how do we cut costs at the same time as we expand care?" >> well, that's an excellent question, mike. i'm not sure if i can answer that. i think it is appropr

i think it is in the process of being reviewed by either my staff or omb so it should be relatively shortly. i should also indicate to you that there were other criteria in addition to the unemployment. the risk of forest fire, the capacity to create sustainable jobs, the capacity to use biomass. the opportunity to create jobs for recreation sites, roads, trails. there were 2700 projects submitted to us. we did our best to try to rank them based on a variety of criteria. i can reassure you that there was absolutely no determination relative to votes. until you told me you voted against the stimulus i had no idea that that was your vote and frankly in terms of my job, i don't care. my job is to make sure that these resources are used to create jobs and to help people transition from that time to better times and create that 21st century economy and we are very focused on danette job. >> thank you mr. vilsack. i appreciate that because it was adjusted their votes may have something to do with the fact that wyoming has not receive the funds and i'm pleased to hear they are coming. briefly, sec

in addition, as the agencies update their she plans, will be working with omb and the departments and agencies for key southwest border priorities that are identified in the strategy. this will insure accountability and make it clear that combating the flow of drugs and money and weapons across the southwest border must be a core element of our nation's approach to the entire drug problem. it is essential that we work together as one team to stop the flow of drugs into our country as well as the flow of all currency and weapons that fuel cartel violence. the congress and the ministration will need to work very closely together. i am looking forward to working with this committee, and i know that part of the focus you have identified is accountability, and we are proud to ensure that. -- we are proud -- we are prepared to answer that. i asked the directors of the high intensity drug trafficking areas to meet with me along the southwest border last month. what the director has told me and what i believe the members in this committee already know is that our front-line state and local la

regarding the leaking of a small business administration attorney's name, who wrote part of an internal ombo who wrote that negative economic and additional consequences of using the clean air act to regulate climate change, once this was released to the media, the administrator was smeared as being a bush appointee despite being appointed during the clinton administration. there were quite a few concerns about the leaking of that person's name. even in the house, the committee ranking member stated with regard to leaking that attorneys and that that attorneys' ability to serve now in three administrations, a democrat as well as republican, speaks to her professionalism and talent, her abilities and of to activities should not be questioned. i have not yet done in response back to my may 13 letter from you. i have included information on that. do you know when i will receive a response to that letter? >> i do not know, but i am happy to check on it. >> thank you very much. i would appreciate it if you would. there was an article in the "washington post" yesterday did constructing the crime