what about the guy who came in last month from syria or iraq or yemen.f the fascinating aspects of this. what were these operatives waiting for. why didn't they operate. i suspect one of the things the investigation will show is that investigators said we can't follow these guys around forever, if we're not certain they are up to something. >> paul cruickshank, the estimated number of foreign fighters who have returned from iraq and syria to france is roughly 500. how can they even prioritize targets in a pool that big? >> it's about 200 to france more than 500 for the whole of the european union. you're right, it's very very difficult to prioritize to figure out who you're going to watch and it's really as phil was saying more of an art than a science. often the information is very fragmentary indeed. in belgium we have just seen a very significant counterterrorism operation, the thwarting of what belgians now believe was a major ambitious terrorist attack possibly against a sensitive target in belgium. it was a big counterterrorism success from the bel

he said it might be past his lifetime he thinks we'll we'll be in iraq for the next 50 years or so. and dick cheney says the pulling out too quickly has resulted in where we are in iraq. >> it's too early to say how long the commitment is going to last trying to defeat these people. i don't think you can put a time limit on this because what is necessary is to see this in the context of what is happening obviously not just in iraq but in syria and lebanon and yemen and nigeria and central africa and other parts of the world. my view is wherever these people are you are going to have to go and confront them militarily. there's got to be someone's boots on the ground, not necessarily ours if it is others that would be better but i would see what you're seeing developing over the next few years is how to you construct the right alliance with the right capability to defeat them where they are. frankly you would defeat i.s.i.l. and wouldn't contend the problem. >> increasingly critics of the pullout are saying that we are definitely not at the right level right now and if there was someth

. >> officials say 1400 french citizens have joined extremist groups to fight in syria or iraq or say they are planning to do so. >> let's look at some other news stories for you on "france 24" this hour. more trouble at the top floor a german group -- at the top for a german group, whose founder resigned over photos of him posing as adolf hitler and derogatory comments about immigrants. the woman who replaced him has also stepped down, citing threats. eu ministers are meeting to discuss further sanctions on russia after a new rise in fighting in ukraine. the meeting was called after pro-russian rebels attacked the port of mariupol over the weekend. some encouraging news on ebola. the number of new confirmed cases this week is at 99, the first time the weekly total has fallen below 100 since june of last year. the world health organization now says the epidemic has moved to its second phase the focus shifting from slowing transmission to ending the epidemic. all right. the auction house souththeby's, says it is putting together its biggest sale of contemporary art ever. it is valued a

sons and her daughter are alleged to have tried to leave this country to go fight with isis in syria or iraqthe eldest son got caught and none of them made it there. >>> whether or not it is working, the fight against isis is in part a military fight being waged in iraq and syria. france voted to reup it's own authorization from the french component of the military fight against isis in the middle east. for our part, the united states government has never bothered to even debate this issue, let alone vote on it. president obama met with top democrats and top republicans from both houses of congress today. the white house gave a written readout, they call it a readout to the press afterwards describing what happened in that meeting. one of the things the leadership was talking about with president obama was the prospect of a debate, and maybe a vote about whether to authorize the u.s. military fight in iraq and syria, but apparently there is no rush and no immediate expectation of any action. let alone a debate. for all of the chest pounding and concern and expressions out outrage and sympath

discussed how to stop would be jihadists in the west from becoming indoctrinated and traveling to syria or iraq or else carry out terror attacks at home. here is britain's foreign secretary speaking out. >> the recent terrible events in paris have reminded us that the battle against iso--- isil is not confined within the borders of iraq and syria and that this poisonous ideology threatens our own systems and the systems of our allies. >> japan is under pressure to secure two of its citizens being held hostage by the group. militants released a video on tuesday demanding $200 million within 72 hours to save the lives of the freelance journalist and security worker. japan's prime minister has reiterated that the ransom will not be paid. there has been another shock for france, meanwhile, following the attacks by homegrown terrorists earlier this month. authorities say at least six former french soldiers have joined jihadist fighting in syria and iraq. >> the first marine infantry parachute regiment, one of the most elite of the french army. this is where an unnamed man from northern paris trained

it says it's likely the mediator would be found in syria or iraq. >> if japanese reach a direct contact with them or through a mediator i think the two japanese hostages will not be killed. >> he suggested the turkish government might be able to help. he says they have been been to secure the release of 49 people, including diplomats, through negotiations with the militant group. >> it is complicated matter but i do believe they can, if they seek, they can reach to correct and direct contact. but the problem, as you know is the short time. >>> nhk has been in communication with an islamic state representative concerning the two japanese hostages. messages were exchanged and a conversation took place by internet phone earlier on friday morning japan time. the representative said a statement would soon be released. during the conversation, the spokesperson criticized japan. he said japanese people who fight the militant group are infidels. nhk asked about negotiations with government officials for the release of the two japanese captives. [ speaking foreign language ] >> the representativ

isis, not sure if there was direction by isis or him just trying to bolster his own credentials. >> there's no evidence coulibaly traveled to syria and iraq and had no formal connection with the group or connection. he was fond of it and wanted to claim his operation for it but not linked to it in any greater way. >> belgium has also been very tough or trying to be the toughest against returning nationals who have fought overseas and i'm wondering if that has anything to do with kind of sharpening the divide there. >> well, they've got to get tough because there's a big problem. 150 belgium nationals in iraq. and syria right now. almost all of them to be with isis and 30 of them killed there and 70 back in belgium. that is still a lot of them to monitor. i'm half belgian. i go to belgium. i talk to officials there. they're very stressed out there. they don't feel they have enough resources to combat this threat. >> it's certainly in the united states, a concern but belgium is front and center now. colonel thank you for being with was, and paul cruikshank, thank you. "charlie hebdo." 3 million copies quickly sold out and first issue since

french police estimate that around 300 french nationals are in either sirria or iraq -- syria or iraq at the moment fighting for isis so this is a big problem in france, in germany. and of course the suspects could be anywhere at the moment. they were heading north of here at speed along motorways. they could be in belgium by now. it's not just a french issue. this is a northern european manhunt. >> bill neely, thank you for staying late and joining us on this incredible day. thank you very much. >>> joining me now from washington is nbc news justice correspondent pete williams. pete, what are we learning in washington from the fbi and from the defense intelligence sources who would be looking at this? >> reporter: well, a couple of things. one, as soon as the french authorities got the names, the u.s. was going back and is looking to see if there was a possible connection between this attack and people in the u.s. and they say tonight they haven't found any. that they have been looking at their databases and don't see at this point any contact between the suspect in france and people

in fact, traveled overseas be it to the arabian peninsula, to afghanistan or pakistan or to syria or iraq. this is a phenomenon now. it's something that the police and intelligence agencies are aware about. in fact politicians including president hollande have acknowledged that these people did pose a threat. it's been said that france cannot afford to be complacent assuming that the people go overseas and perpetuate the attacks and it could come on france's doorstep. that happened in the last three days. inevitably there will be people asking why wasn't more done to prevent it and what can be done in the future? to be fair to the security forces and to the intelligence agencies, there have been reports of a number of raids. a few weeks ago in al jazeera we reported raids against what police described as a jihadist cells they claim they have broken up to the north of paris. the fact of the matter is if you look at potentially hundreds of young people overseas and coming back it's not possible for there to be an intelligence officers following every single one of of them. clearly, there's

the kids have planned to travel first to turkey and then syria or iraq to join isis.s. their parents are indian immigrants. after her son's plea hearing, sa sareen khan accused isis of brainwashing children. >> we condemn this violence in the strongest possible terms. we condemn the brutal tactics of isis and groups like it and we condemn the brainwashing and the grooming of children through social media and internet. and we have a message for isis and fellow social media recruiters. leave our children alone. >> i spoke to sareen khan and thomas dur ken, actually the attorney for the son who joined us as well. >> you've spoken forcefully against isis against muslim extremists who try to through the internet. do you feel without that influence, your son would not be in the trouble he is in now? >> yes, i fully think that would not have happened if it wasn't for social media. if it wasn't for the internet he would never be in the situation he is in today. >> what is your message to other parents out there? >> to be i don't know maybe we protected our children, frytrying

it happens every day every six-hours in yemen or iraq or syria. my concern is how many other units are there are these all fighting connected to a chain of of of events. >> if i look back to the debates between al gore and george bush nobody knew who he was. the now everybody knows who they are. that was a turning point for us. let them deal with their own issues. that has changed today. if you had i-94 druthers how old you prefer a change. what should change as this crisis comes to an end. >> i have talked to many experts this past summer. french british and other europeans knew already eight months ago that thousands of jihadists were fighting on the back and eventually they are going to come back. this is the early come back or one of the incidents that will tell the french or european what will come back as the french are engaged. you just mentioned the discussion in america wruzas not able to detect them. you remember the incidents about 10,000 cars were burned in 82 cities. if the networks were able to pull that mobilization that big in two

they are not people that just went to syria or iraq and spent a couple of months there.they've been trained and they look like they've been trained by military or former military personnel. >> reporter: security was stepped up throughout paris and around the u.s. immediately after the attack. >> we raised the security highest level. >> reporter: u.s. intelligence has swung into action. >> intelligence analysts in the united states starting when this kicked off this morning, have been working closely with their french counterparts to provide intelligence information, any indication that this is part of a broader threat. >> reporter: at the white house, president obama condemned the attack as a cowardly evil. >> they are attacking freedom of speech and freedom of the >> reporter: thursday will be a national day of mourning for france. the country's president said the flags will fly at half mass for three days here. late tonight thousands gathered in paris. holding signs up saying, not afraid, and this was everywhere it seemed i am charlie. the whole nation united in sorrow

sowee yeah will play iran or iraq in the semifinal. the other two will be decided on friday. two countries with a lot of history between them, they will face each other at and stadium that's following by defending champions against the united arab emritz. 2004 african champions taking control of group b at the cup of nations. they came from behind to complete 2012 winners. they played to a goalless goal in the other group game, with both sides on points, one step closer to a quarter final place. the champions have been showing off their newest acquisition, 16-year-old norwegian play maker, they have been described as the next, and he was the target of many top european clubs including barcelona instead it was the teenager for a reported fee of reported three. $5,348. breaking a record, that stood for more than a century. i think lit be quite exciting. it is a dream come true, being able to train with this club is amazing. i am really excited and i want to start training with them. the new club has topped the rich list for the 10th year. real madrid has come top in the survey

isis although there is no evidence that he and his girlfriend hayat boumediene ever fought in syria or iraq. the two weren't always extremists. that is boumeddiene in a bikini, they think coulibaly, a convicted armed robber was radicalized in jail. he posed in video and photos shown by lemoned newspaper with various guns. last night, french media say they found his hideout, a rented apartment in the suburbs, inside there were several automatic weapons, explosives, money and an isis flag. the feel good factor of today's huge and peaceful march has eased tensions in france somewhat, but the country is now facing hard questions about homegrown violent extremism and how the french state proposes to keep its citizens safe. one big challenged, jeff, is the sheer number of potentially radicalized individuals that the french security services have to watch. one official told me yesterday there are now more than 1,000.in >> glor: liz palmer, thank you very much. >> a german newspaper that reprinted the charlie hebdo cartoons has been attacked by arsonists, mark phillips joins us now from dresden, ge

if you go over there to fight in a war like iraq or syria for the islamic states you have a chance of surviving. you're a soldier. it's risky, but you'll probably make it home alive. if you come back to europe after some training there to do an attack in europe, you will probably be killed. right? it's not -- they're all -- in fact, the suicidal attacks. the european police are senator enough, they're going to have a shootout and you're going to get killed. is it something where they become more radicalized once they go over to iraq or syria and come back even more radicalized than when they went over? >> reporter: it's not so much the chances of dying. in both cases, you're probably going to die. it is, what do they think they can achieve with the death? if you're a radical and living in madrid or some small city in france and you dream of joining the caliphate and fighting to defend your prophet and listen to all of the propaganda that's online, you can either pack up a bag, come generally here to istanbul, make your way to the border, cross into syria and die, what will very likely

going to do a send a message to all those young anonymous terrorists who go fight that war in syria or iraq, if you really want to make an impact, why blow yourself up in a suicide bombing? the way to do it is in the west. your question is exactly right. >> eleanor. >> well, the other side of that is that tens of thousands of people took to the streets of paris and said jui suis charley, jui suis ahmed because one of the people they killed was a muslim. i think we are looking at a noxious stew, particularly in europe where this anti-immigrant sense is really strong plus anti-semitism is on the rise. you have the national front party which in the past has been one step removed from a white french supreme sift group is now moving into the mainstream and i think marie lepen is trying to bring that party into the mainstream and if the election were held today, that party would win. this is transforming politics in europe. the implication here, we've been waiting more than a dozen years for al-qaeda style mass events to take place. i think this shows how easy it is to stage much smaller events a

becoming outliers of massachusetts or paris, what ended up happening they began seeking defensible jihad, the term experts are use, meaning they could wage war in iraqt was a preacher preaching lone wolf. and in the case of the others they fell under the influence of a paris radicalized preacher who said go fight jihad in iraq. that's what they were trying to do. also so interesting, although they were trying to maintain an operational secrecy, they were well on the path to radicalization and ultimately did troovl the countries in which their beliefs became almost more deeply ingrained. they were able to get from syria, we're now learning they returned last summer whereas tamerlan tsarnaev was able to get to dagestan. this idea they would become empowered through violence in the countries that they were now rejecting is very clear. >> we'll look for your reporting at 7:00. deborah feyerick thank you very much. special coverage continues after this. >>> i didn't actually put it together particularly for publication. i saw the breaking news as i was about to go to bed here in australia and stayed up to watch the events unfolding on television. ♪ >> tr

. >> translator: terrorism is bad everywhere it does not matter whether it happens in paris or iraq or in africa by boko haram. >> reporter: chancellor merkel raised possibility of funding to fight the group. >> i believe that countries in the region are capable of raising troops to intervene military in the boko haram issue. we will appreciate logistical support and other support that our europe yn partners are able to give. >> reporter: troops are being deployed to take on the militant extremists. >> translator: we cannot be indifferent to what is going on because we are directly concerned and because we believe camaroon cannot be alone to face boko haram. >> reporter: it will not be easy to stop the escalating violence. another four people were killed in a suicide car bombing at a bus station on sunday. it is one of many such attacks in recent weeks which the nigerian authorities seem powerless to prevent. the army confronted the militants which crossed over to the territory and freed around 30 of the hostages. this illustrates how the insurgency is no longer just nigeria's problem.

not only believing the threat is in yemen or syria or iraq or other parts in the region, it's right here. one does not have to travel to become radicalized. they can do it on the internet. at home. neil: as bad guys want to blow us away the president is focused more it seems on giveaways. president obama signing a memorandum for mandatory sick-leave today. if all these government goodies are meant to be a distraction or are they warranted? tracy, what do you think? >> i think foreign policy has been his weakest link and it still is. and they said ignore it it will go away. i think that is policy. i don't think he knows how to handle it. he's in over his head in all this. we're behind the eight ball. ignorance is just making it worse. neil: i think that -- these terror threats notwithstanding he says on issues like this, they test poll well. mandatory days off. mandatory coverage. sick days. it does resonate. i wonder whether he's getting the base together. >> this is political misdirection at the worst possible timing. the new york post said it great today. they had a picture of obama wa

one of the foreign fighters trained in syria and we know people have left france and gone to syria or iraq and trained and gone back to france. the numbers are increasing as well. one thing that's concerning to me is in spite of the air strikes the numbers joining the fight, in iraq and syria are increasing. >> we have a lot more to discuss including what this means for the united states and terror threats in this country. stand by we have much more. the breaking news continues right after this. your eyes really are unique. in fact, they depend on a unique set of nutrients. that's why there's ocuvite to help protect your eye health. as you age your eyes can lose vital nutrients. ocuvite helps replenish key eye nutrients. ocuvite is a vitamin made just for your eyes from the eye care experts at bausch + lomb. ocuvite has a unique formula that's just not found in any leading multivitamin. your eyes are unique so help protect your eye health with ocuvite. [ high-pitched ] nailed it! [ normal voice ] you're right, that was really easy. i know, i told you so. on progressive.com you can compare

it's believed there are up to 3,000 european nationals that made that trip to syria or iraq and are now fighting or returned back. very big numbers. more than 500 back in the european union right now. those are big numbers as well. what belgium counter terrorism officials are telling me is they suspect this group they launched against were in syria, were connected to isis and they suspect the isis leadership encouraged or directed them to come back to launch an attack in retaliation for air strikes in syria and iraq which have been launched by the anti-isis coalition. belgium has been involved in those air strikes in iraq. there may be motivation from isis to launch attacks in belgium. we know that the spokesman of isis back in september said the group was going to launch attacks in the west in retaliation for the western offensive against it from the air in syria and iraq. it appears they may have been well true to their word. >> paul cruickshank, stand by for a moment. i believe this press conference is beginning in brussels now. i believe there is an english translation. let's listen

look, whether it's syria or iraq, there are people who we don't like because we dislike the other sidesis and al qaeda even more. >> what about the saudis? >> the saudis are in trouble. >> the president visited saudi arabia, by the way. >> the saudis are in deep trouble. to the north you have the isis and iraq and you have the houthi rebels who don't like them in the south. and the east-northeast saudi arabia it's all shi'ia and the shi'ia are dominant in bahrain. >> and have a declining commodity because their oil isn't as valued. >> let's let mort get in. >> no, listen, i think we are looking at a disintegration of that part of the world, including a lot of our key allies. saudi arabia, like it or not is a key ally for the united states and we really must find some way -- look what happened when we had this tries in oil. >> can that kingdom survive? >> oh, yes, it can. >> meaning this whole turmoil and chaos in revolution? >> they're worried about it. and the way they survive is they export all the radicalism and need to be called on that. because they are what is behind a lot of the

so they have an launch another attack and go out in a blaze of glory or go to syria or iraq and maybeet smuggled through there. but they're not going to be able to use any documents. they'd have to get fake other documents to do it. >> we know that other people have been detained. what can you tell as far as the third suspect who turned himself in? what can investigators get from him? >> you know, he could turn out to be the usual -- i was just a get away driver and didn't know they were going to slaughter everybody kind of story from him. not saying that's not true that but that's often what we get with criminal suspects on the robbery murders. they told me to try the car, wait out front, i didn't know they'd kill everybody. so he turned himself and he'll get extensive questioning and some of that may not be as valuable if they have absconded now and are trying to race somewhere to get away. their base of operations they're from france, frances. they were born there, so they have all the contacts there in the paris metropolitan area. so they could loop back and go in there to get som

less that terrorists or iraq gets their hands on weapons of mass destruction we have to go all out. we have to make a 100% effort. and i wonder shibley if you had a question that would say something to this effect and what i'm getting at is a lot of americans seem to have an exaggerated fear of terrorism and isis and what could happen to them and their families and communities, but we keep sending the same people over and over again to fight a war that we say we can't win. so the question is if you had included in your survey how would you feel about this if the draft was reinstituted in somebody close to you was going to possibly be sent to fight this war that you are in favor of. how would you then feel about it? i would be interested in that. it seems to me it has become too easy for people of hawkish inclinations to say i'm a little concerned so i think we ought to go and send in the 82nd airborne. >> do you want to take take one time? >> why don't we take one more if you don't mind shibley and then we will come back. so in the third row here. yes. >> i am from th

the fbi caught 12 americans in the past year trying to go to syria or iraq to join isis. so, tonight, there's a lot of worry about everything right here at home and the u.s. government has just sent out a warning for americans traveling abroad to be on alert worldwide. david. >> that warning late today. thank you. >>> one more image on this tonight. that #jesuischarlie tweeted more than 5 million time. around the world. you can see that lit up on the screen. we'll have much later in our broadcast, on "nightline" and right here throughout the weekend. >>> but we move on and to the deep freeze across the nation as we head into this weekend creating chaos on the highway. this image from kalamazoo, michigan, an explosion in the distance there, those are fireworks unleashed when two semi-trucks collided. setting off a deadly 170-car pile-up. now, another punch of cold air on the way. abc's senior meteorologist rob marciano reporting in tonight. >> reporter: tonight -- deadly driving. a 170-vehicle pile-up in michigan on major interstate 94 mangled cars and tractor-trailers bur

people who have been, as evan was saying earlier, they come from yemen or mali or iraq or syria, theyave some experience. they've returned to their home country. now they've banded together. may have they've tapped into their networks a little bit but central command al qaeda doesn't know anything about this. or it's possible these are lone wolves. these could be native born french citizens who have never left france who have police or army training and decided to use that because they've been radicalized in a mosque somewhere in paris. >> how do you take all that information and then try to come up with a theory of how to find these people? they seem to have some training maybe not that much training? it wasn't a suicide attack. where do you go for that information if you're the french authorities how to stop the next attack? >> it's a million dollar question. it's complex. the fact you don't need a passport to cross borders in the european union makes trafficking quite easy. whether it's the access of finance or access of ak-47s or training or pulling people in from syria. over 1,00

this particular sense, you have goals by militants, whether in yemen or iraq or other places. they are calling on followers, whoever listens, go and carry out attacks and finally on france, you have in the eyes of the ultraconservative, france is waging a cultural warfare in the sense that the state itself -- the ideology of the state is a secular state. in this particular sense, many elements have converged and brought about this particular escalation of attacks in france. >> and we mentioned at the top, this is the nightmare scenario. it's obviously as fawaz is saying, in europe and in the united states that something like this could happen here. somebody from the united states who radicalizes in the united states and finds a way to get out of the country for a year or two. how worried are you about something like this happening here? >> it's a concern. but i've been involved in many of those investigations. i know we have have good police and intelligence networks in place, we've been able to thwart attacks like this where people had gone abroad and received training and ca

. >> look the situation in yemen and the situation in afghanistan or syria or iraq or any of the other conflict zones in the a middle east that we've been looking at are very different. some of dynamics are the same. to the extent that the central government and the yemeni security services can't enforce their where writ outside of the capital, it's been that way for several years. the difficulty is not that yemen books failed state. the difficulty is that people take advantage ever the short term chaos between the lack of political equilibrium they have now and whatever the preliminary equilibrium will be. it is an opportunity ink situation. >> the yes yes yemenis are not able, what are we going to do? >> the number one thing helping president hadi and his government helping people back to the negotiation tables and the muscle off the street. it is pretty clear the tribal faction will use their muscle to force people to thearms couldn't be won around the negotiating table, to the extent that the united states and our allies in the gulf can get people back to the negotiating table that

. >> you should support the islamic causes whether we're talking about somalia or afghanistan or iraqr chechnya. >> it's clear to the west that awlaki is a growing danger, infecting the minds of muslims everywhere. just months after the skype call, united states army major nidal hasan goes on a shooting rampage at his base in ft. hood, texas. hasan kills 13 fellow soldiers and calls awlaki his inspiration. they'd exchanged e-mails. the cleric turned terror leader takes credit. his website reads, "nidal hasan is a hero." >> we all knew that he had to be killed. >> that was clearly stated. >> just one month later -- >> breaking news. >> awlaki sends the so-called underpants bomber to blow up northwest flight 253 as it lands in detroit christmas day 2009. >> a passenger tried to detonate some kind of explosive. >> the plot is foiled, but cia agents now know there is no time to lose. anwar awlaki is waging a relentless bloody war against americans, more than ever, storm says, the cia is realizing they need him. >> america as a whole has turned into a nation of evil. >> awlaki must be elim

if you can't come to syria or iraq do these things at home. we see it around the world australia, boston. paris. the attempt top equivocate or broaden these words is baffling quite frankly. >> when you limit your ability to gather intelligence you open yourself up to an attack. philadelphia when you reduce your military sphoadged historic lows and create safe havens by withdrawing against them. isis is just one of the threats we face. they are in a competition with -- with al qaeda. they are richer than they have ever bern. they have foreign fighters with american and european passports. this should be a wakeup call to the president and the congress. it's just a matter of time that we are going to get here at home if somebody doesn't adjust soon. martha: thank you very much. it's a very frightening prospect. senator linlds i graham, thank you. bill: 20 minutes before the hour. some disney visitors went for disney fun but came home with a contagious disease. martha: they shouted allahu akbar and murdered 12 people. howard dean says don't call th

not he actually made to it syria or iraq whether or not he was given instructions by this group, we really don't know. and there are still some suggestions that these folks were identifying themselves at least to the eyewitnesses as being affiliated with al qaeda's branch in yemen. there is no love lost between isis and al qaeda in the arabian peninsula. they hate each other in a public way. they issue nasty statements about each other. it is not possible that they were both. maybe they were something else. maybe they were home growns. maybe they were doing this out of inspiration from seeing aqap in yemen, having seen isis and taking mat enters into their own hands. >> we don't know yet. >> there are ties between these folks and the recruitment networks that have led people in syria and iraq to join these folks. >> jim, let's talk about that suspect evan was just talking about. he reportedly helped funnel fighters to iraq's insurgency. and you was sentenced to 18 months in prison. how closely was he being monitored? >> it is difficult to say because it is conducted by fra

isis has embraced these attacks in paris and she could end up in either syria or iraq.ll l protect her and there's virtually no way that the french can get ahold of her now if f she's, indeed, crossed the boarder from turkey into syria. >> colonel reese, is that what you expect? >> brianna, yes, i agree with bob. i mean, that's a possibility but you also have the khorasan group which is you know dependent on where they think the turks saw her on the last trip that she could cross into steer ya andyria and that's where the khorasan group is in the northwest corner. so any of the radical islamic groups would welcome her with open arms. >> obviously she appears to have been going for safe haven there and that makes sense. samuel we've been talking about some of these sleeper cells that have been activated. cells -- what kind of cells is the question. are we talking about sleeper cells from al qaeda or these sleeper cells from isis in france or both do you think? >> well actually, the pattern has been as following. it's replicated what happened in middle east throughout the

you will hear people saying we should have been in syria or involved in the syrian conflict or iraq sooner. or maybe a little more. a lot of we want more we want more. without having to define what that means because that's scary and doesn't get you any votes when it comes to the presidential campaign. >> it will be interesting to watch it unfold. because the lines are unclear and a little more nuanced. some on the republican side who aren't taking this traditional hawkish approach. you write about a coming potential robot army and the upcoming world cup of robotics. tell us about those things. >> yeah. this is true. so there's a group called darpa. if your audience doesn't know the defense advanced research projects agency. they're like the cool kids on the block. they come up with the fun stuff like internet and velcro and robot armies. there's been a lot of talk after the war years, about the technology that was created. you know, mainly drones and autonomy. it's the big thing, according to my editor patrick tucker who you have on very often, who will say, you know automatic systems tak

it is a real concern because all of those guys fighting in syria and fighting in iraq or in mali arek to europe. it is very easy because we have borders. we just need to have a car to enter europe. it is quite difficult to control all of that flow actually. it is a major concern. we know in france we have over 1,000 jihadists to have known to have been there. when they are back they want to fight against our system and our democracy and armed forces and our economy. >> in belgium, they were able to stop them and able to follow a few of these men when they came back from syria. they launched that raid last night. killed two suspects and detained others. how can you keep that pressure up? they caught one cell right there. do you have the capability to catch more? >> yes. we have the capability to catch more. i would say it is not confidentially in france. our police forces stop on a regular basis such attacks in france. people don't know about that but we have a very good intelligence and s.w.a.t. team works very well every day to stop those guys. >> we also learned overnight that 12 s

they don't need to travel to yemen or iraq or syria. they don't need to train there. they can do it on their own. that's difficult to prevent frankly and easy kind of attack to carry out. >> i must say, authorities in the united states have been doing a fine job, right, because when you compare what's happening in the united states to what's happening in europe it's a different thing, peter. >> the volume is very different. i don't dispute the idea that united states has a pretty good handle on this. they are dealing with much more problems. the estimates we've seen are about a dozen americans who fought with or tried to fight with isis or the al qaeda affiliate in syria. we're talking about 600 brits. 700,000 frenchmen that have gone to syria. the volume is really on a very different scale and as jim reported in paris, there's just not enough people to follow the volume in france. we don't have that problem here in the united states. we have a good handle on this. the fbi director says he's pretty confident that they know who has gone. you don't know what you don't k

we're not acting like the military does in afghanistan or iraq or syria.lly taking the fight to the suspects there. here in america now you have law enforcement with their hands tied behind their back waiting for the suspect to bring the fight to you. that is no way to run law enforcement. >> you know, i got to tell you you read the quran, holy war jihad, infidels et cetera, read the thing. >> don't you have the feeling when the embassies both were bombed, something was coming, something was happening. i got that feeling it's coming to new york too. i'm sorry to say it's going to be back in new york. but again they're recruiting through the internet, they're recruiting. and these two little punks there, i don't like to mention their names, these two brothers, ick and ike said they wanted to die in a blaze because they believe worst thing in the world fighting someone who wants to die. they wanted to die. >> radical islam is a culture of death. >> they came out blazing their guns at those hundreds of cops. and again they had 80,000 military cops that were t

me yesterday when i was in paris that actually some 30% of those they suspect have gone to syria or iraq or wherever are actually women. so that is very important when we see this woman who is on the lam there in paris. we have had very serious warnings from the british domestic intelligence m.i. 5. ahead of lot of leaders heading into paris on sunday for a mini summit also attorney general eric holder going. they are very very concerned here that there will be an attack of mass casualty. that's the words of the british mi-5 chief. that's a stark warning. he barely peaks, the first time in two years she's spoken and known of 20 plots over the last 14 months. they're very concerned about airlines, about transportation iconic landmarks and others targeted sometime now or in the future. >> how concerned are you from a security standpoint that other potential jihadists who may already be here and france has a huge number of suspects will see what has taken place over last two or three days and think, this was a success, from the terrorist's standpoint and it's something that could be relativ

going to war in iraq, whether or not celebrating sniper killing is something that we should be doing. >> the shadow of crisis has past and the state of the union is strong. >> many families feel they are working harder and harder with less and less to show for it. >> despite the clear differences that remain between our countries, the united states and

it is estimated that france has some 1,000 people who either went to fight in syria and iraq or attemptedd just by comparison in the u.s. the number much closer to 100, so an order of magnitude larger the problem here. >> yeah yeah. and on top, if i may complete this number it's growing nowadays. but day by day roughly. if you took it, like one week ago, one week ago the french government was talking about 400 and that was grossly underestimated. even 1,000 is still grossly underestimated. some research has been conducted by a man in the south of france and this man, which is a researcher on the problem, has concluded that we were closer to 2,000. >> incredible. >> and actually those people coming back to france are posing a huge threat. as i said battle hardened and motivated and ready to act. >> we saw the training on the way the attacks on the charlie hedbo offices were carried out. you saw the videos calmly handling their weapons. one question for you, if these calls have gone out to other terror cells, the french police were clearly aware of this terror cell before because they had f