the history of south carolina to apologize for the orangeburg massacre. i think there are thing we can do. it is premature to go in to an intense, exhaustive emotionally draining debate on what we might do there before we first have had time to mourn the passing of these families and the lives impacted. >> a south carolina heritage act protects the flag on the state house grounds. many people on social media are urging lawmakers to remove it. >>> we have been hearing about hate crimes as we report this story from charleston. coming up, a look at how this type of crime is legally defined in the united states. ♪ ♪ hp instant ink can save you up to 50% on ink delivered to your door so print all you want and never run out. plans start at $2.99 a month. right now, buy an eligible printer and get three months of free ink with hp instant ink.

king's assassination, from the orangeburg massacre. now we're having similar shared experiences in 2015. that's the discussion we have to have and it's larger than a singular word. >> charles, what do you think? >> i think it depends on context. the president is basically making the argument that racism does not have to be articulated even in the most blunt terms, including the use of the "n" word but rather it can be structural, it can be very persistent. and he's using in the a very instructive way. and i think that context always is important both because i know that you know whether or not you -- however you land on use of the "n" word itself it is very much the case that people use language in group that they take -- that was meant to demean them and they defame it by using it in repetition in group. so this happens -- women sometimes discuss things in ways that men should probably steer clear of. people in the lgbt community discuss issues using language

history of south carolina to apologize for the orangeburg massacre. i think there are things we can do but it's premature to go into an intention emotionally drank debate on what we might do there, before we first have time to mourn the passionng of these people. >>> this is a huge very tragic development. congressman, thank you. >> yes, sir, a pleasure. >>> coming up was it chance or did a gunman intentionally target one of the charleston's most historic african-american churches? plus lines of distinction cut shot. stay with us for more on the shooting victims, including a pastor who is being called the moral conscience of the south carolina state legislature. when you do business everywhere, the challenges of keeping everyone working together can quickly become the only thing you think about.

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amy: orangeburg is so important.en president obama was first running for president and he went bowling any got a gutter ball and everyone was making fun of him. he's an african-american man bowling is a significant because orangeburg was about a bowling alley, about integrating a bowling alley. and the police without warning opened fire on the students who were fighting for the integration of the alley. >> and no one was ever punished for the killing. including sellers, one of the organizers. he was working with sncc. i think he spent a year in jail. the flag was burned in part because the university was using the flag, the confederate flag at sporting events, a sea of confederate flags. we marched up to the presidents house demanded they quit doing that, and he said, ok. we felt empowered. we marched to the legislature across the street from the university and that is the first time i realized all 107 legislators were white and her head up in a black legislators in end of reconstruction in the 1890's. we went back t

and that's the orangeburg massacre.three students were actually shot by state highway patrolmen. >> and you yourself -- >> on the campus at south carolina state university. >> and you yourself were injured. >> yes i was injured. but i want to make that point. that we are still crying and screaming and carrying our idea to the cemetery. -- dead to the cemetery and we have to have something very specific done in south carolina. that begins with some kind of discussion and dialogue on race. we also must find a way in which we can have some kind of blue ribbon committee. there was never an investigation of what happened in orangeburg. and that we have to go back and start at that point. and find ways in which we can provide restitution in terms of healing, you have to heal from where you can actually target what has gone on. a lot of times people talk about it in terms of the flag. but since that time we've had the orangeburg massacre. 40 students were actually shot. three were killed one was a 16-year-old high school stude

she is from orangeburg which is not that far from where we stand right now. she also like reverend pinckney she has two girls, she has two daughters. i think what we saw from governor haley was not just the emotion of an elected official but the emotion of a mother. it is going to be very interesting to see how all of this plays out in the next few weeks and months with regards to the inevitable conversation that we always have when a shooting like this happens. we had the conversation after newtown. we have the conversation after a war. we'll probably have some verification of the conversation here. but this is south carolina. i can tell you as someone who grew up here people in this state, they love their guns. so i -- i do not suspect that this is going to lead to some sort of drastic change in gun control measures in the palmetto state. >> we had this conversation and a lot of people said then if a congressperson is almost assassinated at a super market on their corner when they go out to do a meet and greet and congress doesn't do anything that it's neve

have not gotten the report on today's visit but i understand she's going to be in charleston and orangeburg and from what i hear there's a lot of excitement about her visit. she did have a real good visit with the south carolina democratic women several weeks ago. and of course we are welcoming all candidates from both parties to the state. both of us democrats and republicans, are very proud of our preprimary status as one of the early tests. as i've said to people south carolina offers a very good laboratory for trying out messages and seeing how you relate to farmers. if you're over in the pee dee, to military families to educational families there in the midlands and down in the lowcountry. so we think this is a good laboratory for everybody to come and try out their themes. >> of course coming after iowa and new hampshire, this is the first diverse primary test. why haven't you endorsed her yet? >> well you know andrea i've always made it a promise ever since we got designated as a pre-primary state that it would not be good for the party, both nationally or for the state party, for me

most are in town to cover hillary clinton in orangeburg yesterday and a planned visit by jeb bush in charleston today has now been canceled. >> you noiknow martin luther king's mother was shot in a church while playing the organ. i remember my grand mom saying that is the purest form of hate on this rnlg. i remember that. i must have been 5, 6 years old. it ended up actually he was a disturbed young black man that came back from the war. but this is -- this appears to be the purest form of hate. all across the southeast, people gather in church onz a wednesday night whether it's wednesday night supper or bible study here. and it's just a fabric of these people's lives. >> this is as ugly as you can get. when people can't trust the refuge of a church to have this kind of violence. apparent litly the police chief saying it's a hate crime. we don't know if he's disturbed, whether he's alone or not. but the chilling fact that this would happen in a church nine people is just shocking. when i reached out and started getting calls, we have a chapter there and elder johnson who heads our ch