how do you describe viktor orban? >> donath: he's a genius in one hand. >> wertheim: genius?al strategist. >> wertheim: you take serious his power? >> donath: well, actually, you can feel it in your skin in everyday life in hungary, you feel that-his power. there is a higher power, a big brother, watching you everywhere, listening what you are saying. >> wertheim: orban's creeping control is presented as reasonable public policy. on the face of it, the family protection plan does make it easier for families to have kids. but it doesn't take much to shade into something darker. just listen to the speaker of hungary's parliament at a conference last september: "in europe those who propagate that having children is a private matter, are serving the culture of death," he says. countries with declining population, are becoming houses of coffins and not cradles. that sounds very dystopian, very dramatic. >> donath: well, there is-- you're right. and it's absolutely horrifying. and me, as a young woman who just got married and wants to start a family, i'm sorry, but i don't want to

last budapest in the leading 15 cities so it's not as if the hungary public is happy with this but orbáns been you know censoring the media undermining the possibility of the courts to check him so you know when the public is able to speak out it expresses its disapproval but nobody wants to see a dictatorship go to over over their head when that dictatorship has it always does serves the political interests of the sudan or so on what is your strategy to help promote human rights in countries like hungry when the majority of the population supports these measures how do you watch us. again i mean i think i have to differ with you that the majority of the population doesn't support a dictatorship you know the population supports the uncontroversial things social distancing strobl restrictions of course but a dictatorship no and so what we have been trying to do for example with the european union is to ask you know why does the european union continue to provide extraordinarily generous subsidies to this trojan horse within european democracy you know why for example is the european peopl

i mean contrary i mean that you know that's just the rhetoric he gives and what viktor orban the prime minister of hungary is done is used this coronavirus to create the european union's 1st dictatorship i'm he is the power now to go by decree to sideline parliament and there is no need for another election ever until parliament approves that and his party controls parliament this is a dictatorship pure and simple and so you know let's look how that dictatorship is doing i'm a human rights watch has been in the process of studying how gerry and hospitals and what we found is that while orbán takes the very generous stabilisation funds provided by the european union and uses them to build football stadiums to pay off his cronies i mean quite literally. the hospitals are disaster people need to bring their own toilet paper people are being it was thrown out on the street because they're not currently the coronavirus patient they are you know this illustrates what happens when you have an unaccountable government and that's what the door about is so if you're ok and. if you're right can w

viktor orban said he did not want this hanging over his head, so this recovery fund is not linked toes. and there is a concern that in the long run this is going to allow some of the members of the bloc who've been drifting away from some of the principles, drifting toward autocratic rule, prime minister orban would say we are doing what hungarians want. number two is the question of monitoring. one of the compromises that was made for the frugal states led by the netherlands was there should be tougher monitoring notjust by the european commission but by the member states. but what about italy? it is one of the most needy states and regarded as needing the most reform and root—and—branch, comprehensive reform. is that going be possible? or is it for years to come or be like the greek crisis? journalists who covered that know it never stopped being in the headlines. and then finally, and the european commission president recognised this, there is a smaller european budget post—brexit, and what about the projects which matter? projects which, again, in the climate crisis, health fund,

last budapest in the leading 15 cities so it's not as if the hungary public is happy with this but orbánas been you know censoring the media undermining the possibility of the courts to check him so you know when the public is able to speak out it expresses its disapproval but nobody wants to see a dictatorship go to over over their head when that dictatorship as it always does serves the political interests of the sudan or so on what is your strategy to help promote human rights in countries like hungry when the majority of the population supports these measures how do you adjust and you know i guess i mean i think i have to differ with you that the majority of the population doesn't support a dictatorship you know the population supports the uncontroversial things social distancing strobl restrictions of course but a dictatorship no and so what we have been trying to do for example with the european union is to ask you know why does the european union continue to provide extraordinarily generous subsidies to this trojan horse within european democracy you know why for example is the eu

have a point i mean contrary i mean that you know that's just the rhetoric he gives and what viktor orban the prime minister of hungary is done is used this coronavirus to create the european union's 1st dictatorship i'm he is the power now to go by decree to sideline parliament and there is no need for another election ever until parliament approves that and his party controls parliament this is a dictatorship pure and simple and so you know let's look how that dictatorship is doing i'm a human rights watch has been in the process of studying how gary and hospitals and what we found is that while orbán takes a very generous stabilisation funds provided by the european union and uses them to build football stadiums to pay off his cronies i mean quite literally. the hospitals are disaster people need to bring their own toilet paper people are being it was thrown out on the street because they're not currently the coronavirus patient they are you know this illustrates what happens when you have an unaccountable government and that's what that door about is so if you're in stadiums. if you'r

watch has been in the process of studying how kerry and hospitals and what we found is that while orbántakes a very generous stabilisation funds provided by the european union and uses them to build football stadiums to pay off his cronies i mean quite literally. the hospitals are disaster people need to bring their own toilet paper people are being it was thrown out on the street because they're not currently the coronavirus patient they are you know this illustrates what happens when you have an unaccountable government and that's what that door about is so if you're ok games. if you're right can where is the domestic outcry because the public overwhelmingly supports these emergency measures. well you know what emergency measures another thing over the public overwhelmingly supports social distancing restrictions on travel i mean every democracy in the world is doing that of course that's appropriate what they don't support is power grabs and censorship and self-serving stops of the sort of the orbit of the most recent indication we have is when there were you know municipal they oral

told us the hostility to those people in hungary goes all the way up to the prime minister viktor orban very high level politicians from from the governing party and actually the house speaker as you pointed out are making homophobic interests whole big comments basically in the media and what drives it is that you know you have to ask the government but my suspicion is that it's about creating a new enemy creating a scapegoat in hungary at which also the tories the attention. from other issues which are highly problematic for for this government but the current hunger in government. is very well known as a government which creates enemies migrants civil society and now if you get if you people are transferred coal in hungary just to blame them and direct the national way for all my actual government measures are undamaged program direct so for amnesty international in budapest. let's bring you up to date now with some of the developments in the corona virus pandemic. the united states has now well surpassed the mark of 3000000 confirmed cases the u.s. has set 5 new daily case records i

of the european ambitions so this might have been a hint towards home garion prime minister viktor orban who can be considered an opponent of macross and multiple ways let's listen to what he said earlier we are all aware how serious the situation it's. dramatic anyway economically pandemic is one thing but we are we can go about the consequences of that already what only. it sure is don't you think so so the old aussie's rather a rather pessimistic but that's the mistake is not a strong enough word to express how you see the future you seem to be dangers are just approaching to be european economy. because the consequence of the 1st wave of the pandemic and secondly because of the 2nd wave which we all expect from hole of we are aware that we have to make a deal so we are negotiating under the pressure that a deal is a must. angries viktor orban painting a certainly dramatic picture there he says we have to make a deal but he's actually one of the leaders making an agreement harder to reach isn't me. yeah there so one thing we call he didn't mention one of the major sticking points toda

its editor in chief earlier this week this dismissal has raised concerns that prime minister viktor orban nationalist government is intensifying its effort to muzzle critical voices. a sea of solidarity lighting up central budapest thousands of hungary and standing up for press freedom which many fear is disappearing under the rule of right wing prime minister viktor orban the latest victim hungary's motoric new site in next you seen as one of the country's last independent media that's made it a frequent target of the prime minister who once called it a fake news factory but its independence has come under threat after an organ ally bought control of the site sales. the final straw came a few days ago when the site's editor and she was fired prompting more than 80 staff to resign on friday. to battle for said. our editor in chief was fired this week and while i don't want to speak on behalf of all of us for me this was the red lines i cannot work there anymore. from the point that put out the phone. shortly after sounds of protesters flooded the streets when we want to free a showed real

have to make a deal so we are negotiating under the pressure that a deal is a must angries viktor orban painting a certainly dramatic picture there he says we have to make a deal but he's actually one of the leaders making an agreement harder to reach isn't me. yeah there so one thing we call he didn't mention one of the major sticking points today and that is the question if the money that will be handed out will be attached to a sort of rule floor mechanism and sangria in poland strongly oppose this idea of both has been facing accusations of violating the rule floor they say please don't meddle with our national matters but the thing is that most other member states absolutely want that rule of my alarm mechanism in there and the most vocal war among them is the neverland matter. and our bond actually got really personal today he accused her of wanting to punish his country. the stakes here are obviously very high especially for the countries in dire need of this aid money but what about i'm glad merkel and her council presidency does germany have a special responsibility here. i thi

of freedom of expression in recipient countries but orban has faced a stiff opposition from the e.u. states who are fully intent on linking the 2. we will not put file use up for negotiation there is no version of cut price european standards including the rule of law among all the division and squabbling over values and vast sums of money italy's prime minister made a call for clarity and unity. no doubt but it is we may not lose track of our goals we have to rebuild europe make it more competitive and more resistant to crises what can we do. a lot of the netherlands one southern european countries to make structural reforms before agreeing to the recovery fund actually last month i see myself as fighting for the needs of citizens and taxpayers it's vital that you are mergers stronger out of this crisis i'm not going to let myself be diverted by all the conflict going on here after. details have emerged of how the deadlock could be broken. the e.u. council has proposed a just in the recovery package to 390000000000 euros in grants and 360000000000 in loans spending plans would need

one popular columnist who reminded the crowd of the 2800 quote in defense of free speech from mr orban himself me sean and i would never have the adult city personas those who don't agree with us and yet. across central europe it's not only hungry that seen the steady decline of independent news outlets and to steer toward autocratic rule a major sticking point in the debate over the e.u. is pandemic recovery fund last week was whether poland and hungary should be penalized financially for their behavior but in the end the money came through and viktor orban claimed what he called a huge victory many say the latest developments at home look like yet another win for the hungary and leader curry leg al-jazeera. countries across asia are enjoying some of the heaviest monsoon rainfall in years in bangladesh flood waters breach sandbag walls built to protect villages one 3rd of the country is under water weeks of torrential rain of also led to flooding and landslides in india and the power of . a court in zimbabwe has denied bail to a prominent journalist and an opposition leader who's been

standards when it comes to the rule of law viktor orban has been under an awful lot of scrutiny in recent years accused of rolling back reforms of introducing undemocratic legislation in the country viktor orban has basically said we're well if you include this mechanism in any agreement we'll we'll we'll lower veto it so we may well find the dispute the dispute between router and victor or deregulating as a separate side problem the entire agreement but as the austrian chancellor suggested he is at least hopeful way to see that if vicky pryce now chief economic advisor at the center for economic business and research she says these negotiations cover a huge sum of money. overall we're talking about a figure of 1.85 trillion which will need to be raise some of it quite soon the recovery fund itself within that will be raised over the next 4 years in the capital markets the rest which is the budget is being paid for by a mix of being 80 payments that individual countries have to then transfer to the center and also import you to use and which are quite importance and there's those also go

independent media outlet but it has also been a target of this man hungary's prime minister viktor orban who once branded a fake news factory one of his allies recently took charge of its sales are perhaps a sign of things to come and critics say the government is trying to bring as many independent media outlets under its control. we are of the editorial staff which today probably made one of the biggest sacrifices and risks to shine a spotlight on what's happening on how a newsroom can be destroyed how even the strongest and most read news portals can be ruined in hungary. one popular columnist reminded the crowds of the 2800 quote in defense of free speech from mr orban himself me sure. we would never have the adult city persona. those who don't agree with us here. across central europe it's not only hungry that seen the steady decline of independent news outlets and steer toward autocratic rule a major sticking point in the debate over the e.u. spend demick recovery fund last week was where the poland and hungary should be penalized financially for their behavior but in the end the m

one popular columnist who reminded the crowds of the 2800 quote in defense of free speech from mr orban himself me sure. we would never have the adult city personas those who don't agree with us and yet. across central europe it's not only hungry that seen the steady decline of independent news outlets and to steer toward autocratic rule a major sticking point in the debate over the e.u. spend demick recovery fund last week was where the poland and hungary should be penalized financially for their behavior but in the end the money came through and viktor orban claimed what he called a huge victory many say the latest developments at home look like yet another win for the hungary and leda car leg al-jazeera the 1st hurrican of the season is bearing down on the southern coast of texas has strengthened to a category one hurricane and is expected to make landfall in a few hours there corpus christi and hearkened douglas is heading for hawaii the category 4 storm is expected to reach the u.s. islands in the pacific on sunday and if you want to just expected to weaken by then social distancin

one popular columnist who reminded the crowd of the 2800 quote in defense of free speech from mr orban himself nishant we would never have the adults or 2 personas those who don't agree with us and yet. across central europe it's not only hungry that seen the steady decline of independent news outlets and to steer toward autocratic rule a major sticking point in the debate over the e.u.'s pandemic recovery fund last week was whether poland and hungary should be penalized financially for their behavior but in the end the money came through and viktor orban claimed what he called a huge victory many say the latest developments at home look like yet another win for the hungary and leader curry leg al-jazeera zimbabwe's government has denied accusations of persecuting its critics ahead of planned protests over the economy and corruption a court has denied bail for journalist hope poaching and opposition leader jacob may they were arrested and charged with inciting public violence probably tasa has more from her either. a day after the united nations urges the barbi government not to use th

one popular columnist who reminded the crowds of the 2800 quote in defense of free speech from mr orban himself me show him we would never have the a dust heap of silence those who don't agree with us and yet. across central europe it's not only hungry that seen the steady decline of independent news outlets and steer toward autocratic rule a major sticking point in the debate over the e.u.'s pandemic recovery fund last week was whether poland and hungary should be penalized financially for their behavior but in the end the money came through and viktor orban claimed what he called a huge victory many say the latest developments at home look like yet another win for the hungary and leda car leg al-jazeera. the top u.s. health agency has issued guidelines calling for the full reopening of schools in september even as corona virus infections rise in many areas the centers for disease control insists it is safe for children to return to class as it's unlikely they will contract will transmit the virus reynolds has more. as covert 19 continues to surge in parts of the u.s. the debate over h

viktor orban said he did not want this hanging over his head so this recovery fund is not linked to theates and there is a concern that in the long run this is going to allow some of the members of the bloc who have been drifting away from some of the principles, drifting toward autocratic rule, although supporters would say we are doing what hungarians want. number two is the question of monitoring. one of the compromises that was made for the frugal states led by the netherlands was there should be tougher monitoring notjust by the european commission but by the member states. what about italy? it is one of the most needy states and regarded as needing the most reform and root and branch comprehensive reform. is that going be possible? or is it for years to come like the greek crisis? journalists who covered that know it never stopped being in the headlines. finally, the european commission president recognised this, there is a smaller european budget after brexit and what about the projects which matter? projects which, again, in the climate crisis, health fund, some of the projects

during the pandemic was undemocratic but it's a politically popular move for prime minister viktor orban. the american red cross founder topic that fits both his opinion and the view of most trying gary ans that's how he can keep his voter base together even when we're going through an economic crisis. right wing premia isn't commenting nor is the minister responsible for the law but a year ago a speaker of the hungary and parliament defendant the ruling party. notes were accused of being populists and to european islamic and homophobic just because we're here to our culture and traditions. the young actress or delo nobody was the 1st trans woman on the cover of the hungary in edition of elle magazine she no longer feel safe in hungary where she was picked on threatened and assaulted she fled to berlin. i think it's horrible because. it's now already if you want to change your name and. and identity because i don't have rights there transition homosexuality are not widely discussed in hungary many think they should stay private transgender people find the policies of especially troubling

thousands of hunger areas have marched to prime minister viktor orban ons office in support of media freedom public anger is rising after the editor in chief of the country's most popular independent news site was sacked savile was fired after warning that the index websites independence was at risk of political pressure thousands of journalists from the clicked have now resigned in protest website has long been a target of orbán who once called it a fake news factory one of his allies recently took control of the site's advertising sales. iran's foreign minister has accused the us of risking disaster after an iranian passenger plane had to suddenly change course over syria to avoid an american fighter jets several passengers were injured during the incident the pilot had abruptly changed altitudes the u.s. says its jet kept a safe distance said i heard the reports from beirut's where the plane eventually landed safely. a state of panic among passengers on board flight 1152 the air bus was flying from iran's capital tehran to beirut in lebanon on thursday night when the iranians say

years accused of rolling back reforms of introducing undemocratic legislation in the country viktor orbanhas basically said we're well if you include this mechanism in any agreement we'll we'll we'll lower veto it so we may well find the dispute the dispute between router and victor or the railing as a separate side problem the entire agreement but as the austrian chancellor suggested he is at least hopeful we'll wait to see neve thank you very much neal barker our correspondent there in london china's xinjiang region has declared quote a wartime state after a small increase in cases there $28.00 new infections have been reported since friday the city of a routine suspended large gatherings of people mass mass weenies are being carried out china is facing international scrutiny over its treatment of ethnic minorities in jan including ethnic we. muslims. on kong has reported a record daily high of more than 100 new virus infections the territories leader carry lambs as the bios is now spreading out of control from monday all non-essential public employees will work from home masks will be

viktor orban the prime minister of hungary ruto wanting a mechanism ink. clued it in any agreement that would force countries to prove exactly whether or not they were upholding e.u. standards when it comes to the rule of law viktor or ban has been under an awful lot of scrutiny in recent years accused of rolling back reforms of introducing undemocratic legislation in the country victor or banners basically said well if you include this mechanism in any agreement we'll will willow veto it so we may well find the dispute the dispute between russia and victor all about the railing as a separate side problem the entire agreement but as the austrian chancellor suggested he is at least hopeful way to see. on to other news in west african mediators in mali have outlined recommendations to ease the tensions between opposing parties the delegation from eco us the regional bloc issued a statement after days of discussions with the governing party and the opposition did have a proposed plan but that was rejected by the opposition alliance led by the cleric would bec

one popular columnist who reminded the crowds of the 2800 quote in defense of free speech from mr orban himself me sure. we would never have the adult city personas those who don't agree with us and yet. across central europe it's not only hungry that seen the steady decline of independent news outlets and a steer toward autocratic rule a major sticking point in the debate over the e.u.'s pandemic recovery fund last week was whether poland and hungary should be penalized financially for their behavior but in the end the money came through and viktor orban claimed what he called a huge victory many say the latest developments at home look like yet another win for the hungary and leda car leg al-jazeera gay boy is an analyst to hungary and think tank the center for political analysis he says the victory or bans battles with the media a typical of his brand of comedy of politics. he likes clashes he likes battles he will use these combat rhetoric very very often he likes to present himself as the savior hungary from other organized organizations that write to undermine not just his rule bu

independent media outlet but it has also been a target of this man hungary's prime minister viktor orban who once branded a fake news factory one of his allies recently took charge of its sales are perhaps a sign of things to come. critics say the government is trying to bring as many independent media outlets under its control. we are of the editorial staff which today probably made one of the biggest sacrifices and risks to shine a spotlight on what's happening on how a newsroom can be destroyed how even the strongest and most read news portals can be ruined in hungary. one popular columnist reminded the crowd of the 2800 quote in defense of free speech from mr orban himself me sure. we would never have the adults. silence those who don't agree with us and yet. across central europe it's not only hungry that seen the steady decline of independent news outlets and steer toward autocratic rule a major sticking point in the debate over the e.u. spend demick recovery fund last week was where the poland and hungary should be penalized financially for their behavior but in the end the money

struggle on their own and it is interesting to point out david that hungary and prime minister viktor orban bat's by poland he's threatened to veto the package if the deal means withholding funds from countries that don't meet certain democratic principles could all been derailed this deal there's no question it has to be decided unanimously any one leader can stop it so in fact if you listen to portuguese from minister in tony acosta he made clear that this rule of law provision is not going to fly even though he supports it in fact this is an old debate that goes back to the core budget is the town about coronavirus where you have some new leader countries very frustrated that budget money goes to countries that they perceive as undermining democratic principles but in fact because the way that you treaty is written that this must be decided union you know mostly there is no way to get a provision like that through if in fact hungary or poland object to it so they may find some compromise language but in the end that's a question to be settled somewhere else where they revisit some questi

that had was that the homeland movement which is more sort of the far right and actually it kind of orbánthe east on the immigration and on can minority party will have lots of power but they don't on the other hand there is well i mean the social democrats are in a in a problem they didn't expect to lose so significantly and their leader has yesterday or the announced that he might actually step down the new forces in creation politics involved and you'll green the left coalition which i scored very well and they actually might be a serious challenge to social democrats from the left ok professor thank you very much that was day on you'll get your political science professor at the university it's a great thank you. italy has allowed a rescue ship that was stuck in limbo for days to dock at a sicilian port there the $180.00 migrants on board will be transferred to a quarantine ship there are scenes of you bill a ship all the ocean biking when the news was enough just. conditions got desperate thanks to you permission if you don't think it is up to crew members were forced to declare an e

one popular columnist who reminded the crowd of the 2800 quote in defense of free speech from mr orban himself me sure. we would never have the adult city personas those who don't agree with us and yet. across central europe it's not only hungry that seen the steady decline of independent news outlets and to steer toward autocratic rule a major sticking point in the debate over the e.u.'s pandemic recovery fund last week was whether poland and hungary should be penalized financially for their behavior but in the end the money came through and viktor orban claimed what he called a huge victory many say the latest developments at home look like yet another win for the hungary and leader curry leg al-jazeera. lawyers an analyst at hunger in think tank the center for political analysis joins me now from edmonton in canada could have you with us on the program so really it's quite interesting that a website can be so influential. yes but that is the case because most of the most of the hunger in us papers are already either close to the government or not really widely read and the online me

ambitions of european values so maybe this was a little him $2.00 words hung garion prime minister viktor orban who can be considered an opponent of micros in many ways and let's listen to what he said earlier today we are all aware whole scene of the situation it's. it's dramatic anyway economically to ponder because one thing but we are we can go about the consequences of that. it's there is don't you think so so the moral is rather are rather our best to stick but the mystic is not a strong enough word to express how we see the future so obviously the big dangers are just approaching the european economy our 1st because the consequence of the 1st wave of the pandemic and secondly because of the 2nd wave which we all expect to come. are we are aware 'd that we have to make a deal so we are negotiating under the pressure that a deal is a must hungary's victor all band there outlining the high stakes of this summit but also for merkel and the e.u. german presidency. there well there's one thing we're back i didn't manson and that is one of the major sticking points today the question if the mon

for press freedom which many fear is disappearing under the rule of right wing prime minister viktor orban the latest victim hungary's most new site. seen as one of the country's last independent media that's made it a frequent target of the prime minister who once called it a fake news factory but its independence has come under threat after an ally bought control of the site sales. the final straw came a few days ago when the site's editor in chief was fired prompting more than 80 staff to resign on friday. that the 1st said. our editor in chief was fired at this story and while i don't want to speak on behalf of all of us for me this was the red lines i cannot work that anymore. from the point that the. shortly after south of protesters flooded the streets when they want to frame a show real news and it's getting more and more difficult almost impossible to get that in hungry now we don't know what's happening around us because the state media isn't telling the truth. and i'm fully. and honestly regardless of the website the reason why it came to demonstrate is that another independent

sort of made it all the matter of principle and just hear what the hunger in prime minister viktor orban had to say on that beef. not because of me but because of the dog gone because he initiated from i think you took. which is not good quality you know off you know understanding what you've done is a brick it's because of them not because of the i don't like balloon game but the doctor is the real responsible man for whom i speak. insults are flying as we see president the french president he is so fed up with all this he already was leaving several times and so we seem to have finally ended kindergarten level at the summit and it's all like a big dysfunctional and very unhappy family at their worst we're talking a lot about money of course here but there's an underlying discussion about european values going on solidarity of rule of law are we seeing the union losing common ground here it looks like it at the moment i mean normally if things are normal in better times then the indian they've always been able to pull together but at the moment the signs see the signs seen seem a bit om

and 20 was actually a marked by a moving towards the center center rather than following a kind of orbánis all it takes such as we see for example by if you go to oregon in under a little score is a force that you want to see more conservative more empty minority more on the migrant he questions that is your gender equality and has he had some quite. outrageous outrageous statements to this effect now. can choose to have other smaller part this in government than to form a more centrist coalition but he will certainly remain the prime minister of great shock. that was daniel which speaking to d.w. a short while ago. let's now take a look at some of the other stories making news around the world. spain's a marina district along the northwest coast will go back under a 5 day lockdown after a spike in corona virus infections around $70000.00 people will be affected local authorities have traced the outbreak to reopened pubs. in the capital daly has inaugurated 810000 bed hospital for coronavirus patients it's said to be one of the largest such facilities in the world that's as india reporte

center rather than following a kind of orb on the stick politics such as we see for example by a big orbánin hungary beautiful score is a force that's the blunt to see more conservative coalition more empty minority more on the migrant he questions the issue of gender equality and has a few and some quite on the are outrageous outrageous statements to this effect now under a blanket which construes to have other smaller part this in government and to form a more centrist coalition but he will certainly remain the prime minister of great shops. all right what about voter turnout in the time of coronavirus did the pandemic discouraged rationed from going to the polls. well to a degree i think it was due to 40 percent smaller than in the elections 2016 but you know just bear in mind that in the european elections the turnout was only a 30 percent now it was just a little bit short of 50 percent in the presidential elections earlier this year it was 56 percent so gracious not really well known for 13 i would but it was decent are and what can we expect to see next we can expect the formation o