approval, british prime minister tony blair laid out more details of the international case against osama binen. >>> at least three of these hijackers have already been positively identified, and noticed of bin laden. >>> the bombs of the" u "uss co allegedly planned by one of the hijackers. >>> september 11th rallied the country, but it also introduced to america, looks at neighbors diffentl pay be attention to things they didn't pay attention to before and then you had the anthrax attack. >> a businessman in florida, in the hospital. anthrax confirmed by the centers for disease control. the hospital reports it will most likely kill him. >> we weren't sure who had mailed that letter. and, again, on the response side, it didn't make a difference who mail it. it was anthrax. >> the nion's capital get it's air force back, reopenedanthrax >> the nation's capitol got their airport back. it opened under super sight security. >> a flight bound from paris to miami. they stopped what seems to have been a passenger's attempt to ignite an explosive. >> u.s. intelligence officials telling the associated

approval, british prime minister tony blair laid out more details of the international case against osama binen. >>> at least three of these hijackers have already been positively identified, and noticed of bin laden. >>> the bombs of the" u "uss co allegedly planned by one of the hijackers. >>> september 11th rallied the country, but it also introduced to america, looks at neighbors differently. pay be attention to things they didn't pay attention to before and then you had the anthrax attack. >> a businessman in florida, in the hospital. anthrax confirmed by the centers for disease control. the hospital reports it will most likely kill him. >> we weren't sure who had mailed that letter. and, again, on the response side, it didn't make a difference who mailed it. it was anthrax. >> the nation's capital get it's air force back, reopenedanthrax >> the nation's capitol got their airport back. it opened under super sight security. >> a flight bound from paris to miami. they stopped what seems to have been a passenger's attempt to ignite an explosive. >> u.s. intelligence officials telling the as

his closest partner was osama bin laden. >> actually i have two questions.one, if i recall correctly, there was one leader in afghanistan and his name was matsuda or something, that a suicide bomber, if the stinger had not been introduced, how much longer do you think this war would've drunk on? my second question is where was china during this time? how did they feel? why did they feel that way? >> reverse order. the chinese were a critical player. the chinese not only provided a lot of the armaments the mujahideen use. because after all china produced soviet style weapons. so chinese made ak-47's look a lot like a soviet made ak-47. zia was determined during the war to take the war inside of kabul. the cia could not find a rocket propelled weapon that could fire into kabul from insurgent and drove territory. zia went to the chinese communist to be designed specifically a rocket propelled weapon that could be fired the 20 are so clogged that were needed. zbigniew zabriskie deserves credit for bringing the chinese into this effort although they might've come

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c-span: and where did osama bin laden fit into that? >> guest: he's supposedly the 17th son. he's the only son of one of the mothers, so there was a syrian mother, and bin laden has two full sisters, but the family's pretty a large one, i mean, you know, 50 -- 50 siblings of one stripe or another. and now, of course, there's another generation, so those kids have all had kids. so, you know, somebody was saying to me that there are like 200-plus first cousins who now make up the bin laden family. c-span: and osama bin laden himself, you talk about in the book, had i think got a fourth wife after you saw him or was that... >> guest: yeah. he got a fourth wife in early 2000. c-span: how do they -- when you have four wives, how do you deal with them? >> guest: well, the koran says sort of you know, you don't -- you're only supposed to take as many wives as you can actually support, and four is the maximum. so, you know, if you -- i mean, obviously, bin laden's got the resources to support four wives. but, you know, who those wives are exactly -- the most recent one is a yemeni, bu

these are folks that go way back with osama bin laden.have family ties with him, and they trained in the camps in the '90s before 9/11. so this is kind of al qaeda seen ro -- senior leadership in syria. >> apparently the reason why the pentagon and the white house says they struck is because they've gone from the plotting and research phase into the operational phase. what i don't get though, is if we did last night eliminated them or is the operational phase still in tact. where are they? >> one of the reasons that we went when we did is because we had updated location information for the leadership of the khorasan group. so we knew they were moving towards executing a plot. can you know that, but if you don't have good information about where they are, there's no point launching strikes. number two, just because you put them under pressure or take out some of the leadership, you're not really getting at the cancer at the heart of this, and these are the bomb makers who've been trained to use the nonmetallic bombs such as the underwear b

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appeal of osama bin laden, and struggled to establish legitimacy. >> osama bin laden had a charisma. he had been in afghanistan, had given up wealth, which appealed to many people. >> enter the islamic state group. al qaeda cut ties with the former atilliate in february -- affiliate in february, after becoming vount, ignoring calls to expand and return to iraq. is, which is concludes known as i.s.i.l. threatens to outpace al qaeda as the dominant voice of influence. it is important to note our view that there's no group as successful and effective as i.s.i.l. is, at using propaganda and social media. they have out paced other extremist groups, how they used the internet to spread a message. >> the is has been successful when it comes to recruiting. with more than 100 americans and 1,000 europeans joining the group. it gained the attention of world leaders. >> the goal has to be to dismantle them. >> al qaeda's interest in india, especially kashmir, is nothing new. the fact na ayman al zawahiri announced the move has been wondering if it's not about expansion but an attempt to grab he

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he posted images of osama bin laden and even a beheading on his facebook page.e had just lost his job at a food processing plan and attack the first person he saw there. only the david mattingly is "outfront" in owing. >> reporter: to the people who worship, he was just a little more than a face in the crowd. he never spoke out, never raising suspicion and never attracting the attention of the mosque leaders. >> what did you know about this man? >> to be quite honest with you, not much. when i saw his picture, he didn't look familiar although he could blend in quite well with the community here. >> reporter: before anyone noticed nolen at the mosque, he is already left seemingly ominous comments on facebook including pictures of osama bin laden, an apparently beheading and smoke pouring out of the world trade central. within weeks of his arrival, he posted this. shari'a law is coming. >> what does that mean? >> i have no idea. like you, i look at his facebook page. and i've seen a lot of weird stuff. >> if you had seen that before, what would you have done in. >

we have eliminated osama bin laden.s our purpose. >> and we bring back our studio audience of experts. sher ri, you're in politics, romney right, bush right? >> say that out loud in a lot of crowds, but yeah, they were right. >> give leslie marshal a heart attack. >> yeah. what's interesting when you hear this language is the obama administration really likes speaking like they've been victorious. they don't like getting there. they don't like taking the strong steps you need to take to be victorious. they won't call a war a war. right now he won't call it a war because he wants to give cover by the way to congressional democrats who want to be both for the war and against it. so that's why i think he's sort of tap dancing around the terminology with regard to war. >> brian, i know you've been very anxious to jump in this. >> i don't know where to begin. i have like ten things. >> start at the very beginning. good place to start. >> first of all start with obama's definition of victory, degrade and destroy isis. very cl

even killing osama bin laden himself. however, we have not focused on the ideology. we have not focused on bin ladenism. we have not focused about the factors that make these groups, recruits and continue to reinvent themselves. as long as we don't target the ideology, we don't target bin ladenism, this war is going to go for a long period of time. isis, al qaeda, they are all the same. they are the followers of osama bin laden. isis and al qaeda differs in two things. the leadership. it's an ego thing and tactics. isis believes they need to hold land and establish their state. al qaeda believe it's better to hit and run. isis believe it's good to do beheading and scare the minute. and why do this if a bullet can do the job? these are the differences between two different entities that both claim they are the righteous followers and inheritance of osama bin laden. >> you will of your years working in this, writing the book, please come back. let's continue these conversations. i really appreciate it. as we talk about the threat from terrorists in iraq and syria forcin

when osama bin laden was killed, president obama claimed osama bin laden was dead and al qaeda was on the run. in 2012 he once again campaigned on ending war bringing all of our troops home from afghanistan and iraq. many americans agreed with him. many were war-weary. but now it appears those political decision advisory come back to haunt this president. would isis have been allowed to grow into 30,000 strong if we would have bombed syria last year? would two americans have been beheaded? what about if some troops had stayed behind in iraq? i bet nobody would have ever dreamed they would be calling this president a war president. he was a man elected to end wars, but now he has a chance to actually lead a war, and many will watch and wait to see just how effectively. coming up on this show, president obama taking a bit of a swipe at israel. he said a lot in this speech today. of course, that was at the u.n. suggesting some israelis may be ready to throw in the towel in the quest for peace. we're going to ask the governor of indiana, mike pence, what he thinks about those comments whe

. >> cora d es un grupo cuyos lÍderes son veteranos convino cools de osama osama bin laden. >> el lÍderal qaeda en irÁn, peleo en avenida ganas tan y kech na. >> fue un hombre de confianza de osama osama bin laden y uno de los poco que sabÍan los ataques de 911 antes que ocurrieran. >> nos tomamos muy en serio, tan en serio que esta semana aviones de * cambie comba ombate de est bombardearon su cuarteles. >> los servicios de inteligencia llevan tiempo preocupados por este grupo, pero han detectado intentos de crear explosivos que se pueden subir aviones sin ser detectados. >> de hecho en este verano a los aeropuertos exigÍan a los pasajeros a encender los aparatos electrÓnicos que tenÍan en su bolsa de mano, aÚn no se conoce cuanto daÑo y cuÁnto pudieron haber interrumpido las operaciones de cora d. >> se habla que muchos lÍderes importantes podrÍan estar muertos pareciera que el grupo estÁ mas dÉbil, sino destrozado. >> el bombardeo contra cora d ocurriÓ ahora, la pregunta es si actuaron a tiempo. >> no pierde den de vista que entre la gente que han podido reclutar hay personas con pas

he goes down to mexico, comes across a border wearing an osama bin laden mask, and he's not stopped. how crazy can you be? >> that was james o'keefe. he did a little piece that is very interesting to see what he found. he could walk across the border, and a little theater going on there, but michelle your thoughave to worry about this. if our border is that porous, and isis -- we know they have the capability to get to mexico, hondur honduras, central america. what's there to stop them? >> remember, isis is making a million a day, at least a million in office revenues, so they have the money to do that. mexican car tells, all they care about is money so the possibility that isis will give money to car tells to help them is very likely. cia estimates now now that isis has about 20 to 31,000 members. the members continue to -- every time they have a bit of success. all you need is one of these people to cross the border to inflict harm, and we have an open border to do that. >> jim, you have to admit the border is so porous, they told al baghdadi said in new york when we left them go i

if you really want -- if you could put a man on the moon, find osama bin laden in the middle of nowhere, you can seal the border. there is no doubt, in my mind, that you can't. yet, he won't do it. he doesn't do it because of one thing and one thing only. he's looking for extra votes. >> we know, after the election, he's going to do something about this. talk is that he's going to give millions to illegals. it's practically written and the speech is practically done. so, what to do? >> the problem is, once the illegal immigrants are in the country, we lose track of them. there was a recent report, 15 days after they entered -- that's not -- that's the argument for it, right, that you would be able to keep track of the families. when you release the immigrants, the illegals into society and say come back in 15 days and report to the immigration officer, 70%, about 3/4 of them you never see them again. >> is that where -- adam, you have a big heart. no one doubts that. unfortunately, we have to pay for it. do you worry about that? that all of a sudden, with the best of intentions, people

al-qaeda is on the heels and osama bin laden is dead. nal-qaeda is on the run and osama bin laden is dead. al-qaeda is on the run. they ran to syria. >> basically what happened. senior leaders of al-qaeda decided it was a launching pad and they relocated the tellent over the last two years. they re-established the bases elsewhere. >> and how come they only made it public now with the air strikes and surprised everybody. >> you don't want to let everyone know what you are doing. and tell them who they are following. and the leader is going on and off more than a decade. and probably had afore knowledge of the 9/11 attacks. they are experienced. none of them has a twitter account with 20,000 followers. >> that's right. and he's active on it in a direct basis. >> it comes down to intelience and their whereabouts. there were press reports that came out. and saying that the khorasan group is something that we need to target. >> was it effective. i think they were partually effective. >> part ideally effective and the terror threat continues.

osama bin baden, three things he wants the u.s. to do, stop supporting local dictators get our troops out of there country's, stop interfering in their affairs. in some way it was the criminal biological response as of large criminal act. >> how but how do they apprehend been london -- osama bin baden? >> did in afghanistan they're hoping to bankrupt by borrowing money from the chinese to attack afghanistan. i would say if if if osama bin baden was responsible responsible, he would be tracked down by mercenaries then he should have been tried for the crime. >> the russians have 15,000 nuclear warheads many other countries do if we abolish the state to reach abolish our own nuclear arsenal? >> i suggest that. >> no nuclear bombs the charities have 300 we would be open isn't that black male? >> i will say something that may shock you but at that point there is no more reason to attack -- attack the geographical area of the united states or canada or kansas. >> because we're just as powerful orÑkn >> in 30 days half of them would have

officials say the group headed by an osama bin laden operative poses a threat to the u.s. and europe. >> we believe the khorasan group was nearing the execution phase of the attack in europe or the homeland. we know that the khorasan has attempted to recruit we werers to serve -- westerners to serve as operate ist. >> terrorist blow back could turn to saudi arabia. an i.s.i.l. fighter threatening the saudis. robert mcfadden joins us now. he worked on the u.s.s. "coal" bombing, and is an expert on transnational movement and is the senior vice president at the sufan group, providing strategic intelligence services. pleasure to have you with us. you heard that the group may have been planning an american state, and was working with a bomb maker that tried to do the failed underwear bomb, and are talking about different possible bombs to avoid aeroplane detection, including clothes, nonmetallic things that may not be detected by current security. how big a threat to do you think the group was or is. >> it's the culmination of information getting into the public realm. we were

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reported yesterday about the khorason group and its reported leader, who officials say was close to osama bin laden. we're told the group was developing cutting edge weapons of terror, including nonmetallic explosives that they would then pack into toothpaste tubes so they could get through airport security. the president mentioned nothing about this group when making his case for strikes against syria. instead the white house said it would build an international coalition to take on the islamic state. and it apparently did exactly that. according to u.s. officials, saudi arabia, jordan, bahrain, the united arab emirates, all dropped bombs on syria overnight. qatar helped with support flights but did not launch weapons. we have a base there, airplanes took off from there. it was key. notice that no nato nations took part. we're a member of nato. no nato nations, though. president obama today said the coalition proves that isis is a grave threat around the globe. >> america is proud to stand shoulder to shoulder with these nations on behalf of our common security. the strength of this coalitio

he said in effect al qaeda died with osama bin laden. he said that al qaeda may pose a threat down the road, but this is a threat that's going away. the president made the same argument. all of the administration and the campaign made that allegation from may of 2012 until november of 2012. they didn't let reality intrude on their argument. this is what the dia had been saying repeatedly for years. and the final point, remember, the document cast that we ex2r5k9ed from the bin laden raid which was may of 2011, more than a million documents, the public has seen 17 of those documents. of the million documents, we have exploited, we fully exploited and analyzed 10% of that carb. if we want to know what al qaeda is up to, we simple all to make it a top priority to look at those documents. >> do you think it's kparptmentalizing the threat takes away the overall umbrella that this is radical islamic extremists trying to kill westerners? >> the president's been quite open about the fact that he's finished fighting wars, he said in the state of

because ofs you, osama bin laden is no more.ecause of you, the core al-qaeda leadership in afghanistan and pakistan has been decimated. because of you, afghans are reclaiming their communities. afghan forces have taken the lead for their country's security. in three months because of you, our combat mission will be over in afghanistan and our war in afghanistan will come to a responsible end. that's because of you. you and our counter terrorism professions have saved terrorist attacks and made our homeland more secure. but we always have known the end of the war in afghanistan doesn't mean the end of threats to america. here you have known this as well as anybody. you played a central role in our combat and counter terrorism operations. you make sure our troops and pilots get what they need in order to get the job done. you train forces around the world so countries can take responsibility for their own security. the sixth air mobility wing is continuously deployed, supporting our humanitarian and combat operations around the wo

it's leader was a close confidante of osama bin laden. things got hot in afghanistan he fled to iran, was there for quite a while supposedly under house arrest. then about a year ago he showed up over in syria, as you indicated, and with this new group. the thing that's particularly worrisome about them is their doctrine. they want to bring the fight to the infidel, the crusaders to the west right now, whereas isis wants to set up its own state, have people come there and attack saudi arabia, iran, rome and then finally fight the crusaders. in terms of immediate threats i would say khorasan and one last point, they have probably the most talented bomb maker. also sent his own brother with a device hidden in his body who blew himself up in the presence of the saudi intelligence chief, wounded that man,=',ñ killed himself, these are serious players. >> ruthless people for sure. this group is based in syria so it brings me to this. what military action should the u.s. take in syria? are allies necessary? and what's assad's play in all of th

he was the closest associate of osama bin laden to be tried in the u.s.ce the september 11th attacks. he denied working with the group, and argued that his features were intended to encourage dialogue. >>> the israeli military says it has shotted -- shot down a syrian fighter jet over the occupied occupied go land heights. there have been scuffles in the west bank after the shooting of two men by the israeli army. the army says the men were killed during a gun battle after troops surrounding a house. direct talks started again in cairo, despite the shooting. we have more now. >> reporter: in the early hours of tuesday morning, israeli forces surrounded a property here. a fire fight ensued and the two key suspects in the killings of those three young israeli settlers, were killed in that fire fight. now the suspects funerals were held shortly after their bodies were returned to their families. thousands took to the streets to take part in those funeral processions. the situation here of course, very intense indeed after those killings, calling on their lea

led an international coalition of sources in iraq and afghanistan and head the sources that killed osama bin laden. but first new details tonight, the white house said for the first time u.s. air strikes will target isis leader shirp and how they will train troops. and today jim sciutto has more for us. and how specific are they? >> at this point they have not targeted leadership, but now they say it is not defensive, it is offensive. and they will target command and control and leaders and that is something we've seen as the u.s. have done against al qaeda affiliates in somalia and other places with success. >> and you have information in your reporting about the huge increase we saw, at first they said 10,000 isis fighters and now the cia is saying up to 35,500. what do you know about the search? >> this is a product of the isis success. it has swept across syria and into iraq, it has apracted more -- attracted more fighters from overseas and they take over territory to con script local fighters, some of them forcibly and some of them voluntarily, and it shoez you as the u.s. committed to

. >> he has interviewed osama bin lad and he's maintained his contact. that's the first report that he may have been responsible. obvious lit was a very sophisticated organization, carefully coordinated. louie free, the fbi director as he left office said his continuing great concern with a number of terrorist cells that exist in america, not just in some shadowy enclave of afghanistan, they've taken route in this country because it's so easy to get here. >> let's talk a little bit about osama bin laden because he was associated with it. why don't we talk about him and what he has done here in the united states, tom, to give the people a little bit of back ground. >> he's from saudi arabia originally, wealthy, very sophisticated in terms of using the new technology. we believe he's being harbored in afghanistan. no one knows for sure. a number of people have been successful in getting to him. they believe he's behind a number of bombings in kenya as well. he is obviously a zealot of great dark passion and mostly a the united states. >> brian remains on t

laden he and many people went out and sort of celebrated the end of osama bin laden's signalling the coming end of al qaeda. john brennan then top white house advisor put a date on it. one thing is important to remember as we talk about what the president said tonight, talk about the threat from isis is that it's part of a much broader threat. we can't forget the rest of al qaeda still exists. there is an affiliate in syria. that threatened to attack the u.s. homeland. there are affiliates in yemen, somalia, throughout north africa that present a threat. it has to be a part of a global campaign i worry the president is trying to take that on by itself. >> george? >> well, we're not perfectly safe. and we should not want to be. or try to be because that is incompatible with a free and open society. still, if someone had said, anyone here had said we're going to go from september 11th, 2001, to 2014 with no serious terrorist attack from overseas we have been astonished and pleased. somewhere, somewhere, anonymous americans are doing something right. . >> i argue we're safer than we

and we know from a letter written by osama bin laden himself that these strikes had effect in 2010, a letter seized from the compound where he was killed. and translated by the u.s. military, bin laden wrote that al qaeda fighters were, quote, frankly exhausted from the enemy's air bombardments. but most believe that defeating isis will require boots on the ground. if those aren't american boots, who in the region is willing to take up the fight? we'll talk about it with nbc's richard engel reporting from northern iraq, next. if energy cd come from anything? or if power could go anywhere? or if light could seek out the dark? what would happen if that happens? anything. no question about that. but your erectile dysfunction - that could be a question of blood flow. cialis tadalafil for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right. you can be more confident in your ability to be ready. and the same cialis is the only daily ed tablet approved to treat ed and symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently or urgently. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medici

it's the best kept plan since our killing of osama bin laden. my question tonight, will this alliance sell in the arab world? will it convince arabs, that it's them, not just the united states going after isis, the terrorists? will this new alliance sell with the anti-war forces in america? are people like me going to buy it? we'll get to these questions and some others like the danger isis and this al qaeda group khorasan pose to us here in the u.s. also why it's so easy for someone dangerous to go, as you see now, charging into the white house itself. we're going to have a great "hardball" round table for the second half of the show. jonathan capehart, michelle bernard all joining us. the pentagon said today last night's air strikes were very successful. among the targets, isis training camps, head quarters and command and control facilities. the u.s. military released some remarkable video showing several strikes against isis, like this strike on a vehicle staging area. another video shows a strike by a u.s. aircraft to a storage facility use

door pickets not only photos of the twin towers burning but also photos of terrorists including osama bin laden. there's a graphic photo of a beheading with a quote that seeps to justify beheading against, quote, nonbelievers. middle east expert walleed fairs believe there's more behind the attack than nolan's firing. >> first, there is the environment of this change of name. i mean, beheading of a woman. loss of a job. it's today imbalanced. >> the islamic society of oklahoma condemns nolan. saying, he does not act in accordance with the islamic law and regulations. islam teaches us to be a people of peace and calm. we are against any acts of violence, oppression or brutality. we are against this very disturbing and vicious act of cowardi cowardice. he is as far away from islam as one can be from the religion. nolan does have a criminal pass. he served time in prison and is on probation for assault and battery against that police officer. as well as cocaine possession. nolan is in stable condition and so is his stabbing victim. no word on charges yet that he will be facing. uma. >> all r

. >> coming up on the news hour, an adviser to osama bin laden is sentenced to life in prison.nd the european rider cup team, drafting a secret weapon, find out how this man is expecting too help them retain their trophy, details later in sports. urged delegates at the u.n. climate change summit not to put the issue on the wac burner. the climate summit is in new york is meant to lay the ground work for a global agreement on reducing carbon emission. but the leaders of two of the biggest polluters china and india are not attending. our environment editor explains. every day that dawnings the drying force of climate change gathering pace, and we are responsible, those are the facts. such is the unanimous vote at the climate science. and the effects they say can be seen all around us. >> my god. but there's been next to no progress on international efforts to slow the process down. the last time world leaders met was five years ago, at the exhaustive near fiasco of copenhagen. >> i now declare the meeting closed. >> the conference ending with no binding agreement, and since then,

think about osama bin laden. that's perhaps the greatest example.unched 9/11 in order to draw the united states into a war in afghanistan. he watched. he participated in the conflict when the soviet union was pulled into a war in afghanistan. and it was pivotal to collapsing the soviet empire. he said in repeated statements that the goal of 9/11 in part was to draw the united states into a land war in afghanistan which he thought would be the end of the american empire. it proved not to be the end of the united states, but it was, in fact, very costly. you don't want to allow the terrorists by doing something heinous to pull you into a conflict where they choose at a timing of their own choosing. but now you have a situation with isis on the move, with the state where you can't ignore it. you can't close the door and forget about this because things have advanced so far that it's not going to resolve itself without any kind of intervention. so you have to split the difference. you can't get sucked in, but you can't do nothing. and i think this probl

of course the best known is osama bin laden.no alert coming from his organization. >> because of my beat counterterrorism, intelligence having covered al qaeda for, you know, years before that, the first thing i thought of that day was this has the hallmark of al qaeda, and it has the hallmark of osama bin laden. >> as far as they know as of this morning as of this minute, he is in afghanistan. >> so what i was doing was calling intelligence sources and particularly at the cia saying who other than bin laden? and i was being told only bin laden could have this off. >> they are assuming and obviously informed the president that this is a terror attack. >> ever since i started as a reporter, in the late '60s, early '70s i've known that you have to separate the personal from the professional. but i'm married to alan greenspan, who at the time was chairman of the board of the federal reserve. so my concern immediately is they're attacking wall street. is this symbolic? will they also attack individuals? then i realized my husband wa

laden circle. >> right, and they describe the people in the group as having known osama bin ladenlong time who were in the pakistan/afghan border region, who were seeking safe haven. but my interpretation of that is the drone program was very effective. and syria looked like a lot better place for these guys, with perhaps a lot better outcome in terms of their ability to plot and reach out to the west. >> i know they told you also, this is just the opening salvo against the isis. they did say the coalition was getting bigger, did they say who is joined? >> yes, they said the netherlands and belgium, which is an interesting addition, because belgium has had problems and the netherlands have had similar problems. so you would understand why they want to be part of the coalition. >> interesting. an exclusive interview coming up with cnn's christiane amanpour, talking about the strikes today and the ones in recent weeks in iraq have actually achieved. >> what we've done is stop the onslaught, that is what we were able to achieve with air power. they were moving towards erbil and baghd

i upload this pic because america -- he uploaded pictures of osama bin laden though he did not commentoday police say he beheaded one woman and stabbed another while reportedly shouting islamic statements. megyn. >> trace, thank you. after all that police are so far referring to this as a case of workplace violence. joining me now chad sweet, a former homeland security and cia official and co-founder of the chertoff group. and fbi assistant director in charge and former senior advisor to the government for -- jim, really? workplace violence after that? >> no way, megyn. you know, call it murder, but stop this workplace violence crap. that's really outrageous. >> why would they even come out with that initially? why categorize it at this point? >> i can't blame the local police. that's really not their business. but just call it murder. call it bloody murder. >> chad, is there some reason for doing that? i understand it happened at the workplace, but all this other stuff happened too and now we're all very well aware of it. >> megyn, we saw this in the ft. hood shooting that this admini

we took out osama bin laden. much of al qaeda's leadership in afghanistan and pakistan, and leaders of al qaeda affiliates in yemen and somalia. the core al qaeda leadership in afghanistan and pakistan has been decimated. >> what do you think? >> well, i don't know exactly why that khorasan was chosen by u.s. government agencies. it doesn't appear they call themselves that, at least in syria. they're al qaeda. they should probably be called al qaeda. these are individuals who have been involved in al qaeda operations from south asia, from iran and other locations and are plotting attacks with the coordination of -- back in pakistan against targets in the united states and europe. but let's be frank about this. this is al qaeda. this goes back to the core in pakistan, the very group that we have already said and administration officials have said we have defeated. we clearly have not. >> they're now saying -- the fbi director today was saying we killed some senior folks in those strikes. but the vast majority it l

.: inside the secret world of osama bin laden," you say on page 31, 'further clouding our understanding of bin laden is the fact that a vast amount has been written about him, a good deal of it rubbish.' >> guest: well, i think you know when rubbish is rubbish, how you call a spade a spade a spade. and, you know, i mean, there have been a lot of reports that bin laden was womanizing and sort of drinking when he was a teen-ager in beirut. it's very hard to disprove to you know, it's it's it's very hard to disprove something that didn't happen, but, you know, as far as i can tell, he was a sort of very religious teen-ager. there were reports that somehow, bin laden was funded or trained by the cia. these are all sorts of commonsense tests, apart from anything else. you know, if you were the cia case officer who ran bin laden, most of those people would be of retirement age now you've got a $20 million book contract right there. i mean, you know, when conspiracies happen and with, you know, iran-contra, these kinds of conspiracies, people talk about them. so the notion that somehow the cia

laden he and many people went out and sort of celebrated the end of osama bin laden's signalling the coming end of al qaeda. john brennan then top white house advisor put a date on it. one thing is important to remember as we talk about what the president said tonight, talk about the threat from isis is that it's part of a much broader threat. we can't forget the rest of al qaeda still exists. there is an affiliate in syria. that threatened to attack the u.s. homeland. there are affiliates in yemen, somalia, throughout north africa that present a threat. it has to be a part of a global campaign i worry the president is trying to take that on by itself. >> george? >> well, we're not perfectly safe. and we should not want to be. or try to be because that is incompatible with a free and open society. still, if someone had said, anyone here had said we're going to go from september 11th, 2001, to 2014 with no serious terrorist attack from overseas we have been astonished and pleased. somewhere, somewhere, anonymous americans are doing something right. . >> i argue we're safer than we

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