now he has invited osce monitors to the border. since the invitation of the monitors, two weeks have passed. discussions not needed by anyone when u.k. and together with ukrainian diplomats decided not to take the situation. afterwards the decision was taken. and now we are expecting monitors in donetsk in the nearest days. i have asked not to obstruct them. i hope, i hope this will waive doubts that these check points controlled by the ukrainians are used to bring weapons and so these two weeks have been lost because of the political games. i'm glad that security council of the u.n. has shown responsibility with regard to the tragedy with the malaysian flight. there was a call to carry out independent investigation. this was discussed in, during telephone conversation of president putin with other leaders. such investigation was to start as soon as possible under u.n. we are worried that some partners are trying to move the practical work in this investigation into this separate two side negotiations with ukraine. of course ukrain

i think we saw the value of the osce directly when russia invaded crimea and the osce mission that was there, our -- was there, were our eyes and ears on the ground and helped restore some semblance of order in ukraine, as it now is moving forward. but in our work in baku, we were representing the united states on some extremely important issues and i want to talk about some of those issues. issues, and my colleagues that are on the floor are going to talk about issues that they championed. but i must tell you, russia sent a very strong delegation to baku to represent their country. and on behalf of the u.s. delegation, i brought forward a resolution in regards to violations. it was titled, "clear, gross and uncorrected violations of helsinki principles by the russian federation." now, this resolution became the principal debate of the 23rd parliamentary assembly. we held a plenary debate. we don't normally do that. we normally debate issues in different committees. but the entire assembly debated the issue concerning russia's activities within ukraine because of the seriousness of thi

he joins us now from ukraine with more on the osce observers. news this hour that they may get some access to the crash site today. what do we know? >> reporter: well, certainly within the past hour we've heard directly from the osce on the ground in donetsk. we have a team moving with them now from donetsk toward the crash site. it will be 39 experts from the netherlands and from australia to try to gain access to that crash site of mh17 to try and get some more of the human remains that are still there on the ground. there have dozens of bodies that have not been repatriated, also personal belongings and clues that will lead to what happened on that flight. so that convoy from donetsk is under way. but we've also learned that military operations are taking part on the part of the ukrainian government in areas around the crash site as well has been confirmed to us near small towns close by to the crash site in the middle of rebel-controlled areas the there are battles under way now between rebels and government forces, that despite assurances f

but as cnn obviously and osce cannot confirm that element of it. >> the 14-member osce team that is thereain will remain in place until specialists arrive. the question is, when will that be and from that point where will the bodies go so thean

does the osce have any doubt it has been shot down by a pro-russian group of?>> the osce doesn't make judgment about the cause of what they're seeing at the crash site. they do report on what they're seeing at the crash site. they report on the molestation of the crash site, et cetera. all of the evidence that we have points to the fact that the plane was shot down. we believe by an sa-11 missile, a buk missile launched from separatist controlled territory. so you know, the narrative that we're seeing coming out from that separatist commander is consistent with -- is possible with the evidence that we've seen so far. >> and the american ambassador to ukraine, jeffrey. iatt, has said on wednesday russia has not cut back on its flow of weapons to the ukraine, is that what the osce believes too? >> because of the separatist fighting it is very difficult to get monitors safely, these are unarmed monitors that the osce has safely into the borders where they would see these flows. regrettably, we know that russia has been passing not only sophisticated weaponry acros

from the osce in ukraine. kiev get the latest from where we are joined by a correspondent. roman, there is clearly an escalating war of words over who was to blame over this tragedy. what is the latest you can tell us? >> the latest is not an official information but something i have seen on social networks. putin ofressure on russia to move in with troops, large troops into ukraine. they think now or never. it is like russia should respond to those sanctions imposed by western countries and accusations that russia could be behind that plane being shot down. russia must now react and react with force, military force in ukraine. such voices very, very, very dangerous. kievr as kiev and moscow, is now asking western countries, to his knowledge, the self proclaimed donetsk and luhansk as terrorist regions and is accusing moscow of shooting down the plane. moscow said it is nonsense. >> it does not look like there's going to be any chance of a cease-fire in eastern ukraine that the international community is deman

we know for sure that the osce representatives were able to visit the site as well as the members of the ukrainian investigative commission, but the ukrainians complain that they were not able to take important pieces with them, that they were working under the eyes of the separatists. we know that osce observers were able to return safely to do next -- to donetsk, but what they say, we do not know yet. >> what level is the fighting at right now? >> well, we have contradictory reports coming. this morning, we heard that there were some people shot dead in the city of luhansk, civilians, more than 20. it was reported by the ukrainian government. during the day, we heard from different sources that the fighting subsided today. it was much less than in the previous days. some sources believe that this could be a turning point with russia slowly pulling its forces out of ukraine. though sources who say so believe that russia has a major role to play in this conflict, and russia is now thinking about pulling out. this is what they say. >> all eyes on russia right now. thanks so very much.

that is what we're getting from osce. we'll get that interview as soon as we can. >>> another piece of russia related news. british government announced a public inquiry into the death of a public spy. there's been mystery surrounding the death of the office area since he died after drinking tea laced with radioactive. the timing of this announcement and tensions ongoing over ukraine. >>> another top story. the developments with israel and palestinians. israel has continued the bombardment of the gaza strip hitting 70 targets overnight including mosques and a sports stadium. palestinian rocket fire into israel continues overnight. the american secretary of state in egypt met with the foreign minister, u.n. secretary general called for an immediate cease fire. let's go to cairo. the understands from hamas for cease fire including the release of prisoners which seemed very unlikely. where are we, any hope of a break through or not? >> so far nothing about a break through. lots of talks are going in cairo now. we have the eg

. >>> international investigators from the osce say they're on the move again today outside the city of donetsk, heading for the crash site of malaysia airlines flight 17. heavy fighting in eastern ukraine has kept them from the wreckage for the past four days. the dutch prime minister and the osce are both calling for a ceasefire in the area so investigators can begin their work. cnn international correspondent nick paton walsh and his crew took another route to the crash site and found it littered with debris and the final possessions of lost lives. >> the road isn't easy. past shelling, eerie separatist checkpoints, but where it leads is harder still. in beauty surely nothing could spoil lies a horror still unresolved. 12 days since mh17 was blown out of the sky. it remains here, a monument to cruelty. to how 298 souls, some shipped in parts away on a separatist train, have yet to find complete rest. questions left. what or who else did they love? what did they feel in their last moments? the silence in these field is that of a tomb, like sorrow and loss have isolated it from the

it may be -- >> the team from osce, so not accident investigators. they haven't made it there, it appears. >> when the actual investigators get there, that will be the proof of whether there is a hostile reception or not. and i am not quite sure how the structure -- the investigation is going to be structured. it would normally be the state of where the accident happened, but they can call in expertise from any country they wish. and i believe there is a party from britain, air accident investigation team, arriving there today. but quite what nail be able to do when they get there and whether they'll be able to do it safely, because obviously you don't want to put aviation experts into an unstable area where their own lives are at risk. >> i wanted to tell our viewers what they're seeing there is the team from osce, its spokesperson told us yesterday they did not have full access to the site, but the osce is not in the business of investigating plane crashes. >> no. one can only hope investigators might be received differently, but who knows until it

the team for organization security cooperation in europe, osce, tried to visit the crash for just over an hour on friday, but they say they were met with hostility from the separatists there and not given full access. american officials say they believe the plane was brought down by a missile, possibly fired by pro-russian rebels, most likely with backing from russia. all this is still being established. meanwhile, a team of special investigators from malaysia has arrived in ukraine's capital, kiev, hoping to begin the process of finding out what happened to their commercial airliner. now, a freelance journalist spent today traveling to the crash site in eastern ukraine and joining me now live on the phone. what do we know first of all, and this has been one of the big questions, the crash site not fully accessible to crash investigators from the osce? who has the black boxes, the data recorders, do we know? >> i don't think we know yet who has the black boxes. i can tell you yesterday when we were at the site, and we're heading there again this morning, you know, journalists, locals,

but as cnn obviously and osce cannot confirm that element of it. >> the 14-member osce team that is there says the train will remain in place until specialists arrive. the question is, when will that be and from that point where will the bodies go so they can be delivered back to their families. we're told that even though these carts are refrigerated, there is a smell that is a bit overwhelming. >> it has been three days. >> right. and they have been saying -- all the experts have been saying we need to get to the bodies so we can make our assessments and get them home. and that apparently is the stage at which we are in, hopefully for that to happen. >> malaysia airlines officials are tweeting that it will retire, they will retire the mh-17 flight number as of july 25th. here it is on your screen, out of respect for the crew and passengers of all of those who were killed when that plane was shot down, the groups of coal miners we can also report this morning, have searjoined in the search effort. government search and rescue crews have recovered these 196 bodies at the crash site. now b

the osc has not yet said parts have been tampered with. if that emerges, it's certain willy a very serious allegation which will influence the investigation and the answers that everyone is waiting for. >> the pro russian rebels, have they withdrawn from the crash site or are they still visible there? >> they are very much visible. the road that leads up to the crash site, it's important to remember it's a very, very large area. you can drive around 15 to 20 minutes here. there's several dozen fields. there are pro russian rebels guarding the site along the road. the osc and international investigators are now getting the access to it. they are looking at the fields. that seems to have begun. >> also, just on the hand over last night of the data recorders, the black boxes, is that because they have just been discovered or have those black boxes been in the hands of the rebels several days? >> we know for sure black boxes have been in the hands of rebels several days under a self-declared prime minister of the donetsk people's republic. it

aviation specialists from malaysian airlines were monitors from the osce. they did not speak directly to the press, but via the osce, we got some declarations. they noted in particular the way that the wings of the plane had melted, saying that there must have been a very, very high temperature explosion, further cooperating the idea that it was a missile that hit the plane. the osce monitors themselves have been extraordinarily .iplomatic throughout the whole time, they have been careful not to openly criticize the separatists giving them access in a limited way. today, now that the bodies have been safely taken away and now that the black boxes have been they feelr, it seems they can speak more freely. some people have suggested that significant parts of the wreckage may have been removed from the site. >> you are in a city that only some deadlyw violence. can you tell us more about what the situation is like there today? >> today, there was not any fighting, but all over, there's fighting going on in different locations every day, particularly today. luh

i think that it is clear in respect to the osc cases. they were done prior to this in a different way. the quality of those reviews improved tremendously. i think everybody agreed to that. today, i think we realize that we need a different function within the organization. that is this kind of quality control and audit function that is been proposed. i can tell you today that the omi calls are going to the oig. they are not taking new cases in this interim. issues are now being handled by a team of people at department level that report directly to the secretary. i think the organization is trying desperately to address the issues that are there and with respect to doing these investigations. the secretary has made it very clear that not only will we expedite those investigations but we will pick disciplinary action or hold people accountable. employees will be added to create this audit function? planson't believe the have not been entirely formulated. adam have an answer that question. -- i don't have an answer to that question. releas

contact group will be formed by saturday, made up of representatives from russia, ukraine, and the osce. a key element of the agreement is the monitoring of borders. >> it is important to strengthen border to stop weapons and separatist fighters from coming into ukraine from russia. >> russia has agreed to post osce monitors on its borders only as long as a cease-fire is in place. the russian foreign minister also said his government will try and negotiate the release of hostages in a further effort to reduce tensions. but for the moment, the violence in eastern ukraine continues. after the last these fire was largely ignored, kiev pass that up its battle with the rebels. >> this is all about ending the fighting. let's bring in our political correspondent. this is looking very much like a breakthrough. can it defuse the crisis? >> this joint declaration will still have to prove what it's worth on the ground, but no doubt this was a very vital step. what we've seen today as major players in this conflict getting together and calling for a multilateral cease-fire as opposed to the unilate

the team from the organization for security and cooperation in europe, osce, visited the crash site for just over an hour friday. >> they say they were met with hostility from rebels and were not given full access to the site. one of the team members spoke with cnn's erin burnett. >> once we arrived there, things escalated very rapidly, not for the better. we were met, if you want to put it that way, by quite inhospitable armed individuals. they severely limited the amount of area where we could observe. they -- they were aggressive towards us. and also the amount of time that we spent on the ground was only 75 minutes. they were very weary of us going close to any fuselage. the bodies are laid out there. they don't appear to have been touched since they fell from the sky. and also very importantly, of course, to everybody involved is that there's very little security around the perimeter of the site. so, really anyone can go on the site and tamper with the fuselage or whatever. so, it's a very complicated, difficult and dangerous environment. >> and did you see any of that, michael? an

they're called the osce. we're going to see if they're given access to the crash site and what has been done and what hasn't. when we arrived, the area is raw. bodies still everywhere, exposed to onlookers, dogs and the hot sun. personal effects, the last traces, memories of loved ones, picked through. intact valuables seem to be missing. over my shoulder, you see a major portion of the crash site that monitors have not been able to inspect but has been very well picked over. there's something else i want to show you that's pretty interesting here. they've drawn a line. for the boundary, right? but look, there's so much outside of it that they haven't taken into account. just goes to the need of having the right people here and they're not here yet. and the militants in charge of the dignity of the victims seem more interested in a show of force than in showing respect. we're just going to hang back a little bit here because the security situation is very tenuous. the invitation is only as good as the mood of

the international monitors from the osce are making daily visits out there.overnment, aviation experts visiting, even though the separatists are at war with the ukrainian government and don't recognize it. we know that there have been some forensic experts, members of the malaysia delegation but the fact is, is that you have the giant tail of this doomed plane just laying in a farm field and other scraps of this plane just kind of daunting the surrounding farm fields. if there is any consolation, this corner of ukraine is beautiful. it is pastoral. we do not see what we heard is the world's biggest criminal investigation crime scene. >> richard quest, i'm not even talking about investigating the crime scene, i'm not even talking about looking through wreckage, i'm talking about 98 souls, 100 souls, as many as somebody making an effort to bring them home. >> it's inconceivable. it's inconceivable but i'm guessing and ivan can confirm the issue is safety. the issue is a war that continues in the region. >> but ivan, you're saying, i mean, osc monitors can go to

osce areerstand the the only ones who have been able to be on the ground. what is it like, bring us into the minds of those investigators. 75 minutes surrounded by 900 armed soldiers. certainly, there must've been a lot of apprehension and fear. first, you're going into a crash of -- thereas a lot are still a lot of human remains. .t is horrific to see and smell a lot of personal effects laying around. even if there weren't armed guards walking them through the site, it would be a terrifying experience. i am sure that their ability to take in what they're seeing is probably hampered somewhat by being so closely guarded. >> final question, what needs to happen now if we are to salvage the crash site and preserve it a much as we can and get really transparent investigation moving forward from this moment? >> i think they need to form a group of international experts and formjoin together a team that can go into the crash site and get agreement that they can go in and do the rigorous investigation that is normally done in this kind of accident. without that, i

we know the international monitors from the osce are making daily visits out there.ernment, aviation experts able to go visit, even though the separatists are at war with the ukrainian government and don't recognize it. we know that there have been some forensics experts, members of the malaysian delegation that have gone out to the crash site but the fact is, is that you have the giant tail of this doomed plane just laying in a farm field and other scraps of this plane just kind of daunting the surrounding farm fields. if there is any perhaps consolation, this corner of ukraine is a beautiful area. they are rolling fields. it is nice and there perhaps may be some peace in that, but, no, i do not see what we had heard was supposed to be the world's biggest criminal investigation crime scene. >> and richard quest, i'm not etch talking about investigating the crime scene, i'm not even talking about looking through wreckage, i'm talking about 98 souls, 100 souls, as many as somebody making an effort to bring them home. >> it's inconceivable what ivan is telling us tonig

the osce special monitoring minute should -- monitoring mission can play a key role in safeguarding this access. early indications of the malaysian airlines flight was brought down by a surface-to-air missile. aircraft the first that has been brought down in this area. armed separatists claimed overnsibility and gloated the shooting down of a transport aircraft with the loss of 49 on board. armed separatists shot down a transport aircraft with a surface-to-air missile. on july 16, ukrainian jets were shot down in circumstances that have yet to be fully clarified. ask searching questions about why we are confronting this tragic situation. claimedofficials have that armed separatists in eastern ukraine represented a spontaneous local insurgency. leadingthe three figures of the so-called people's republic are russian citizens and have come from outside of ukraine. weapons and the just tickle support has been systematically provided to armed separatist groups by russia, pats, 15 to to 100 25 battle tanks, not to mention rocket launchers and other armored vehicles. urges russiangdom to reflec

i'm joined now by america's ambassador to the osce and he joins me live from vienna.ssador, it's great to have you on again. i imagine our viewers share this, the amazement, the shock, that two weeks after this plane went down, you, your organization, other teams, particularly the dutch who lost so many citizens in this crash, till cannot get to this site. wa what's going to change that? >> obviously for the first several days the osce special monitoring mission was able to get to the site even though they were greeted by a drunken hoard of separatists the first time but increditedmentally day by day access improved. they were able to get there with some first remains recovery experts last week. for the last few days, they haven't been able to get to the site itself, partly because the route into the site, they've been concerned about the safety on that route. they obviously are working out of donetsk and that's at some distance from the site itself. my understanding is that they've been working very closely with the government of ukraine to try to identify a safe rou

michael bociurkiw, a spokesman for the osce joins me today., this is the third day in a row where you haven't been able to get out to the site. what happened today? >> what happened today, anderson, is there were a lot of talks going on in kiev and here and donetsk. and we, the osce mission took the mission to do a reconnaissance trip. it was only two vehicles today. of course, we were all heavily kited up. and we made it as far as we made the other day, two-thirds to the crash site. once we got there, it was clear that the bombing, the shelling was extremely heavy. in fact, at one point we had to take cover next to our vehicles because it was so bad. but what this indicates, once again, is that one or both sides are not honoring their commitment sllg. seriously. today was meant to be a day of tranquility, where the osce, the special monitoring commission, as well as up to 50, 60 experts from the netherlands and from australia would have gone out to the crash site and done the crucial work that we have talked about before. >> and again, it bea

the osce hasly visited the site. they say they expect a malaysian team on sunday.t is still unknown how many bodies have yet to be recovered. >> the bodies are exposed to direct sunlight and have started to decompose. we must collect everything as quickly as possible and take them away. they are becoming a danger to the local population. >> the search area now encompasses 50 square kilometers, and it includes several villages. despite the demands to not tamper with the site, the barricades are not secure. it is not clear how many people have entered or left the site. all the while, heavily armed ce monitors the os under watch. they say they will only guarantee the safety of international investigators if kiev agreed to a cease-fire. what a truce is nowhere in sight. images like these continue to emerge from ukraine's east. there is also confusion pertaining to the two flight recorders of the boeing. this shows emergency workers finding what could be one of the black boxes. others say they have the other one. where there recorders are now remains unclear. >> our cor

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these osce monitors do not have the expertise. right now there is no international expert on the ground at the crash site. >> what did the u.n. security council say about an investigation today? >> reporter: yes, that was a very interesting session in new york. we heard from all the international players. we heard from the dutch, we heard notably from the ukrainians and russian who is were pointing fingers at each other vehemently saying this is all your fault. when it came to the russian ambassador, that is what he had to say. >> today kiev declared a full closure of the air space in conducting a so-called anti-terrorist operation. why couldn't this have been done earlier, not waiting for hundreds of victims to have occurred. we place all blame on kiev powers in government and call for the ukraine side to take decisive measures to stem such incident in the future. >> reporter: now they also said all along the russians have said that it is the condition, the atmosphere, the war basically being fought that they blame on the governm

i had filed the complaint with osc. while they were processing my complaints i took this very seriously to see whether they had compensable mental disorders related to the service. what i found here, in many instances, the veteran was not even heard properly. i had doubts whether the prior evaluation report was the same veteran or not. this was a serious concern. i actually started looking at their ids to make sure this was not some other person. the problem here was that the veteran did not have enough time to explain their situation. it was a hurried conveyer belt like system where i was specifically told that i was sending too much time with the veteran. that i should hurry-up and see the veteran and check a few boxes in my evaluation because it's meant for some rater somewhere to rate the disability. that's not how i saw my job. that's not the right way to do it. three things need to be accomplished in these evaluations because these are disability evaluations. you have to make sure that the veteran is heard properl

do you believe there is a physical threat against the osce workers there at the site?thing, but you can hear me, michael? >> yes, i can hear you. >> okay. one more time do you believe there's a physical threat against the osce workers there after this report that the rebels are running out of patience? >> absolutely not. we've had very, very good access for the past seven days. the first day was a bit tricky. with the amount of time spent is there in terms of geography, we've been able to cover in terms of the amount of debris, we've been actually able to look at closely. and i must say the malaysian delegation was with us the longest. and they collected a lot of it. and they not only had aaccess but they also felt safe and protected. that gives us a sense of where we are at this moment. >> michael, you reported earlier that passports and things started appearing at the scene and those were thinking not there the first time you walked through. we're going to get back to you -- okay, i'm sorry, we're going to stay with us. we thought maybe we saw john kerry coming in. m

ambassador to osce. they are here supposed to be monitoring the violence but they have been pushed into overseeing what's happening here and being the eyes on the world. can you hear us? >> i can. >> sorry for the delay. let's try to make the conversation work. anyway, most importantly thank you for joining us. may i ask, i know you were in vienna. as the u.s. representative to osce, has the u.s. instructed you to come here so that there can be a presence on the ground for the united states? >> well, the osce is an international organization of 57 participating states. i have been to ukraine several times in recent months, most recently for the inauguration of president poroshenko but people on the ground as part of the special monitoring commission come from over 22 countries and represent all 57 participating states in the osce, including the russian federation, ukraine, united states and many of our other partners. >> so you feel you have the right people on the ground for what they do. now, let peopl

the osce visited the crash site for over an hour on friday but said it wasn't easy. they were met with hostility from the rebels and not given full access. >> it basically looks like one of the biggest -- or the biggest crime scene in the world right now guard with guys in uniform with heavy fire power who are inhospitable. there didn't seem to be anyone in control for example. one of our top priorities was to find out what happened to the black boxes. no one was there to answer those questions. >> to discuss this further, i'm joined by the former spokesperson for the investigation branch at the transport department in the united kingdom. david, you don't really know where the flight data recorders are even. this will be a big job for investigators because the conditions are much less than ideal. >> they are in a hostile environment. it is a lawless part of the world. very difficult to know who's in charge and who could give the authority for these investigators to savely do the job they are there to do. >> many people are speculating and some stating with a degree o

the osc to go in and for russia to guarantee that they have safe passage in and out. otherwise, the blood that putin has on his hands will only be magnified. we can't go back to the old days of stalin and pressure nev and khrushchev where something like this is covered up. we live in a very international world today. we depend upon commerce and certain ground rules observed. one of them is you don't shoot down passenger airliners. if a major power is involved in that, they have a real responsibility and putin has to now try to undo some of the harm he's done by guaranteeing safe passage and access to an international investigation team going in there. right now, i'd say initially by osce. >> congressman peter king of new york. thank you so much. coming up, ukraine quick to point the finger at pro-russian rebels for shooting down the flight. they say phone conversation prove it. i'll ask the ukrainian ambassador coming up next. plus, scientists, students, babies. the tragic stories of the lives lost on flight 17 and the words of the family members and the loved ones th

they have tried the first two days, the inspectors joined with the osce monitors, trying to negotiateirst they go together, turn back, hearing shelling and the osce monitors themselves on a different route. we went to the north, saw en route heavy shelling, clear, back smoke in many different positions in the horizon around that crash site. it's a complex route. so for a convoy of 10 to 30, some armored vehicles, so much international attention moving between such a volatile area, like the international inspectors, it's much tougher than us, one small car moving through the countryside there. when we got there, though, no signs of separatists or inspectors or the ukrainian militant, at all to that particular area. but the scene itself, terrifyingly quiet. governmentally the stench of decay in the air, clearly still human remains in the area of the site. the cockpit flight pan there, the pilot's own bag. that had what must have been shrapnel holes in it. and a real strange sense of an abandoned crime scene, wolf. >> did you see any evidence, nick, of actually land mines or anything ind

. >> observers from the osce say pro-russia separatists limited their access to the site on friday, warningts were fired in to the eras the monitoring team was asked to leave. they have been trying to set up a corridor for investigators to get to the scene. the u.s. says the aircraft was shot down by a missile fired from a rebel-held area. all 298 passengers on board the plane were killed when it came down near the village. that's about 50-kilometers away from the russia border. wreckage is strewn across at least 15 square kilometers of farmlands. scott heidler is at the scene for us, and, scott, tell us what's happening there today. are the monitors going to be returning? >> reporter: yes, we are hearing, we are getting world that we will be returning and later in the morning. they are going to face, and what we faced on the way in, is lighter armed separatist presence quite honestly compared to the last two days that we have been here, last day and a half that we have been here. there are still some checkpoints on the way here, once you get to the site where we are, there is a very light

and that's been the main factor why the osc team, the international investigators from the netherlandse been unable, for the past four days, to reach that site. they said it's because of the poor security situation there. we've heard already they'll try again today to access the site. but with no end to the fighting around the crash area, it seems just as unlikely as previously that they're going to be able to acquire secure access. >> and, okay, matthew, just quickly then, how is that going to be done? because ukraine at this point seems determined -- the ukraine government seems determined to keep the fighting going in that area. >> yes, it seems to have rejected all suggestions that it curb its military offensive in the area to allow the investigators to get through. at the same time, the rebels are being blamed for preventing access as well. there's a couple of meetings that are going to get under way today. bringing together the various parties in this conflict to try and broker a deal to secure access for the investigators to the site. that may yield some results. russia will be

osce spokesman michael bociurkiw. >> the black box is a major piece of evidence. they're also concerned about the perimeter, to secure it to avoid tampering. >> reporter: time is critical in crash investigations and the time here is ticking away. and it is the pro-moscow rebels here under most suspicion for bringing down the plane and it is they who control the evidence. >> pelley: mark, thank you so much. the u.s. says it already has some evidence in hand and david martin learned what it is. >> reporter: a fire ball picked up by american satellites was first indication of surface-to-air missile armed with a high explosive warhead had struck the airliner. u.s. surveillance also detected a part of the missile's flight path as it streaked toward the plane allowing analysts to backtoward to the point of impact to an area on the ground at the border between ukrainian and russia most likely the ukraine within side of the border, territory held by pro-russian rebels. analysts identified it as likely a russian made sa-11, a sophisticated system of radars, command posts a

. >> obtained from the organization pour the security and corporation in europe, osce visited the crash site just over an hour on friday. but they say they were met with hostility from the separatists and not given access to the full site. >> meanwhile, ukraine's government has released this video, which they say shows a truck carrying a buk missile system with one of the missiles missing, driving toward the russian missiles missing. a driving toward the russian border. they've also released audio recordings, which they say are pro-russian rebels talking about acquiring the missiles from russia. take a listen. [ speaking in a foreign language ] [ speaking in a foreign language ] >> and to be clear, those are audio recordings released by the ukrainian government. let's talk about the situation at the crash site. there are serious concerns about the situation there. the bodies of the victims are starting to decompose and analysts say investigators need to start their work as soon as possible. there at the crash site and has this report. >> reporter: what remains of malaysian airlines flig

i filed the complaint with the osc. while they were processing my complaints, i took this very seriously to evaluate the veterans for whether they had compensable mental disorders related to their service. what i found again here was that in many instances, the veteran was not even heard properly. i had doubts whether the prior evaluation report was the same veteran or not. and this was a serious concern, so actually started to look at their i.d.s again to make sure that this was not some other person. and the problem here was that the veteran did not have enough time to explain their situation. it was a hurried conveyor belt-like system where i was specifically told i was spending too much time with the veteran, that i should hurry up and see the veteran and just check a few boxes in my evaluation because it's meant for some rater somewhere to rate the disability. but that's not how i saw my job, and i think that's not the right way to do it. three components need to be accomplished in these evaluations because these a

they're saying that to osce monitors.he dutch and australians were sending in military police, maybe even armed forces. do you believe there is actually going to be an investigation? >> anderson, there is never going to be an investigation. clearly, at this point, the best evidence points to the rebels. they do not want to come out and provide witnesses. they don't mind if the plane is pulled away and people wander through the site. but they're not going to have police helping with this investigation is what you need, because we need to find out who shot the missile and why. and we're not going to get that right now. it's the middle of a civil war. i've never seen a worse situation to investigate an airline shoot-down like this ever. i mean, even over the ocean, you're better off. and the russians clearly do not intend to help. they are going to step up this fight in the eastern ukraine. they're in trouble right now, and they're going to keep sending more weapons across. and right now they don't care about an investigatio

the osce is joined by dutch investigators.e here, one, because they understand how to control a crime scene like this. of course, they lost the most in terms of life on mh 17 and they're here to identify their loved ones assuming they can find the bodies and are given proper access. that's the problem. the man who just ran across is the member of a police force that had a very nasty reputation during the recent fighting in ukraine and kiev. when they showed up, very rough, weapons out, telling everybody to get out of the way and limiting access to the scene by the same people they're supposed to be cooperating with. that's the frustration going on now. on one hand, this is good. the experts are here, the people who lost so many of their countrymen are here. but at the same time they're being restrained by very impressive military men. again, the bare coot, aren't just local militia. they're special police who are somewhat out casts in ukraine after recent fighting. they have taken up residents in donetsk and are part of the se

he's with osce, the monitoring agency.o identify the dead and getting real answers about what happened to mh-17. hopefully they will be safe on ground. lots of other news. let's get to john. >>> you heard about all the breaking news in ukraine and the middle east. what's going on here. house republicans voted to sue president obama. in a party line vote the house approved a resolution authorizing this suit accusing the president of overstepping his constitutional authority, particularly in how he implemented or didn't implement parts of obamacare. chief congressional correspondent dana bash live in washington. dana, explain to me exactly how this suit works. >> the answer is we don't have an answer what. house republicans did was give this vote to authorize, and they are not exactly sure what the next steps are. in many ways this is unchartered territory. what they are going to do is formally put together a legal team that will make the final decisions about where to file suit and when to file suit, but it is unclear wheth

and the osce and other international i agencies. because by their nature it would be more impartial and less subject to questioning after the fact f, in fact, they do implicate the separatists in russia the president has the case to take to the europeans. if they do not, if it is a result of tampering with the evidence, of a lack of integrity at the crash scene, obviously already reports now unconfirmed that many have -- some have made off with the black boxes from this flight, well, then the president can point to that as tampering as well. i think they are trying to cover both end and every possible eventuality. tony. >> mike viqueira for us at the white house. thank you, mike. >>> russia is facing growing international pressure to reignn in pro-russian separatist in the wake of the crash. rory challands is in moscow with a look at the next steps. >> reporter: i think we are going to be seeing three different types of russian response. the first is on the kind of high-level diplomatic stage. the kind of which we heard from vitale

a spokesman for the osce joins me tonight.y in a row where you haven't been able to get to the site. what happened. >> reporter: there were a lot of talks going on and we as the osc mission took the decision to do a recognizance trip, two vehicles today and we were heavily kited up and we made it as far -- we made it the other day, 2/3rds of the way to the crash site. once we got there, it was clear the bombing and shelling was heavy. at one point we had to take cover next to the vehicles because it was so bad. what this indicates, once again, is that one or perhaps both sides are not honoring their commitment seriously. today was meant to be a day of tranquility where the osc special monitoring situation as well as up to 50, 60 experts from the netherlands would have gone out to the crash site and done the crucial work we've talked about before. >> again, it bears repeating because viewers may not have heard you. for the first time you have personnel with you from the netherlands, from australia who actually have equipment th

keep up the good work and good luck to you and your entire osce team.y in close touch with all of you. thank you very, very much. >>> up next, the faa extends the ban on on u.s. airlines flying into tel aviv. why did the former city mayor michael bloomberg hop on one of the few remaining flights? we'll ask him. >>> growing talk of a possible cease-fire between israel and hamas, i'll get the latest from the spokesman from hamas and also i'll speak with the spokesman for the prime minister of israel. ♪ (train horn) vo: wherever our trains go, the economy comes to life. norfolk southern. one line, infinite possibilities. [ male announcer ] that's why there's ocuvite to help replenish key eye nutrients. ocuvite has a unique formula not found in your multivitamin to help protect your eye health. ocuvite. help protect your eye health. for over 19 million people. [ susan ] my promotion allowed me to start investing for my retirement. transamerica made it easy. [ female announcer ] everyone has a moment when tomorrow becomes real. transamerica. transform tomorr

because as we saw there and as the osc are telling us, there is every reason to believe there are still more remains, more bodies yet to be found in that very large debris field, hala. >> and eastern ukraine itself, i mean, the actual fighting, the actual sort of conflict between those pro-russian rebels and the ukrainian government, after the crash some people were saying well maybe this will be an opportunity to reassess, and the conflict will actually wind down. but it has been the opposite, hasn't it? >> reporter: it certainly doesn't appear to have any meaningful impact in terms of reducing or deterring either side from fighting here. all day when we were out at the site yesterday we heard heavy indirect fire, the use of heavy weapons in the near distance. it was a constant rumble. here in donetsk through the night we heard the same. we heard a lot of firearms as well, out towards the direction of donetsk's airport. it has been a constant sound here, despite crucially the ukrainian government saying it would set up a demilitarized zone around the crash site itself. there is still t