he is the first executive editor of outserve magazine. kathryn miller was a cadet at west point until she resigned in protest of don't ask, don't tell. she worked as one of outserve's main spokespersons during the fight to repeal don't ask, don't tell a bearing on national television and escorting lady gaga at mtv's music video awards. she's studying at gil mack answers on outserve's board of directors. daniel hernandez was a lance corporal in the u.s. marine corps said the separation from the marines has been a staff member at outserve's members what he has worked for the repeal of don't ask, don't tell. deputy op-ed editor at the new times. he was a correspondent for the newspaper and the founding bureau chief of the cd-rom news blog. and the metropolitan reporter covering transportation and city hall. thank you all for being with us and look forward to hearing you. thanks. >> thank you all for coming tonight on a rainy night. it's possible to have a great discussion. in fact, often better discussion with a small crowd than large ones.

he is the first executive editor of outserve magazine. kathryn miller was a cadet at west point until she resigned in protest of don't ask, don't tell. she worked as one of outserve's main spokespersons during the fight to repeal don't ask, don't tell, appearing on national television and escorting lady gaga at mtv's music video awards. she is currently studied at yale and serves on outserve's board of directors. daniel hernandez was a lance corporal in the u.s. marine corps since his separation from the brink is based have never and legal defense network wears work for the repeal of don't ask, don't tell. deputy op-ed editor at the new york times, previously of washington economic correspondent for the newspaper and the founding bureau chief of the city room news blog. and a metropolitan reporter covering transportation and seal. thank you all for being with us and i look forward to hearing from you. thanks. >> thank you all for coming tonight. it's possible to have a great discussion and often their discussions with a small crowd and wi

i think that's why outserve is so important right now. we are such a visible organization across the world at these military bases that it's changing people's minds because they see that there's a bunch of us serving right now. and i think in the world that we never came along and created this, i think we would be way further behind than we are right now, the fact that so many service hebbs came out and did things -- service members came out and did things like the book that we progressed, i think, farther than our counterpart overseas because of the leadership people have shown. >> let's get some questions from the audience. is there a microphone to pass around? we're on? please introduce yourself. >> hi, my name is scott. i have two -- well, i have a question about the magazine, actually. um, it's kind of nuts and bolts. i just wondered about the process of actually getting it on the military bases. was that smooth, or did you have resistance or heros in terms of finding an actual official space to distribute it? >> it was very smooth.

there is a sense of, i think there is a real sense, and we sought out the outserve summit. there was a summit conference in october of several hundred folks, both active and veterans as well, and there was a real passing of the torch. because of don't ask, don't tell week, veterans, have had to be the katie's point, we had to be the phase and the voice of our lgbt service members. we have done that. for years we've done the best we could, and now effective separate 20th our active duty folks, jonathan, josh, so many others can now do that. so, you know, i think there's a tremendous sense of, that we finally, you know, a little bit, i can't believe we accomplished it. we finally accomplish getting don't ask, don't tell repealed, and even though many of us are still going to be in the fight to get, to get benefits for partners and family, benefit equally, many of us will still be in the fight for trans equality. but now we share that fight with our active duty folks because they don't have to be hidden any longer. huge. after west point were you an active duty officer and sup