people about the new exit is christians leaving the holy land christians have lived in historic palestine since the advent of christianity alongside muslims and jews now there are growing concerns the christian community will soon disappear . to. discuss the fate of christians in palestine i'm joined by alex out why in jerusalem he is a pastor of the east jerusalem baptist church and a professor at bethlehem bible college also in jerusalem we have david parsons he's a media and public relations officer with the international christian embassy jerusalem and in haifa we go to daphne simponi she's a professor of modern middle east history at technion israel's institute of technology and another member of our cross talk team yell on the hunger or a cross talk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want alex i'd like to go to you over the last sixty years or so we've seen the christian population of what is the legal borders of israel and the the west bank and gaza drop significantly there are different estimates there from one in twenty where their population was christian. at

a secure state of israel and a viable state of palestine. and the fact that they're going to be doing this in a somewhat different way from how we originally contemplated it, i don't think that matters so much. the important thing is that they conduct intensive negotiations with both sides to see, look, is there really a basis upon which we can move forward? then as i emphasize all the time, in the meantime, carry on with the issues to do with the economy and security and, for example, bringing help to people in gaza and giving palestinians a sense that it's possible if we can have a political negotiation that succeeds, that they will run their own state and given the israelis the assurances that they will require on security since that is the key concern that israel has. so, you know, i don't think it's a foolish thing for the americans to step back from the original path forward and say let's work out the right way forward and get this thick on -- thing on track properly. >> larry: how would you assess the obama administration since they'v

but if they should visit definitely he will dimitri medvedev is forthcoming visit to palestine israel and jordan is a major political event. it will have great importance both for the region and for producing a positive impact on the current extremely complex situation in the middle east and certainly it will be important for our relations with palestine israel and jordan with one of the visits main goals is undoubtedly to contribute to the creation of favorable conditions for the resumption of movement towards peace comprehensive peace in the middle east and an atmosphere that would make this peace process irreversible. the second vital aspect of this visit will naturally consist in strengthening our bilateral relations. russia has formed and developed friendly relations with the palestinians the israelis and the jordanians cooperation in various fears is developing and we hope that the visit will give new impetus to this project. but going back to the quartet role i would like to ask you about tony blair's role in the quartet the latest wiki leaks publications and avoid him do you t

the embassy of the state of palestine is located in moscow the russian embassy operates in the palestinian territories this makes it evident that russia and the palestinian side of a common view of the fact that the palestinian people should have their. own state which should be recognized by the international community. but. israeli prime minister netanyahu issued instructions to all israeli diplomatic missions to exert pressure on all countries that are planning to recognize the palestinian state do you think that this will further aggravate the situation the nation with the. you know every state has a sovereign right to make its own decisions if a country decides to recognize a palestinian state it's a reality that should be reckoned with at the end of this that the pressure that as far as i know president medvedev is planning to visit israel and the palestinian territories in the near future many think it's going to be a historic visit to the palestinian lands will the russian president make any proposals to the middle east region business but if they should visit definitely he will di

rights for all of its citizens personally file for ministers put off the decision to recognize palestine how does this set back your mission well i think personally i would say my view but shared by many others is that palestinian state should come out of direct negotiations between the palestinian authority in the state of israel and i hope that happens at some point soon but i think that's the way the state of palestine should emerge not by some recognition or decree from outside. recently a place c.n.n. interior ministry official deny the holocaust and the calder legend and this sort of case is what impact protecting the holocaust have. i think you mean laws that would prohibit holocaust denial and it's something that we're all concerned about in the case of lithuania in fact shortly after this official wrote this article was published. he lost his job in the interior ministry. and with the way he had a very strong statement on this. i think that's important that we never describe the denial the question of the holocaust and reduce there should be a quick and swift response in some ca

as a natural home for jewish people. 1920, the british mandate over palestine. 78% of palestine gets chopped off and israel is left with 22%. 1929, and if you want to see what the effect of those begrons were, go to the museum. see the pictures there. see the history. 1936 to 1938, more than 500 jews murdered. 47 the u.s. partition plan which cut off that 22% into 10%. and still, still israel accepted it because israel is so grateful to have anything. but the arabs went to war. the arabs went to war and when they went to war before they went to war, they told their people run away. there were probably 700,000 arabs in israel at the time. they were told run away while we resolve this war. and then you'll come back as soon as we get rid of this muttly army of holocaust survivor jews that are left here. and so they did run away. at the same time that that number left, one million jews from arab countries were forced to leave their homes, their possessions, their wealth behind, and they became refugees. well, you know the story of the arab refugees today, they are still -- now they're no

rights for all of its citizens recently for foreign ministers put off their decision to recognize palestine how does this set back your mission well i think personally i would say my view shared by many others is that the palestinian state should come out of direct negotiations between the palestinian authority in the state of israel and i hope that happens at some point soon but i think that's the way the state of palestine should emerge not by some. recognition of a decree from outside so your concerns for the rise of online anti-semitism have been heard and ever recorded what a thing is to blame the media is it is it the media that's irresponsible or the legislators failed to protect the society you know this is a real challenge everywhere i think the last thing we want is to say somehow governments need to control media beat this somehow prohibit wholesale this kind of expression but there really need needs to be concerted efforts to figure out how to control this kind of hatred that is spreading as you've identified particularly on the internet these days and that means engaging intern

it occurs to me -- a palestine -- for my people a palestinian state. he should have started on day one of the moratorium instead of waiting until the end. i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady yields back the balance of her time. the gentleman from indiana is recognized. mr. burton: may i inquire as to how many more speakers the chairman has? mr. berman: i have one additional speaker and then i comment to close. i believe i'm entitled to close on this issue. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is correct. mr. berman: so one more speaker. mr. burton: i'll reserve the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves the balance of his time. the gentleman from california is recognized. mr. berman: mr. speaker, i'm very pleased to yield two minutes to one who has been really an ardent supporter of the resolution of the israeli-palestinian conflict and peace in the middle east, my friend from california, mrs. caps, for two minutes. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady from california is recogni

does israel palestine play out there. in those names alone, you can see the christian community in nigeria very strongly identified with the israelis. of course, you are going to see much of that within the muslim context too. sometimes it's an excuse. osama bin laden we know came to the israel/palestine late. 1998. it wasn't an issue for him before that. in the same way, sometimes israel/palestine can be a political football for those trying to garner their local interest. >> host: blond american woman along "the 10th parallel." >> guest: it was -- dirty secret, it's easier to be a woman than a man. most violence is random. if somebody comes up to your car with their ak-47 and they look in, there's a woman, you get 15 seconds of grace period. a little bit of shock goes a long way. that doesn't mean that many of my female colleagues haven't been mistreated. kidnapping a woman is expensive, it's religious suspect, you need a woman to watch her, a separate space. so in those small ways, which are really the most important,

as a natural home for jewish people. 1920, the british mandate over palestine. 78% of palestine getspped off and israel is left with 22%. 1929, and if you want to see what the effect of those begrons were, go to the museum. see the pictures there. see the history. 1936 to 1938, more than 500 jews murdered. 47 the u.s. partition plan which cut off that 22% into 10%. and still, still israel accepted it because israel is so grateful to have anything. but the arabs went to war. the arabs went to war and when they went to war before they went to war, they told their people run away. there were probably 700,000 arabs in israel at the time. they were told run away while we resolve this war. and then you'll come back as soon as we get rid of this muttly army of holocaust survivor jews that are left here. and so they did run away. at the same time that that number left, one million jews from arab countries were forced to leave their homes, their possessions, their wealth behind, and they became refugees. well, you know the story of the arab refugees today, they are still -- now they're not ju

palestine, israel. mexico, as i watch them struggling with their cultural identities and trying to maintain the identities and have the respect as the american citizens they are in this country, it got me to thinking about my family heritage and thinking about how history really does repeat itself. because i know that my people want through these same issues in the famine times when they came. and i thought to myself, why are not more of these stories being told? we need to collect these stories. i am at an age where my parents and their cousins, their siblings, they are getting close end of their life. one of the main ways i collect my information is through oral history i knew time was on the essense. there were stories that would be lost if i didn't collect these stories immediately. and that's what i embarked upon doing. >> i grew up in brooklyn, new york. my experience was landing by birth into an urban town land. my family, my mother is first generation i'm second generation. my grand mother lived

palestine, it was reengineered after world war i. and very badly. henry cabot lodge warned against at and said the notion that we should fix the affairs and arbitrate between the two is deadly. but people assume themselves to be wiser sought that we should somehow become the arbiters of the world. and indeed the fact that we did not become the arbiters of the world became an item by which our foreign policy ruling class accused the american people of responsibility for world war ii. some of you may be old enough to remember the title which was wilson made in 1944 and the head the was none at other than henry cabot lodge the movie was so outrageous that when franklin roosevelt showed it to winston churchill he walked out in a rage. but the point* was what every school child has learned that the american people were unfaithful to their great leader woodrow wilson and that started world war ii quite as much as adolf hitler but ruled four to it was certainly necessary to support staal and in 1941 budget was most certainly foolish for him to maintain tha

the two-state solution is of israel, not palestine.t comes between the river and the sea will not be greater israel, but a greater palestine. i think many jews, i think, in this country don't sufficiently appreciate that the defense is defending israel. i think that the legitimacy of israel's means of self-defense needs to be defended. we saw this in the aftermath of the gaza war and the fact is that israel is called upon to defend itself in ways that are complicated and it's a cold way of describing the issue here, and this is something that needs to be -- the realities of israeli self-defense in this new climate. #eu look at -- i look at israel and say it needs to be defended. the second thing is i see a society that swings in a way between extremes of joy and dread in some way. i see a society that swings between an extraordinary openness to the world, and in some ways an increasingly closingness of the world. there's the bliss of tel-aviv, and you know, the extraordinary vitality of the place. israeli culture and literature, journa