wants to throw them all into egypt and they're not palestinians are part of egypt they're part of palestine and i know this to kill us i mean unless you respond right now you can't go ahead in jerusalem go ahead go ahead replied the alley i apologize but i think ali is completely falsifying the fact that israel has continuously offered the palestinians in negotiations a palestinian state built on an established land in the gaza strip and the west bank with continuity in a way of connecting those two parts as evil as this is really. new in the deep eyes and there are twenty hammers into the air down a dentist israeli citizens so it's a total israel resort in the gaza strip. to say that. because there are really gentlemen we're all talking over there else quest you can go ahead. chris go ahead i want chris to go you are saying something going. to have to disagree. chris gentlemen israel has the right to do this it's ok we'll talk about it if you can begin to build a state this idea that gaza can become part of a state and that israel is opening its arms wide to that possibility simply is not

the agenda is the the israeli agenda is to disconnect gaza which is part and parcel of historic palestine and its people to disconnect it completely to him it thickly seal it and to dump it on to egypt that's why he's saying why don't you bring the goods through egypt but what is gaza really it is a giant prison for one point six million people eighty percent of them refugees from towns and villages destroyed towns and villages the in what is now israel and israel wants nothing to do with them for one reason only and that's because the jews that's the fundamentally racist nature of this blockade because if the people of gaza who are native an indigenous to palestine know what mr katz would call israel israel would open the prison gates of gaza and welcome them home so this is why the blockade is fundamentally political fundamentally of racist and fundamentally if you're going to have a chance to resist them israel wants to throw them all into egypt and then knock palestinians on the parts of egypt on their part of palestine and i notice the can yes i mean unless you respond right now you

aviv and washington is really what's furious about that barack obama's suggestion that that the palestine borders should be considered in the borders of nine hundred sixty seven and well gee accept a two state solution in principle first of all do like the principle and just so our policy is very clear for us we don't want to govern the palestinians now according to austin or we thought about having two states for two peoples and one of us in egypt. people say even to people as he denies the existence of jewish people who claims judaism being diligent it's neither nationality and all people who would so why should a religion have a state and this is a problem so when there has been obama or paul doing initiative we are furious because he put first of all the issue of territories when we have to negotiate territories as a policy and has just to get there not to give anything and this is a case it's also what deed is a as quote from the palestinians is the last twenty years. as a response for giving in the territory instead of land for peace we got planned for terrible with more than one se

wants to throw them all into egypt and they're not palestinians are part of egypt they're part of palestine and i noticed the can you something i should respond right now you can go ahead in jerusalem go ahead go ahead replied the alley i apologize but i think ali is completely falsifying the fact that israel has continuously offered the palestinians in negotiations a palestinian state built on an established land in the gaza strip and the west bank with continuity in a way of connecting those two persons even though is this is really three parts of new in the deep eyes and if there are twenty percent of the error of their latest israeli citizen stresses the trial is going. to resume in because there she ripped through all this. his role in the only evidence raising ours is because they are this gentleman we're all talking over there else quietly go ahead. chris go ahead i want chris to go you are saying something i have example i have you have going because you disagree chris christie gentlemen israel has the right to do this it's ok we're happy about it if you can begin to build a state t

to throw them all into egypt and then knock palestinians on across parts of egypt their part of palestine i know lisa can you something i should respond right now you had in jerusalem go ahead go ahead replied the alley i apologize but i think ali is completely falsifying the fact that israel has continuously offered the palestinians in negotiations a palestinian state built on an established land in the gaza strip and the west bank with continuity in a way of connecting those two persons implies this israelis on three points of new in the deep eyes and there are twenty three into the air of animation is this really so it is interesting as the photo is real. because there she. says. it is rolled down. because they are this gentleman we're all talking over there else quietly go ahead. chris go ahead i want chris to go you are saying something i have example i. have going to see during christmas go ahead chris gentlemen israel has the right to do this it's like ok we'll talk about it if you can begin to build a state this idea that garza can become part of a state and that israel is opening

relative -- it was a little easier with the palestine and israel. they were not targeting journalists. they did not like our stories. they were not targeting in iraq and afghanistansts have been targeted and have had to have heavy security there to operate there. >> caller: hi, how are you? >> guest: good. >> caller: i was wondering if you guys could talk about whether or not in your book -- i missed a large part of your earlier conversation. i read j post and herats and those are the two things i look at. i'm surprised how diverse the discussion is inside the middle east and particularly in israel regarding the different views held even by israelis and they seem to have a broader and more diverse discussion than we often hear here. and i was wondering if you got into, in your book the sort of both sides of the discussion that's even happening in israel that's really reflected in the israeli press there? >> guest: yeah, yeah. we absolutely do and this is -- the point you made is literally verbatim of what we said many times. the paper you mentioned

the state of palestine think that is the state of palestine and they demonstrate intervene citizens in israel now understand that the government is actually carrying us down for into another war when it is totally not necessary. believe in that so we have time for thanks very much and as you said this he talks about the escalation of violence it is very. thank you so much i'm sorry we obviously clearly got a problem with the delay so thanks very much for joining us here on r.t. and i'm sorry about the delay in communication thanks for joining. syria is the top story in the world update state television there is reporting that one hundred twenty policeman have been killed in a gun battle in the north of the country officials claim security personnel came under attack by ongoings in the town the turkish border government forces are trying to quell the month small protest against the rule of president bashar al assad. a former i.m.f. chief has pleaded not guilty to charges of sex crimes it was dominique strauss kahn's first appearance in a new york court since being released on six millio

foreign policy, and actually talk for the first time this past quarter a course on ryan is a man palestineecause i've gotten very interested in the israeli-palestinian conflict and very interested in the history of zionism. >> host: what was the reaction is your last book? >> guest: as i'm sure you know, the reaction here in the united states was loud and almost normally-in the mainstream press. i don't think we get a single positive review and the estates. the most positive review we got was in israel. cover the book in three separate pieces including one major review. all three of the pieces were positive. we got a much better -- we get much better treatment in israel than in the united states. >> host: why do you think that is? >> guest: almost impossible in the united states to criticize israel or to criticize the u.s. israeli relationship in the mainstream media. if you do it you will pay a real price. i think israelis are much more comfortable about themselves and much more aware. it is much more open and free society when it comes to talking about israel and the united states. it is

this is a case where the israel's reaction if the state of palestine will be recognized and what may become the a member of the united nations how would you react to the evidence or or where or are you not commenting about you know being of course. we claim and we have to warn our friends at any unit all appalled in the palestinian in these early part of conflict is going to be very dangerous for western interests or secular good interests killing why because if the palestinians. have the option not only go shoot a final settlement they would prefer it what will come out of it we believe the second hamastan in the west bank i failed an australian thirty three result it's not going to serve me go easily into worst no jordanian not even american or european or russian interest as we believe to have another hama stand in in the west bank so we reject we strongly object to the idea of for bringing this issue to the united nations security council whatever and to approve it. seventy percent of the palestinians according to the latest polls i believe strongly believe that that there will b

and the palestinians now solution is that it does not preclude palestine israel is the only country in the world that is a member of the united nations that does not have a constitution and not declared up to now its borders because israel continues to expand and continues to annex out of people's lands and in the process they have created this long. bishan which has become now a system of segregation and. in human history israel is the oppressive. system in south africa. could not continue because the people of south africa decided to struggle against it and it will deny the right of the south africans to be from apartheid and the united states was the last to come and this will be the case here in palestine the fact that the israeli lobby is very powerful in the united states would not stop us from demanding what freedom our independence i want a democracy and the world has to accept palestinians as equal human beings to the israelis and equal human beings to everybody. you are with art see and if you missed something on our program you can always catch it at our website artsy dot co

unfortunately, even though president obama mentioned tunisia, egypt, libya, syria iran, palestine bahrainand yemen he did not mention saudi arabia, and it is also a thing quite clear that the united states with the considerable leverage that it has, vis-À-vis yemen, vis-a-vis up dole that the united states did not exert enough pressure on mr. salus to leave willfully and to reduce the possibility of bloodshed in that country. he of course spoke also about the palestinian-israeli conflict and i will leave my co-panelists to speak about that but i don't think quite realistically as arab-americans we are going to get a president who is able to say anything better than what mr. obama has said and i think that is the harsh reality of politics in this country. he spoke about a viable palestinian state. he spoke about the 1967 lines with mutual land swaps. he spoke about a sovereign palestinian state. he used the word contiguous and so on and he also said that the international community was tired of a quote endless process that never produces an outcome. so, i think one of the lessons of this,

is that it does not that it would be nice palestine israel is the only country in the war that is a member of the united nations that does not have a constitution and not be cleared up and now its borders because israel continues to expand and continues to annex other people's land and in the process they have created this long military will keep bishan which has become now a system will start to get. in human history israel is the place of. i thought a type system in south africa. would not continue because the people of south africa decided to struggle against and deny the rights of the south africans to be from apartheid the united states was the last time and this will be the case here in palestine the fact that the israeli lobby is very powerful in the united states would not stop us from demanding freedom independence what a democracy and the world has to accept palestinians as equal human beings to the israelis and equal human beings. everybody. now if you missed anything on our program you can always catch up on our website about starting dot com there are plenty of other stories a

palestinian conflict as well there has to be a decisive attempt to end the israeli occupation of palestine to end the brutal oppression of palestinians because that has been a tool that is exploited by many governments in the region and on. to thwart change and to distract people from from internal problems well i guess the reason why regimes for example like the syrian regime still has some level of popularity is that they're able to say well look ok maybe we're not very nice to our people but look at our policy toward israel we're standing up. if i can add to what has to be taken from if i could go to david i mean what is top of mind you think for western leaders and political leaders is it just a real arrangement of the political order in the arab world to serve western interests ok all right mubarak's gone ok ben ali's gone but we have to find a new mubarak we have to find a new ben ali maybe with a more kind of semi democratic face which makes everyone feel more comfortable but they just want really allies say because it's been proven because brains out there i mean these people prote

>>reporter: today in gaza city hundreds of palestine gather for unveiling of memorial for 9 activistled last year in an is israeli raid on international flotilla. video from the confrontation flashed around the world. they were attacked as they repel on to one of the ship. is israelis open fire killing 8 turk and one american turk teenager. in san francisco last year henry organized a protest. this year he says he's going on the next flotilla scheduled to leave at the end of june. >> it will be if flying with u.s. flag unthe name of audacity of hope named after obama book. >>reporter: he understands there could be a repeat of last year confrontation. but this time he says passengers will not be trying to fight off heavily armed is israeli commando. >> hope they don't get involved because it's none of their business. sailing to gaza from international waters and we hope they will ignore us. >>reporter: at the is israeli consulate the con some general said they won't allow to it go unchecked. >> we of course try to do it without any injury to anyone but i hope they won't be attacked wi

it is that it does not recognize palestine israel is the only country in the world that is a member of the united nations that does not have a constitution and did not declare the now its borders i wish you would ask this question to put it all prime minister why is that and if you insist i didn't fight it's because israel continues to expand and continues to annex other people's land and in the course is they have created this long military occupation which has become now a system of segregation and. the rust in human history israel is the oppressor. as we've heard from you now several times israel is the oppressor israel is your bring us back if you would once again to the possible establishment of a palestinian state considering america's very powerful influence the world body of the un is there any chance that such should recognition pashley passthrough get voted through the wall. even if then i just this does not that it will denies it we will continue to ask for it and we will get it. system in south africa. could not continue because the people of south africa decided to struggl

to discuss the developments in libya i'm joined live from seattle by ramsey prove he's editor of palestine chronicle dot com thanks for joining us here on r.t. effect will congress putting into question u.s. military involvement have ongoing action in libya do you think. from his circle experiences specially the recent ones in iraq and afghanistan we can predict that it's really going to have very little effect to washington is much more jittery when it comes to war these days thanks to their experiences in the middle east but also seemed to in the past the congress have. taken on such initiatives and questioned the wisdom of. previous presidents did very little really start what is taking place and i don't think libya is going to be the exception i mean you were there in the usa i was talking to a commentator in the u.s. not long ago and he was saying about a could be impeach this is that really likely. no not truly i mean we've seen worse things happening you know iraq is the prime example i mean the fact the whole war was under the rug of of weapons of mass destructions and all of that

and palestine. in your heart, you know the arabic expression. i would say the u.s. will work with democracy if it goes in tandem with u.s. interest even though president obama said himself you know these democratic changes, we have to work them even though they may be counter to our interest. so i think obama is smart enough to realize these democracies in the long run will be good for the u.s. and for those countries, but he also realizes there may be some short-term in midterm tensions. >> before we open it up to the audience. >> may i just add one thing about arab-americans? what we can do is arab-americans is -- this incident about the song in the end it ended up being a incident of protecting the syrian regime from itself. you can experience anyway you want. the result is a d.c. doesn't want a song that protest the syrian regime. i think we as an organization -- it is hypocritical of us to lobby against israel and not to say a word about our efforts. not to say a word about -- not to say a word about any of it. [applause] how do we live like this? how do we liv

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