palestinian state. not at all. and many israeli officials for years i would say starting september in one thousand nine hundred three until today and maybe even prior to that have been saying all the right things they've been talking about peace they've been talking about security they've been talking about the palestinian independence and they want to see a palestinian state but what they are doing on the ground is what really matters i don't care what then says i don't care what when jimmy netanyahu said in his last speech were there before the congress or before the knesset were truly matters are the settlements are the soldiers are the tanks are the boots on the ground and this is what we really need to be talking about not the rhetoric because we've heard so much rhetoric really frankly from all sides but but that doesn't change much as long as the tank is still there and the settlements are being expanded i do actually agree with very poor it my only thing with the report is is that this sentence that israel might find itself

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right away that i'm in favor of a palestinian state and that israel is in favor of a palestinian state and that the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu has stated that he is in favor of a palestinian state but the only way to get to a palestinian state is through negotiations there are no short cuts there are no other ways of doing it and i would just like to take issue with the report that you just showed which suggested that the united nations general assembly can recognize a palestinian state and grant that state membership of the united nations that is flatly wrong only the security council can do that and i don't you know i think i'll leave all that a lot of there's a lot of legal opinion that would strongly disagree with you sir on that strongly disagree with you on that ok it is one of the reasons why you are going the united nations security council because it is like a last resort if i go to rooms they please my. mr netanyahu says he is for a palestinian state is that a palestinian state that you even would recognize even if baby israeli said we recognize a palestinian state. not at all jim

somehow, trying to resolve the israeli-palestinian conflict. at these moments when others are diverted and it becomes easier, not more difficult for israelis and palestinians to engage without the external pressure, without having to game washington, try to get the u.s. on your side which israeli government's are normally preoccupied with. and basically we're in agreement. this would be a good time for the israeli government to take the initiative. what i fear is that the problem with the palestinian leadership is not good -- that they do not want to [unintelligible] they do not believe netanyahu is serious. i have at all -- they have an alternative route. i am afraid that will lead to deterioration of the situation as israel looks to retaliate against the palestinians for the isolation that israel is suffering. it is a question of sitting down quietly and figuring out how to do this. and if they do not soon, they will resign or he will unite with hamas, as difficult as that might be. that is the trend they are heading toward. for all these reas

palestinian. i mean all of a sudden israeli leader says i'm prepared to accept a palestinian state.ou know, after whatever negotiations. >> if you were a palestinian would you say of course you should accept a palestinian state, wouldn't you? >> i will tell you, i'm telling the palestinians. we are a state, we are a successful state. please learn a little bit from our experience. when-- started to build his-- we didn't have borderses. we didn't have recognition. he built without borders. i told him, start building, start building. >> but they are doing that, you just said that. fayyad and ramallah is doing that. >> 40 years too late. if they would do it at the beginning they would have a different situation. i welcome the building. >> but i think most of them whoop understand thats was a tragic mistake they made in 48y. >> but they continued for a very long time. and today, too, i believe that you can reach a pragmatic agreement without solving all the problems. you begin a negotiation because you have a disagreement and you cannot accept that at the beginning of the negotiation, wo

palestinians doing bad things. i should criticize it. and for the american jewish people, the israelis to speak loudly, all of us, we make mistakes and we must speak loudly from goodwill to everyone about the bad things they are doing. and i can say to you, the palestinians and the israelis, it is one boat. and the current israeli government with the policies, they are adopting it's not how important it is. to everyone who's living there come in when we say the current israeli government is taking the right action, we save all, israelis, palestinians can an american jews, and others. it's time to speak loudly. not to close our eyes about what is happening there. that's what is needed to proceed forward. if you see what you heard and to learn about the documents, have you heard about it? yes. what do you need more than that? it was a document signed by the palestinian authority with many concessions and the israeli government refused it. we must say who is against the peace? who is not willing? what you need more than that, documented in writing. they signed and even it was signed by th

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palestinians. it is not. it is the conclusion, i think, that most israelis have reached. to put it in one line, they are not going to live in peace with the palestinians, but they can live in peace apart from the palestinians, so the question i asked myself is if that is the end result, and three prime ministers in a row, including netanyahu, have looked at this result, why is it not possible to take the smallest step in that direction? not just for the diplomatic benefit that may accrue in washington or new york or london or berlin, but because this is the direction that israel says it needs to go in. you know, the zionists did not create israel by waiting for help from others. they certainly look for help from others, and they got some, but basically, they acted, and that has been the history of the zionist movement and the history of israel since 1948, to act to advance its interests. i myself have a home in the middle east. actions israel can take, rather than waiting, waiting for the israelis to make a mistake, waiting for the international community to do things that

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involvement in libya, the wars in iraq and afghanistan, observers agree that the israeli-palestinian peace negotiations have not advanced in a way that the administration had hoped. and that efforts to invigorate arab-israeli negotiations have at times tested the u.s.-israeli relationship. we are privileged to have with us this morning three experts, each with a unique first and perspective on america's middle east policy. these veterans will share their views of the challenges facing the administration and their vision to the bestay forward in theuest for an arab-israeli peace and for stability in the region. mark is vice-president and director for foreign-policy at the brookings institution and senior adviser and special envoy for middle east peace, george mitchell -- george mitchell. it as senior director of near east and south asian affairs. his department posts include two tours as u.s. ambassador to israel and service as assistant secretary of state for near east affairs. before entering government service, he served for eight year as founding executive director of the washingto

. >>> yesterday, president obama used the recent middle east turmoil to make a case for israelis and palestinians to make peace. meeting israeli president perez at the white house, mr. obama said that the region's uprising is, quote, more urgent than ever to find a resolution to the israel/palestinian conflict. meanwhile, a group of israelis have formed a new group of peaceful agreements. it offers new new ideas, but it hopes it will encourage netanyahu to break the deadlock. >>> back here residents in the nation's south remain without power this morning after violent storms pounded the region with tornados, hail and lightning yesterday. the storms were part of a fast moving system that cut a wide swath from the mississippi river across the region to georgia and the carolinas. at least nine people were killed including several who died on roads by downed trees and power lines. the national weather service has confirmed eight tornados among the two dozen reported. >>> now here's a look at other stories making news early today in america. the hunt is on for a brazen gunman in kentucky after he exec

. >> well, an israeli air strike has killed at least three palestinians. the israeli army says the target was hamas militants who they allege was planning to kidnap israelis. hamas confirmed the men who died were militants but they refused to comment on the alleged kidnapping plot. now on the attack in afghanistan. the incident has been widely condemned in the united states. >> we did hear from some of our constituents today and they asked us to do what we did, which is condemn what happened. that's unacceptable no matter what the provocation. that's no not what islam teaches us to do. >> what is the feeling among muslims in the united states about the burning of the koran last month? >> well, we find it unfortunate. but welcome to the first amendment. that's his right to do that. and terry jones, the pastor in florida who did the koran burning, he is a media seeker. that is what he wants. he wants the spotlight. he wants people to pay attention to him. so we did the best thing you can do, which is ignore him. and it's been that way for about a week. nobody

palestinian state. unilateral recognition would not contribute at all to this objective, which i consider essential. >> a resurgence in violence between israelis and palestinians has worsened the situation in recent weeks. germany has repeatedly called for israel to rethink its settlement policy on the west bank, and in berlin on thursday, netanyahu gave some cause to hope for movement in negotiations. >> the issue of the settlements -- while a component of the final negotiations from a final agreement, it would not be an obstacle to such a solution. >> that could bode well for the next meeting of the middle east quartet. that is set to take place in berlin next week. >> soccer news -- bundesliga -- they could be planning their next home game without spectators. german football association says it is requesting punishment after a linesman was hit by full cup of beer in st. paul lee's last game against schalke. e referee abandon the game after the incident and the match was later awarded to schalke two-year -- and failed to protect a linesman and now must play behind closed doors. the ruling is affected -- expected friday. thursday's of the com

the predictable but unintended consequence of convincing the palestinians that they would get a better deal than it by negotiating with israelis, americans standing by on the sideline of the un. perhaps the palestinians were less anxious to negotiate, particularly with prime minister netanyahu. at the same time, you think what was the impact on the mind of the israelis as they were negotiating. we have had some bad experience. when we pulled out of southern lebanon, iran quickly moved in and now rockets have been fired. rockets are being fired from gaza. if we pull out of the west bank, which just happens to nearly surround on three sides jerusalem and is within a stone's throw and the rockets launched from televisa, the recognize this could be very dangerous, existential in fact, to hand over the west bank. the only way we would consider something of that information is if we knew america was with us. if iran became active in a military way, america would always stand with israel. because of the lack of confidence in our commitment, even the israelis would have pulled back from the negotiating table. the consequence of not un

another new israeli secret services have allegedly kidnapped a suspected palestinian criminal in ukraine they claim has been assisting the hamas organization but care of officials are confused as to why they weren't allergic reactions have cast doubt on the children to see of the operation with the palestinian man deny all charges or to. investigate. several months ago get a new car and her husband palestinian engineer did i would see first from gaza to her native ukraine they were looking for a peaceful life far from the constant hostilities of the middle east do not even childes to leave behind a very good job with a political my husband was deputy director of the only power station in gaza and he's a very highly qualified engineer and received an immensely high salary by local standards for but their relief did not last long one evening up with the seaboard and overnight train from quite a few key here to meet his brother i was since he was sound asleep in the middle of the night two men walked into his compartment and asked him to provide his id the man refused to do so and the next

the palestinians and israelis are going to have to negotiate among themselves. [applause] and i think we should make this the last question, because i think you should get some food. i hate stand between an audience is lunch. >> what are your opinions about the reform of the tax code? and if you are in favor of it, can you tell us in what ways? and would you make it revenue neutral? >> yes, what i would like to do with spending and taxes would be to have a cap on federal spending as a percentage of our economy or of our gdp. the government has spent about 18.8% of gdp, and our taxes have been roughly at that level. 18% or 19%, whatever no. we agree on, and we say that the federal government is not going to spend more than that level korea that is number one. i am not looking for ways to have the highest income people pay the smallest share. i know there are some people who would like to do that, but i would like to find ways to simplify the tax code and make it more fair. how would you do that? there are some who advocate the fair tax which is a national sales-t

. >>> we have a very personal look today at the impasse between palestinian arabs and israeli jews.th the jerusalem hills, near the entrance to the city, are the remains of the former arab village of lifta. all of lifta's arab residents fled or were forced out during israel's war for independence in 1948. today, it's the only once-arab village in israel that has not been destroyed or resettled by jews. lifta's former arab residents want it back. the jerusalem government wants it developed for luxury housing. and some preservationists, on both sides, want it kept as a monument to what life there used to be. menachem daum is an american jew from brooklyn. he traveled to lifta recently to hear all sides of the story. >> i may have a family link to lifta. my uncle, meyer yosef, a member of the betar zionist youth, left poland for palestine in 1937. he joined the lehi militia, also known as the stern gang. he was my hero. while the rest of my family were victims during the holocaust, he was a fighter for the jewish people. >> he was convinced that israel was home. that's what he told his

israeli secret services have actually kidnapped a dangerous palestinian criminal in the ukraine they claim he's been assisting the militant organization a mass killer of officials. it says actions have cost doubt over the operation of the palestinian. several months ago and hugo and her husband palestinian engineer did i will see she fled from gaza to her native ukraine they were looking for a peaceful life far from the constant hostilities of the middle east you are even childes to leave behind a very good job with. my husband was deputy director of the only power station in gaza he's a very highly qualified engine year and received an immensely high salary by local standards. but their relieved did not last long one evening i will cease he boarded an overnight train from quite a few key here to meet his brother i will says he was sound asleep when in the middle of the night two men walked into his compartment and asked him to provide his id the man refused to do so and the next moment they handcuffed the palestinian and removed him from the train very close says she has no doubt it

we always hear, if we just can go back to the peace process and get the israelis and palestinians talkingthey did when you talk been -- itzyak rabin was on the scene. during the time we live there, the psychological landscape between the israelis and palestinians changed to such a degree. you need to come at the problem with a new perspective as to how both sides were changed. >> -- host: what did they not understand about the conflict that you think they should understand, given that you were on the ground? guest: the way these issues have become more difficult. the economies were very much integrated. israelis and palestinians could travel back and forth. every day, palestinians were like commuters. they would come to work in israel and go home at the end of the day. israel is would go to the west bank. there was economic integration to a degree. the kinds of segregation and divisions have become much more permanent and locked in place. these will be hard to reverse. you just cannot go back a decade and dust off the old plan. host: when you first arrive, was it that sparked the decline

and we have been urging both the israelis and the palestinians to get on with the business of actuallyiating. both of them, for their own reasons, have been somewhat concerned about proceeding in negotiations and laying out positions on very sensitive matters, even before the upheaval in the region. but it is absolutely clear now that with all of the uncertainty both are trying to analyze what this means for their future position. and so, i would hope-- and president obama has said that he will continue to press both sides, which is what we believe we have to do, that everyone would realize that negotiations are the only way, but more than that, they are an immediate need to return to because our assessment is that it is in the best interests of both the israelis and the palestinians, even in the midst of everything going on in the region to try to turn to the hard work of determining borders, determining the security requirements, and dealing with all the other issues that they have to face. >> rose: and it's this our national interest to see an agreement between the palestinians and

israelis and palestinians are both going to say this is great. thank you very much. ve a few comments. this is what the israelis did with the road map, 13 comments. where you will be left a week later, both sides will have said no, and that will make the president look weaker, and none of us benefit when the president of the united states looks weaker. i don't see how that leads to a peace agreement. it seems to me that we should be doing is saying to the pall pal- palestinians, if you want the state, build the state, build from the bottom up, build institutions, a lot of progress has been made. you need to continue that. israel has helped a lot. it needs to help more. the arab states need to help more. there's been a lot of progress who have losened things up in the west bank. we need to be very candid in saying to the palestinians, the way through the state is not through a partnership with terrorists groups. >> thank you, elliot. robert? >> many my last year of congress when arab diplomats would come to my office, they would more often than not start with how's the

some fourteen hundred palestinians and it's and israelis were killed during the turn of the campaign. for the ivory coast where red cross reports say the number of those killed during friday's clashes in the west of the country in the past few days has reached one thousand fierce fighting continues across the main city about the show of force is the world and un recognized the son i thought it was his rival the one. both sets of rival supporters now claim to have control of the country's capital the conflict comes off the but they refused to step down from the president saying. that this election which is why they should stay here last. and in kazakhstan residents have flocked to the polling stations to pass them for its early presidential election if expected to where only one can bring on this trip and less salt for. three candidates such challenges for him in the present well known public looked at his policies on the floor as a good national observers are seeing sunday's great and so has already come under criticism for a perceived battle made its first official results are expect

arrested for crimes he may not have committed the palestinian engineer waits his fate of an israeli prison even though he says he's innocent he was arrested in the middle of the night on a train traveling across ukraine and israeli intelligence agency mossad claims are seen as part of a militant organization but officials here are confused as to why they want to move to israel's actions have cost a long shot of downtown a dismissal from the pressure on the government terms of the suspects have to say an hour's time. the headlines for you in a few moments stay with us. live .

but arrested for crimes he may not have committed a palestinian engineer awaits his fate in an israeli prison even though he says he and the said he was arrested in the middle of the night on a train traveling up and also crying israeli intelligence agency mossad claims imo c.c.'s part of the militant organization hamas and that officials in kiev are confused as to why they want alerted there's no actions have count for a long shadow of doubt on the who didn't see the operation to find out what the relatives of the suspect have to say in an hour's time here on our t.v. . we're going to take a short break and i'll be back with a recap of the week's top stories in just a moment.

smart for the president of the united states to do what jimmy carter did, and fight the israelis and the palestinians't -- >> which president? >> obama. he met with the israeli prime minister and president. i think the president is ready to do it but wants to make sure that in the wake of such a meeting there will be direct negotiations and of the parties would agree for direct negotiations, in spite of the differences -- president carter invited mr. sadat and he was an exceptional statesman. i mean, he was the only arab leader who says i'm ready to make peace. what we have more sadats, then the president have more. but even now, i think the president is ready to make the necessary steps, provided that there won't be just a show, but in the wake of the meeting there would be direct negotiations between the two parties. he doesn't want to impose a solution. he really thinks, like all of us, the solution must result from an agreement but from and in position. and that's one of the reasons why i respect the president and believe he's trying to do the right thing and carefully not creating solutions and

palestinian state? but there are a lot of hypothetical in there. it would be reprehensible and wrong for the united states to receive -- to given to a request for that state. the israelis and palestinians will have to negotiate among themselves. we ought to make this the last question so that you can get some food. i hate standing between an audience and lunch. [laughter] >> what are your views about the reform the tax code? if you are in favor of it, can you tell us in what ways? would you make revenue neutral? would you use it as an opportunity to cut down the deficit? >> what i would like to do is have a cap on federal spending as a percentage of our gdp. the government has spent about 18.8% of gdp. our taxes have roughly been that level. take 19% or whatever # we agree on and say the federal government is not going to spend more than that level. how are we going to tax folks? i am not looking for ways to have the highest income people pay a smaller share of taxes. i know some people would like to do that. i do want to find ways to simplify the tax code and make it more fair. there are some who advocate a fair tax. that is a national sales tax to replace the income

israelis and palestinians are both going to say this is great. thank you very much. but just have a few comments. this is what the israelis did with the road map, 13 comments. where you will be left a week later, both sides will have said no, and that will make the president look weaker, and none of us benefit when the president of the united states looks weaker. i don't see how that leads to a peace agreement. it seems to me that we should be doing is saying to the pall pal- palestinians, if you want the state, build the state, build from the bottom up, build institutions, a lot of progress has been made. you need to continue that. israel has helped a lot. it needs to help more. the arab states need to help more. there's been a lot of progress who have losened things up in the west bank. we need to be very candid in saying to the palestinians, the way through the state is not through a partnership with terrorists groups. >> thank you, elliot. robert? >> many my last year of congress when arab diplomats would come to my office, they would more often than not start wit

there were 1700 documents of secret negotiations between israelis, palestinians, and the americans. we took a lot of heat for doing it. but we stuck to our guns. we faced our first challenge, which is what to withhold? what to do not put out there? we are under tremendous pressure by the british government to hold publication of an alleged mi officer to propose a sick rendition program to take mid- level home loss operatives and to in turn them with eu funding. this is a plan that is illegal under international law. we had a rigorous discussion inside about whether or not we disclose the individual's name. he was disclosed thatas a britih consul. it turned out that he was semi-6 -- it was mi-6. when you get rid of "my country to is of the" objection that all journalists want to have, it is a liberating feeling. we put it out there and guess what. the world cup turning. no one was hurt. the end of -- the world kept turning. no one was hurt. nigh.nd was not people do not benefit -- is not of any benefit to put the information out there if you do not explain to people why it matters. l

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the status quo between palestinians and israelis is no more sustainable than the political systems thatcrumbled in recent months. neither israel's featured will do -- and ignore the legitimate aspirations of palestinians can be secured without a to state solution. while it is a truce is -- truism that only the parties themselves can make the hard choices necessary for peace, there is no substitute for continued american leadership. the president and i are committed to that. we believe our concerns are shared by the people of the region. we will continue working closely with our partners, including many in this room tonight, to advance those mutual interests. will understand that a one-size- fits-all approach does not make sense. as i said before, the united states has specific relationships with countries. we have a decades-long friendship with bahrain but we expect to continue into the future. we have made clear that security alone cannot resolve the challenges facing them. violence is not the answer. a political process is one that advances the rights and aspirations of all the citize

israelis and palestinians are both going to say this is great. thank you very much. but just have a few comments. this is what the israelis did with the road map, 13 comments. where you will be left a week later, both sides will have said no, and that will make the president look weaker, and none of us benefit when the president of the united states looks weaker. i don't see how that leads to a peace agreement. it seems to me that we should be doing is saying to the pall pal- palestinians, if you want the state, build the state, build from the bottom up, build institutions, a lot of progress has been made. you need to continue that. israel has helped a lot. it needs to help more. the arab states need to help more. there's been a lot of progress who have losened things up in the west bank. we need to be very candid in saying to the palestinians, the way through the state is not through a partnership with terrorists groups. >> thank you, elliot. robert? >> many my last year of congress when arab diplomats would come to my office, they would more often than not start wit