one is -- was in fact the comment by papadopoulos the real predication? a pretext for a pre-existing desire to take a look at the trump campaign? he is looking at all o all of te issues. >> martha: you suggested that the conversation that they had come to that george papadopoulos had in the bar, the prediction r hillary clinton's emails coming out, was something simultaneously discussed in so many different venues at that time. publicly and privately. that it was really a very thin thread to go on, right? >> right. right. at the time of the comment made by papadopoulos that the russians might have something that they would drop in the public that was adverse to hillary, that was rampant during a period of rampant speculation in the media and political circles. it relates to the fact that a lot of people thought that the russians had probably hacked into hillary's home booth server as they call it. and may have had all of her emails, and therefore be in a position to drop them. that statement by itself had very little probative value. and to lead to the co

on hillary clinton and then they sent another guy from australia to talk to papadopoulos and papadopoulos says hey i understand that the russians have some information i need other eclipse and so that guy for must really because the f.b.i. says hey papadopoulos knows something because they just planted it in him so that's a classic. that's in a playbook of the cia well i don't put it up papadopoulos obviously did i doing anything that was illegal caught a page as we know at this show denies being a james bond i have to presume but as i say wiki leaks julian the son should normally doesn't comment on wiki leaks whistleblower of sources said the leaks about d.n.c. attempts to destroy the campaign of bernie sanders did not come from russia why is it continue to be repeated in your media more or less every day of the week the leaks was from russia ok because if we can't because they don't want to talk about the information that was revealed by wiki leaks so that's one thing you'll notice in the united states media they never talk about the contents of the wiki leaks revelations they only talk

and he told him, he told papadopoulos that the russians had dnc e-mails.os turns around and shares that information with an australian diplomat. and then the diplomat was pretty freaked out as you might imagine particularly when after having this conversation with papadopoulos the dnc hack becomes public in 2017. and so the australian diplomat basically passes the information to the fbi. that's the version of events in the mueller report. that's why the investigation started. there's a counter narrative pushed by papadopoulos himself and the right wing media and the president. and he claims the whole thing was a trap, it was a false flag. that the guy who told papadopoulos about the e-mails was actually an american deep state intelligence asset whose job was to try to entrap the trump campaign. and so despite all the evidence the trump-russia investigation was actually one big hoax orchestrated by an evil deep state out to get the president. under william barr's justice department there are believe it or not currently two separate investigations attempting

and alexander downer suggested a suggestion that involved former campaign advisor george papadopouloswas insinuated to the fbi, then may have been the fbi's idea all along. listen to the horowitz account. >> the fbi investigation that is the subject of this report crossfire hurricane was open july 31, 2016, days after the fbi received reporting from a friendly foreign government. the reporting stated in a may 2016 meeting with the friendly foreign government trump campaign advisor george papadopoulos suggested the trump team received some kind of a suggestion close quote from russia that could assist in the election process with the anonymous release of information during the cap pain that would be damaging to candidate clinton and then president obama. lou: can you imagine? and the doj inspector general declared a failure by the entire chain of command involved in the operation of crossfire hurricane. horowitz details the negligence and errors by those in the fbi, then claimed as he did in his report that he could not find any evidence of political bias whatsoever. apparently content

>> this is george papadopoulos. the foreign officials who heard him who couldn't remember exactly what he said but characterized as a suggestion of a suggestion. there had been a suggestion from the russians that they had an adverse reaction to hillary which they might dump in the campaign. >> martha: author of "deep state target," boy, what did you think about that, george, when the attorney general is basically saying that they went on the thinnest of conversations to begin this investigation? he makes it sound like he surprised that what he heard and read in that report would've launched this investigation. >> i think is absolutely right to be concerned about how allegedly a conversation i had with an australian diplomat named alexander downer who is a personal friend of bill and hillary clinton and australia's foreign minister funneled off harder and australian tax dollars to the clinton foundation was some sort of source for a rumor that had been circulating for months before i had this meeting with him in may,

and go speak to papadopoulos and try to get information.sation initial whether i george papadopoulos and ended up being something that was discussed with ambassador downer that was brought to the attention of the fbi in the summer and then we launched this whole investigation right after. it is still not clear to me what they are up to and who they are. because mueller said that mifsud worked for russia. really? we found him in italy. >> mifsud remains, he is the mysterious maltese professor, i mean there is some really odd characters in all of this. he remains a mystery. we don't know exactly why he was talking to george papadopoulos. why he lured essentially george papadopoulos with a speaking offer to come to italy to talk to them and how that whole thing happened. maybe durham will tell us more. maybe not. by the way, durham does not have a responsibility to write us a 400 page report like horowitz did. it's more like the robert mueller case. if you remember, mueller wrote a report but he really didn't have to. we'll see durham could in

the information papadopoulos gave downer was information fed to papadopoulos by a cia spy, joseph mifsud. to conclude as horowitz does that there was a legitimate basis for the counter-intelligence investigation, i don't know how horowitz can hold his head high. >> talking about the conduct speaks for itself. we overlooked investigations like this. you know what the fbi was supposed to do? they are supposed to go knock on george papadopoulos' door and say where did you get this information? how did you come about it? that's how a counter-intelligence investigation goes. not starting to investigate the american citizen. lou: attorney said gent inspector general's report, the inspector general's report makes clear the fbi launches an incruisive investigation of a u.s. presidential campaign on the thinnest of suspicions that in my view are insufficient to justify the steps taken. that is in attorney general speak, that's condemnation by any standard. what is to follow on here? we waited for this. we are now -- we want world war ii in under four years, right? we won a world war in less time

this information seems to get lost in the fbi bureau. >> laura: did you see papadopoulos said at one point three four three come i think, he said something like, when he was asked by one of the confidential human sources about russia, he said come i think we should be wary of russia. i mean come every time they tried to track him, he basically said well, we are worried about everybody interfering in the election, the trainees, the iranians, everyone. >> the information did not make it to the fbi. >> laura: johnny, final thought. comey is blasting bill barr tonight. we haven't got into what bill barr said but real quick. >> final thought. let's look at this 30,000-foot level. most likely what is to end up here, completely reject the fisa warrant surveillance tech to as intelligence gathering tool pair that will work to the detriment of national security for decades to come. it is because they played politics with it in an overt way that we will use an essential tool in national security. >> laura: it is disgusting, but this was illuminating. a phenomenal report coming up ig report lay

gregg: former fbi target and trump 2016 campaign advisor, george papadopoulos is here. he's look at his legal options. also horrific video of a 14-year-old being brutally beaten for allegedly wearing a maga hat. coming up, we'll play more of that vicious attack. but should president trump trust the so-called journalists who will moderate his 2020 debates? >> is the president thinking of stepping down? >> no, and i think that's a ridiculous question. >> pardon me ma'am. president trump: that's enough. >> mr. president, are you a racist? gregg: new reports president trump may skip out on the 2020 debates. with people likikikikik 1 in 5 people you meet wear dentures. yeah. that many! but right now, is not the time to talk about it. so when you're ready, search 'my denture care'. poligrip and polident. fixed. fresh. and just between us. male anchor: ...an update on the cat who captured our hearts. female anchor: how often should you clean your fridge? stay tuned to find out. male anchor: beats the odds at the box office to become a rare non-franchise hit. you can give help

they omitted two exculpatory statements come up or george papadopoulos. he spent two weeks in jail.ad when he was being sailed to surveilled, saying outright, noi interference, they just got thae of the trump campaign, russia. one omission after another, one lie after another. why lie about the sub source to get trumped? why lie about the true status of carter page, apparently helped undercover risking his life to help the cia, was fully cooperative at all points, ticket trump. why lie about unverified single source clinton bought and paid for, that dirty dossier for marsha? of course, ticket trump. why not how the court, the fisa court, that the clinton campaign paid for it, right up front, right in their grill, because you know they would have denied the application.n. you got the dirty dossier, you got omissions come exculpatory information withheld, circulate reporting, the surveillance of campaign officials, it was just there means to an end. here now, ranking member of the intel committee, congressman devin nunes along with ohio congressman jim jord

gregg: former fbi target and trump 2016 campaign advisor, george papadopoulos is here. he says he's look at his legal options. also horrific video of a 14-year-old being brutally beaten for allegedly wearing a maga hat. coming up, we'll play more of that vicious attack. but should president trump trust the so-called journalists who will moderate his 2020 debates? >> is the president thinking of stepping down? >> no, and i think that's a ridiculous question. >> pardon me ma'am. president trump: that's enough. >> mr. president, are you a racist? gregg: new reports president trump may skip out on the 2020 debates. with people like you just saw, i would. u.s. stock and etf trades. and, when you open a new fidelity brokerage account, your cash is automatically invested at a great rate -- that's 21 times more than schwab's. plus, fidelity's leading price improvement on trades saved investors hundreds of millions of dollars last year. that's why fidelity continues to lead the industry in value while our competition continues to talk. ♪ talk fidelity. ♪ talk (loud fan noise) (c

the story seems to change if the russians made papadopoulos a suggestion or offer.seems to know if certain russian agent and the start of the most prominent inc. counter intelligence human history? >> sean: that is all b.s. they were running this spy network. >> they could not get the spy network to investigate page and they use the dossier to reverse engineering, it is clear is that. >> sean: well said, rush limbaugh next. we will continue. ♪ ♪ (music building) experience the power of sanctuary at the lincoln wish list sales event. sign and drive off in a new lincoln with zero down, zero due at signing, and a complimentary first month's payment. ♪ >> sean: all right come on the radio show earlier today, america's anchorman rush limbaugh went off on the democrats for their impeachment sham, exposing exactly why they are putting the country through this misery after, oh, it 2.5 years of the treasure witch hunt misery, take a look. >> this is about the fact that 2016 election was a legitimate because the russians meddled in the 2020 election is going to be illegitimat

gregg: former fbi target and trump 2016 campaign advisor, george papadopoulos is here.s he's look at his legal options. also horrific video of a 14-year-old being brutally beaten for allegedly wearing a maga hat. coming up, we'll play more of that vicious attack. but should president trump trust the so-called journalists who will moderate his 2020 debates? >> is the president thinking of stepping down? >> no, and i think that's a ridiculous question. >> pardon me ma'am. president trump: that's enough. >> mr. president, are you a racist? gregg: new reports president trump may skip out on the 2020 debates. with people likikikikik (client's voice) remember that degree you got in taxation? (danny) of course you don't because you didn't! your job isn't doing hard work... ...it's making them do hard work... ...and getting paid for it. (vo) snap and sort your expenses to save over $4,600 at tax time. quickbooks. backing you. and my side super soft? with the sleep number 360 smart bed you can both adjust your comfort with your sleep number setting. so, can it help us fall aslee

we have talked a lot about page, briefly about papadopoulos. i don't want anyone to believe that anyone named the initial investigation has been convicted of being an agent of the russians. anybody associated with the trump campaign been charged with the crime of colluding with the russians? >> not that i know of. >> i think we would know by now. mr. papadopoulos was being surveilled by the fbi, is that correct? >> if you are talking about the confidential human source operations, yes. they consider but did not proceed to seek a fisa application. >> he was being wiretapped and he didn't know it. >> he was being -- an undercover operation, having a wire. >> he is talking to somebody that's got a wire. >> i just want to be careful. you do a wire, you think of a court order. >> trust me. this is done because they can do it. they can do it. they don't have to get anybody's permission. >> they need supervisory approval. >> page 3:30 one. i want you to know what papadopoulos said when he didn't know he was being wiretapped. no, we don't want to work

this poor guy, papadopoulos, picked by sam cloe vis to be part of the national security team. this team was picked up off the street. if you've had a photo with donald trump, you spent more time with donald trump than papadopoulos and page. they're not paid. they're volunteers. but the fbi thinks we need to watch these guys so manafort, as well as -- who's the other one? -- flynn. general flynn. they open up a counterintelligence investigation. let's assume for a moment that the small predicate you need has been met. what the hell happened after they open it up? what did they find? were there suspicions validated or did they find at every turn it's really not true and they ignored it? so one of the first things they tried to do was to get a warrant under the foreign intelligence surveillance act to follow carter page, a volunteer for the campaign and american citizen. they apply for the warrant internally in august of 2016 and the lawyers say, you don't have enough. why? because they had nothing. maybe this reasonable articulation is this small, but to get a warrant from a cou

papadopoulos reportedly stated. >> okay. your report does outline a number of problems with the fisa process as you've elaborated on. my question, particularly when it relates to questions from the chairman regarding carter page. my question is did the fisa errors affect the investigations, other three subjects in your analysis? >> we did not see information from the carter page events and the fisa is infecting the others, in fact, part of the concerns that we outline here is the lack of developing the information as to mr. page. so it wasn't developing, advancing the investigation precisely for the reasons we outlined here. and by definition, therefore not being of assistance or impacting the others. >> had no impact on the other investigations? >> as to the other three, we didn't see any connection between this and the others -- i'll say this caveat -- which is the papadopoulos information was being used in the page fisas. so the extent to which the page fisas were not advancing information as to mr. page, they arguably we

republican california congressional candidate, george papadopoulos. having read the i.g.eport, it's pretty clear, you were being spied on boulevard you even joined the trump candle pain. >> that was one of the most shocking elements of the i.g. investigation. i guess my name was brought up "in the investigation. were others spied upon. gregg: you were in ben carsons' campaign. >> the i.g. report states that others were being spied upon. gregg: have you ever talked to any russians. >> i never met a russian to this day. my theory is because indeed i had no russia contact whatsoever, they had to fabricate a russia story around me. gregg: you get set up with this nefarious professor character, joseph mifsud who feeds you a rumor that the russians have hillary clinton's emails and they use it in the campaign. i have secured the criminal codes and it's not a crime to hear a rumor. the fbi in their own guidelines have to have a reasonable basis to believe a crime has been committed in order to open the vest investigation on the trump -- open the investigation on the trump campai

when it says that the friendly foreign government approaches papadopoulos.gs the question because that is the only thing that horowitz starts to look at. but why? why would a friendly foreign government be approaching someone, withhold their respect, he's a very nice guy. but the trump campaign. why did that happen? and so, there is a lot more to come here. and it's going to involve brandon, it will involve clapper. >> sean: slow down. i see where this is going to my jason is i see powerful tools of intelligent turned on the american people as we said. but also, there are other layers involved here. that gets the papadopoulos, that gets to friendly western intelligence agencies. did they outsource illegally? spying on americans? may be a president or president-elect, candidate for the purpose of circumventing american law? do you think that might be part of the equation? >> follow the money. there are millions of dollars that came from the democrats that went overseas. whose pockets did that get into? i think it is a very legitimate question. it is not the o

nothing about papadopoulos. nothing about the other people that they thought might be working with the russians. why did they not tell him that? i hope you can give us an answer. bottom line, ladies and gentlemen, a counterintelligence investigation is a good thing until it becomes a bad thing. because it doesn't take much to open one, and the worst thing that can happen is for people to open one up whose real purpose is not to protect an american, but to surveil them. senator feinstein found herself in a situation all of us may one day find ourselves in. a long-time employee was suspected of having ties to a foreign government. they informed her and she took appropriate action. how easy would it be for somebody to come into our campaigns as a volunteer, you really don't know who they are. you just appreciate any help you could get. how easy would it be for all of us to get caught up in this scenario? i hope all of us would appreciate, if you really believe there's somebody in my campaign working with a foreign

i started saying george stephanopoulos but meant george papadopoulos papadopoulos. >> my apologies to george stephanopoulos if that's what i said. [laughter] >> i did want to provide some clarity. i think it's best to quickly exchange here. in a number of places, not just in this inspector general's report but also in the midyear exam, you have a similar statement -- i'm going to quote -- we did not find documentary or testimonial evidence, political bias or improper motivation influenced the decisions -- fill in the blank. this is a number of cases now. i know we talked earlier about your confident there's no political bias in the opening of the investigation with bill prestaff. >> we did not find evidence and as to him, we knew who made the decision, we could focus specifically on him. >> but you definitely -- both these investigations, you found political bias? >> we found through the text messages evidence of people's political bias, correct. >> also, political motivation, for example, bruce ohr talked about how christopher steele was desperate to make sure that the president trum

july 27th, fbi learns about papadopoulos intel. also the same day trump says, russia if you're listening. july 31st, opens investigation into the trump campaign. here's what i'm confused about. did the fbi share the rest of that timeline as part of the predicate? or was it just the papadopoulos thing that was used as the predicate? because i don't understand the attorney general's view given all of this that was taking place into the run-up of the opening of the investigation. >> it's just the papadopoulos statement from the australians. and as -- as the inspector general characterized it in his report, it was conveyed to the fbi as a suggestion of a suggestion that russia was going to be able to offer this. now, of course, it's in the context of the fbi's knowing that the russians are hacking into the democratic computers. so that's the -- that's the two plus two here. i think what the attorney general is saying is -- and by the way, horowitz says in his report. followed the rules. question, he says, are the rules right? is the pr

we know george papadopoulos was told, go to rome, beat joseph misfud and choice of mitzvot drop thisb on his lap that he has hillary clinton's emails. there was a lot of informants, the same informants, spies, that have worked for the fbi and the cia over years, western intel. those are the spies that were running into anybody they could who was remotely attached to the trump campaign, as you said earlier, just to get a window into trump strategy. the lies are real. people will be prosecuted. and you are looking at crimes, not only against carter page, but against a sitting president, duly elected, i should say. >> sean: maria, what's amazing to me, and all that is, is that there were a few of us that were right. you are on the fox business network and you are here on weekends with us on the fox news channel. it was you, lou dobbs, stuart varney, all three of you have done a phenomenal job in exposing this. where's the rest of our colleagues in a so-called media here? >> i think this is a really important point because the left-wing media has become an attachment, an arm of the democ

gregg: former fbi target and trump 2016 campaign advisor, george papadopoulos is here. he says he's look at his legal options. also horrific video of a 14-year-old being brutally beaten for allegedly wearing a maga hat. coming up, we'll play more of that vicious attack. but should president trump trust the so-called journalists who will moderate his 2020 debates? >> is the president thinking of stepping down? >> no, and i think that's a ridiculous question. >> pardon me ma'am. president trump: that's enough. >> mr. president, are you a racist? gregg: new reports president trump may skip out on the 2020 debates. debates. with people likikikikik debates. with people likikikikik i can't believe it. that sophie opened up a wormhole through time? (speaking japanese) where am i? (woman speaking french) are you crazy/nuts? cyclist: pip! pip! (woman speaking french) i'm here, look at me. it's completely your fault. (man speaking french) ok? it's me. it's my fault? no, i can't believe how easy it was to save hundreds of dollars on my car insurance with geico. (pterodactyl screec

for example initiated the contact stefan helper when george papadopoulos january 6 intelligence briefing given to john james comey and clapper orchestrated to have a justification of the steel dossier? the fact the involvement of others outside the justice department is murky after an 18 month long inspector general investigation is not criticism of his work but speaks to the statutory limitation of inspectors general that should be evaluated and assessed for reform another question to be asked who will be held accountable? during his investigation of the handling of the clinton e-mail scandal inspector general had a treasure trove of unvarnished evidence of bias between peter strock and lisa page and others if not for the discovery of those text would we even be here today reviewing the ig investigation of these abuses of prosecutorial power? i have my doubts officials involved had plenty of time to rehearse their answers to the question or excuse for example on significant issues andrew mccabe told investigators 26 times he did not recall some of those involved claim vindication as a r

papadopoulos in may. sen. feinstein: who was the friendly foreign government? mr. horowitz: we don't mention that in the report. sen. feinstein: is that classified? mr. horowitz: my understanding is still classified, but as i sit here i will only speak to the report. sen. feinstein: go ahead. mr. horowitz: and as i mentioned wasy statement, the comment that mr. papadopoulos had made a suggestion that there had been a suggestion to the trump campaign that the russian government could provide information that would be damaging to candidate clinton, and then-president obama. sen. feinstein: so your report states you didn't find documentary or testimonial evidence that political bias or improper motivation played a role? mr. horowitz: that's correct. sen. feinstein: thank you. and you didn't find a "deep state conspiracy" against candidate or president trump? mr. horowitz: we found no documentary or testimonial evidence on that. noted, thed, as decision-maker, we did not find any information in his emails or texts of having engaged in or having any bias. sen. feinstein

>> this is george papadopoulos. and this was described by the foreign officials who heard him as -- who couldn't remember exactly what was said. but it was characterized as a suggestion of a suggestion. he suggested that there has been a suggestion from the russians that they had some adverse information to hillary, which they might dump in the campaign. but what was going on in may? you may recall that we were in the thick of the investigation of hillary clinton's secret server. and the media was full of stories. and the blogosphere was full of stories. and political stories in washington were full of stories and speculation that the russians had, in 2014, two years before, hacked into her secret server. and were, therefore, in a position to drop this stuff during the election. in fact, the day before this comment was made, in a bar, fox news was reporting that their sources told them there was a debate going on in the russian government as to whether or not to drop this hillary clinton emails between the intellige

in which downer said papadopoulos told him the russian government could assist the trump campaign withging information about democratic presidential candidate hillary clinton. with that information the investigation launched. the gears were then in motion and the question had been planted. were individuals with the trump campaign coordinating with the russian government in its interference activities. >> paul manafort has resigned as campaign chairman of the controversy over some consulting work. >> the days after his victory donald trump began -- >> decision day for donald trump, the president-elect makes his first major national security pitch delighted conservatives and enraging democrats. >> early december 2016 one of those choices, new national security adviser michael flynn, met with trump's son-in-law jared kushner at trump tower. they later exchange texts and phone calls amid the obama administration decisions to impose sanction and russia in retaliation for hacking the dnc. donald trump raised vladimir putin's decision to not retaliate tweeting i always knew he was very smart.

investigation after being told by australia, a trusted foreign ally, that trump advisor george papadopoulos had learned in 2016 the month of april that russia had and was willing to release, quote, information during the campaign that would be damaging to candidate clinton, end quote. the ig report found that, quote, this information provided the fbi with the factual basis that if true, quote, indicated activity constituting either a federal crime or a threat to national security or both may have occurred or may be occurring. the ig also found that when the fbi learned that in late july 2016, the bureau was aware of russian efforts to interfere in the 2016 elections, including russian hacking of democratic campaign computers, materials stolen by russia had been released on-line, included by wikileaks, and the u.s. intelligence community assessed in august of 2016 that, quote, russia was considering further intelligence operations to impact and disrupt elections, end quote. against this backdrop, the fbi was obligated to investigate possible ties to the trump campaign. according to bill -- t

the diplomat concluded that oh, that must be what papadopoulos had in mind. paul: is that adequate predication as mr. horowitz said to start a counterintelligence probe against the presidential campaign? >> that depends on what's in the mind of the people who have the information and what else they know, and i can't tell that at this point. paul: right. >> we do know that prior to that in what's been characterized as early or late june, james comey, briefed the national security council, which were senior security people on what he called the page information, relating to carter page. he briefed the attorney general. he briefed others. and they considered giving a warning, a warning briefing to the trump campaign and decided -- apparently decided not to. they never did it. paul: that's appalling to me because if you do think that there is somebody in the campaign who is compromised, wouldn't you want the candidate to know about that? >> right. paul: unless you think the candidate himself is some kind of a candidate, and a double agent, which is a whole differ

papadopoulos in may. >> who was the friendly government? don't mention that in the report. >> is that classified? >> my understanding is still classified but -- >> thank you. >> as i sit here i will only speak to what's in our report. >> go ahead. >> as i mentioned in my statement, the comment was that mr. papadopoulos had made a suggestion that there had been a suggestion to the trump campaign that the russian government could provide information that would be damaging to candidate clinton and then president obama. >> so your report states that you didn't find documentary or testimonial evidence that political bias or improper motivation played a role. >> that's correct. >> and you didn't find a deep state conspiracy against candidate or president trump. >> as to the opening we found no bias, no testimonial or documentary evidence on that. >> no rationale for a deep state. >> we looked at mr. precept was the decision maker and we didn't find any evidence in his email or texts of having engaged in any bias or having any bias. >> f.b.i. dire

in the course of your investigation, you ever find out how george papadopoulos was put in touch with massoud, helper or trick ? >> that was on something that was in the scope of our review. if we would have seen something in fbi records, about that, we would have assessed it but we will focused as i said in my opening statement. >> we did not find anything that would connect all of that from epi side of the information card is >> according to james coleman, may 28th in the washington post, joseph massoud, at the time was a quote russian agent. and again did you find anything in the fbi documents that would support james gomez conclusion about that. >> ought to be careful not because i think my answered either way, i might be touching on information i'm not sure i can speak to. in this setting. let me be clear we have certainly would've looked to see with the fbi - >> will follow-up in a different setting. did you ever determine why on april 1st 2016, fbi headquarters directed fbi news new york field office open counterintelligence initiation on her page. did you ever get to the botto

liz: we're talking prior to july 2016, you know, we don't know when -- i mean george papadopoulos rumor think came about that he heard that, you know, that there were wikileaks had basically you know the hilary clinton e-mails in may of 2016. how deep and how far back do you think this goes? >> you know, i don't think we know yet. but i think it's important and fortunately mr. durham is taking the right action. we need to uncover everything. again, we have a couple of people that acted inappropriately, but let's go back and make sure we know exactly what happened and when so that way connect ensure it never happens again. god forbid a u.s. president should ever have to deal with such issues. liz: you know, former fbi lawyer, also inserted the words carter page not a source when he was working with the cia, the fbi, was effectively fined, carter page already working with the cia. i want to get to this, your reaction to the media saying, you know, criticizing william barr saying they were spying on the trump campaign. william barr is now saying we've got an irresponsible press, hyping a b

10th, 2016, the team opened separate counter intelligence cases on page, manafort, and george papadopoulos, under code famous assigned by the fbi. six days later on august 16th, a counter intelligence case was opened on flynn under another code name assigned by the fbi. each case was designated as a sensitive investigative matter because the individual subjects were believed to be prominent in a domestic political campaign. inspector general explains the predicate information quote the opening electronic communication, the opening statement for the flynn investigation stated that there was an articulable factual basis that flynn may have been involved in tvractivity on beha of the russian federation. the document cross referenced predication to cross fire hurricane investigation and stated that flynn was an adviser to the trump campaign who had various ties to state affiliated entities of russia and who traveled to russia in december 2015. that's what the fbi did when it opened its investigation into flynn. was there anything wrong with them opening that investigation into flynn? the inspe

and there had some talk about the person that supposedly had told papadopoulos. gets a little complicated, a professor named joseph massoud, was he really a representative of the russians or was he fed up by u.s. intelligence agencies to entrap or embroil donald trump and supposedly told him i had no information to that regard so at this point, it appears the launching of the investigation in the first place was legitimate, there seem to have been more questions about that than getting the fisa warrant to surveilled carter page but remember when that happen, that was in october of 2016 and carter page was no longer a member of the trump campaign. >> horowitz apparently we reported in fox news and foxnews.com, forwarded evidence at this fbi lawyer manipulated key investigative documents related to the secret of surveillance of carter page. why is that important? the question then goes to the attorneys who was been referred to as a criminal matter, who told the attorney to change the language and that in itself is a critical question to figure out what is next. >>