kit lead the psychosis but post partum. if anybody has a previous disorder of bipolar, they may be at risk. about visit% have no history of their own. so it is something that come on very suddenly. in my experience, having worked in a psychiatric hospital for 20 years, they are some of the wildest, most difficult to treat psychotic patients. and i was reading about it. one of the thing that caught my attention, a sense of bewilderment among these people. when they're in the state, they can't make sense of things. you get a essential of how biological it is. >> how tragic the ending to this story is. now, i know it is so hard to say. obviously with the schizophrenia and the bipolar disorders which we're hearing reports, also were diagnosed. >> no. i think those medications are used for all kinds of psychotic illness, amongst them, depression, bipolar and schizophrenic. >> so it might have been one or more than one. let me ask but the paranoid delusions that her boyfriend had reported that she was experiencing. delusions of h

. >> there has something called post partum psychosis where you lose connection. >> reporter: now carey's friends and families are struggling for answers. one of carey's childhood friends said the last time she saw her, she was okay. there will be an internal investigation into yesterday's car chase and shooting. they will question whether miriam carey's car was considered a weapon and a threat that needed to be contained. >> with all that action there's very little movement inside when it comes to the shutdown. frustration is starting to mount. moderate republicans could quarterback a petition that could fund the government and and the standstill. both sides are blaming one another. >> now the president continues to refuse to sit down with us republicans, and, sadly, that is a hall mark of his presidency. >> i said i am happy to have neshations with the republicans and speaker boehner on a whole range of issues, but we can't do it with a gun held to the head of the american people hour markets are just a mess. there's no certainty that cloning will come together to -- congress will come

we're really looking at the symptoms that would be more indicative of post partum psychosis, hearing voices, having hallucinations, having very dramatic delusions. and those would be treatby psychotropic medications. >> these are people who like in lori jane's report who occasionally appear in washington, d.c. is this city a magnet for some type of personalities or why? >> when i started working at st. elizabeth back in 1985, we saw archived articles talking about this phenomenon 50 years before that back in the '20s around '30s. this is a well-known phenomenon that applies to a few other cities that have religious significance around the world. >> what other world? >> one is jerusalem, there is a psychiatric term called jerusalem, because of the religious symbolic importance. think of it this way joie, if you are as a individual having psychotic dilutions or psychotic symptoms where you can't really understand exactly what's going on and you know other people aren't experiencing this, you sit back and think to yourself what's going on here? now if your dilution is of a religious ben

experiencing paranoia and delusions, it sounds like a very, very rare condition called post partum psychosis. that's a medical emergency. the baby can be in danger. the mom has no touch with reality. we need to know more about her medical background to know if that was what was going on. >> in the meantime, rich, this reignited an important conversation in america, about post partum depression, which is far more common. >> yes. this is very important. we need to make it easier to talk about this. one in 2e7b women experience post partum depression as a pediatrician i've seen this frequently. the symptoms are common. there is no enjoyment in the baby or in anything else. there is anxiety something bad could happen to your baby. then there is overwhelming guilt about being a bad mom. if you have this, or you know someone who does, you really want to reach out, because there's treatment that's available. you don't need to endure this. >> rich besser with us from the west coast. thank you. we move on to that other crisis in washington. the government shutdown now in it's fourth day. president ob

mother of a 1-year-old in the car when her mother was shot to death, was suffering from post partum psychosist to update our viewers on cnn's obama care live sign-up event today. it happened during situation room with wolf blitzer. he had three young people on the show trying to sign up for insurance. and they were unsuccessful during the show which runs 90 minutes. and we wanted to let you know, one woman was able to purchase her insurance shortly after wolf went on the air. she is 29 years old and self-employed. the bottom line is she said the insurance she was able to buy was cheaper than the plans she previously had. the other two obviously still unsuccessful at this point. our fifth story, is someone lying? last night on this show, we told you that democratic senator dick durbin said that a top house republican leader told president obama, quote, i cannot even stand to look at you. during negotiations over the government shutdown. the white house saying what's going snow. >> attributed to the lawmaker. was not accurate. but there was a miscommunication in the readout of that meeting. bet

she had a baby and she did suffer from post-partum depression with psychosis. >> the family is upset how that the police handled the situation, given that she did not have a weapon in the car and had her child in the car. her sister was an nypd officer and remembered a chase. >> it was a high speed chase in a highly populated area in brooklyn and not once did we think of taking out our gun. the suspect was apprehended and placed under arrest. >> the family said they still have not been notified officially of her death, just asked to identify her body through a picture. between shootings and the government shutdown, it has been a the tough couple of weeks in washington, yet there was another incident today, a man set himself on fire on the national mall. he was conscious and breathing when first responders arrived, he does have life threatening injuries. >> new days on the government shutdown and a impact on a critical need for blood here in the bay area. the blood center has an o negative and b negative blood shortage, a blood drive that was aimed to mountain view could have filled t

. >> i just know that my sister did experience post-partum depression with psychosis, they labeled it, which came along with treatment of medication and counseling, which she did. and she had her challenges with that. >> reporter: and carey's former boss, dentive evans, fired her from her job as a dental hygienist abouta a year ago. >> we thought she was a great employee while she was here. she had an accident, fell and had a head injury so she was out for just a bit. she found out she was pregnant during that time that she was hospitalized and, you know, when she came back, just-- she was here a few weeks later, and then we just decided that it was time for her to go. >> reporter: now, investigators don't know why carey went to the white house on thursday but she seemed to be on some kind of a mission. sources say the traffic records indicate, scott, that she drove with the baby directly from connecticut to washington. >> pelley: bork thank you. we also understand that the child is still in the custody of the child welfare department. thank you. we also don't know why a man set himse

she was diagnosed with post partum depression with psychosis and was on medication. >> the sisters area registered nurse and valerie is a retired nypd sergeant. >> officers had enough time to assess the occupants of the vehicle, and they took somebody's life. >> one in ten william will experience the post partum depression. >> mental illness really should have more attention. >> sources say that last year the father of kari's daughter called police, reportedly out of concern over her claims that president obama placed her house under electronic surveillance. something her sisters say they never heard her talk about. they want to shine a light on her illness. >> if there was something you could say to her right now, what would you say? >> we wish you were here. >> attempts to reach police in washington for comment today were unsuccessful. officials previously said that irks leading to the shooting remand under investigation. we have new video from an attack in a shopping mall today in kenya. it shows four attackers. they're walking into a shopping complex with machine guns. they took pl

she said carey sought treatment after being diagnosed with post partum depression and psychosis.isten. >> how has that manifested in her life? was that something you saw in her life? >> no. it wasn't something displayed. it was a momentary breakdown when she had to go and have emergency care. once she understood the diagnosis, she knew how to move forward. she had challenges as a new parent. i am a parent. i have two children. just like anyone else she had questions. we dealt with that as a family. there was nothing out of the ordinary. >> did she seem in recent days to be off medication or unstable? >> no, she didn't appear to be unstable. >> the care she got when she had the psychosis and the the depression, how long ago was that? do you know? >> the diagnosis came a little bit after her birth of the daughter. >> her daughter is about a year old, is that correct? her daughter is a year. she's 1-year-old. i did recently ask her about the medication. i talked to her often about that. she told me that the doctors told her she didn't need the medication anymore because the plan was

. >> the sisters said miriam carey was diagnosed with post partum psychosis after her daughter was born reportedly told police last december that carey thought president obama had her under surveillance. >>> well, police in new york say two bikers seen on video attacking an suv last weekend have now turned themselves in. one is believed to be that man right there you see taking his helmet, bashing it against the suv. he then beat the driver. the other man is accused of going after the suv. cnn is reporting that an off- duty police officer was also among those bikers and that he reportedly did not tell his superiors about what he saw until four days later. that officer is now under investigation. the bikers are calling for the driver to be charged, after he ran over some of them to get away. . >>> we're just five days away from the end of the 60-day cooling-off period in the bart labor dispute. both sides say they have made progress on the issue of pensions. however, salaries and health benefits remain the main sticking points. unions want a three-year deal. bart says it's looking for a

carey say after giving birth to her daughter she was diagnosed with post partum depression with psychosisut her on medication but she was reevently reducing it under her doctor's care. last year her boyfriend called police twice claiming carey was acting irrational and putting their infant daughter in danger. when police showed up carey said president obama had placed her town on lockdown and order erred her home electronically monitored. investigators now believe she was delusional. the associated press reports cops found medication in her apartment used for bipolar disorder and schizophrenia but the family say carey never appeared unstable. they are questioning the use of deadly force against her. >> why was my sister shot and killed with her 1-year-old daughter in the car and she was unarmed? why? my mother deserves to know why. >> joining me now amy carey joe jones and valerie carey. valerie, that was you in the sound bite asking questions of the police. given what we saw last week with her erratic driving and threatening officers -- at least that's how it was reported -- why do you h

the sister sat down with anderson cooper and says that miriam did experience post-partum depression with psychosis had a momentary breakdown and she did undergo treatment, both medications but also counseling as well. we want to clarify something. that is when authorities searched her stamford, connecticut home, what they found was discharge papers from a mental health evaluation back in december. on those discharge papers, there were actually prescriptions for medication to treat both schizophrenia, bipolar disorder as well as a prescription for an antidepressant. so clearly, something was going on. we spoke to a source who said that in fact, the boyfriend had been questioned by police because he had called police saying that she was acting delusionally, that she thought that president obama was electronically surveilling her house, had put her town on lockdown, and so he notified police because he felt that the baby who at the time was 4 months old, was in danger. so clearly, there was something going on. what they're investigating now is why carey felt a need to go to the white house. what was

law enforcement tells nbc news she was diagnosed with psychosis and post partum depression. she was off her medicine and wasn't aware of where she was. sources also say carey may have thought president obama was stalking her. for more on what police found in her connecticut apartment today, we go to nbcs abbi. >> reporter: police just wrapped up their search in miriam's apartment. they did take out evidence, including a computer. they are hoping somewhere in all of that there are answers as to what led this connecticut mother to go on a dangerous rampage. authorities swarmed the apartment yesterday afternoon after the connecticut plates traced back to the address. the hazmat crews were here and bomb squad was here. the search spanning 16 hours. all residents had to be forced out. the street turning into a crime scene, a lockdown situation. the people who lived here were allowed back on scene this morning, back inside, including some of her neighbors who are in shock she could be capable of something like this. >> you don't believe that something this huge could be sleeping o

shooter miriam carey says she was treated for post partum depression with psychosis but she was not delusional. they are still trying to put the pieces together of exactly what happened in the nation's capitol. miriam carey drove her car into a white house barricade before leading police on a chase to the capitol. she was then shot and killed. her 1-year-old was still in the car. the 1-year-old was okay, not shot. her sisters talked to anderson cooper about her initial diagnosis. >> it wasn't something displayed. it was a momentary breakdown when she had to have emergency care. once she understood the diagnosis, she moved the forward. she had her challenges as a new parent. i am a parent. i have two children. she had questions. we dealt with that as a family. but there was nothing out of the ordinary. >> did she seem in recent days to be off medication or unstable? >> no. she didn't appear to be unstable. >> the care she got when she had the psychosis and the the depression, how long ago was that? >> the diagnosis came a little after the birth of her daughter. >> and her daughter is about a ye

partum depression. >> it sounded like postpartum psychosis. just terrible. very serious. >>> 5:00 minutes past the hour. >>> now to the do nothing government. day four of the shutdown and no immediate end in sight. you see the classwork the clock in the corner. that is how long this has been going on. boehner says he won't allow a default when the debt ceiling votes hits in less than two weeks. we are going to get more from cnn's brianna keilar. >> reporter: with the government partially shut down and the united states careening towards defaulting on its debts in mid october, house speaker john boehner made a key admission about the debt ceiling. a republican who spoke to cnn after a private meeting with house gop members said boehner informed them he will not allow a default to happen even if it means relying on votes from democrats. >> i'm all wired up here. >> reporter: in a city that lives for an open mike moment to pull back the curtain. >> we are willing to compromise and willing to negotiate. >> reporter: mitch mcconnoll and rand paul delivered. >> i

she was on psychosis medication and recently off and also post partum medication. she fell a couple of years ago a month before her pregnancy and after that increasingly was acting erratic. she would be holding her infant and wondering around unsure of where she was at. her former employer, dr. barry wise said she was increase will go i stressed out and the pregnancy was unplanned. as for 1-year-old girl, she's in child protective services. the family is trying to get temporary custody of her to figure out a longer term plan. >> katy, i don't know if you have much more about the child. we're at nearly 24 hours and you have a father and next of kin here. any clear idea of why the baby is still in protective custody and not with the extended family? >> reporter: there's not a clear picture about that right now. i know in d.c., the transfer could be happening at any moment. we're not sure how close the father was to miriam or to his daughter. i'm assuming it's all getting worked out and in the process of the investigation right now. but there's no real clear picture a

partum drugs were being graduallly reduced. i just now that my sister did an experienced post pardon depression with a psychosis. they labeled it which came along with treatment medication and counseling which she did and she had her challenges with that. carey's sisters question why police resorted to lethal force. the 34-year-old carey was a dental hygenist. her daughter was rescued from her car and put in protective custody. another scary incident today in washington drew emergency crews to the national mall. witnesses say a man dumped a can of gasoline over his head and set himself on fire. police would not confirm that he set himself on fire. joggers stopped and used their shirts to douse the flames. the man was airlifted to a hospital in critical condition with life-threatening injuries. day four of the government shutdown and all sorts of grandstanding by both sides. republicans blamming the president and congressional democrats saying the g-o-p might drop their opposition to the president's health care law if he'd be willing to negotiate over special breaks and subsidies handed out since the law was pass