pat toomey stood up there -- i am sorry, patriot pat toomey, i want to give him his propers. they are going to use $400 million to spend on that. that is nonsense. the overseas contingency operations fund, $60 million, $70 million, every year on top of 500, 600, $700 million. >> barbaric. >> and now they're going to go away. pat toomey says i have veterans groups behind me. i call bs. wounded warriors, dav, they are all here. this is the veterans community senator. they don't stand behind you, in fact, you won't let them stand in front of you. cowards, all of them. cowards, all of them. and now they say this will get done. maybe after we get back from some of -- from our summer recess, because they are on senate time. senate time is ridiculous. these guys live to 200. they are tortoises. they live for ever and they never lose their jobs and they never lose their benefits and they never lose anything. they are not on senate time, they are on human time, cancer time. don't you have families? don't you have people? people who are deciding how to live their last moments? they spe

does pat toomey have a point here? >> pat toomey is going to get an amendment. he'll have a vote on that. pat, come on, let's go. let's put it out there, put the facts out there. pat is a good man, good friend of mine, i'm sorry he won't be running again, he's leaving the senate, he's been a quatyr o th represented pennsylvania extremely well. he's been a friend. we're going to work through this. i haven't seen the amendment. i'll be briefed tomorrow morning on it and everything. but pat's going to get his amendment and let's see where it goes. >> on that, senator joe manchin, thank you for being with us. "face the nation" will be back in a moment. stay with us. so your camera cae in the dark with night sight fix your photos with magic eraser photograph all skin tones accurately with real tone and last up to 72 hours with extreme battery saver it's all you want in a phone. google pixel 6a switch it up, and get the all new google pixel 6a. so, you're 45. that's the perfect age to see some old friends, explore new worlds, and to start screening for colon cancer. y

it should say patriot pat toomey.n moniker. >> so his amendment is the one we're talking about, this is all held up over he says -- his amendment addresses how this $400 billion can be spent. he says as it's unrelated, the money can be used for things not for veterans. >> that's nonsense. the v.a. secretary still has to go in every year and explain the appropriation and the use. and the spending of the money is related to the bill. it's not a slush fund. but if you want to talk about slush funds, if senator toomey wants to explain his fiscal conservatism, why it is that he voted, you know, every year we vote for what's called the oco, a $70 billion fund that goes on top of the $600 billion or $700 billion that the pentagon already gets. and it's unaccountable. there are no guard rails. it truly can be spent on pretty much whatever they want to spend it on it. toomey's never raised a peep about it. never raised his hand. he's never objected. he's never held up the defense bill because of it. and the fund is the hit ral

pat toomey stood up there patriot pat toomey, i'm sorry, i want to give him his propers. i want to make sure i give him his propers. patriot pat toomey stood on the floor, this is a slush fund, they're going to use $400 billion to spend on whatever they want. that's nonsense. i call bullshit. this isn't a slush fund. you know what's a slush fund, the o.c. o., the overseas contingency operations fund, $60 billion, $70 billion, every year on top of $500 billion, $600 billion, $700 billion of the defense budget, that's a slush fund, unaccountable, no guard rails. did pat pooly stand up and say this irresponsible, the guard rails, no. not one of them did. they vote for it year after year after year. you don't support the troops, you support the war machine. that's all you care about. >> he personally signed the proclamation to send me to war. >> they haven't met a war they won't sign up for and they haven't met a veteran they won't screw over. what the fuck are we? >> barbaric. >> barbaric. >> and now they're going to go away. pat toomey says, i got veterans groups behind me.

now, pat toomey doesn't want to have a vote. they have offered his amendment which is a poison pill amendment. they have offered a vote at the thing same threshold and what pat toomey is saying, no, no, no, i want unanimous consent just in the bill. >> while they are doing this, veterans with cancer are sick and some are dying. what are you hearing from them? >> it is heartbreaking. it is utterly heartbreaking. a lot of these folks are already living in three month increments. basically, they live from scan to scan. they get a good scan and that is three months that i'm going to feel pretty good about myself and maybe go through my treatments until the next scan. the idea that the senate is so removed from the day today real lives of their constituents and those that they purport to honor. remember, these are veterans. this is a community where they stand and wave the flag and they support the troops but when it comes down to it, they betrayed them. this is a betrayal. this bill passed the house and it passed the senate. there w

to go on an unrelated $400 billion spending spree is wrong and we shouldn't allow it. >> senator pat toomeys so much for your time. really appreciate it. >>> here with me now to offer his perspective is the secretary of the department of affairs. you just heard senator toomey arguing that the way this bill is structured could open the door to unrelated spending abuses by the va. >> you know, jake, if you look in the bill for $400 billion that he's talking about, you won't see it. you would have to go deep into some charts at the back of the cbo report about -- to find that. why is that fund in the bill? the fund is in the bill so that we can ensure, as you suggested, that all the spending for this program is for the veterans exposed to these toxins. and so he says it won't impact our programming. in good conscience i don't see that to be the case. in fact, it puts a year-on-year cap on what we spend and then at the end of ten years the fund goes away under his amendment. so the impact of that would be if we -- if his estimations are wrong about what we'll spend in any given year, that means

they are the ones who are going to decide if trump is the nominee, not mitch mcconnell or pat toomey.here is -- trump is losing some support among his base based on what i'm hearing because of these hearings, but it's not because they disapprove of trump's behavior, they just think this is going to make it more difficult for trump to win in '24. >> we should point out a -- pat toomey isn't running for reelection, right? he has -- he voted to impeach trump. he has the latitude to go out on a limb and say this. it's not even going out on a limb for him. so does it matter, though, if republicans are talking privately and they're not coming out publicly? does that even matter as long as they're sort of saying, oh, this guy is kind of weak? >> brianna, i have to watch my language and, john, i can't say what i really want to say. i am so damn sick of republicans talking privately or anonymously. none of that stuff matters. i mean, look at 26-year-old cassidy hutchinson, look at what she's done this week. i mean, five years ago i came out and publicly called out trump and if i had a dollar f

i think pat toomey has some reasons to do with budget policy and that is one thing, but if the votesuse mitch mcconnell said we need to screw somebody, that would be terrible. judy: jonathan, what you say about the so-called burn pits legislation? jonathan: in a word it is appalling. to what david was talking about, just in june, this bill passed out of the senate with 84 votes. 84 went to the house. e house made a min change and that's why it was back in the senate for a vote. 25 republicans who had voted for it in june after senator pat toomey worked on them, opted to vote against the bill. pat toomey's arcane problem was finding was being moved from discretionary within the bill to mandatory. he was calling it a budget gimmick. you know who doesn't care whether it is a budget gimmick? those families jon stewart was talking about. the veterans who worked in the burn pits and are suffering the ailments. the families of those veterans who are sick and/or have died. it is their families who are dealing with the financial burdens of jon stewart was talking about. they could not care le

pat toomey took orders from mitch mcconnell.ands if not millions of veterans are now going to pay the price. many of them are going to die waiting. i'm trying not to show emotions today, andrea. if you want to bleep me, that's fine. but my heart breaks for those veterans. on june 16, we won. we passed the bill 84-14. for them to do this now and then say they are going to go on their vacation and then come back and we will get it done, that's cruel. jon said he is used to a lot of things but not the cruelty. i'm used to the cruelty. i don't have to put up with it. america doesn't have to put up with it. we are going to scorch the earth. we're going to -- 41 of those -- 25 of those 41 people voted yes on june 16. they fell in line and they all -- many of them are veterans. they all voted against this. they have no reason why. they are going to feel the pain, the suffering. we're going to make their life miserable. we are human beings. those men and women who stood out there today in the heat with oxygen tanks and cancer while the

i don't think most people know who pat toomey is. and not in the media much and he's the perfect guy to put it on until fetterman in the fall. a lot hope you won't notice and that you're not paying attention and you'll think the democrats are making something out of nothing here. every major veterans group, the dov, and many of them that lean right have been out in front of this and have been supporting this and i believe six republicans also supported this, so i think we have to make him famous and ted cruz is a great example. ted cruz, i mean, his brand equals cowardice and time and time again he shows us that he doesn't give a damn about everybody and i'm baffled that texas can't find anybody better than ted cruz in the senate. that's who they have to work on, in my opinion. >> we all are. i want to ask you to in back monday whether schumer brings it up again or not because you've been talking about this really for as long as you've been coming on and some of this is on us for not focusing on it a head of this bill. so why don't y

what is your response, rosy, to pat toomey? disgusting for him to play partisan politics. these are lives. i think if he had a child or a spouse in the position that we're in who is affected by chemical exposure during wartime, he probably would be standing on the steps of the capitol with us. so it's disgusting, and it's just -- it angers us because we live it every day. and so i just wish that they would walk a day in our shoes to understand the reality of the war that followed us home. >> how has it been like for you, day to day, amanda? >> my husband is a 23-year army pilot. and he left the military shortly thereafter found out that he had stage 4 colon cancer. we've been through 12 rounds of chemo and he's had two major surgeries. we've been blessed to receive care at the mayo clinic in rochester. he is fighting the good fight. it's always difficult a stage 4 cancer diagnosis. you don't know what the future is going to be. each day we celebrate and we're grateful for. >> do you feel like, rosy, your husband's future surviv

go to pat toomey's office, call him right now.e on the hill and get it through immediately because it may not get through before they go on summer break and then let's get to the issues because there's a whole line behind them ready to come as well. >> doing interviews from the vince lombardi service areas on the turnpike on his way home. >> i'm not ashamed to say i have a bladder. i have to pull over every now and again. >> they have a good roy rodgers there, as i recall. before i let you go, let me ask you about the future of this. we heard chuck schumer saying on monday, he'll bring it up for a vote and he believes he'll pass and republicans saying, yeah, we'll pass it and we'll get the money to go -- >> but again -- >> frankly because of the noise you made, so is it going to happen? >> again, willie, when we say we want to clear this up. what do they mean? do they mean clear up the way that the bill is paid for that was in the bill on june 16th when they voted yes? like, what do they mean by clean up? this is not a gimmick. it

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so pat toomey, the republican from pennsylvania, his amendment addresses how this $400 billion in thel can be spent. he says as it's written the money can be used unrelated to veteran. >> that's nonsense. >> and burn pit exposure. >> it's utter nonsense. nothing matters to them. nothing penetrates that bubble that they live in of procedural [bleep] there are real people who face tragic consequences for their parliamentary [bleep] >> jesse: whoa there, little fella. i like that kind of passion but what are we talking about here? my producers told me jon is on a press tour saying republicans are blocking a bill that would help veterans who got sick from toxic burn pits in afghanistan and iraq. but, before we can figure out what was going on, stuart was on every channel, cnn, msnbc, the home shopping network. all the hosts totally unprepared but along for the ride. if jon stuart wants to come on their show last minute drop f bombs and bash republicans for not supporting the troops. book it last night stuart asked us if he could come on "primetime" but we had a being pad show. we had to c

. >> this morning one of the senators who blocked the bill pat toomey defended the action this morning. >> this is the oldest trick in washington. people take a sympathetic group of american, and it could be children with an illness. it could be victims of crime or veterans who were exposed to toxic chemicals, and craft a bill to address their problems and sneak in something unrelated that could not pass on its own, and dare the republicans to do something about it, because they know they will unleash the allies in the media and maybe a pseudo celebrity to make up false accusations to just swallow what shouldn't be there, and that is what is happening here, jake. >> and joining us is jon tester of montana the bill's sponsor and the chairman of the veterans affairs committee, and what is your response to the senator of pennsylvania who is saying that you are trying to pull a fast one. what is your response to that? >> pat toomey is a friend, and a smart guy, and to the bottom line, this is not a fast one, and the same bill that we passed on the 16th of june, and it should be passed agai

but, i think we'll have a stronger candidate. >> so margaret, pat toomey joining the chorus of people that get very honest when they don't have an electoral prospect in front of them as he's an outgoing republican senator. but trump still has a grip on the republican party. have you seen any signs that he's damaged by the hearings and could it hurt him getting the gop nomination. >> the longer hearings go on, the more revelations there are, that risk emerges. if you look at polling now, there are two trends worth watching and one is what share of republicans say they identify more with trump versus what share they identify more with the republican party. that's been softening in recent months. i any nbc has been tracking this. more republicans say they identify with the republican party but they still identify strongly with him. and it is who is the competition. because if you're in a primary, you're not running against just yourself or nothing. you're running against other candidates. right now, ron desantis is an eme emerging force. probably the biggest movement of republicans is ex

pat toomey of pennsylvania says his problem with the bill is a budget issue that could lead to unrelatedcern about this bill has nothing to do with the purpose of the bill. here is the problem. completely unrelated to the $280 billion of new spending, there is a mechanism created in this bill, it is a budgetary gimmick that has the intent of making it possible to have a huge explosion in unrelated spending. $400 billion. >> we will hear from jon stewart on that. he has been pushing this bill for years and today, he ripped into republicans who voted against it. >> america's heroes were fighting our wars outside, sweating their [ bleep ] off with oxygen, battling all kinds of ailments while these mother [ bleep ] sat in the air conditioning walled off from any of it! >> the bill was set to make two major changes, extended the grace period for military veterans who served near burn pits to get medical care from the department of veterans affairs. and under it, the va would presume veterans developed certain respiratory illnesses and cancers because of the exposure to those very burn pits. t

pat toomey is walking away. god knows what kind of pot of gold he is stepping into. to lobby this government and -- on more people. i am use to all of it, but i am not used to cruelty. amy: in eastern ukraine, russia's military says an attack by ukrainian forces using a u.-made advanced missile stem has killed ukrainian prisoners of war and wounded dozens of others. ukraine denied its forces carried out the attack in separatist-held territory and instead blamed russia for the strike on a prison housing the pows. meanwhile, united nations officials say they're hopeful that a u.n. and turkey-brokered deal to safely export grain from blockaded ukrainian ports could begin as early as today. the white house says president biden spoke with chinese leader xi jinping by telephone for over two hours on thursday, at a time of rising tensions between washington and beijing. press secretary karine jean-pierre said the talks were aimed at restoring the u.s.-china relationship. the pair reportedly discussed climate change, human rights, counter-narcotics, and russia's war in ukrai

but i do wonder, look, pat toomey has always had this objection to this legislation, but as jon stewartpassed. >> toomey was opposed to it when it passed 82-14. >> we only got the cbo score that says it was $680 billion, not $280 billion in june. it was before that final vote. we all know that people don't focus on every aspect of legislation. sometimes they don't focus on it until late in the game. that's what happened here with republicans. again, i think this is going to be resolved and it will be independent of what happens to other pieces of legislation. >> one other thing, you said you think this is going to pass. pelosi's warning of land lines, warnock warns about republican booby traps. are you saying it's going to be easy? >> i don't think it's going to be easy, but i think ultimately it will pass for the reasons that i outline. now, there are very clearly going to be challenges, even the ways and means chairman, ritchie neil, is on the record being against the carried interest provision. hedge fund managers, you know, investment folks, pay a lower tax rate, like 15%, and it wo

and pat toomey never had a problem with that.nd never had a problem spending billions of dollars to send these people into harm's way. >> one of the things you said today, we just played you saying, you said you're used to the lie, the pip cracy and the cowardice and you're -- hypocrisy and the cowardice and you're not used to the cruelty. i watched you in the 2000s, covering the gop, and the george bush republican party every night, and how extreme do you believe this current republican party is compared to that one? >> i mean look, you know, i have different issues with different areas, what i was referring to was there was a group of people who came home from war, a traumatizing event to begin, with and whether they fought for this country, to defend the flag, or to fight for freedom, or because it was their only choice between that and prison or drug treatment program, it doesn't matter, they lived up to their obligation in this country. they lived up to their oath, and when they came home, they found that the consequences of

the mcconnell argument here is they filibustered the bill because schumer -- pat toomey.att moving from discretionary to mandatory financing. that's the sort of policy dispute. a lot of other people looked at what happened and said, you know what? this was a fit of peak. they got mad because they thought the schumer/manchin deal wasn't happening. and that's why they filibustered this bill. going forward, schumer said he's going to bring it up again on monday, that amendment from pat toomey is going to get a vote. now, the question is, if it doesn't pass, it's going to be -- the senate, the rules are kind of complicated -- it's going to be a 60-vote threshold, right? they need 60 votes to pass. if it goes down, as it seems likely to, that is a big question. what do republicans do then? in other words, is the demand only that they have a vote on this? or is the demand that it be included on final passage? that's the thing to watch for. >> we'll be watching for that. >>> house speaker nancy pelosi has started her trip to visit u.s. allies in asia, including japan and south k

the issue rose when senator pat toomey, patriot pat, i like to call him.s i've been sitting in my car now for probably about 11 hours so, i'm a little punchy. he put in, an amendment that basically said, because of the version that they passed on tuesday seen on the senate, the veterans health care is mandatory spending. it's, the mandatory discretionary, these are budgetary tranches, that the government uses. the reason why it was done this way is so that the government couldn't, if they were promising the veterans the health care they need, they couldn't then go and raid money from agriculture. or they couldn't raid money from food stamps. they can't raid other discretionary things by making it mandatory. toomey is suggesting that that means it's 400 billion dollars of a slush fund. it's a ridiculous argument. it's nonsense! the va secretary still, even if it is mandatory spending, the va secretary has to submit every year, to congress, the house and the senate, both appropriations committees, what's the spending is going to be and what is going to revol

but republican pat toomey blocked it citing concerns over what he said was $400 billion in spending unrelated to veterans. the disagreement fired up >> haven't met a veteran they won't screw over. >> this is total -- this is the worst form of over-politicization i've literally ever seen. this is total bs. >> the measure is expected to come up for a another senate vote on monday. >>> president biden and his chinese counterpart could meet for the first time since mr. biden took office. that's according to a white house official after both leaders talked on the phone for more than two hours yesterday. one of the topics was taiwan. chinese officials who chamber the island as their territory want house speaker nancy pelosi to cancel a possible trip there. mr. biden said the u.s. opposes efforts to undermine peace across the taiwan strait. >>> we've been talking about this one for a while, but could someone become a billionaire tonight? the mega millions jackpot has grown to $1.1 billion. it's just the fourth time a u.s. lottery has surpassed the lines to buy tickets since they are not sold everywh

. >> pennsylvania senator pat toomey urged fellow republicans to block the bill saying it allowed for $400 billion in spending unrelated to veterans care jon stewart responded to toomey last night on msnbc. >> it's a rediculous argument, nonsense the va secretary has to submit every year to congress, the house and smat, both appropriations committees what the spending is going to be and what it's going to revolve around >> majority leader chuck schumer says the senate will hold another vote on the bill on mondayr laws take effect across the country more physicians are raising alarms about being able to provide proper care for their patients courtney allen of wsmv talked to a few interests about this gray area >> it's going to put us between a rock and hard place. >> reporter: dr. katrina green treats things like ectopic pregnant, which if left to grow could rupture and kill the mother now in fear of being prosecuted some doctors may hesitate to act. >> what are we supposed to do? do we wait until it's too late and get sued by the family and rightly so or do we do, you know, our job, w

pat toomey of pennsylvania speaking to bloomberg about the risks of higher inflation. >> inflation is a bigger risk because it is here, it is real. is there a risk of a recession? yes, clearly there is a significant risk that in the next 12 months, we will have a recession. my quarrel with the fed and how it is managed monetary policy is there is a mindset the fed sees inflation as a psychological problem rather than a monetary problem. guy: we are having that debate here as well. the ecb is expected to hike rates this month. the first hike in 11 years. we are seeing record high inflation, bond yields come down and the market prices out 50 basis points for september. we are going to get 25 in july. let's talk about this. record inflation, the number we have never seen before out of the eurozone and the market takes yields lower. what's happening? >> the issue is markets are concerned we are in a stagflation situation. growth is going to be week most of the quarters and there is the worry that while inflation is 8.6%, an all-time high for europe, the situation in the economy will be so

guy: senator pat toomey of pennsylvania weighing in on the debate we are having, inflation versus recessiongoldman sachs talking about this as well. warning the risk of equity selloff remains high. it said unless bond yields start to decline, equity valuations could decline further. they are not the only ones worried about the second half. bank of america warning today of a recession shock coming towards us. you have michael burry warning maybe we have only seen half of the losses in the first half, and the second half could be bumpy as well. let's get another view on this. marta norton, morningstar investment, cio, joining us now. thank you for joining us. what is your perspective on this? first half horrible, second half what do you see? marta: we are in an uncertain environment. everyone is pointing out the obvious risks with inflation and recession. the consensus is saying inflation is taking, -- inflation is peaking whether now or soon, it is running its course. recession is a risk. if we see a recession, it is a more moderate recession. any instance we have where inflation does not fo

pat toomey is going to be gone. cheney's next. she's not going to go quietly. >> do you see yourself running for president as a way to prevent what you say would be the destruction of the party damaging our country? >> i haven't made a decision about that yet. i'm obviously very focused on my reelection, i'm focused on the january 6th committee, i'm focused on my obligation to do the job that i have now. i'll make a decision about 24 down the road. >> laura: this is why people think washington is completely delusional, totally separated from the way real people live their lives. whatever she decides she can count on unlimited support from the regime media that longs for the day when republicans like liz cheney merely pretended to disagree with the clintons well implementing the same policy as the democrats. >> there needs to be republicans of courage. >> liz cheney in particular is showing courage is contagious. >> liz cheney liz cheney offering much-needed truth during a time of so many dangerous lies. >> laura: liberals and neve

. >> bill: you went off on pat toomey the republican on pennsylvania. spoke to him earlier today and he calls it a budget gimmick. he says there is $400 billion in totally unrelated matters and i told him i was going to have you on and he said you ask jon if he is really ticked off about this go after democrats and say to democrats get this provision out of the bill and it would pass today. that was his response. >> first of all, that's just not true. the provision was in the bill when it passed 84-14. ask pat toomey because he complained about it on june 16th when it originally passed. nothing has changed. the mandate versus mandatory spending and discretionary funding is exactly as it was and that provision came out of the senate veterans affairs committee unanimously. it was not added to the bill by democrats. it is not a gimmick that was put in there and again, don't take my word for it. go to congress.gov. the text of the bill hasn't been changed. >> bill: he said eventually this bill will pass and everyone knows that. is that true? >> eventually i

pat toomey is retiring but oz versus fetterman is a marquis matchup to watch.nity that democrats see to flip a couple se seats but the idea is no easy task. >> you mentioned "the new york times"/sienna poll. the times released new numbers this morning. people can see and this shows former president trump in a primary with ron desantis. >> i think that we are going to spend the next several months to figure just how much power does donald trump have inside the party. what we see here and saw in a cnn polling earlier this year, should he be the nominee or not? half the republican party said yes and no. donald trump clear leader in this republican hypothetical horse race and desantis the threat in double digits there. you look at half -- more than half of republicans in this poll don't want donald trump. one thing, the way to win a republican nomination is winner takes all. donald trump need 70%. if there's a crowded field remember 2015, 2016. he can win and scoop up the delegates so it's not clear yet if donald trump has taken on so much damage with the party he

you heard pat toomey.e is among the gop critics who say the bill will only hurt the economy further. new york republican congressman and got editorial candidate lee zeldin joins us now. congressman, what do you think of joe manchin who seems to have enabled this bill whitney's been saying all along he did not want to go for big spending and washington packages. >> senator manchin earned a lot of credit for a long time and then he threw it away, he decided to fold with this deal. you come up with the name, here they call the inflation reduction act. can they name it the inflation reduction act, surely it's reducing inflation. that's not what it does. a clip you just played from senator toomey. on the spending side and the tax side resulted in an economic impact for a nation that just had new gdp numbers come out, the second straight quarter of negative growth, there's a lot of concern about the direction of our economy and what were actually witnessing here. yet congressional democrats to see the writing on

pat toomey will join me. >>> plus, vote for vets. senate republicans

what pat toomey is attempting to do is do something that should have been done the first time it passedhe way this bill was funded in a way that makes the bill not only stronger but hopefully much more fiscally responsible. >> what it really comes down to it's about congress hiding behind an important veterans care bill a massive unrelated spending binge. >> bret: what do you say to that? i don't know what to say it's utter ridiculousness. don't take my word for it read the bill. there is nothing in the bill that indicates spending about any other issue but veterans health and funding and if there was, i would not have supported it. this is all about the language in the pact act is incredibly specific that all of the funding must be spent, even the toxic exposure fund, the language is explicit about what you can spend it for. so i don't understand you have got some republican senators saying well if you will switch to mandatory to discretionary then i will do it because they snuck it in as mandatory it's always been mandatory. the bill that passed the senate on june 16th, 84-14. not one

pat toomey has some principal reasons for budget policy and what we could afford. changed because mitch mcconnell said we need to screw somebody, that would be appalling. >> what you make of what republicans are doing on this so-called armpit legislation? >> in a word, it is appalling. let's talk about what has happened. justin june, the bill passed out of the senate with 84 votes. 84 and went to the house. the house made a minor change and that's why it was back in the senate for a vote. 25 republicans who had voted for back in june, they opted to vote against the bill. senator toomey, his problem was that funding was be moved from discretionary within the bill to mandatory. he was calling it a budget to make. you know who does not care whether it is a budget gimmick? the families that john stuart was talking about. the veterans who worked in the burn pits and are suffering with the ailments. it's the families of those veterans who are's pick and/or have died. it's the families who are dealing with the financial burdens that john stuart was talking about. they cou

. >> they are worried, pat toomey says he is worried about the misusing the funds and he is is aweare sick and the burn pits are the reason why, what is the rub. >> and let me address the idea, it can't. the bill prescribes what the money is to be spent for. and, every year the va secretary has to present to the house and to the senate to the a propiators, right, they both have committees, presenting to them what his appropriations are for that year. and the money can not be spent -- it is not a slush fund. it is designed for the health care and benefits for those who have been exposed to the toxic wounds of war. it is just a lie. now, toomey says he does not want the amendment to have a vote. they offered a vote, a poison pill amendment, they offered a vote at the same threshold they had to overcome. and what toomey is saying no, want to unanimous consent just in the bill. >> while they are doing this, though, jon veterans, with cancer, are sick and some are dying, what are you hearing from them? >> it is heartbreaking. it is utterly heartbreaking. you know. a lot of these folks are

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this, they are using, veterans they're doing exactly what he's talking about, what pat toomey is talkingsing veterans for political winds. i think that's disgusting. these folks have actually been, in, out advocating for this, for their lives. this is something that they earned. it's owed to them. congress finally, finally found a bipartisan solution to this, years have gone by, john stewart, to his credit, has been steadfast in his support here, using his celebrity to help these veterans get this health care bill passed. folks have died in the process waiting for this to be done. lives literally were on the line. and the fact that republicans are using this as a political pawn again, over something they cannot specifically say with the problem is, that they would tank something they voted for, 84 to 14 before, 300 and 42 to 88 in the house, it's just really shameful on their part, i hope that they're called out for, it's not okay. >> they're being called out for. tara and joan, tara john -- yeah, we have to go. thank you both very much for coming to the sunday show. coming up, young vot

. >> we heard from retiring republican senator pat toomey say that he thinks these hearings are making harder for trump to win the republican nomination for 2024. you guys are both so well sourced. you talk to people all the time. alex, first to you what are you hearing among republican insiders about what they think, how they're thinking these hearings are affecting donald trump's political future? >> well, john, it can be a little hard to distinguish people's authentic analysis from wishful thinking because as we describe in the book, there is a huge gap between what republican elites will say about donald trump and what they say about him in private. and for the most part they would be delighted if these hearings cr cripple donald trump's aspirations out of the gate. you need to read what they're saying now in that context. but i do think even within that context and all of the asterisks attached to that, there is a real sense in the republican party, the leadership level of the republican party, among donors in the republican party, big donors in the republican party, that as long

. >> in late june, the senate version of the bill was blocked temporarily by republican senator pat toomeye said he opposed the measure because it cost too much money. take a listen. >> so about this budgetary gimmick that's designed to allow hundreds of billions of dollars of additional spending on totally unrelated, who knows what categories. we have inflation hitting a 40-year high. we have a government that's been spending trillions of dollars, too much money, printing the money to spend, and everybody sees it every day at the pump, at the grocery store, everywhere, and what this gimmick does is it makes it possible to spend yet another $400 billion. >> my understanding is senator toomey cannot stop the bill from passing once it gets to the senate this time. what do you make of his comments and his call for congressional oversight over how the money is spent? >> it's interesting. to me, because these bills have passed by such a bipartisan margin, large margin, it's been interesting to watch the divisions between folks in different parties and the economic argument has been thrown out i

pat toomey, he's going togo be gone at the end of the year. george p. bush is a nice guy, but he was annihilated in his primary. >> and cheney,y,en she's next.ss >> of course, she's not going to go quietly. do youoiui see yourself runningr president as a way to prevent what you say would wha the destruction of the party by damaging our country? i haven't made a decision about that yet. and i'm obviously very focused on my reelection. i'm very focused on the january ethics committee. i'm very focused on my obligation to do the job that i have now and i'll make a decision about twenty four down the road t. >> all right. this is why people think washington is completely delusionalhi, totally separatede from the way real people live their lives that so whatever she decides, she canhe count on unlimited support froma the regime media that longs for the day when republicans like liz cheney merely pretended to disagree with the clintons while essentially implementing virtually the same policies as the democratss tends to be republicans of courage. liz cheneyy

i encourage everyone to go to pat toomey's floor speech on this.about this very explicitly on the fact they do support this. if anything, was if i was jon stewart and others, i would be frustrated democrats are using this issue as a shield for other projects and other budgetary matters. if i can talk quickly about manchin, hoppy's reporting on this has been stellar, and i encourage folks to go and follow him and his latest writings on this are important saying that manchin has been negotiating all along. what i am interested to see is how this impacts him in west virginia, a red state, he has been very popular in that state, but in his recent reportings, he says back in the larger spending package, build back better, 60%, nearly 70% of people in west virginia would support him, but that number would go down to 60% if he were to support some type of negotiated spending plan, which is what we're talking about here, and the question is why did he do it. and what we see in washington, love affairs are very transactional, and he went from hero to zero w

pat toomey says the party can do better from trump. >> i think he disqualified himself from running for his post-election behavior. i think the revelations from this committee make his path to even the republican nomination much more tenuous. never say never and he decides whether to throw his hat in the ring, but i think we'll have a stronger candidate. >> let's bring in laura brown lopez, a white house correspondent for pbs news hour and a cnn political analyst, a republican strategist and a former rnc communications director. great to see both of you. doug, let me start with you. is there any way to quantify this? how many republicans do you think are either publicly or behind the scenes privately saying that very thing, enough is enough with trump, we can do better as a party? >> we can't quantify it but it's the behind the scenes that's operative. and we're seeing that with obviously senator toomey who said it publicly. more and more republicans privately have been saying this for a while. but, also, with the number of republican donors, really the top finance people who work with

it's senator pat toomey from pennsylvania, you want to stop this, you want to stop it from happeningmake him famous. shame him into oblivion so when he leaves the center at the end of this, he can't go into some cushy corporate job, drink champagne, while our friends continue to die. >> it's not new for republicans to block democrats. it's what mitch mcconnell did for eight years. but in this specific case, how much of a political misfire is it for the gop who claims to be law in order, america first? >> we'll find out, it will only be a misfire if the american people make them pay. i host a show called independent americans, i think this moves independent americans. i think it gets people in toss-up states. i think it gets people to leave the republican party that claims to be the party of national security and national defense. this is going to help one in five living veterans. potentially millions of veterans, all the way back to vietnam. and, look the democrats deserve credit for moving us forward, but it also took us almost 20 years to get it done. so no one's really clear, here

reconciliation package that republicans don't like, and there is an issue about an amendment that pat toomey wants, that chuck schumer said he could have at a 60-vote threshold. so they would need 60 to get that amendment in. chuck schumer's going to bring it up again on monday. many in the capitol here see it as retaliation. and it's sad to say that, although people deny it. there are many people in the capitol who see this as retaliation for democrats doing that reconciliation measure, releasing that reconciliation measure after signaling they would not release it just weeks ago. so it is a sad -- to be honest with you, a sad statement on the state of politics in d.c. >> juanita, senators who voted no who previously voted yes say this isn't payback, it's policy. what do you think? >> it's petty, chris, is what it is. and just when you think senate republicans can't sink to an all new low they go and outdo themselves again. i couldn't agree more with what jon stewart said about how disgusting this was because veterans are dying. and chris, i'm the daughter, granddaughter, and cousin of plen

in pennsylvania, retiring senator pat toomey of the republican party opened the door to democrats to flip the state. democratically turned john fetterman leads longtime new jersey resident, doctor oz, by almost ten points and the latest polling. the stakes are high. the margins are tight and the suspense killing me. luckily we only have about 100 days until we get the results. joining me now to talk more about what it all means and when might happen -- both for presidential about must presidential run, he's now the president of the -- research. and political analyst rachel -- host of the cycle news later on substack and all through the forthcoming book, hit them where it hurts. how to save democracy by beating republicans at their own game. i want to start with a question to both of you. if you had to guess, i know we don't like predictions anymore, they let start with a prediction, will democrats lose or keep control of the house and senate? cornell? >> you know, it's interesting they asked me that. today i would say there's not going to be away the election. if you asked me this fo

we arrived at this point blocking final pastors of the bill pretty could look to pat toomey he said that's to do with not wanting to support these veterans. it has no democrats thinking and $40 billion in extra unrelated spending. so where you stand on this issue politically right now depends upon where you sit if you are democrat you are saying hold your nose if this is so important to you, spend some extra money. if you are a republican you are saying democrats are playing dirty, trying to sneak dirty extras into this a package they could just cut it out if they really cared about veterans. bret: it stops the funding is there to enabling usenet funding down the road, guy for something else. but politically you have democrats running on this now senate race in missouri, the candidate this was my view and iraq i like to see josh hawley in roy blunt flick next to this for months before the next vote on healthcare for veterans. it is something obviously republicans want to get off the front burner. >> i see center corner from texas believes it will get done this week. he has been saying that