patriot act is that essentially what we're seeing here. yeah i mean it's very similar like the patriot act there's not a lot of details in the proposal and like the patriot act it's going to allow the government to put these boxes in that allow them to make full copies of pretty much all the internet traffic that's going back and forth on british government servers and so another thing like the patriot act is they say they're only using it to look at who you're talking to and where the data is coming from but the fact is once you put these boxes in once the government gets a copy of everything you're visiting on the internet every e-mail you're sending who knows what they're doing with it and we've seen in the u.s. that the government has all these classified programs to make other uses of the data that they refused to disclose exactly what they are and i know that there was a similar proposal and britain back in two thousand and six but there was so much opposition that it was canned so i'm wondering i mean why do you think you know they

just going off what you said i mean it's that it took nine eleven to sort of push to the patriot act here let's not forget about lasted for ten years and that was reinstated as law here so i guess i'm just wondering i mean what do you think is there some sort of international opinion that the patriot act is a fact and a really good. well i think there's an international opinion among governments everywhere that it's nice to spy on your citizens i mean who doesn't like the power to listen in on people's emails to look at what web pages people visit every government loves the ability to do that and so what we see is you know these authoritarian forces with in every government looking for opportunities where they can increase their power and increase the scope of what they can look at and pass laws like this one now it's hard to say of course not and i don't have a crystal ball but i'm wondering i just want to get your take on this is obviously a cause that you believe and i mean what are some of the ways in which this can backfire what are some of the most detrimental ways that this ca

in vain the man claimed the patriotism should labor to subvert the human happiness. the props of the duties of men and citizens. the mere politician equally with the pious man out to respect and cherish them. a volume cannot trace all their connections with private and public felicity. let it be asked, where is the security for property, reputation, for life? if the sense of religious obligation desert the oaths that are the instruments of investigation in courts of justice. morality can be maintained without religion. whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education on minds of particular structure, reason, and experience, both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail an exclusion of religious principal. it is substantially true that virtue is a necessary spring of popular government. the rule indeed extends with more or less force to every species of free government. who can look with indifference upon attempts to shake the foundation of the fabric. promote them as an object of primary importance and institution of the general diffusion

patriotic poems is that she completely identified with the american cause. she saw herself as an american. she supported the resistance movement against great britain. she objected to british tyranny. and she supported the establishment of an american nation whose future she saw as great and impressive. in 1775 she wrote a poem to george washington, to his excellency george washington, in which she praised washington's prowess as commander in chief and celebrated the american struggle against britain. not only that, she actually sent her poem to george washington. so here she is. she's still an enslaved woman, and she sends her poem to the commander in chief of the american continental army. washington, to his credit, responded to wheatley's poem generously and graciously, and the two actually met one another in 1776. it shows you then that even a slave owner like george washington was willing to recognize merit when he saw it. not so another american political leader, thomas jefferson, who dismissed phillis wheatley's poetry as inferior and not worth the la

he is telling us that these are non patriotic. part of the big international movements. i think they were pushing me to fire the guy. i sit on a very interesting. what can we do about it? should i fire him? we will bring this teacher and whoever has another opinion and we will start a debate between both parties. it was a very interesting debate. i informed the teacher the day before so it is a fair competition. this group came for me to fire him. they started discussing and debating with this. it is a beautiful debate. they wanted good for egypt. it was a healthy solution. these solutions are to the education. >> another challenges we face, when you come out of oppression, you cannot say anything to anyone. if there's only one vote. all of a sudden, that voice disappears. you have so many different voices. i used to use the seventh habits of highly successful people. i used to say we have two years in one town. let's listen twice. -- two ears and one tongue. let's listen twice. >> my name is john anderson. i am an independent analyst. my question involves party finance

they held patriotic spinning bees where women would join with one another in making this cloth. they would wear garments made of homespun cloth. and this homespun cloth would be much more rough textured, would be much less fine than the kinds of goods that they could import from great britain. but by wearing this homespun cloth women were visibly and vividly and physically displaying their political sentiments. to the public. they were showing other women and other people that they supported the american cause of resistance. some women took other kinds of political actions. they identified merchants who were violating the boycott, and they would gather together and march en masse to protest these merchants' policies. there's even a case in boston where the women gathered around the merchant and seized the merchant's keys for his shop from him and marched away. in boston in 1767 and in edington, north carolina in 1764, women wrote and signed their own non-importation agreements. it wasn't sufficient for them to just obey the dictates of the continental congress. they wanted to co

the consolation to believe that while choice and prudence invite me to quit the political scene, patriotism does not forbid it. in looking forward to the moment which is terminate at career of my political life, my feelings do not permit me to suspend the deep acknowledge innocent of met of gratitude i owe to the can untri. for the steadfast confidence which it has supported me and for the opportunities i have since enjoyed of manifesting my unviable attachment by services faithful in persevering though in usefulness unequal to my zeal. if benefits have resulted to our country from these services, let it it always be remembered to your praise, and as an instructive example in our annals that under circumstances in which the passions agitated in every direction were liable to mislead and missed appearances, sometimes dubious, the vicissitudes of fortune discouraging in situations which not unfrequently one of success has countenance the spirit of criticism, the constancy of your support was the essential prop of the efforts and a guarantee of the plan business which they were affected. profo

educators really felt it was their duty to instill a sense of political responsibility and patriotism to their young charges. as i mentioned, many young women from this age group -- excuse me, age group and economic group, spent the war -- still receiving their education. they could afford to do that. and in the classrooms often became a venue for this political expression. i thought this was quite interesting. i wish i could find more evidence about it, but immediately after secession, many southern schools began to reorient their curriculum to reflect their ideological arguments about the confederacy and about the conflict with the union. the daily richmond enquirer, a newspaper in richmond, virginia, reported that southern publishing houses were releasing their own versions of text books, and one of them -- i wish i could find this -- is called "the southern confederacy arithmetic book." so you can imagine what the word problems would be like. i don't know. if you find one of those, please get in touch with me. by 1863 the confederate government actually had taken steps to organize

this within certain limits is probably true and in governments of a monarchical cast, patriotism look upon the spirit of party. but in those of the popular character, in government's purely elective it is a spirit not to be encouraged. from their natural tendency it is certain there will always be enough of that spirit for every s salutary purpose. and constant danger of excess the effort ought to be by force of public opinion to mitigate and assuage it. a fire not to be quenched, it demands a uniform vigilance to prevent it bursting into a flame, less instead of warming it should consume. it is important likewise that the habits of thinking in a free country should inspire caution in those entrusted with its administration to confine themselves within their respective constitutional sphere, avoid iing in the exercise of the powers of one department to encroach upon another. the spirit of encroachment tends to consolidate the powers of all of the departments in one, and thus to create whatever the form of government a real despotism. a just estimate of that love of power and proneness

and they call themselves patriots. you can't be a patriot and you can't be a conservative. conservatives are about conserving things. these people are about smashing down every american institution that makes us great. they want to smash down labor unions. they want to smash down opportunity, smash smash down the safety net. they attack america's every day heroes. public employees calling them the enemies, cops teachers firefighters, nurses the people we were taught to respect as children, they are constantly attacking. it is time for us to capture the flag take it back. >> you know, we are talking about conservation. our favorite subject, you and me, we love talking about clean energy jobs. and let me just talk about that for one second because obviously that's something that you have particular expertise in. and in a 2003 letter to george petaki then governor romney wrote the following about climate change and pushed at that point in 2003, he said climate change is beginning to have an effect on our natural resources. now, is the time to take action. i believe that our jo

i suppose, in the true patriot, we argued that progressives needed to reclaim patriotism, and that we had left patriotism be sort of a highjacked by the right, although the left, we on the left did a great job of essentially letting it go, the core argument in the true patriot was if you take patriotism seriously that is to say putting country first as john mccain puts it you end up with a set of very progressive central, and, values, and i suppose at the core of the argument is, that .. a millions act of selfishness don't add up to be a great -- don't create a good society and that being selfish and narrow, you know, narrowly self centered in this sort of way that our culture points us to really is, in the american context, immoral. this book argues further that being selfish is stupid, so the true patriot was a moral argument. this is an intellectual argument. >> rose: and you argue -- go ahead. >> i think that the foundation we try to lay in the true patriot was one of values. right? but upon that foundation, what we are trying to put forth in the gardens of democracy is a theory o

this week at a call the patriotic millionaires of one and joins me right now from our new york studio richard shot and shell is here he's the founder of the shot and felt group l.l.c. richard welcome. thanks for having me thanks for joining us you guys call yourselves patriotic millionaires what does that mean. well you know we're we're a group of citizens who are concerned about the country and we're patriots and we realize that the path we've been going down is one that's going to lead to a devastation to the u.s. economy we look at what's going on in the country in the deficits and we we realize that people who are wealthy in this country need to do more and we look at thirty years of driving taxes down on the wealthiest americans and realize it's not had any positive impact on the country or deficits of the loon and that the whole notion that by lowering taxes on the wealthiest americans are going to create jobs for the middle class and it's going to trickle down has been a complete and total failure you what do you think is behind the difference between wealthy people like yourse

in common what i like to say the one thing that delegates all delegates have in common is their patriotic they care they've gotten motivated to do something positive about the situation of things and i think no matter if you originally got on board because you supported santorum or michele bachmann or whoever you supported when you became a delegate i think at the end of the day when you get to tampa and you're there and you've invested so much and you come to realize that mitt romney is obama there there is absolutely no difference between the two of them and mitt romney has already lost the general election he can't even debate he's never want to debate before if you put them on the stage together between obama and romney it's going to be a love fest they're just going to agree oh you win your obamacare here well you're the author of that so i think the delegates will realize when you have everyone talking among themselves and speaking out about why we all support ron paul i think that there's a lot of people who originally supported other candidates who are going to support ron paul it

we are authorized to distrust patriotism of nay sayers. he is fostering certain political positions. positions which could under mine the continuance of the union must be made disreputable. as lincoln would later say, having learned from washington, in this and like communities, public sentiment is everything. with public sentiment nothing can fail. without it, nothing can succeed. consequently, he who molds public sentiment goes deeper than he who enacts decisions. he makes statutes impossible to be executed. in the farewell address washington is engaged in this ultimate task, shaping a fundamental and enduring public sentiment that will support and just as importantly restrict the efforts of future american statesmen. from union it is but a short step to the constitution for the constitution furthers an intimate union. washington's main point in the section is that true liberty entails duty upon citizens. he delivers a lesson in democratic theory. the basis of the political systems is the right of the people to make and alter constitutio

for washington, patriotism is a matter of sympathy, but not only sympathy. he supplements the cordial attachment of north and south, east and west with what he calls the most commanding motives, namely, those of immediate commercial interest which link us indissol u bli as one nation. this appeal to union, which is compounded of both sensibility and sense, culminates in washington's first warning against sectionalism and the designing men who would capitalize on geographic divisions who would divide and alienate affections rather than bridge them. one wonders what washington would make of our current partisan gee ago gra if i. washington at mitts that political fraternity on the large scale that the united states is attempting is an experiment, but as such, tis well worth a fair and full experiment. we are accordingly authorized to distrust the patriotism of the parochial naysayers. though washington doesn't coin the word unamerican, he is very much fostering public suspicion of certain political positions, positions which because they could undermine the ve

anthony or mark twain or frederick douglass and patriotic. they are as patriotic as apple pie. you have to board your country accountable and help your country live up to its own ideals. >> -- tavis: i know what you mean when you are saying about not calling martin luther king and patriotic, but he got this invited to the johnson white house, and opinion polls of them found that the overwhelming numbers of americans, including the majority of african americans had turned against martin luther king when he came out against so vehemently against the war. when king dies, he thinks he is persona non grata in this country, because everybody turned on martin. he was found to be unpatriotic and the communist among other things, although i take your point. i raise that because the part of martin luther king we do not want to deal with is his critique of american foreign policy. what to keep him in the state of being a dreamer. we now have monuments of him. president obama goes to celebrate the monument with every other speaker, and no one wanted to draw attention to where he stood on a

or go into a place of business solely based on the color of their skin you can't call yourself a patriot and sin and it doesn't extreme idiology that would spit in the face of dr king and i will challenge anybody the discussion is not just about benteke stream version of libertarianism it's about liberty and justice for liberty and justice the american ideals are something they're not simplistic and i will stand up for america's ideals against anybody and if you doesn't he was overly broad all libertarians don't agree with as i said the so-called libertarians say this and when i was talking about his easy stream libertarians who challenge everybody else's patriotism who won't stand up for dr king and who seem to to look down on so many people in america rather reaching out and trying to help us move forward as one country i then you very much appreciate the opportunity i get into all that in my book rebuild the dream now i'm having to you know going to address it on air here we have to take a short break but we will be right back with us. sometimes you see a story and it seems so you thi

this despicable ideology use it as a wrecking ball and then you went on to say they say they're patriots but they hate everybody in america who looks like us they say they love america but they hate the people the ground folk the gays the lesbians the people with piercings you know you all you can't be immigrant bigots and a patriot so you know i mean i feel like that's that's kind of falling into this thing attacking line. well i think we have to i think we have to start punching back and fighting back. to deal you kid you can't take it don't dish it out now that statement i made was over we are already in our strike as you called these people extremists go after you for maybe and you are all political here. they will listen to the best american politics you know you got you guys should know that politics people people we. never back down from a fight over ideas i think i'm tired and i think a lot of people in america on the american left are tired of a certain section of people acting like they have a monopoly on paper because they don't they're the ones who challenge our patriotism an

but how many patriotic millionaires are there?0 people, i think, who are registered as part of the patriotic millionaires' group but i think actually if you look in the, you know, upper 1% about 50% people feel like something like the buffett rule should put in place. it polls pretty well. >> does it make you feel guilty. >> garrett and i are in the business of creating and building new companies. we both have been successful and built large and important companies. and, you know, all of the business situations i have seen, you never cut your way to success. any road to success includes revenue, also includes investment and we seem to be only working on the cuts. we are never going to get to where we need to be. >> i will leave it at that because that is powerful. gary gruener, jerry if i hadler of the patriotic millionaires thank you for joining us. coming up, beware the red menace. allen west as to his long list of utterly ridiculous statements. our political roundtable will chime in on that and more in the lightning round. this

he said charlie fink is intude studio with us patriotic millionaires.said that this buffett rule gets to the issue of income inequality in this country. she said this is the defining issue of our time. >> if you look at what's happened in the past 20 years, you know, in particular what's happened since 2000, since 1992 the income of the top 1% has gone up 235%. so average americans has gone down. you don't have to look hard to find supporting evidence for the fundamentals fairness and what's happened to our economy in the past 25 years where income has been redistributed up. >> yeah. exactly. dan calling from vancouver washington out on the west coast. hello, dan. >> good morning. >> good morning the top tax rate in '65. >> in '63, it was 22%. >> now down to 30. nobody talks about the pay raise they have gotten. >> that's a 30% tax cut. sure, we are making two bucks an hour more but i can't pay my rent on a week's salary like i did in '65. >> and tough to fill up your car with gas. >> every time the cost goes up. >> the idea it was 92%. 92%. >> kennedy

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for washington, patriotism is a matter of timpl thi. with what he calls the most commanding motetives. one wond rs what washington would make of our current geography. washington admits that political fraternity on the large scale is attempt something an experiment. but as such it is well worth a fair and full experiment. he is very much fostering public suspicion. positions which because they could undermine the continuing of the union must be made disreputable. with public sentiment, nothing can fail. without it nothing can succeed. he makes statutes and decisions possible or impossible. just as importantly restrict the efforts of future american statesmen. from union it is but a short step to the constitution for the constitution furthers an intimate union. washington's main point in the section is that true liberty entails duty upon citizens. he delivers a lesson in democratic theory. the basis of the political systems is the right of the people to make and alter constitutions of government, but the constitution which exists at any

while sounding quite patriotic it actually gave the u.s. government far reaching power to monitor citizens in the name of course of terrorism and the last ten years and then was renewed recently under president obama and now there's a new proposed law that's likely to pass in great britain and looks a whole lot like the u.s. patriot act it would give one of britain's national security agencies the power to monitor phone calls texts e-mails and online activities all in the name of quote investigating serious crime and terrorism to protect the public and this is interesting because it means some internet companies will actually be required to install a special kind of hardware that would give the agency the ability to access who an individual or group is in contact with how long and how frequently they're in contact with them it would still need a warrant to gain access to the contents of the e-mails and phone calls but this is still causing quite a stir and take over so is a veteran of the u.s. marine corps an artsy blogger and also currentl

although liberals who are patriots, it is pretty funny. you may be wondering how a high profile conservative like sarah palin could infiltrate america's favorite morning show in broad daylight. we wonder it had same thing so we sent john oliver over there this morning to investigate. (cheers and applause) >> when sarah palin announced her audacious infiltration of the "today" show she was undertaking a perilous voyage, from the conservative fox hole to nbc's liberal hornet's nest. if she succeeds in this dangerous crossing, she will end up in the belly of the beast, the heart of the liberal media. (car bleeping) i'm (bleep)ing reporting here! with her war paint applied, i tried to warn her of what she had in store while also trying to blend in. (cheers and applause) >> we have a special guest host, sarah palin. >> everyone standing in the cold wind witnessing her first steps into enemy territory was inspired by her courage. was that the bravest thing you've ever seen? >> i wouldn't say that, no. i. >> was it the second-bravest thing? >> it

as avenues to such attachments that are alarming to the truly enlightened patriot. how many opportunities to they afford to tamper with? to practice the arts of is seduction and mislead public opinion and influence or awe the public councils. such an attachment of a small or weak towards a great or powerful nation dooms the former to be a satellite of the latter. against the insydual whiles of foreign influence, i conjure you to believe me, fellow citizens, the jealous of a free people should be awake since history and experience proves that foreign influence is one of the most baneful foes of republican government. that jealously to be useful must be impartial. or else is becomes the instrument of a very influence to be avoided instead of a defense against it. excessive partiality for one foreign nation and excessive dislike for another cause those whom they see danger only on one side and serve to vail and even second the arts of influence on the other. real patriots who may resist the intrigues of the favorite are liable to become suspected and oduous wheel they

emphasizing patriotism. a true patriot would be anti-slavery. and as you might imagine, a man in kentucky saying this is going to get criticism. you know, not just verbal criticism. one time a mob broke into his newspaper office and destroyed his press. and cassius clay started to get death threats. he is very determined. he is someone who is very strong willed. he will not back down. although he never emancipated his own slaves. it seems to be the case that his in laws threatened him. his wife's family, apparently, he had a bad relationship with his wife's family. that was true throughout the marriage. it seems to be the case his wife's family threatened him if he decided to free his own slaves. so he didn't. of course, his critics said he was a hypocrite. clay said in his old age it was a mistake. he was embarrassed about it. he didn't free his own slaves even as he is calling for emancipation. nonethele nonetheless, he goes out on the lecture circuit and faced audiences in kentucky which was a slave state, that were quite hostile. clay was a

the make of america must exalt the just pride of patriotism. washington may be retiring to mount vernon, but he does so as an american. for washington patriotism is a matter of sympathy. but not only sympathy. he supplements the attachment of north and south, east and west, with what he calls the most demanding motives. this culminates in his first warning and the designing men to divide and alienate affections rather than bridge them. one wonders what washington would make of our current partisan geography of heart land red states and bicoastal blue states. washington admits the fraternity is an experiment but is worth a fair and full experm. we are authorized to distrust the pay troetism of the parochial nay sayers. washington doesn't coin the word un-american, he's very much fostering public suspicion. as lincoln would later say, having learned it from washington, in this and like communities, public sentiment is everything. with public sentiment nothing can fail. without it, nothing can succeed. he who modes it goes deeper than who he enact