what have you learned about patsy pallone's testimony? >> everybody wants to know what he told the committee during his lengthy deposition. he was with the committee for more than seven hours, i should say. we are told that one of the things the committee asked him about was a meeting that took place in the white house in mid- december. it was a gathering of election deniers were theories return about discussing ways to overturn the election. he was a part of that meeting and we are told that he described what he viewed as an insane meeting that he did not want to be a part of. the question is, will we see part of that deposition during tomorrow's hearing? committee members say we should expect to hear from him as they set the stage for how the role extremist groups played in the attempt to overturn the election and the capitol riot that took place on january 6. cnn has learned that the generous six committee is zeroing in on a key link. the extremist group ties to trump associates roger stone and michael flynn. the hearing comes as anoth

. >> patsy pallone set for eight hours -- pat sipple only sat for eight hours.e saw testimony this week. how significant of a figure is the former white house counsel? >> he's providing an enormous amount of intelligence and insight about what was happening leading up to and the j -- day of january 6. there were questions whether he would testify or vote executive privilege. might be in a better position to adjudicate on what is new and what we have learned. it seems a lot of the facts, we have kind of known. there were great reporting from the times. but they are tying it all together. i like how they talked about different avenues, different lines of attacks on the president. the big question is how much are we learning new things or are the proving things that are already new? i would be curious on what everyone else has to say. >> i have a feeling you might dispute that. despite the tremendous amount of work the new york times has done, are we hearing new things? >> we are. probably nine -- 89% has been reported. january 6, the american press corps does a ph

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. >> you brought up the former white house counsel, patsy pallone, to testify from the committee's start with this, hutchinson, about him. here's what one committee member had to say about that. >> we never call in with this is to corroborate other witnesses, or to give their reaction to other witnesses. >> but, fernando, it's one thing if you are a prosecutor or attorney and don't want to ask for testimony that could undermine another witness in your case. it's another thing if there's an actual investigation that you're trying to get to the truth of and verify information you have. what does that strategy, what congresswoman laughlin laid out, what does that tell you about this committee's mission? >> i have to say, i really don't understand that comment, at all. no matter what their mission is, whether it's to resent testimony or to investigate, i would think it would be in their interest to find out what everyone knows. i think the only charitable reading in which he says, it's a mistake, i don't think there's any positive explanation for that. >> there's another committee member, i

included and patsy pallone's testimony was a wild description of the december 18th 2020 meeting in the oval office. involving some of figures providing the former president truly ridiculous and conspiratorial ideas on how to overturn the election. we >> i opened the door and i walked in, saw the general command. i saw him sitting there. i was not happy to see the people in the oval office. lawyers, i don't think they were providing, first of all -- actually the first thing that i walked in a looked at him and i said who are you? he told, me i don't think any of these people were providing the president with good advice. >> not individual, the overstock person and this is critical. should not be concerned with the my pillow guy, and individuals former ceo of stock docked outcome. patrick byrne, now brad met with the select committee privately for more than seven and a half hours yesterday. and after that, he spoke with reporters about some of his testimony. including the idea of season voting machines. >> i proposed that adjoined teams of like one u.s. marshall and three national guard

patsy pallone, eric herschmann, jeff rosen, richard donahue, of course they aren't.are. at one point in 2016, when he was first running for office, donald trump said this. i could stand in the middle of fifth avenue and shoot somebody and i wouldn't lose any voters. that quote came to mind last week when audio from trump advisers, steve bannon surface from october 31st 2020. just a few days before the presidential election. let us listen. >> what trouble do is declare victory. he is going to declare victory, and that doesn't mean that he will win but he will just say he is the winner. >> the democrats more of our people vote earlier that count. there is vote in the mail and so, that will have a natural disadvantage and trump will take advantage of that strategy. so when you wake up wednesday morning, it will be a firestorm. >> also, if trump is losing, by ten or 11 at night, it will be even crazier. now because you will sit right there and say they stole it. if biden's win in, trump's gonna do some crazy blank. >> and of, course four days later president trump declar

now lied to patsy pallone's testimony so many other revelations. the committee is saying they're keeping tabs and inventory on what they already know. and what they still need to take further into. they are saying that in the future hearings, we should expect to hear more testimony from secret service agents. we could also find out more information from a revelation that we saw on thursday, that is missing white house call object of the committee said that former president trump spent some of the time in that white house tiny were when he was watching the violence unfold at the capitol. still calling senators in a last-ditch effort to try and delay the certification of those election results. the committee knows there's a lot of work snow left to be done but, again there on a tight timeline with the november midterm elections katie. >>, ali shifting gears a bit. steve relevant. steve bannon was found guilty on contempt of congress. what is the guilty verdict, mean where is the case heading from now? >> yes, this was a big deal, especially for the j