host: paul butler. law professor, former prosecutor, as somebody who has been arrested, what is your take on ferguson? guest: i'm tired of this happening over and over again. it is not just ferguson. it is staten island. it is that 51-year-old grandmother who was beaten by the cops. hit her 10 times. all of these unarmed african-americans being brutalized by police. i think it is important to have a conversation about race and to put it in a larger context, in which african lives just don't seem to be valued. host: that is larger context? guest: it is not just criminal justice. it is civil justice. it is not just african-americans. it is people of color. it is important to talk about race. white americans who are disenfranchised. the lgbt community has issues with the justice system. but it is important to realize that african-americans -- it is the classic american dilemma. there was a lot of hope when barack obama was elected. i don't think anyone thought that it would reverse a legacy of 400 years of

host: paul butler. law professor, former prosecutor, as somebody who has been arrested, what is your take on ferguson? guest: i'm tired of this happening over and over again. it is not just ferguson. it is staten island. it is that 51-year-old grandmother who was beaten by the cops. hit her 10 times. all of these unarmed african-americans being brutalized by police. i think it is important to have a conversation about race and to put it in a larger context, in which african lives just don't seem to be valued. host: that is larger context? guest: it is not just criminal justice. it is civil justice. it is not just african-americans. it is people of color. it is important to talk about race. white americans who are disenfranchised. the lgbt community has issues with the justice system. but it is important to realize that african-americans -- it is the classic american dilemma. there was a lot of hope when barack obama was elected. i don't think anyone thought that it would reverse a legacy of 400 years of

professor, paul butler. yourways, we will take calls and you can join the conversation on facebook and twitter. "washington journal" is next. ♪ this morning on "the washington journal," a three-hour discussion about race in america. in about an hour we will have some guests out here to continue the discussion, but the first hour is devoted to your phone calls. if you to discuss race in america, we have a special number for you to dial. host: finally, our fourth line this morning has been set aside for st. louis area residents. 202-585-3883. host: we are going to begin this morning with the editorial from "the st. louis post dispatch" this morning. ferguson -- we earned this." "st. louis earned this moment by not paying attention to immunities dominated by s, becoming then oxygen that fed the flame of protests and concentrated poverty. in the first editorial that this page wrote on the michael brown case, we noted that the likelihood of conviction in the low.is extremely that remains true. it is the simple re

eanorrogram includes el clift, armstrong williams, and georgetown university law professor, paul butler. yourways, we will take calls and you can join the conversation on facebook and twitter. "washington journal" is next. ♪ this morning on "the washington journal," a three-hour discussion about race in america. in about an hour we will have some guests out here to continue the discussion, but the first hour is devoted to your phone calls. if you

now is ari melber and professor of law at georgetown university and former federal prosecutor, paul butler. professor butler, let me start with you first. in terms of bob mccullough, debate whether he should take himself off the case. what's your opinion? >> it's not only about justice but the appearance of justice. the question is, whether this is a man who we think we fair and objective. look at the facts. the people in the family who work for the police department, include his mother, his father, his uncle a. his brother and his cousin. he was critical of the decision to remove the local ferguson police department from their botched investigation of the homicide. so is he a person who the african-american community, even the wider community can have full faith and confidence? i don't think so. >> ari, i think a lot of folks don't understand how integ ral the police tends to be in terms of a prosecutor's investigation. there is no investigation without the cooperation of the police department. so as angela davis points out in the new republic there's an inher ent conflict of interest, ev

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today's guest is paul butler former federal prosecutor now a professor for georgetown university lawenter. we'll get his prospective on the situation in ferguson. see "press pass" at 11:30 here on nb everybody needs to go home, those words from a black man who lives in ferguson, missouri. not referring to his fellow towns folk. he meant the many others, the many who never even heard of ferguson before last week. the many who lately have emerged at night kind of like bats to flutter around, throw a molotov cocktail, confront a cop or two and holler no justice no peace and ask for directions to the nearest 7-eleven. the black man who wants those guys gone has lived in ferguson, he is devastated by what happened to michael brown and he is deeply saddened by the racial disconnect that has plagued his town. that man's sister told me about him, she lives here in the d.c. area but says her family has been in ferguson for a century. 100 years ago the races were separated in ferguson and 100 years later they still are. she told me one of the things that troubles her ten years ago, she actuall

eleanor clift, paul butler. we appreciate you all being on, >> the american bar association held its ninth annual homeland security law institute last week. homeland security undersecretary for national protection discussed changes in cyber security and critical infrastructure. this is just over an hour. thank you to those who are here i know on a daily basis care about and in many cases work to achieve our shared objective of ensuring secure, safe, resilient communities where our ways of life can thrive. it's really like dan the, my counsel, said this is like a class reunion and in many ways it is. i bring greetings from secretary jay johnson. like me, he is a recovering ttorney. we are well aware and appreciate the rule of law and the rules of lawyers as a vital part of our team as we go forward to accomplish this mission on behalf of the american people. i am aided amy counsel dan sutherland and the secretary has a wonderful general counsel in dan's boss who i believe you're hearing from later in the program.

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. >> reporter: to many african-americans including professor paul butler statements like that lack passion there is a problem if there are 53 officers in ferguson, and only three are african-american. even though the city is 70% plaque. why couldn't the president speak out against that? there is a problem, there is discrimination problem. >> reporter: a pew poll suggests 80% of african-americans say the shooting in ferguson raise issues of race. while 40% of whites say it is raising more attention than it deserves. when the case of trayvon martin was in courts he said he could have a son that could look like trayvon. >> i don't see that it's productive when politicians organize conversations. they end up being stilted, politicized and folks are locked into the positions that they already have 2347 many like professor butler believe that's not good enough, and president obama has fallen short as champion of the cause. >> he has talked about race reluctantly. when he does it's often as though he's translating the concerns of african-americans to white people. >> reporter: after two days of m

radio and tv talkshow host and columnist armstrong williams and georgetown university law professor paul butler. he is the author of let's get free, hip-hop theory of justice. as always, we will take your calls and you can join the conversation on facebook and twitter. washington journal, live at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. >> on newsmakers, indiana governor mike pence talks politics and issues facing indiana and other states and governors. governor pence is frequently mentioned as a potential presidential candidate in 2016. here's a portion of his remarks. >> i think it would be a mistake for our party to continue to look to washington dc as the place where we will solve many of the intractable problems facing our country. i think it is less about where that leadership emerges from than it is about the focus. i really think to some extent our party in the last quarter century has become, as washington centric as the democratic party. in my short tenure here as governor of the state of indiana and as i have served other republican governors around the country and the results they produce, my m

. >> reporter: for paul butler statements like that lacked passion. >> there is a problem if there are 53 officers in ferguson, and only three are african-american. even though the city is 70% block. why couldn't the president speak out against that? >> there is a problem. there is a discrimination problem. >> a pugh poll suggested 80% of african-americans say the shooting in ferguson raise important issues about race while 47% of whites say the issue of race is getting more attention than it deserves. the president does not want to put his thumb on the scale of an investigation by speaking out now, but in 2012 in the shooting death of trayvon martin mr. obama spoke publicly and personally. >> you know, if i had a son, he would look like trayvon. >> reporter: president obama dismissed the idea he should lead a national discussion on race. >> i haven't seen that being particularly productive. when applications try to organize conversations, they end up being stilted, politicized, and folks are locked in the positions they already have. >> reporter: many, like professor butler, believe t

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paul butler wrote a really good piece in the "new york times" professor at georgetown and also membern-american forum, not only race, which is a big part of it, but the presence of female officers. the 12% of u.s. police force that are women, but when women are police officers the level of regression and the level of complaints decreased. what would it call if there were african-american women police officers in ferguson. think about gender and the way this thin blue line male aggression and patriarchy and not only in terms of who the victims are and gender and race operate together to create a police state. >> we should be very careful with this diversity framework. >> yeah, of course. >> exactly. >> this is -- >> this is the story out of ferguson is like, yeah, diversity does not fix it. >> certainly a wonderful and important thing is having more diverse police sources, but not for nothing, most of the graduating classes going back several years now of nypd are majority/minority. majority of people and that's happening in large police forces around the country. because since the lat

pauled that in. third and ten. two shots at it from the 19 yard line. third down. plenty of time. in the endzone. touchdown, raiders! bryce butler, wide open! >> how did that happen? no rush. no rush. >> great possession. four-man rush. everybody else is back in coverage. >> the butler did it. we're not done yet. are we worried about a 33-yard extra point? this is not your garden variety extra point. remember, the whole reason this is a chance to win the game, their guy has kicked it off the upright. janikowski, up. extra point is good! the raiders lead 27-26! >> you have to admire mcgloin because he just turned and put his hands up, like, well. >> here it is, our california ford dealers play of the game. matt mcgloin to wide-open brice butler. touchdown. >> what composure by that young man mcgloin. sit back in the pocket, found butler wide open in the endzone. >> wasn't always easy, but we did it. 13 plays, 68 yards. >> matt: mcgloin to brice butler for the assumed game winner with 16 seconds to go. cover this. a reminder, one last time, cracking down on drunk driving. if there's one thing you can be sure of, they'll see you before you see

butlers are expected to pop up at hotels. >> personalized service. >> i need a toothbrush again. [ laughter ] >> abuse the system! [ laughter ] >>> it is 4:56. farewell to candlestick park. paul will host of the stadium's final event tonight and we have a live report coming up from the stick next. >> reporter: and a sex ed book proves to be a little too hot and heavy for folks in fremont. i'm kiet do. we have a live report coming up. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, >>> sex education is important but this book has crossed the line. >> the fremont unified school district has decided not to give a textbook with explicit sexual content. the decision came under pressure from parents. student will get a revised version of that book eventually. >> demonstrators took to the streets again last night in ferguson, missouri, to protest the police shooting of an unarmed teen. the city had asked protestors to stay off the streets last night. >> 14th every august, candlestick, let's do it! >> and music legend paul mccartney will put on the final performance at candlestick park tonight. a crowd of almost 50,000 people is expected. mccartney also performed at candlestick park back in 1966. it was the beatle

there was paul sarbanes from baltimore who was very involved in shaping article ii and they worked together and they were republicans, caldwell butler, hogan, also, larry hogan from maryland and they turned the rails back. before hand we saw the sort of average figures, house members, nobody had done anything outstanding, a sort of very plain spoken, not terribly eloquent man and they all rose and took it very seriously and we took them very seriously and they reached this bipartisan agreement that the country accepted. i can tell you afterwards i had dinner with one of these heroes to clear up questions for the book. they invited me to this cocktail party on the hill and was a lobbyist party and he started telling me stories about how people really want to get on the judiciary committee because they are such wonderful trips you could take all over the world and some of the stuff that went on that would not be fit to print, this all proved to me they were real normal people who when the occasion came, they rose to it. this was true of the staff. it was a complicated thing to keep under control. i don't know if anybody remembers seei