paul flynn was first elected as mp for newport west in 1987.was one of the longest—serving welsh mps and was a strong campaigner against the iraq war and for the medicinal use of cannabis. he announced in october that he had planned to step down because of failing health. the mp for cardiff central jo stevens has paid tribute to mr flynn, saying, "so very sad to hear that my lovely colleague paul flynn mp has died.

it's been announced in the last few minutes that the labour mp paul flynn has died aged 8a. ath was announced by his local association — newport west labour — which said "paul is a hero to many of us in the newport labour family and we mourn for his family's loss." paul flynn was first elected as mp for newport west in 1987. he was one of the longest—serving welsh mps and was a strong campaigner against the iraq war and for the medicinal use of cannabis. he announced in october that he had planned to step down because of failing health. the mp for cardiff central jo stevens has paid tribute to mr flynn, saying, "so very sad to hear that my lovely colleague paul flynn mp has died. a kind, principled, fascinating man who was devoted to his constituents & constituency." labour leaderjeremy corbyn has also said this message... now on bbc news, the film review. hello there, welcome to the film review here on bbc news. taking us through this week's cinema releases is mark kermode. mark, what delights do you have? a mixed bag. we have the kid who would be king, which is an arthurian

and tributes for paul flynn, a very individual member of parliament. ul was the most free—range, organic of politicians, and we should all aspire to follow his example. but first: the home secretary, sajid javid, has said there "must be consequences" for people like 19—year—old shamima begum, who fled to syria four years ago to help the so—called islamic state group. shamima begum was one of the schoolgirls from bethanl green in london who went to syria to sign up with the jihadists. she's been criticised for not being remorseful about her decision. she says she doesn't regretjoining is. she's now in a refugee camp. at the weekend, she gave birth to her third child, a baby boy, who she wants to bring back to the uk. her first two children both died from malnutrition. asked to make an urgent commons statement, sajid javid was firm about his view of anyone who'd gone tojoin is. whatever role they took in the so—called caliphate, they all supported a terrorist organisation. and in doing so, they have shown they hate our country and the values that we stand

i am sure the hall will join me in paying tribute to our former colleague paul flynn. he was an outstanding parliamentarian, tireless campaigner, champion of wales. he spent the last majority of his career writing a helpful guide in his book, knowledge before being made shadow leader of the house and shadow secretary of state for wales. he will be remembered for one of the great parliamentary quotes when he left the front bench in 2016. our glorious leader in an act of by diverse city courageously decided to give opportunities for geriatrics on the front bench. so successful he decided create opportunities for geriatrics on the back bench. this morning i have meetings with ministerial colleagues in this house later today. >> for my former constituency, neighbor, friend and paul flynn. he was a remarkable man, one of the great parliament aryans, and inspiration to many of us. must have seen something in me. i am rebellious, not as rebellious as him but he was a great man who will be missed by all of us. in the midst of political crisis, more important we put our country

could i start byjoining in paying tribute to my friend i'm yours, paul flynn.nt bench, she came to the first meeting and welcomed to me my diversity project to promote octogenarian study shadow cabinet. his book on how to become an mp is absolutely a must read. he was respected all across this house, and i think we are all going to miss his contributions and his wit and his wisdom. my deepest condolences to his wife, sam, and all of his family and all of his wider family across newport and wales. he was a truly wonderful man and a great idea friend. i also hope, mr speaker, that the house willjoin me in paying tribute to the baroness who died earlier this month and sending condolences to her friends and family. when marcia served with distinction as political secretary to harold wilson, she was subjected to harold wilson, she was subjected toa to harold wilson, she was subjected to a long campaign of misogynistic smear and innuendo. i to a long campaign of misogynistic smearand innuendo. ithink to a long campaign of misogynistic smear and innuendo. i think she

we have the death of paul flynn. what happens if labour loses?t could have implications to the brecon strategy. it particular report is saying that if the strategy does alter, as a result of the split, the result of the by—election, that could alter is position on brexit. there could be changes afoot, but there is a huge amount of uncertainty out there, it is very difficult to see which way it will fall. one of the key aspect isi it will fall. one of the key aspect is i guess to watch here is whether there will be more mps quit the labour party, whether the calls for tory mps to join independence is actually going to make a difference. that's right. not only that, but willie draw votes into the tory party or will it not? some analysis says actually although the labour party is now smaller and less likely to win the next election, some a nalysts to win the next election, some analysts say, no, people are disgruntled, voters who may have voted tory, mabel they will vote independence as well. there is a huge amount of uncertainty. what do people mak

we have the death of paul flynn. what happens if labour loses? the brecon strategy. it particular report is saying that if the strategy does alter, as

tributes have been paid to the labour mp paul flynn, who's died at the age of 8a.ort west, in wales, for more than 30 years. the labour leader, jeremy corbyn, called him an "independent thinker", who'd be greatly missed. firefighters have tackled a large blaze on moorland in greater manchester overnight. at its height, the fire covered 100 square metres of a hill near stalybridge, close to the scene of last summer's major fires. it was extinguished within two and a half hours. the cause is not yet known. one of the world's most successful track athletes, caster semenya, will today challenge in court controversial plans to limit testosterone levels in female athletes. the sport's governing body wants athletes with a higher—than—normal level of male hormones to take medication before they compete, to ensure races are fair. 0ur sport news correspondent, richard conway reports. caster semenya has been dominant in the 800 metres for the past decade. the south african star has won gold at the olympics and, this autumn, she wants another world championship medal. but that

tributes have been paid to labour mp paul flynn who has died at the age of 8a.ented his constituents of newport west in wales for more than 30 years. the labour party leader mattjeremy corbyn called him an independent thinker who would be greatly missed. we have heard all about firefighters who have been called to rescue a cat stuck up a tree, but not usually like this... this is a mountain lion spot perched on a branch 50 feet up in the air near a house in california. fire crews had to tranquilize it and lower it down with a harness before releasing it back into the wild. a cat up a tree story! now, back to samira. thank you, carrie. a group of labour mps is expected to announce their departure from the labour party. this is the scene in westminster. we willjoin them shortly when there is an we willjoin them shortly when there is an announcement. we willjoin them shortly when there is an announcement. at first... —— but first... a group of mps leading an inquiry into fake news say big tech companies are "failing in the duty of care they owe to their users to" a

the death was also announced of 84—year—old labour mp paul flynn, he was first elected in 1987.nt to the shadow cabinet whenjeremy corbyn gave him the job of shadow leader of the house. you may be a tad surprised to see me in this position, because for the past 26 years, i've been a backbencher by choice and that wasn'tjust my choice, it was the choice of the past five leaders of my party. but today for very positive reasons, as part of a diversity project, in my party of which we have done splendidly, we have far more women on the front bench and in parliament and ever before, though not enough, far more ethnic minorities, but we have a total absence on the front bench of octogenarians. in prime minister's questions, there were tributes from the party leaders. he was an outstanding parliamentarian, a tireless campaigner and championed his consistency of newport west and wales with energy and enthusiasm for over 30 years. his book on how to become an mp is absolutely a must read. he was respected all across this house and we are all going to miss his contributions and his wit an

tributes have been paid to the veteran labour mp paul flynn who's died aged 8a.said mr flynn was a "credit" to the party. natwest has apologised after a woman who telephoned to apply for a loan was told that "all vegans should be punched in the face". the customer, who's from bristol, wanted a loan to pay for a nutrition diploma. the bank said the outburst by a member of staff, which came after the customer told him she was a vegan — was "wholly inappropriate". one of the world's most successful track athletes, caster semenya, is challenging controversial plans to limit testosterone levels in female athletes. the sport's governing body wants athletes with a higher—than—normal level of male hormones to take medication before they compete, to ensure races are fair. it's a case which will have a huge impact on both semenya's career, and the whole sport. our correspondent richard conway is at the hearing in switzerland. on one level, this case is about caster semenya and her future. on one level, this case is about caster semenya and herfuture. will she be able to co

i am sure the hall will join me in paying tribute to our former colleague paul flynn.was an outstanding parliamentarian, tireless ai

taking aside the timing about paul flynn, but taking the content of what they said, as i said to chrisments, words like betrayal, irresponsible, racism, are some of those accusations fair? i think the language was very strong. i think those of us in the parliamentary labour party will feel very sad. i personally feel very sad and very disappointed at this morning's news. i value the support and friendship and camaraderie of many of the collea g u es and camaraderie of many of the colleagues who have left but they have made personal decisions based on their personal views. i don't agree with them. i think in order to change our party and make it better, we do have some problems. we have a problem with dealing with anti—semitism in our party. i believe we need to do that together, collectively, and i feel very believe we need to do that together, collectively, and ifeel very sad this morning at seven colleagues have decided that they can't continue within the labour party. you see disappointed but are you disappointed that your leader has failed to glue these people into the party from m

tributes have been paid to the veteran labour mp paul flynn who‘s died, aged 8a.that "all vegans should be punched in the face". the customer, who‘s from bristol, wanted a loan to pay for a nutrition diploma. the bank said the outburst by a member of staff, which came after the customer told him she was a vegan — was "wholly inappropriate". the impact plastic is having on our environment was highlighted dramatically by the bbc documentary series blue planet. now the government has unveiled plans for how it thinks the uk could cut down on its use. ministers want to introduce a new tax on plastic packaging, alongside a ‘deposit return‘ scheme for cans and bottles. but large retailers have been accused of trying to water down the proposals, as our environment analyst, roger harrabin reports. plastic litter harms marine life so the government is introducing a deposit return scheme for bottles and also cans. small, on—the—go bottles are the most likely to appear in the sea so retailers want the deposit restricted to those small containers, but environmentalists say man

in the midst of all this, is anyone pausing for thought to remember paul flynn, who of course died yesterday labour mp for newport west, had been in parliament since 1987 after a 30 year career in the steel industry. a hugely popular and big character, very independent minded. a prolific writer and author and tweeter and blogger, proud to be and tweeter and blogger, proud to be a backbencher for the vast majority of his career. a well developed sense of humour. had a brief stint on the front bench for labour when there were loads of resignations in there were loads of resignations in the immediate aftermath of the eu referendum, and he tweeted that it was a nod to a desire for diversity in this era, because it was the promotion of an octogenarian. he had suffered from arthritis for years and years and that left him bedbound for his last few months. he said a few months ago he would resign at an opportune moment. and it was difficult for him to continue the practical work of being an mp but, yes, reflections from the labour leadership, jeremy corbyn, marking his passing, from the welsh secret

really always been lingering behind these indictments and guilty pleas of people like michael flynn and paul manafort. the times is now reporting that pardons were in fact discussed with their lawyers in the summer of 2017 when one of trump's lawyers reportedly reached out to the attorneys for manafort and flynn to discuss these possible pardons. think about the timing here. summer of 2017, this was well before paul manafort's trial in virginia. it was before michael flynn really fully cooperated with the special counsel prosecutors. so this really does raise some questions about the president perhaps dangling these pardons to influence their decisions about whether to plead guilty or even how much or whether to fully cooperate with the special counsel here. >> sure raises a whole host of questions. thank you, jessica. joining me for more is a former fbi special agent and cnn legal and national security analyst. let's just start right there with what jessica was talking about. is there another reason to reach out and discuss a possible pardon from the president's legal team if it is not to i

it is just this fundamental question, paul manafort, michael flynn, why did they lie? what sticks out to me about this is, let's not forget that in the roger stone indictment it said a senior campaign official directed someone else to get in touch with roger stone about what wikileaks had. it didn't include this information that he actually did make direct contact with wikileaks. it raises that extra question of, okay, who else on the campaign was aware of these communications and what they were talking about? >> prior to this, we knew that roger stone was in touch with -- >> intermediaries. >> exactly. >> that's how the special counsel in the charges certainly, that's how they made it seem. other information indicated it was intermediaries. >> you said the important distinction would be if he was directing, guiding the release. what if he was just receiving guidance about when things were going to happen? >> that's a fair legal question. >> we want to be careful. roger stone has not been charged for underlying conduct. the reason why it's potentially of interest to in

trump's lawyers also reached out to lawyers for paul manafort and mr. flynn to discuss possible pardons. the discussions raised questions about whether the president was willing to offer pardons to influence their decisions about whether to plead guilty and cooperate in the mueller investigation. that is remarkable. the president has tweeted indications about what he has liked when witnesses have been resistant to the special counsel and things he hasn't liked. >> this is something that both the "new york times" and the "washington post" originally reported last year, was that during that summer of 2017, the lawyer for the president, john dowd, had the sort of informal discussions with lawyers both for flynn and for paul manafort. and this wasn't really as we understand it a direct quid pro quo, don't cooperate with the special counsel and in exchange you'll get a pardon. but it was exploring the possibility of a pardon. this is significant in part because it's part of this pattern of activity that we tried to document in the story about the president kind of

flynn. and trump is told that paul ryan said that the president asked for flynn's resignation.picer and the other aides are saying, well, you know, what was it? and trump says, that's sounds better, you know, let's go with that. so without it really being clear of what the truth was. sort of this indifference to the truth. sort of culture that pervaded the president's businesses and the campaign that is then seeping into the white house, it's like, hey, let's just tell the best story possible for us. to put the best spin on it with sort of less interest in what the truth was. >> do you uncover in the piece what happens between that meeting in the oval office when trump says that sounds better to spicer? andit's unclear whether it's true or not. and the counsel's office writing out all of the -- it sounds like there are multiple inaccuracies. are there open questions? is mueller probing how the account that was false came to be? >> one of the things mueller has been interested in was there other interactions between spicer and the president in between those meetings? because spi

paul manafort, michael flynn, cohen, were all prosecutors making false statements to federal investigators don't see why mccabe's case is really any different than those. >> i can make another point here which i think is important? look, if you go back to why jim comey was southern popul comey was so unpopular, it's because he took us inside an investigation and made critical judgments about hillary clinton and her handling of the e-mail server in explaining why they didn't bring any charges. you don't do that. because you're prejudicing the investigation. the investigation concluded no charges, you don't talk. that's the policy. the problem with this really on both sides is that mccabe is saying, oh, well we don't know if he's a russian asset but that was why we investigated it. but there's no conclusions of that. we have a mueller investigation to look at this critical question. so he's doing something that feels inappropriate. by the way, republicans did the same thing. they pushed for the release of classified information related to the investigation. so we're all being taken inside th

flynn might be subject to blackmail, as the group in fact in the oval office talked, they mentioned what paulr of the house told reporters which is that mr. trump had asked mr. flynn to resign. it was under -- excuse me, it was unclear where speaker ryan got that information but president trump seized on mr. ryan's words, that sounds better the president said according to people with knowledge. many trump turned to the white house secretary to break the news media, say that mr. trump ordered. but was that true mr. spicer pressed? say that i asked for his resignation, mr. trump repeated. and after that, sean spicer in fact walked out to brief reporters on mike flynn's leaving the white house the previous night resigning the previous night. he told reporters the president asked for flynn's resignation. apparently that was not true the president did not ask for flynn to resign. oh, spicer also told reporters that the white house exhaustively investigated flynn after they receive that warning from the justice department according to white house lawyers concerned about mr. spicer's comments at the

people like michael flynn, paul manafort. his campaignmaager. michael cohen, his personal lawyer. so if this is a witch hunt, mueller's found a koeccoven at . po there are smaller ones, like jerome kor si. and bigg eger fish, as well. and then you have qwhstions abou's the report going to say? >> and i want to get to that. sol, rudy giulia said he hasn't heard from him -- the special counsel's office now, in about a month since they turned in the answers of their question. the lack of communication. should thatr make theident nervous? >> i think it should make him nervous. but in answer to one of your questions to neal, i think that -- it's difficult m for to imagine that let's taketronald p jr. if mueller was going to indict donald trump ifjr., it'scult for me to imagine that he would ait until after a report was filed to do that. so -- i think -- once that rert is filed, you know -- there won't be any more indictments from mueller's shot. as opposed to southern district of new york. >>that's a different story? >> that's a different story. a lot of people have be indicted and ple

flynn might be subject to blackmail by the russians for misleading white house officials about his russian contacts. as the group in the oval office talked, one of trump's advisers mentioned in passing what paulspeaker of the house, had told reporters, which is that mr. trump had asked mr. flynn to resign. it was under -- excuse me. it was unclear where speaker ryan had gotten that information, but president trump seized on mr. ryan's words. quote, that sounds better, the president said, according to people with knowledge of the discussions. mr. trump turned to the white house press secretary at the time, sean spicer, who was preparing to brief the news media. say that, mr. trump ordered. but was that true, mr. spicer pressed? say that i asked for his resignation, mr. trump repeated. and after that sean spicer in fact walked out to brief reporters on mike flynn's leaving the white house the previous night, resigning the previous night. he told reporters that flythe president asked for flynn's resignation. apparently that was not true. the president did not ask for flynn to resign. oh. spicer also told reporters that the white house exhaustively investigated flynn after they received that warn

flynn? was it paul manafort, i know you were trying to figure that out. >> really cultivating the candidate, he was one of the only people from the foreign policy establishment that was going up to the 26th floor tower. you knew he was against the administration because of his hard break them. and you know that paul manafort was in the candidates ear. he was running the ship. on foreign policy, he was so undeveloped as a candidate that people like flynn could go into the void. nobody was was saying, nobody in the foreign policy community was saying this at this point. >> i was woken from my vacation reverie. what he said was outrageous. he is basically spouting the russian line saying well, these people are russian speakers and they want to be part of russia, that is irrelevant. >> they're spanish speakers -- does that mean they believe to march across the border. it was fourth and flynn. >> was there any mainstream american foreign policy person pushing this? >> they may have said there was a little bit of truth, russian to the extent that there was a lot of russians that were based there.

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his lawyer had conversations with other witnesses like paul manafort and mike flynn about bar don pardons. while all of this happening, everything he can do to publicly to trash the investigation. he called the mueller probe a witch hunt over 157 times. according to "the new york times," the president's legal team does not think he could be indicted, they believe the real threat is impeachment. the strategy is to convince the public is trump is the true victim here. which leads us to the big question today, will the president listen to the evidence or judge the president themselves. tom winter and eli stokal and kimberley atkins and paul charleson. >> eli, this had been going on for two years since the campaign started and donald trump was looked into why of every turn if the president is innocent, had he gone under the investigation. why is that the best strategy? >> i mean -- >> according to the white house or his legal team. >> it is a tough question figuring out the why donald trump hdoes the things he does. >> that's right, he has behaved in every turn, a person needs to get out in f

trump's lawyers also reached out that summer to the lawyers of two of his former aides, paul manafort and mr. flynnss possible pardons. the discussions raised questions about whether the president was willing to offer pardons for to influence their decisions about whether to plead guilty and to cooperate in the mueller investigation. talk to me about that, asha. >> i think this goes directly to what he just said, dangling this is obstruction. the president has broad pardon power. he can actually pardon someone, he can do the act. but to hold it out there as an incentive for someone to behave had a certain way, give testimony in a certain way, cooperate or not cooperate, it's almost a certain bribery, using your power to try to get a personal gain. again, i think this is incredibly problematic. one thing i'll add just to give a bigger picture to what juliette and renato are getting at, i just want to also point out that there are few countries on this planet, maybe none other where the president can be investigated in the way that the fbi and the department of justice are doing now and that they hav

have been related to any alleged collusion with russia you've got individuals like paul metaphor roger stone and michael flynn who've been in. cited for among other things making false statements to the investigators they haven't uncovered anything related to the crime that bob mueller was originally investigating however the investigation itself has led to new crimes being committed so despite the fact that not much has really been discovered over the course of the last two years there are some who are expecting that the final report will contain smoking gun revelations that will topple the administration or maybe not the investigation when completed could turn out to be quiet and comerica not draw a conclusion about that again i don't know so the final report will draw a line in the sand and everyone can just move on can't they if he finds that there was no direct collusion between the trump campaign and russia well we're going to have to do our own investigation and we are a short moeller report would mark the end of the beginning not the beginning of the end this saga for the president it's legal saga doe

paul manafort and mike flynn and others.t know that bob mueller is going to find there was collusion to try to get donald trump elected. i suspect what's going to happen is we're going to find that there were people around the president who were really trying to get rich off of this, get rich off of a presidential run, not expecting him to win. and well, then they got caught by winning. >> all right. let's follow that up, mark thompson. say that they were just trying to get rich and they were surprised that trump won. and i do believe trump was surprised that he won. but the question then becomes, now they are all being -- many of them, not all -- are being prosecuted for lying. why don't they just say that and rather than try to mislead the investigators and try and act as though certain things that clearly happen did not happen, and tried to say that. because now it gives us reason to say, well, if you won't be transparent, then maybe there was those trying to get rich. >> i think that's absolutely accurate, reverend al. p

flynn. one of mr. trump's advisors mentioned in passing paul ryan, then speaker of the house, had told reporters. that mr. trump had asked mr. flynn to resign. it was unclear where mr. ryan had gotten that information, but mr. trump seized on mr. ryan's words. that sounds better. mr. trump turned to sean spicer, say that, mr. trump ordered. but was that true, spicer pressed. say i asked for his resignation mr. trump repeat. betsy you've covered this administration for some time now. does that surprise you at all? >> it's not particularly surprising that trump would hear somebody say something on tv and then seize on it. what i think is pretty extraordinary about what the times has reported is that spicer then went to the podium in the white house press room and made a number of claims that the white house's own lawyers believed were not true. and that those lawyers memorialized the failure of spicer to correctly and truthfully describe the way flynn's firing played out. remember, flynn's departure from the white house is a pivotal moment in the early weeks of the trump administration. it was a hug

. >> unlike paul manafort and mike flynn and others who have pled guilty, no one can argue that michael cohen, hey, we hardly knew you. hey, you don't really know your facts here. he served for many years as chief con sig leary, chief lawyer -- i will put that in quotes because i'm not sure how much law they were upholding or following, chief business fixer for donald trump and the trump organization. when michael cohen talks, it comes with a certain level of authority. and i think donald trump fundamentally knows that. if i were the chairman of the committee, i basically lean back and say, mr. cohen, have you seen any shady business at the trump organization? and let the guy talk. >> the president's friends said since cohen became a household name for those of us who covered this president, this was the guy, it wasn't mueller who kept trump up at night. it may now be. but at the time cohen eef's off were raided, people closest to the president said this is the guy, this is the guy who did the dirty, embarrassing stuff that really gets under the president's skin. >> that's right. it's b

john dowd, his attorney, was accused of that with michael flynn and paul manafort a year and a half agohave a mueller prosecutor saying, look, this might have happened in some way, shape or form. now, it's redacted, we don't know everything, but, boy, that is a big, big deal. >> you put it so clearly. congresswoman, i'm over on time, but i want to give you the benefit of responding to that. there is a broad pardon power, but if it were being offered in exchange for a potential federal crime, according to mueller's folks, in you view, would that be an abuse of power? >> absolutely. i don't have any doubt that's exactly what happened. now, i don't have the proof, but do i have doubt? i don't. >> congresswoman bass, who was all over the hearing there. thank you for sharing with us your views. neil katyal, thank you. >>> new blackmailing and extortion allegations regarding stolen photos from jeff bezos that could impact his immunity deal right here in the southern district of new york. in 30 seconds, i bring in a former editor for the "enquirer" to get into it. nquirer" to get into it >>> t

suffered the consequences of having so many close and in this case high level in the form of paul manafort and michael flynn, advisers who have both lied, obstructed justice, he would be deeply tainted by it. the reality is it's all political. but what -- there are two things here that i want to point out. there is polling that americans are deeply concerned about this investigation. so to suggest that it's only the media and democrats misses what the polls say, but more importantly, adam schiff had a very powerful opinion piece in "the washington post" about how fully this is about our democracy and how ow democracy operates. so the idea that any party would not be open-minded about concerns about the institutions of democracy is critically important and he was calling republicans to pay attention to patriotism to the country over party. and the thing -- and i just want to make this point about the regs because it's a very important point. if to this point william bar has an obligation to tell congress if he did not agree with an indictment that robert mueller wanted to bring. >> he has that obligation? >>

donald trump conducted himself like this, particularly if pardons were dangled in front of paul manafort and mike flynn, you have to assume the possibility of a pardon is the last thing he thinks about as he doses off at night. what to make of the line of questioning pursued about mueller's prosecutors and as a.b. is talking about, the sort of guardrail that shows up again and again in the form of these federal judges in these cases in the mueller sort of trial settings? >> right, i think one of the interesting challenges of some of these cases is i think a lot of times lawyers in between think in terms of strategy and goals and how to achieve those goals. but a lot of what comes up in these cases is actually just defendant's behavior. it's not necessarily about strategy and it's not necessarily any clear goal, it's just their behavior. so i think you see that certainly with this stone thing and i think a lot of what investigators spent their time trying to unwrap is this behavior -- and this is going to apply to a large category of stuff, is this behavior trying to deliberately mess with the investiga

>> it's a pattern of lies from paul manafort, michael cohen, michael flynn, george papadopoulos.t's the white house's answer to why so many lies specifically about russia, multiple lies about it? i know they try to use this process crime argument that they were caught in not remembering things, but let's be frank. this is all about russia. the lies are all about russia. does the white house have an answer? >> what's happened over time is they have shifted the explanations over the last two years of the extent of the contacts between trump associates and russian officials. i just remember hope hicks saying right during the transition there were no contacts at all. we have clearly seen how this has evolved over the last two years and how the investigations have unfolded over time. i think if anything, what the president may have to say about manafort would be really interesting. he hasn't said anything so far as i can tell. often times, the president has treated paul manafort and his legal woes differently than other people in the circle such as michael cohen. i remember being on t

paul manafort and mike flynn were liars eligible for pardons at one point. if you're to believe that john dowd dangled pardons innen front of those witnesses. >> michael cohen, no pardon or ever want a pardon. what people are going to see tomorrow, nobody heard from michael cohen other than the few minutes he spent with stephanopoulos. nobody has seen what i have seen, some other people have seen, is a very apologetic, different man, who saw he was on the wrong road who right now, it's not about telling the truth to save himself. he's going to prison. so if anything, he's -- the only way he can get into trouble yesterday, today, and tomorrow, is basically lying. so he has no incentive. nobody's taking -- they're not going to just say, okay, your prison sentence has gone away because you've told the truth, but they will add to this prison sentence if he lies. >> have you seen his public opening statement for tomorrow? >> i'm familiar with some of the things he's going to do and it's really compelling. i think because what you're going to see if you watch him,

including michael cohen, michael flynn, rick gates, paul manafort, george papadopoulos, and roger stone. mueller has brought 199 total criminal charges in all, and there still are a lot more questions to be answered. and there's a lot to talk about. matthew rosenberg is here to discuss, midwin charles, and max boot. get ready. fasten your seat belts. it's going to be a bumpy night. ♪ now audible members get free fitness and wellness programs to transform your mind and body. download the audible app and start listening today. ♪ peroni italia. ♪ enhanced with cinemastream for less buffering and smoother streaming. cinemasound for audio up to 60% louder with 260% more perceived bass. and cinemacolor with dolby vision to bring your entertainment to life with ultra vivid colors and stunning contrast. experience the incredible color, sound and streaming of dell cinema. shop the biggest presidents day ever at dell.com. ♪ [cell phone rings] where are you? well the squirrels are back in the attic. mom? your dad won't call an exterminator... can i call you back, mom? he says it's personal this ti