throwing himself in the back of the car, he is now on the record saying in 2014, nine years ago, paul landis on a gurney as we were leaving parkland hospital. that story from landis grew in scope size and drama as he was trying to sell a book deal which he now has coming out in october. i believe the original story that he told clint hill and that's the one we should focus on. >> he also provided an account, right, closer in time to the incident that is contradicted by the version that he is sharing today. i'm not casting i hope i'm not casting aspersions on his account. i believe having watched him, that he believes what he is now saying. take me off the here and react to what i'm offering. >> no question, he is sincere and he believes it but michael we have many instances not just with the kennedy assassination but others in which individuals who were witnesses to traumatic events later read accounts or talk to other people, see documentaries, and new memories become a part of their old memories. they could pass a lie detector test about the sincerity, they just happen to be wrong and here

hey, jake, so paul landis with that secret service agent who was in the car directly behind presidentwhat did he tell you in this interview that he saw that day? >> well, on dealy plaza he said he heard three shots, and they came from behind him. and above. and i asked him, do you think there was a second gunman? he said he did not think there was. although in a different interview with a new york times peter baker, he allowed for the possibility maybe there was. but with me, he was more definitive he did not think there was. >> that is really interesting. i think that is one of the big questions that some historians who look at this raised, which was there really isn't a lot of forensic evidence to suggest there was a second gunman. he also in his book reveals this intact bullet in the limousine, and he moved it. here is what he told you. >> i started to put it back, and i hesitated for a moment, i had looked around and the back area, i saw no secret service agents there to secure the car. and we were getting ready to exit the limo, and i did not want to leave the bullet they are bec

that assertion has kicked up a debate over the so-called magic bullet and paul landis joins us now.e car behind kennedy. what do you remember about the shots being fired? >> i was on the right rear bumper of the followup car. we had just completed a turn onto elm street. and the two cars, the president's limo were just straightening out when i heard a violent report that i recognized as coming from a high-power rifle. i immediately turned, looked over my shoulder to the right, where the sound had come from. and i couldn't see anything right away. i turned quickly and looked at the president, and president kennedy was kind of leaning a little bit to his left, towards mrs. kennedy. there was a second shot. again, there was -- i saw no reaction from where i was inside the president's limo. and we were starting to move at a little higher rate of speed, when hill was racing towards the president's limo. and almost immediately after the second shot, there was a third report. we passed under the overpass and raced from there to parkland memorial hospital. >> yeah. i want to get to what hap

paul landis, raising questions about the warren commission's magic bullet theory, saying, a single bullet also, injured texas governor, john connally. here is how landis described what happened to our own jake tapper. >> i heard a loud report that i recognized as coming from a high to -- high powered rifle. i, immediately, looked over my shoulder, to the right, where the sound had come from. i couldn't see anything right away, and i looked at the president, and president kennedy was leaning towards the left of mrs. kennedy. >> i want to bring in cnn, jake tapper. hi, jake, paul landis was the secret service agent who is in the car directly behind president kennedy's limousine. what did he tell you in this interview that he saw that day? >> on dealey plaza, he said, he heard three shots, and they came from behind him, and above. i asked him, do you think there was a second gunman and he said, he did not think there was. although, in a different interview with the new york times, peter baker, he allowed for the possibility that there might be. however, with me, he was more definitive. >> th

former secret service agent paul landis joins me now. so paul, why did you grab the bullet?s worried that it would disappear and that a souvenir hunt er or somebody would pick it up and take it. >> jesse: why are you coming forward now after all this time? >> just happened. i reached the point where i had not talked about the bullet. i had not read any -- i did not read the warren commission until four years ago. i just accepted the fact that whatever they were talking about, a magic bullet, i figured they had to have it right. nobody ever questioned me. nobody ever called me over 60 years. >> jesse: do you believe there was another shooter besides oswald that day? >> not yet, no, nothing changed my mind to think that there's another shooter. i heard the first shot. turned and looked over my right shoulder where the sound came from. turned back, i looked to president kennedy. he was leaning slightly to his left and he had his arms raised up towards his throat. but i just thought -- i thought the first shot had hit him. but i'm quickly scanning around and then a few seconds l

so it was, paul, you've got to make a decision, and i grabbed it. but landiset may have rolled from kennedy's gurney to connolly's, meaning it may not have been the bullet that injured connolly. >> dr. aguilar you studied this case for years. how significant is this? >> i think this is a significant piece of new evidence to support the idea there was more than one gunman. >> reporter: clint hill the secret service agent who climbed on the back of the limo after kennedy was shot, questions landis' story. why do you have doubts about his account? >> because if you check all the evidence, the statements, things that happened, they don't line up. it doesn't make any sense to me that he's trying to put it on the president's gurney. >> reporter: but landis, who was not available for an interview with nbc news, tells "the times" he made mistakes in his initial reports. he says he has been afraid to share his true story until now. kate? >> liz kreutz, thank you. >>> we are back in a moment with the future of school safety. moment with the future of school safety. how

paul landis says he found the bullet that hit kennedy and he does not believe that same bullet hit texason determined. landis says he placed a bullet on kennedy's stretcher and it may have later rolled onto connally's. stretcher sajeed resting. there may have been another gunman who hit connally, but another agent in dallas that day is dismissed. >> landis claim saying the evidence and the statements just don't line up. next, let's check out the big moments from week one of the nfl. >> yeah, first, a giant loss for new york. the dallas cowboys pummeled the giants last night, 42. nothing the giants had not lost by that many points since 1973. >> another sunday shocker involves joe burrow one day after signing his record breaking contract extension, the bengals quarterback threw for a career low 82 yards in a blowout loss to the browns. >> the good news here in new england, tom brady returned to foxboro. the patriots retired his number 12. brady says he knows why his team won six super bowls. >> it's one of my core beliefs. there's nothing significant in life that can be accomplished as an

the thumb nilenail, after the w paul landis was in turmoil, taking care of jackie kennedy. after that, he was assigned to take care of her. jackie kennedy could not silt down after the assassination. paul was having severe ptsd. he saw the president's head explode. he was looping in his head over and over. he couldn't sleep. he left six months later and did not want to look back. he read nothing about the assassination until 2014. when he read a book, he saw it had a critical fact wrong. he began his odyssey and his journey to write his book. >> no one questioned him? he didn't have an interview to talk about this? in light of him being on the scene, nobody asked the details before then? >> remarkably enough, the warren commission did not interview him. and the fbi did not interview him. there were several agents in that follow car who were never interviewed. they were the closest witnesses to what happened. paul was on the side of the follow-up car. he was a direct witness. he discovers a bullet and bullet fragments that are critical to what happened here and nobody questio

it was paul, you've got to make a decision. landis. >> i think this is a significant piece of evidence to support the idea that there was more than one gunman. >> clint hill who climbed on the back of the limo when kennedy was shot questions landis's story. >> why do you have doubts about his account? >> because if you check all the evidence, the statements, things that happened, they don't line up. it doesn't make any sense to me that he's trying to put it on the president's gurney. >> we've got a lot to cover in our second hour of "chris jansing reports." let's get right to it. >>> at this hour, rescue teams using their bare hands to dig through collapsed buildings in morocco after a powerful earthquake killed nearly 2,700 people, the new images of the destruction as scared residents sleep in the streets. also ahead, remembering 9/11, the new technology being used to identify victims 22 years after the attacks that changed the country. >>> plus, day 12 in the man hunt for an escaped killer in pennsylvania. police about to hold a pre

he says paul, you've got to make a decision and i grabbed it. landis from kennedy's gurney to connolly's meaning it may not have been the bullet that injured connolly. >> dr. aguilar you studied this case for years. how significant is this? >> i think this is a significant piece of new evidence to sport the idea there was more than one gunman. >> reporter: clint hill, the secret service agent who climbed on the back of the limo after kennedy was shot questions landis's story. >> why do you have doubts about his account? >> because if you check all the evidence statements, things that happened, they don't line up. it doesn't make any sense to me that he's trying to put it on the president's gurney. >> fascinating. our thanks to liz kreutz with that reporting. that's going to do it for us, see you tomorrow. i'm ana cabrera reporting from new york. josÉ diaz-balart picks up our coverage right now. >>> and good morning, it is 11:00 a.m. eastern, 8:00 a.m. pacific, i'm josÉ diaz-balart right now in morocco, rescuers desperately searching for survivors more

that'sso what former secret service agent paul landis is insinuating in his new memoir . memoir >> the final witness, landis, was just feet away from the formeras feet e president when he was shot. he was assigned to protect the first lady , jackie o,ady and was riding with the presidential motorcade in dallas whenng witth the shot, out. landis sprung into action in all the chaosrang int. >> he says he found a bullet lodged into the seatto of, jfk's limo, and dug it out. >> not sure what to do with itdt . >> landis pocketed the intact bullet before heading to the hospital pteintact . spital pteintact there he placed it on jfk stretcher. placewhere landis claims it fef and landed with the texas governor, where it was later found. >> the warren commission would assumeen commi the bullet fell t of governor connally and so sprung the magic bullet theory.e but if the bullet that hit jfk is throat was found in the car, does that mean there were more than three shots fired that day? anand was there a second shoote? >> former secret service agent l landis joins me now. >> so, pau

paul landis, who is now 88 ars old, says that one the hospital he found the bullet that struck kennedyimousine ehind where the president was sitting. he says that he put that next to kennedy on the ctur but the government report by the warrssn says that the same bullet that struck kennedy exited his throat and then struck texas governor sean connally. with me now are too kennedy historians who stand on different sides of this very debate. various rooks tool believes that lee harvey oswald acted alone, but jefferson morley says that landis's new theory is possible. jefferson, i want to start with you first. both of you, first of all, thank you for being here. jefferson, why do you believe that there could have been two shooters here? >> well, landis's story really is another powerful blow against the official theory that one man killed the president for no reason. eyewitness account, somebody who is on the scene. let's not forget that the magic bullet theory was a week long before land is came along. three members of the warren commission did not believe it. three presidents did not bel

let me first ask you about the secret service agent, the guy's name is paul landis. about the magic bullet. magic bullet to me was absurd from day one, never, never -- to me it never had any credibility. he was there, even put himself on record at the time, and mentioned that he made a mistake in his placement of the bullet in that room where your uncle was after he was shot. my question to you is, should this now open a full-fledged investigation? >> yeah. i mean, the interesting thing about this development is not really his revelation, because this information has been out there, and the information, you know, the overwhelming information that there was more than one shooter involved and that there were multiple people involved has been recognized by the american people, 70% of americans don't believe the warren report. but more importantly when congress reinvestigated the warren commission evidence and was looking at much more evidence than 1979 the house elect assassinations committee, they came to the conclusion and this was the conclusion, official conclusion

paul landis account is correct, and to be believed, it does suggest some shoddy nest by the warren commission. and for anybody who knows anything about the warren commission, this will not come as a surprise. >> jake, thank you so much for joining us to talk about all of that. >> thanks. >> and thank you for watching cnn prime time. laura coates starts right now. >> good evening everyone. i'm so glad you're here with us tonight. i'm laura coates. welcome to cnn tonight. manhunt, capturing a killer. i have been fascinated by the story, so our, you we will go in depth of the dramatic capture of danelo cavalcante for the one police kept up on him and surrounded him in the woods. i'm right here in pennsylvania where it all went down. a few hundred yards behind me where the escaped murder was captured just after atm. now tonight he is back behind bars for the first time i might add, since august 21st in the pennsylvania state prison in a different county. this time montgomery county. now he has another charge, this time felony escape. it adds on to the life in prison sentence for the heinous murde

so it was, paul, you've got to make a decision, and i grabbed it. but landismeaning it may not have been the bullet that injured connally. >> how significant is this? >> i think this is a significant piece of new evidence to support the idea there was more than one gunman. >> reporter: clint hill who climbed on the back of the limo after kennedy was shot questions landis's story. >> why do you have doubts about his account? >> because if you check all the evidence, statements, things that happened, they don't line up. it doesn't make any sense to me that he's trying to put it on the president's gurney. >> but landis who was not available for an interview with nbc news tells "the times" he made mistakes in his initial reports. he says he's been afraid to share his true story until now. liz kreutz, nbc news. >>> coming up, my exclusive >>> coming up, my exclusive conversation with actor i'm orlando and i'm living with hiv. i don't have to worry about daily hiv pills because i switched to every-other-month cabenuva. for adults who are undetectable, cabenuva is th

article that kind of explains it in greater detail but the thumbnail is that after the assassination paul landisret service agent, spent the week in tremendous turmoil taking care of jackie kennedy that entire week. and then, after, that he was assigned to take care of her. jackie kennedy could not sit down after the assassination. she was traveling all over the place. paul was having severe ptsd, he saw the president's heads explode, he was looping in his head over and over, you couldn't sleep. so he finally left six months later and did not want to look back. he read nothing about the assassination until 2014 and then, when he really looked, he saw that they had a critical fact wrong and he began his odyssey and a journey to write his book. >> so no one ever questioned him? he didn't have an interview of any kind and talk about this? in light of the significance of him being on the scene, nobody asked this detail before that? >> yeah, remarkably not. the warren commission did not interview him and the fbi did not interview him. in fact, there are several agents in that follow up car who were n

paul landis, who is now 88 years old, says that one the motorcade arrived at the hospital he found thenedy in the limousine seat behind where the president was sitting. he says that he put that bullet next to kennedy on the structure, but the government report by the warren commission says that the same bullet that struck kennedy exited his throat and then struck texas governor sean connally. with me now are too kennedy historians who stand on different sides of this very debate. various rooks tool believes that lee harvey oswald acted alone, but jefferson morley says that landis's new theory is possible. jefferson, i want to start with you first. both of you, first of all, thank you for being here. jefferson, why do you believe that there could have been two shooters here? >> well, landis's story really is another powerful blow against the official theory that one man killed the president for no reason. eyewitness account, somebody who is on the scene. let's not forget that the magic bullet theory was a week long before land is came along. three members of the warren commission did no

. >>> tomorrow on "the lead," i'm going to be talking to former secret service agent paul landis.s" contains astonishing new revelations about the assassination of president john f. kennedy 60 years ago this november. his book casts new doubts on the conclusions of the warren commission's single bullet theory that a single bullet hit both president kennedy and texas governor john connelly. we'll ask him about that, why he kept silent all these years. we have other questions for him too. >>> five memphis police officers were indicted on federal charges for the beating death of tyre nichols. what that might mean for the state charges they're already situationing. that's next in "the situation room" with wolf blitzer. ♪ please don't go ♪ ♪ please don't go.. ♪ ♪ p please don't go ♪ ♪ please don't go ♪ ♪ don't goooooo! ♪ (♪) ♪ don't go away ♪ (♪) ♪ please don't go ♪ ♪i'm hearing different ways for me to screen for colon cancer.♪ ♪it's time to use my voice,♪ ♪i've got a choice, more tn one answer.♪ ♪i sat downith my doc.♪ we had a talk. ♪knew just what to say.♪ ♪i asked for cologuard an

paul landis, former secret service agent, has poke holes in the magic bullet theory saying that thatok the bullet that was supposedly found near jfk and put it on his stretcher. long story short. it seems to call into doubt the claim of the whole magic bullet itself. you have raised doubts about that as well. do you think that this, you know, this statement on his part means that there were multiple shooters when your own coal, john f. kennedy, was killed? >> well, you know, the house selecselect committee on assassination did a comprehensive study and hearings and investigation of what happened, of my uncle's death, in 1979. 15 years after the warren commission. house assassination committee concluded my uncle was killed by a conspiracy. multiple people involved. half the people on the committee think the cia, more than half, believe the cia was involved in the assassination and the cover-up. there are reams and reams of evidence since then, since 1979, that have supported that view. the interesting thing about officer landis' reason, revelation, is that for the first time the mains

paul landis , who harvey oswald.ident , was standing behind the president, claims was standing behind the president , claims that he heard president, claims that he heard two extra shots during the 1963 attack and that he found a bullet which could have been important evidence, but it was misplaced with misleading consequences. he says that he picked up the bullet from the back seat of the car where jfk had been sitting and placed it on the president's stretcher for investigate others to examine landis was standing on the running board of the car behind the president. he's never testified, but has spoken out now in a new book, the final witness. joining me to discuss this alleged revelation is author and kennedy expert james robenalt, who worked with mr landis to prepare him for his pubuc landis to prepare him for his public revelations . welcome to public revelations. welcome to gb news. how significant do you, james, find these revelations to be? >> well, thanks for having me. it is the most significant news since