universal family. >>> coming up the confederate flag controversy, south carolina state senator paul therman strom therman joins me next. ♪ ♪ ♪ (vo) making the most out of every mile. that's why i got a subaru impreza. love. it's what makes a subaru a subaru. >>> since the mother emanuel church shooting the whole country is watching south carolina and the fight to take down the confederate flag from the state house grounds. according to the charleston post and coreyer, two-thirds support taking down the flag. enough for the bill to pass. one of the most important voices in that debate has been state senator paul thurmond son of the late u.s. senator strom thurmond. he spoke on the senate floor, on the state senate floor last week about what that flag stands for and why it must come down. >> our ancestors were literally fighting to continue to keep human beings as slaves and continue the unimaginable acts that occur when someone is held against their will. i am not proud of this heritage. we must take down the confederate flag and we must take it down now but if we stop there, we have cheated

flag controversy, one of the most important voices in this debate south carolina state senator paul thermanking news from nbc universal on donald trump over his highly controversial immigration comment and we're learning what happened leading up to president obama's amazing grace moment and how history will judge the defining moments of the last few days. >>> welcome to

it is a piece looking at south carolina's state senator paul therman. the youngest son of the man famous for his segregation stand. paul is helping to push the re removal of the confederate flag at the capital. talk about how viewpoints have changed over the years and in most recent history. >> guest: i think they have changed. my previous comment is part of the reason for thinking that. i think the reaction among the leaders of south carolina would have been different not that long ago than they have been in this practice. whenever i hear that nothing has changed, i smile and that is a sense that -- that is an indication people are not aware of the past. when i was a young person there were no black faces on television. it was an incredibly different world that has changed a great deal. are there still prejudice people not just in the south but elsewhere in the united states? of course there are. you cannot legislate that away. but i think the world has changed in important ways. i think it is -- i think the debate over what happened in south carolina i