vitaly, the commission, let's talk about this with pavlo klimkin, minister of foreign affairs of ukraine in 2014-2019, yes, he is already in touch with us, mr. pavlo, congratulations, but not yet, well, in any by the way, i hope that he will appear now and we will talk about it, c in any case, it is clear that the commission, the integration, the integration, the commission should be only the first step towards integration, i will tell you honestly, and whatever... the commissions that are created, they do not replace the security guarantee, this is an interesting form when ukraine appeals to nato member countries, when she does everything possible to be listened to, she can call such a meeting, but nato members have no obligations to ukraine, so what should we think about when we hold such meetings, of course, we must say , that we didn't really want them, remember what we have the majority of citizens before... ukraine's attack, not russia's attack on ukraine, were generally opposed to ukraine's accession to nato, and , by the way, many of them, like genr, believed that this would lead

pavle, do you remember 1997, pavlo klimkin already from by us, we welcome you, signing, hello, friends, congratulations ms. khrystyna, ms. vitaly, of course, of course i remember, very well, they were in madrid, i wasn't in madrid, but, well, your memory is almost historical. so i saw this signing of this fundamental act ukraine nato. it can be said that we have come a long way over the years, or can we still say that we have made progress, but we are stuck in the door? it is possible, i was not enthusiastic in 1997, i think you are too, and not because of what was signed, but because of what was signed with russia. basically trade then was about the expansion of nato, then the big seven joined it, and its actual expansion to the big eight, and this attempt to build such a mosaic, it ended very badly, but the fact that we made a quantum leap is 100%, although we also have to understand , that the war, and the first stage, the second brought us to where we are, that is, this movement was not given to us, not just like that, and we have it, we have to understand it, just as we have to un

pavlo klimkin, minister of foreign affairs of ukraine for 14-19 years was on our air, we talked aboutnd analyzed zelensky's visit to the usa. this is the freedom of the mornings, here. we talk with you in the morning about important events, analyze them, well, and further on this broadcast we are talking about the following: kyivstar has not yet restored communication, but they want to do it today, the company's services are gradually becoming available, the attack is already being investigated by the security service of ukraine, and they say there is a possible involvement of the special services of russia, whether such attacks will become more frequent, how to prepare for the disappearance of communications no matter what challenges the country is facing, the crossing point is the hours of dorogusk in polish. at the ukrainian border resumed its work after the release of the blockade, but was again blocked by a truck that broke down right in the middle of the road. meanwhile, the new prime minister donald tusk calls on poland to mobilize for help. in ukraine, what is the situation at

our broadcast was joined by pavlo klimkin, ukrainian diplomat, minister of foreign affairs of ukraine, 2014-19, good evening, greetings, ladies, greetings to you all, well, look, oksana markarova says that volodymyr zelenskyi’s speech was canceled, and this is not a catastrophe, and that it happened because at the meeting of senators they discussed not only ukrainian issues, but also internal american problems, but to me, i assume that it's not true do you have an explanation, do you have an idea, why this meeting was actually canceled, but the speech before the senators, it seems to be so important, ku, much more important, i don’t know the nuances, one of the reasons could be, the assessment of the situation in the senate hearings, and understanding that there will be a very emotional exchange regarding the issues of the southern border, and then... and all our words, they would fall on absolutely ungrateful ground and become a kind of emotional hostage to another issue that is fundamental today for american domestic politics, around there is a lot going on and the stakes are higher

pavle, do you remember 1997, pavlo klimkin is already with us, we congratulate you, signing, hello , friends, congratulations , ms. khrystyna, ms. vitaliy, of course, of course i remember, i was not in madras, but, well, your mention is almost historical, but i saw the signing of this fundamental act, ukraine nato , we can say that we have advanced a lot over the years, or we can still say that we have advanced, but we are stuck at the door, it is possible, i was not enthusiastic in 1997, i think you are too, and not because of what was signed, but because of what was signed with russia, in principle, trade was then, in relation to the expansion of nato, then before that the big seven joined, and its actual expansion to the big eight, and this attempt to build such a mosaic, it ended very badly, but the fact that we made a quantum leap is with although we also have to understand that the war, and the first stage, the second, we were brought to where we are, that is, this movement was not given to us just like that, and we have it, we have to understand it, just as we have to understa

vitaly, the council, the commission, let's talk about it with pavlo klimkin, the minister of foreigne in 2014-2019, yes, there are already us. communication, mr. pavle, congratulations , but there is not yet, well, in any case, i hope that he will appear now and we will talk about it, in any case, it is clear that the commission is the commission, the integration of the integration , the commission should be only the first step towards integration, i will tell you honestly, and any commissions that are created, they do not replace the guarantee of security, this is an interesting form when ukraine appeals to nato member countries, when it does everything possible to be heard, it can convene such a meeting, but the obligations of nato members in front of ukraine there is none, and here is what we need to think about when we hold such meetings, of course, we must say that we did not really want them, remember that the majority of our citizens before the attack of ukraine, not russia, on ukraine, were generally opponents of the ukrainian accession to nato, and considered by the way, man

pavlo klimkin, ukrainian diplomat, minister of foreign affairs of ukraine, 2014-19 joined our broadcastgreetings, ladies and gentlemen, greetings to all, well, look, oksana markarova says that the speech of volodymyr zelenskyi canceled, and this is not a catastrophe, and that it happened because at the meeting of senators they discussed not only ukrainian issues, but also internal american problems. but to me, i guess it's not complete.

surprised by the story, we recently met there with the former minister of foreign affairs of ukraine pavlo klimkini tell him, please explain , i told about the option that... the country receives security guarantees for the controlled territory, and joins nato or receives these security guarantees before joining, i told this in the middle of 2023, and everyone says that i put forward such idea, but i didn't put it forward, you did i was told this on the air, not in some kind of private conversation, on the air of the espresso tv channel, in the first months of the russian ... studio, and mr. pavlo was on the phone and he said that such options are being actively discussed in western political circles, how to bring ukraine closer to nato, it is possible to give, invite it to nato in all its territorial integrity, yes, but extend security guarantees only to territory controlled by ukrainian by the government, and it was sometime in march 22nd, vienna... are floating in the air, and i, as a journalist, can voice an idea, but exactly such an idea. i just don't think i should invent it, because it's si

pavlo klimkin, minister of foreign affairs of ukraine in 14-19, joins our broadcast.e you to our broadcast. thank you for joining. greetings to all, friends. what are your conclusions. after this meeting of joseph biden with...

story, by the way, we recently met there with the former minister of foreign affairs of ukraine pavlo klimkinld him, please explain, i told about the option that... ukraine receives guarantees security for the controlled territory, and joins nato, or receives these security guarantees before joining, i this. told in the middle of 2023 and everyone says that i put forward such an idea, but i did not put it forward, you told me this on the air, not in some, some private conversation, on the air of the espresso tv channel, in the first months of the russian-ukrainian war , i don't remember when we can watch it on the air, in march, april we talked in our lviv studio and mr. pavlo was on the phone and he told us that there were options are being actively discussed in... western political circles, how to bring ukraine closer to nato, it is possible to invite it to nato, in all its territorial integrity, yes, but extend security guarantees only to the territory controlled by ukraine, and this was sometime in march 22 of the year, he said, you can absolutely refer to me, of course you can, we alread

currently obsessed with domestic politics, but they will definitely vote for aid to ukraine, pavlo is sure klimkinn if they do it in january, it's not a disaster. it doesn't mean that they forget about us, it's just that it's difficult to understand around this, and what is urgent and non-urgent, important, unimportant, i have no doubt that help will be announced. there are again ongoing discussions about the volumes, but in any case there will be no critical reduction. the diplomat is certain that ukraine needs to understand the interests of the eu and the usa, to get rid of them. illusions that they will sacrifice them for us. instead, learn to build pro-ukrainian coalitions, talk even with skeptics. without the financial and military support of our partners, we will not win this war. unfortunately, the enemy has a lot of weapons and money, so looking for support in the world, our main task is to become strong from the inside, economically and militarily. the only powerful policy is a strong ukraine, it is our state, it is our logistics, it is our production, it is our weapon, it is ours. financ