that's the one piece of good news that tim pawlenty could finally help this state. >> pawlenty is a lot like bush. he is a conservative, but fiscally, he's even tighter than bush. he said this about the cash for clunkers. here it is. >> the effect of this is that we pulled the demand forward and just dissipating what was future demand for car sales. see that in the numbers today. along the way we hurt the used car lots, salvage industry, charitable industry that converted old cars and more. i would not support increasing those programs. there's a joke that says the main value for the cash for clunkers program, we may get a lot of cars with obama stickers off the road. >> get a lot of cars with obama stickers off the road. i don't know what you think, i think that's border line racist, class warfare because of the economic disparity in this country. is this who this guy is? really now being cast on the national scene, going to get a lot of attention now. is he known for saying stuff like this? >> you're going to have fun with this guy, ed schultz. look, i guess you can make a joke of som

a lot of people, you could fairly make that same argument about governor pawlenty. frankly, about governor romney, although he has been around a lot longer, some of those credentials are more burnish, any time you come from a governor's mansion, running for president, people always criticize your lack of foreign policy credentials, happened with george bush, happened with bill clinton. if sarah palin does run, it will happen with her, i have to say that is one of many problems she is going to have if she decides to run. >> this is -- going to get a lot of e-mails talking about this now, it is three years out this is the time you start looking for staff and make sure you have your finance people and politics, your advisers and strategists. how are they doing when luke at mitt romney, newt gingrich, haley barbour, tim pawlenty, sarah palin, you know, your colleagues? >> my friends. >> who is being snapped up by who? >> governor pawlenty is making headlines now because he is moving quickly and moving early. obviously, that was a strategic decision there are a lot of ve

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. >>> >>> minnesota governor tim pawlenty has got his eyes on the presidency in 2012. his bold new strategy announced today to recapture the white house for his party is to surround himself with people who did some of the dirtiest of the dirty business of the republican party in the era of george w. bush, change you can believe. just a moment. now yourard comes with a way to plan for what matters to you. introducing blueprint. blueprint is free and only for chase customers. it lets you choose what purchases you want to pay and those you split... interest...with full pay. you decide how to pay over time. if having a plan matters. chase what matters. eate your own blueprint at chase.com/blueprint. >>> today we got the most overt glimpse we have had yet of what it's going to be like to run for the republican nomination for president in the next election. today minnesota governor tim pawlenty became the first republican to put one foot in the race when he formally opened a new political action committee that he's calling freedom first. technically the formation of freedom'

. >>> minnesota reason governor tim pawlenty is making the media rounds fresh off his political action committee this week. he's taking all the he'll really going to run for president attention. he's gone on fox news to make a poor people joke. >> the main value of the cash for clunkers that we'll get a lot of cars with obama stickers off the road. >> because only poor people would vote for a guy like obama. anybody who voted for obama probably had a really lame car. if you've got a really nice car, keep in mind, tim pawlenty doesn't want you embarrassing him with your vote. >>> okay, as promised, tonight's moment of geek. the kakapo is the largest and rarest parrot in the world. it was thought to be extinct until it was rediscovered in the 1970s. it's a ground dwelling bird, which might have something to do that there's only 124 kokopos known to be left in the entire world. and thanks to the recovery plan, the remaining kakapos live on the island of new zealand wris where they're originally from. during mating season, the kakapo inflates his whole body like a plan, then he emits a lou

pawlenty was on john mccain's short list for the vice presidential spot in 2008. and since then, he has anoipsd won't be running for a third term as minnesota's governor and starting to chris-cross the country, speaking to republican organizations in swing states such as ohio and florida and has assembled a campaign team. >>> all right, coming up, we will have more on the issue of afghanistan, the top military commander in afghanistan today has some new words. that is right. he says it is a critical time for the u.s. mission there, but are more troops really the answer? >>> plus, 2008 was a rough year for all of us, and that even includes the richest people in the world. >>> and later, new information about michael jackson's health in the days before he died. details from the king of pop's autopsy. was he in good health? this is msnbc. rr for all the moments that make every day special. fancy feast introduces an entirely new way to celebrate any moment. fancy feast appetizzrs. simple high qualiiy ingredients like wild alaskan salmon, white meat chicken, or seabass

in fact, the number one question on tim pawlenty's mind is what do i have to call obama to finance my 2012 race, because that's the only way he's going to finance it. >> tonight's big winner, austin goldsby, president obama's head economic advisor, he was named washington's funniest celebrity. >> the economy? >> like that title. >> i'm not sure. >> are we going to have to turn the heat on tonight, bob? it's borderline. >> you know. >> it's a not tough anymore. >> outside today, we had cold winds coming in and we had very very astute viewers. >> we have the identity now? >> mary alexander, among others sent me the name. now we know. that's what we're here for. outside temperature. and thanks for sending that in, our temperature is a chilly 57 degrees after 70 degrees. our average low now, october is the month our average low temperature drops the most. tomorrow morning, 56 is our average low, by the end of the month, it's down into the low 40s. 70 here. can you see where that cold air is coming from? that was the high temperature in buffalo today, 50 degrees. 46 right now. they've been

is tim pawlenty a guy that excites republicans right now?> i wouldn't use the word excitement. >> is he a viable candidate for 2012? >> let's go back to going rogue. tim pawlenty, if you named a dark horse for the republican nomination, people are looking at him, saying he's an interesting guy. i've seen him. he does better. he doesn't seem dynamic for tough, but i saw him on one of the national programs. i think he did an excellent job. i think he's a real comer. he's going to be a real competitor. the question is can we get the bonding going that none of them seem to get, except for sarah palin, in the republican party now. >> do you fear that republicans may again nominate someone who excites the republican base but has very little chance of resonating with the broader american voting public. >> i don't know when we did that. i think bush was a more exciting -- i guess mccain in 2000. do i think palin is going to get the nomination? if you ask me now, i would say no. i don't know she's going to run. she had all that problem with her famil

>> i'd say you would put pawlenty or palin there. >> where's huckabee? >> where's petraeus in. >> i don't think he's going to run. >> huckabee's there, too. >> we'll see. thank you, david corn. thank you, jonathan martin. talked up here. join us tomorrow night at 5:00 and 7:00 eastern for more "hardball." time for "the ed show" with ed schultz. >>> good evening, americans. good to have you with us tonight on "the ed show." hope you had a great weekend. quick update. no vote today in the senate finance committee. harry reid and max baucus are at odds. reed reid wants to go to the floor, baucus wants to wait for the cbo to score the senate finance committee bill to tell us how much this is going to cost. everybody is worried about the money. the money, the money, the money. i want to talk about the human cost off the top tonight. we went home this weekend in minnesota. there's a guy i've known there a while. dennis, good guy, had a construction company for some 30 years. small business owner. you know the story. pays his taxes, plays by the rules. smart gu

pawlenty, 5% and 10% for others. real early look. we're about a year away even from the beginning of that race. >> she's still in double digits though. former governor getting a lot of pay from the new book. what's up with a possible appearance for her in iowa? is that related? the book deal and this? >> the timing could be related but they are separate stories. we learned yesterday after seeing her public records that she got $1.5 million as an advance for "going rogue "and that book comes out in three weeks as she goes on oprah the day before that book comes out. as for the iowa story a conservative group is trying to raise $40,000 to bring her out there to speak next month to a conservative dinner. we also know she may speak to a right to life group in wisconsin also next month. >> all right. before you go, talk about the democratic congressman from florida who has apparently a knack for getting quoted in the news. now he's apologizing. >> for something else. the we first learned of him when he was in front of congress and he said