this road leads to macalister penitentiary which houses prisoners condemned to death. this is where just twelve years ago i met sean sellers a young man condemned to death his story created a media star all over the world he was my age and i have never forgotten him ever since the night of his execution i have been convinced that the death penalty acts like a poison on all those who participate in it now my aim is to meet all the people love born revolved in the execution of sean sellers. this is where sean sellers spent the last thirteen years of his life. never cameras in three. thousand three. hundred dollars or a little we. took a. year. shawn was too. nine hundred nine when this interview took place. most people around here you know all this season did ruin all the season chains wars and cry. so. you know if all you can see is this summer's herzog. did someone is killed somebody. that someone is dangerous did you with the person who did the person deserves to die. and. i don't blame the. exhibit this is what. the only people who really really. have. to want to see

and her family came to the penitentiary to watch being put to death. he was strapped down to a table with his arms out to his side and they had run an i.v. which was have a we're going to. commit the execution and it was lethal injections through. it was altered intravenously he was prepped and ready to gal lying down and the warden was in there and some doctor and. a few prison guards i believe there was no fear he was happy to go. it seemed like and that to me it was totally conceivable he didn't like afraid perhaps he'd come to terms with his fate he gets a list of everyone who's there to ending his execution both for his guests in the prison the guests and his family members and the victim's family members it's a it's the only opportunity you're going to have to go see i got you here didn't get away with it now or even i'd reached a point where i guess i'd be humanized him and i had to for my own peace of mind i had to look at him for what it was a killer. i don't think i could have ever gone through. it was painless for him he didn't suffer he was

this road leads to macalister penitentiary which houses prisoners condemned to death. this is where just twelve years ago i met sean sellers a young man condemned to death his story created a media star all over the world he was my age and i have never forgotten him ever since the night of his execution i have been convinced that the death penalty acts like a poison on all those who participate in it now my aim is to meet all the people that were involved in the execution of sean sellers. this is where sean sellers spent the last thirteen years of his life. the. cameras in three. parts and three. football players are louis. ok. chon was twenty nine when this interview took place. most people around here you know all this season here when all you see the chains and warriors cry. all you can see is this summer's herzog by. some of those killed somebody. if someone is dangerous. you are the first year that person is arrested. i don't blame. he said this one. the only people who really really. have. to want to see me did. people on earth believe her story is what i didn't

and her family came to the penitentiary to watch shawn being put to death. if. he was struck down to the table with his arms out to his side and they had run an i.v. which was how they were going to. commit the execution it was lethal injection that was altered. it was altered intravenously. he was prepped and ready to go on lying down and the warden was in there and some doctor. said he prison guards i believe there was no fear he was happy because it seemed like an x. ray was totally he didn't like every perhaps they've come to terms with his fate he gets a list of everyone who's there changing his execution both for his guests in the prison and his family members and the victim's family members it's a it's the only opportunity you're going to have to go see i gotcha he didn't get away with it. now we. had raised the point where i guess i'd be humanized him and i had to for my own peace of mind i had to look at him for what it was a killer. around on the ticket i've ever gone through. it was painless for him he didn't suffer he was a slave like an animal like

because when we go to penitentiary no one finds out about that. no one finds out about that that we have a mental discord. i have sugar diabetes. i have high blood pressure and some other things. and no one found out about that. so i direct a home -- and i find out that a lot of people that went to the penitentiary are sick. are sick. and they shouldn't have been in there. they should not have been in there. so i direct a home -- and i find out that half the people that has to go to the penitentiary, they're hurting. they're hurting. and no one knows that they're sick. and they do things out of character about their condition. and nobody knows about it. and the lady that was speaking on the health department, she was sure on. [tone] she was sure on. that most -- some of the people don't supposed to be there because they have mental problems. and i deal with them every day. and i see their need. talking is just talking. but when you in there and see how sick some of these people are, and they have penitentiary records and they cannot get anyplace b

as sister debbie lives not far from the penitentiary town she too used to take care of her nephew quite a lot when volunteer was out on the road well and laura knew her well the. we're all for justice if it be anyone. you know we'd been right there with. bells you know ringing it on because it's payback it's been since you know whatever but when it's someone that that you care about and if you did the same you know for them one thank you. it's mix them up it's it's unexplainable. it's sad. it's. called for. some waste. he was the last. part of me. and my sister in. his car. he was my sister's child she's gone now he's car now they're all. in that societies. do i feel responsible for helping you usually yeah. do i feel bad about it not now do i feel bad for the greeting the jim and. debbie went through yeah i feel sorry for their loss do i feel they lost. more than i did. they lost. and sean i just lost my father and they lose more you bet grandfather jim jones and debbie refused to come to the execution on february fourth one thousand nine hundred nine about six minutes to die. just so

sister debbie lives not far from the penitentiary town she too used to take care of her nephew quite a lot when volunteer was out on the road noel and laura knew her well. we're all for justice if it be anyone arabs you know we've been right there with bales you know ringing it because it's payback it's it's it's you know whatever but when it's someone that that you haven't you care about and you did the same you know for the one they kill. it's mixed emotions it's it's unexplainable. it's sad. it's. it's. uncalled for. and. so waste. he was the last. part of me. and my sister in. his car. he was my sister's child she's gone now he's gone now they're all. in that societies. do i feel responsible for helping in fusion yeah. do i feel bad about it you know. now do i feel bad for the grieving. jim. they lost. lost and sean i just lost my father. grandfather jim. refused to come to the execution on february fourth one thousand nine hundred. six minutes to die. just so. the. person. because i didn't want to. and i had great times for. most of the. it it's done it's. worth years had to wor

i'm heading to mcallister in the eastern part of the state where the penitentiary is located to find the man who executed sean sellers. in oklahoma the prison guards carry out the death sentences. the simplest way is to run an ad in the local newspaper looking for officers who participated in the execution. i have no problem. you know i member shontelle or because he was a party guy that actually he was not an adult at the time which. was harder when i first became an issue being thank you note xan. thought of while remembering that exchange. when i want to flash bangs occasion. was involved in oh morning. i was involved in approximately fifty two executions. proximately sixty execution. fred cook was in charge of sean's execution his father also executed prisoners and the electric chair fred is retired now but about johnny and then and he would use a key big bagel he had but i mean you know me he done it paid one no two ways about it and. so nice dinner thing today if and we kept a moan death row nto such damage it was found a security man and we executed and once they come through

as sister debbie lives not far from the penitentiary town she too used to take care of her nephew quite low twenty vulgar was out on the road you know well and laura knew her well. were offered just if it had been anyone i. you know we've been rocked there with veils you know ringing it all because it's. payback it's it's it's you know whatever but when it's someone that that you care about and. you did the same you know for them when they kill. you it's makes them up and it's it's unexplainable. it's sad. and it's. so. uncalled for. and. so wastes. he was the last it's a part of me and my sister and. his car. she's gone now he's gone now they're all. in that society and you i feel responsible for helping in execution yeah. do i feel bad about it you know now do i feel bad for the grieving the jim and. debbie went through yeah i feel sorry for their loss do i feel world they lost more than i did. they lost vonda and sean i just lost my father and they lose more you bet grandfather jim shawn's and debbie refused to come to the execution on february fourth one thousand nine hundred nine s

i'm heading to mcallister in the eastern part of the state where the penitentiary is located to find the man who executed sean sellers in oklahoma the prison guards carry out their death sentences. the simplest way is to run an ad in the local newspaper looking for officers who participated in the execution. problem or. you know a member shontelle or god it was a party guy that actually he was not an adult at which. i was working i want to first became an issue. i know sean. thought of while i remember that exchange. with twenty plus execution. was involved in all morning. i was involved in approximately fifty two executions. proximately sixty executions. fred cook who was in charge of sean's execution his father also executed prisoners and the electric chair fred is retired now and i brought johnny and then and he would use a key made to go he had but i mean you know me he'd known it paid one note two ways of bad it and. so nice dinners and a day if and we get a moan till such time as it was found execute him and then we executed. once they come through that there were they know. th

sister debbie lives not far from the penitentiary town she too used to take care of her nephew quite a lot when volunteer was out on the road noelle and laura knew her well. for we're all for justice if it would be. you know we've been right there with. bells you know ringing because it's payback it's been it's it's you know whatever but when it's someone that that you care about. you did the same you know. it's mixed emotions it's it's unexplainable. it's sad. it's. so. uncalled for. so waste. he was the last see. part of me. and my sister in. his car. she's gone now he's gone. in that says not easily. do i feel responsible for helping the fusion yes. do i feel bad about it you know. now do i feel bad for the grieving that did jim and. debbie went through yes. i feel sorry for their loss do i feel. they lost more than i did they lost vonda and sean i just lost my father did they lose more you bet grandfather jim debbie refused to come to the execution on february fourth one thousand nine hundred nine sean took about six minutes to die. i don't know what i saw. i saw. that person i t

. >> here, it's colorado state penitentiary. and this time estrada is in for murder, a crime he committed after being released from his first prison term. >> in here, you take things a lot more serious. somebody calls you a punk, somebody calls you a bitch, someone says i'm going to kill you, in here that means, you know, you hold people to that word -- to them words, man. when i got out and guys were saying that about me, i'm going to kill john, i'm going to do this to him. the first thing in my mind is i better go kill him before he gets me even though he was probably talking out of his ass. he didn't understand the type of person i am and where i've been and the thought process i've learned in here. and he's dead now for it. it's kind of like a kill or be killed. >> estrada's prison education started early. >> how old were you when you were first arrested? >> about 13 or 14. >> what did you do? >> stealing a stereo out of a car. that's how it all began. start out stealing bubble gum at the stores all the way to snatching purs

. >>> nestled at the base of the rocky mountains, colorado state penitentiary was built to house the state's most violent and disruptive inmates. it gives new meaning to the words hard time. >> we decided that csp could not be a place where inmates could get comfortable and make a life for themselves. we had to treat them differently. >> colorado state isn't just any maximum security prison. it's a super max facility. inmates here are considered a constant threat and are confined to single-person cells 23 hours a day. >> i was astounded by how sterile and stark and what tough time it would be to serve in that particular prison. i think that would be the hardest time possible. >> many of the inmates we spoke to agreed. they say the isolation is too much. >> i've been here a long time. i've seen a lot of guys, seen them snap, you know? any given day they can snap. >> 23 hours a day you're locked down. you come out for five hours a week. essentially it's just another cell. it's a dead room with a pull-up bar. there's one small window. everywhere you go, handcuffed, handcuffed to go in t

tom hines would be captured in ohio with john hunt morgan and both be incarcerated in the ohio penitentiary and would be tom hines who would mastermind of the estate of john hunt morgan and six of his men out of the ohio penitentiary in 1863 to in canada he was the architect of what became the northwest conspiracy, an attempt by the consider it department to cause an uprising in the illinois and indiana to free all the confederate prisoners of war come kim douglas in chicago and more ten in indianapolis and then hopefully take over the government, and because there's a lot of copperheads strike of their people opposed to lincoln, and so that conspiracy collapsed. but tom hines became known as the most dangerous man in the confederacy as a result of the exploits, and after the war jon porter and tom hines would be law partners and boeing greenup kentucky and john porter would be elected the commonwealth attorney briefly out of the county and tom hines, his partner, was elected a circuit judge, and then a judge on the kentucky court of appeals which was the highest appellate court in the stat

shipped out to the penitentiary april 3. tavis: you know that number pretty well. obviously. how did you get out? >> the law firm that i worked for now -- tavis: you are a paralegal? >> yes. when i was in prison, everybody knew me as a jailhouse lawyer. that is all i did. the laws -- the law is what put me there, and that is what set me free. i work for that from now. tavis: what do you do every day? >> i am a member of the pro bono committee. i get a chance to help minorities get access to justice. >> i want to give out -- a shout out to northwestern. one of the reason you have so many chicago cases, you haven't the structure of lawyers that pursue it. the difference is not the situation, the difference is a competent legal team of students and professors. tavis: that could be replicated across the country. >> absolutely. tavis: that can be replicated. northwestern is not unique in that regard. others can clearly do that. what benevolent work would that be for law schools across the country. i want to come back to something that ken said something. talk to me about the burde

. >> this is my fifth here in the penitentiary. i've been all around.the system for a while. >> soledad, tracy, solona, jamestown, now here. >> many of these inmates are simply resigned to prison as a way of life. >> i will probably come back once or twice on a violation. ♪ i can't shake these penitentiary state blues ♪ >> but flaco has come to the realization that hanging with a street gang does not mean lifetime loyalty. >> well, basically what it boils down to, an eye opener for me was, when i fell, when i got locked up, where were they? you know, the only people writing me, taking care of me right now is my family. all those guys, home boy this, they ain't nowhere to be found right now. you know, so what it boils down to who is really here for me right now is my family. >> and for chester reed, it's that separation from family and his wife of 32 years that is most painful. >> misery i went through inside these walls and the pain that i caused my family, it will never happen again, not in my lifetime. it hurts me just to think of the hurt that i caus

out of the penitentiary system.people with profound lifelong patterns of severe criminal behavior, and each one tends to get looked at almost on its own merit as an isolated incident rather than looking at the overall pattern and realizing some people are not going to change, and when they get out of the lock system, the contained system, they have to be treated with the same scrutiny as if they were in a lock system. >> fascinating the video we've just been showing of nancy garrido videotaping when the parole officer came to the house and was searching. she was basically trying to get pressure on this guy to get out quicker. again, not effective searches. dr. drew, thanks. appreciate it. >>> following other stories tonight. tom foreman has the "360" bulletin. >>> the united nations has denounce syria's brutal crack dunne on protesters. the security council condemned the use of force against civilians and called for an immediate end to violence by all parties. dozens of people have been killed in the last few days,

hines was captured in ohio with john hunt morgan and they would both be incarcerated in the ohio penitentiary and, as would mastermind the escape of john hunt morgan and six of his men out of the ohio country in november of 1863. then he would go to canada and from canada he was the architect of what became the northwest conspiracy, attempt by the confederate war department to cause an uprising in l.a. and indiana to free all the confederate prisoners of war in camp douglas and chicago and camp morgan and indianapolis and hopefully take over the government because there was a lot of copperheads, people opposed to lincoln. that conspiracy collapsed but tom hines became known as the most dangerous man of the confederacy as a result. after the war john m. porter and tom hines would be law partners in bowling green, kentucky. john m. porter would be elected commonwealth out of warren county and tom hines was elected circuit judge and a judge on the kentucky court of appeals which is the highest appellate court became chief justice of kentucky. i practice law and i have got to the supreme court ma

hines would be captured in ohio with john hunt morgan, they will both be incarcerateed in the penitentiary, and john hines would master mind, and then in november in 1863. then he would go to canada, and from canada, he was the architect of what became the northwest conspiracy, an attempt by the confederate war to cause an uprising and indiana to free all of the confederate prisoners of war at camp douglas in chicago and in indianapolis and hopefully take over the government because there was a lot of copperhead strength. people who were opposed to lincoln. that conspiracy collapsed. tom hines became known as the most dangerous man in the confederacy as a result of his exploits. after the war, john porter and tom hines would be law partners in bowling green, kentucky. and john porter would be elected commonwealth attorney briefly out of warren county, and tom hines, his partner, was elected circuit judge and then a judge on the court of appeals. which was the highest appellate court in the state. he became chief justice. i practice law. i've gone to the supreme court of kentucky, many time

he was sentenced to five years in the penitentiary. it was a horrible system, and still, so many of them think it was a good system. we may never forget the fate of those citizens. [applause] hadi repeat, we may never forget the fates of our fellow citizens whether they were killed ha of the wall of berlin, whether they drowned in the baltics, or whether they were killed in the outer perimeter of the socialist state. i recently completed a documentary about her two young individuals that tried to flee across the border. they wanted to avoid being drafted into the army, and they were captured. they had already left of their hands to fade when they were killed through automatic weapons. then their dead bodies were fastened to donkeys and they were brought to a village on the border, and they were shown on the central market square in order to deter anyone that might consider or think of also wanting to flee. our thoughts do not only go to those that were injured and killed but the remaining siblings and parents that were repressed by the

truly fine structures, others have sprung up haphazardly, a brick schoolhouse or copper burn here, penitentiary or pounding. send the copyright depended on where you lived, down a rotten cellar door, straight ahead a plate glass window stuffed with gaudy cashmere's mlb must. held together by wire clothes lines. but foster failed to mention was the contrast between day and night because come nightfall the area around houston street would be overrun with people. customers in search of good food, good drink, good entertainment and yes, good sex. the area had become a center of the sex trade or everywhere in hotels in the private sufferings of restaurants and absurd streaky rooms in the that line the streets and streets were they handed out cards. walt whitman was certain that in no other place codifies show itself so it can be terribly. so, that is broadway. then i want to move on to my second place, which is the lawrence street school for colored children located a few blocks north of houston. and i do not -- unfortunately i don't have an image of it. and this is where my great-grandfather -- mig

from a penitentiary to the penthouse. might be the biggest come back of all time.hael vick making good on his new lease on life. won't be leasing anything he can buy it. six years, $100 million with the eagles. he's a very rich starting quarterback with the nfl and a changed man. >> i think just the things that i've been through has helped you know mold me into the person that i am. and you know what i can forsee in my future. and i'm going to continue to do the same things i've been doing. and enjoying life. >> hey you have to give him a lot of credit. he has come back. a nice return as well for serena williams. her first singles match of the year. over jovaniski and serena. moving on to the second round of the open. that is a sporting life for a tuesday night. remember she cut her foot in 2009. >> yeah, that's a while. mark, thank you. >> you bet. >>> be sure to join the ktvu news starting at 4:30 in the morning. >> you can always find coverage online on ktvu.com. thanks so much for joining us everyone.