perot: no.ughter] [applause] but -- my parents, my grandparents, and everyone in my family lived in this segment of society that i have been talking about today, when you worked hard and had just enough to get by. i'll never forget one christmas, my dad had to sell his horse so that we would have a christmas. no whine, no complaint. just did it. i come from that background. i lived in that background for 38 years of my life before i got lucky. today, i am a lot more comfortable with those people who made the world go round then -- than i am with the beautiful people. can i relate to them? yes. thank you. robert: the first question is a lot like trump. perot, trump, sensitive about their wealth, believe their wealth, because they were able to accumulate them. he gives them entry to the people. when trump came out with his net worth, it was important for him to assert himself as someone who is really worth billions of dollars. on the second point, i wrote a piece recently about the tension between

there is ross perot. mr. perot: we have got to stop sending jobs overseas. for those of you in the audience who are business people, pretty simple. you are paying $14 an hour for factory workers. you can move your factory south of the border, pay one dollar labor, nor your health care, that is the most expensive single element making the cost, have no pollution controls, and no retirement, and you don't care about anything but making money. it will be a sucking sound going south. washington,nt me to the first thing i will do is study that 2000 page agreement to make sure it is a two-way street. robert: giant sucking sound. just hearing perot talk about jobs in that way, it reminds me of how i see trump all the time. if big rally at a football field. i was in a parking lot and people were talking about immigration not because of hispanics, and is not the usual way they interpret it is against a person, but they feel like jobs are slipping away. to them, immigration is an economic issue. they don't have the labor force anymore. there are union members and the

this year what happened with perot happened with trump. to beks about wanting treated fairly, trump is if anything, unpredictable. announcer: sunday night on c-span's q and a. upcoming visit to the

there is a power of personality that ross perot did not have. the republican party's relationship with trump has been rocky. trump did not tone it down on immigration, now he is signing a pledge but who knows what the pledge is worth. i think we could see what happens with ross perot happen with trump. trump is unpredictable. he could easily run independent. announcer: sunday night on q&a. the pope's visit to the u.s..

presidential candidate and businessman ross perot. >> ross perot has a distinct personality that is different. the celebrity factor was not there in the same way that it attracts people to trump. 'sere is a power with trump personality that ross perot did not have. the republican party's relationship with trump has been rocky. i broke a story a couple of months ago that he was asked to tone it down on immigration. he has now signed a pledge, but he knows what it is worth. we could see this year what happened with ross perot happened to trump. he talks about wanting to be treated fairly. trump is unpredictable, and could easily run as an independent regardless of the pledge. that is on c-span's key mandate. >> now donald trump holds a rally in san pedro california on

you can see what happened to ross perot happens to donald trump. fairly.d to be treated he could have easily been independent regardless of his pledge. announcer: tonight on c-span's "q&a." frompaul the six served 1963 until his death in 1978. you are looking at scenes from his coronation ceremony. final to be crowned in this manner. succeeding both have been inaugurated rather than crowned in a simple or ceremony. america, october to1965, pope paul vi's visit the united

he is not interested being ross perot or ralph nader, a spoiler, he wants to be president of the united states, he knows to do that he needs to win the republican nomination and if he doesn't get it he can always change his mind. gregg: boeing back to '92, ross perot got enough votes to essentially take the presidency away from george herbert walker bush and gave it to bill clinton. so how relieved do you think reince priebus and the rnc is right now and, and other republicans? >> i don't think they should be terribly relieved because this means nothing. i think if donald trump thinks he is treated unfairly and wants to run as independent and thinks he could win as an independent would do it in a heartbeat. he is not pledging allegiance to the republican party and principles for which it stands. he is pledging allegiance to donald trump's interest and right now he is winning. there is no reason for him not to pledge to be part of the republican party because he is the frontrunner for the republican nomination. he believes based on how it is

i think perot had this distinct .ersonality the celebrity factor was not there with perot in the way it is with trump. you see people throwing themselves at trump, there is a power with his personality that perot did not have. being outside of washington and her publican party. the republican party's relationship with trump has been rocky this year. that they called him a couple months ago and said, can you tone it down on immigration? he did not turn it down. in thats what was pledge. it is a political document. i think we could see what happened with perot happen with trump. he keeps talking about wanting to be trade fairly. anything, unpredictable and he could easily run as an independent regardless of this pledge. >> tonight at 8:00 eastern and pacific, on c-span's q&a. >> professor anderson teaches a class at clemson university on reconstruction and the civil war. it describes this class is about one hour and 10 minutes. anderson: we are back from spring break. when was the last time anyone looked at the syllabus? some time ago. as it happens, i have one in front of me. you reme

i have to go back to ross perot, a reluctant candidate. i great friend of this program and a great friend of mine ran his campaign. thethe fact is, ross perot for a moment, brief, shining moment, us interest in something called the death sentence. now you have trump who is story realstarring real emotion and interest and engagement with the american people. i'm going to say right now your witnessing something so unusual and rare, somebody who is bigger than the media itself. and the media is having a fit because they can't figure out what to do with this unwieldy force of nature. the establishment is scared to death.

i asked him about 1992 when ross perot ran. i said was ross perot a spoiler? said in a second absolutely. >> i don't see donald trump cowering to the rnc. he hasn't shown any indication that he is going to listen to anybody. maybe he will sign it tomorrow at 2:00. maybe 2:300 we will know. we will have breaking news. >> we will. >> never dull. thank you both. president obama scoring a major win today. not everyone is happy about it. senator rand p

ross perot showed the idea you can campaign on television. he was the first to pull it off being at 35% in the polls low and behold. you can argue obama was the first one to understand the power of social media 1.50. and other candidates learned from it at the time. you look in 1992, bill clinton starting doing arseno after he saw as it worked for perot. my question is when are the other candidates going -- is there something to learn from trump's success? i think there is but paul? >> they are trying. they are attacking him with great regularity. if they don't play on his turf they are being ignored. i don't think it will cut him down. >> you talked about how effective him he is on social

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i kind of like tromp, but i think he will implode, like ross perot. caller: i think the people that leave the republican party are the lobbyists. you will get the story that i almost never hear about. it seems like it is a secret. he handed out checks to big tobacco companies. he explains it in the video. usually we get the checks behind closed doors and corruption is handled in private. sanders, 2016. editorial, what the republican leaders of both houses did to bring anger and

only ross perot can claim the distinction as well, that would be about two decades ago, and he didn't sustain his role, it was short lived. trump likely will because he relishes his role as disruptor as much as distractors are discomforted by the tumult and raucous tumbling in the feist the arena. the marketplace in our great republic happens to be working once again, and all of us, i believe ought to say hallelujah. our quotation of the evening. this one from naomi wolf. she said -- nor as trump has demonstrated should it be constrained by the imposition of political correctness by media, special interest or anyone else for that matter. we're coming right back. >>> the democratic and

trump and 1992 candidate, businessman ross perot. brian: robert costa of the "washington post." you are quoted as saying my political hero is robert caro, not any politician. robert: exactly right. brian: why? robert: he studies power. i love politics. i love history. i love seeing how people use power, and how people in congress and in presidential campaign. it is hard to define. as a reporter, you are seeking out who is in action, who is controlling situations, what is the cost they are paying, what are they trying to do to use power? brian: anyone coming to your mind when using power aside from

clinton started doing arseno after he saw it worked for ross perot. my other question is is there something to learn from tromp's success? i think there is. but paul? >> i think they are trying. they are attacking him now with great regularity. if they don't play on his turf they are being ignored so the only way is to glom on to him but i don't think it will cut him down. >> you talked about how effective he is on social media. i look at him as he is on the record all of the time. he is john mccain on steroids. the beauty of trump, and i say the to clinton people, people call to complain, he is on the record all of the time. shouldn't other politicians learn from this? >> i do but it goes back to, i think, my initial point which is like it is the kardashian's

we could see what happened with perot could happen with trump.is anything applicable. >> sunday night at eight eastern and pacific on c-span's q&a. u.s. pope's visit to the live with the president and mrs. obama to greet m at andrew's -- great tent at andrews air force base. live coverage begins at 8:45 eastern. starting at 4:00, the mass and basilicaion at the thursday morning. live coverage begins from capitol hill as pope francis makes history, become the first pontiff to address congress. and live from new york as he speaks to the united nations general assembly. and later at 11:30, death will hold a multi-religious service at the 9/11 world trade center. online atpan c-span.org. two guests joining us right now. will face as they go to the old in 2016. our guests are melanie campbell, she is the ceo of national coalition of black civic participation. also joined by vanessa deluca of "essence magazine", she is their editor in chief. welcome. the poll yourith organizations have worked together on. what is it and what were you trying to find out

i saw his son ross perot jr. about it. i think they were happy it worked out this way. i don't know why he didn't stipulate it. but it worked out okay. anybody can see it. it is in the national archives right behind me. it is something. the only version that went into effect was the 1297 version. it is nice and historic. but it never went into effect. it was abrogated by king john two or three months after he actually signed it or put his seal on it. because he was afraid he would be ex communicated by the pope because the pope didn't like it, among other reasons. the other versions didn't have any lasting effect. the 1297 did go into effect and was in the books of england for many, many years. >> when you actually had won the auction, what's your feeling? >> well, the auctioneer came in, david reddin, who heads-up sotheby's. he said, congratulations. who are you? i had never been a customer. he said, it's yours. provided you have the money. dow have the money for this? i said yes. now that you own it, you can slip out the side where nobody will know. there were 100 rep

>> i was thinking about you and ross perot recently another billionaire ceo candidate who didn't like to trade deals, that the country was engaged in. he used to talk about was ceo pay that it gotten too high now 350 times the average worker doing that bug you at all as you think about your tax plan and inequities in the economy? >> well, it does bug me. it's very hard if you have free enterprise system to do anything about that. the boards of companies are supposed to do it but i know companies very well. and the ceo puts in all his friends so you'll take a company like, i could say macy's or many others where they put in their friends as head of the company and they get whatever they want. because the friends love sitting on the board. so that's a system that we have and it's ashame and disgraceful and sometimes the boards rule but i would say it's probably less than 10%. you see these guys making these enormous amounts of money, it's a total and complete joke. >> dickerson: when you talk about the system and politicians what are running it poorly, have you thought about any kind of

there is a power of personality that ross perot did not have.epublican party's relationship with trump has been rocky. trump did not tone it down on immigration, now he is signing a pledge but who knows what the pledge is worth. i think we could see what happens with ross perot happen with trump. trump is unpredictable. he could easily run independent. announcer: sunday night on q&a. the pope's visit to the u.s.. we have live coverage from washington dc, the first stop on his tour. with his arrival. wednesday morning on c-span, c-span radio, and c-span.org. officially welcome him to the white house cup on live coverage begins at 8:45. later that afternoon, the canonization of universe era -- junipero serra. he becomes the first pontiff to a dress a joint meeting of congress. friday morning, live coverage from new york as he speaks to the united nations general assembly. pontiff will hold the multireligious and service at the 9/11 memorial and museum. follow our coverage of the popes historic trip live on tv or online. announcer: two guests joini

ross perot got 19% in 1992. one reason he could do that isn't the cold war, the country seemed as peaceful as it had been for a long time. >> ifill: so a protest candidate just for the sake of protest, does that actually add to or perhaps enhance our political process? >> well, throughout most of history, what protest candidates have really done, is raised issues that the major candidates have been adopted or co-opted, and they have moved on to essentially express those ideas in their platforms, in their campaigns, and if they have won their presidencies, in fact, you can see the focus of both bill clinton and newt gingrich issues surrounding the budget, as really being about those issues that ross perot was raising in '92. >> ifill: i remember, richard, covering jesse jackson in 1998 and 1994. he was an outsider candidate who brought up issues that nobody else brought up. >> he was absolutely, he had significantly lasting impact. you go back a few years earlier, very different can't date, an outsider named geor

we have ross perot's former campaign manager on just how big of an undertaking that would be whetherump or anyone else. there are others considering it, by the way. after this. can a business have a mind? a subconscious. a knack for predicting the future. reflexes faster than the speed of thought. can a business have a spirit? can a business have a soul? can a business be...alive? >> good afternoon, from the floor of the new york stock exchange. stocks popped at opening bell in care after little better economic news out of china and promises trade data out of europe. since then it really has been sideways trading. dow jones industrial average is is up 292 points, off the best levels of the day. check out winners on the dow. here is what is driving the industrial average. ge, walmart, bank of america, intel and goldman sachs. all shares up better than 2% at the moment with ge leading the way up nearly 4%. have a look at shares of disney getting positive action. shares up 2.25% as disney announces a deal to expand the movies app in a team partnership with amazon and microsoft.com. netf

ken: perot is the guy that said -- rightfully so. ross perot would have been a superb president. there are a lot of things going on that don' t make sense, but the fact of the matter is, i do believe that ross in good part cost george h.w. bush the presidency. he got 20% of the vote. gary: "wall street week" will be right back. >> do you use for -- facebook? ken: hell no. >> "wall street week" is sponsored in part by betterman. >> what should i do with my money? whether you are a multimillion dollar investor or just turning out, the answer is betterment. it is the smartest way to invest in the largest automated investing in the u.s.. if you' re building wealth or preparing for retirement, we provide a personalized recommendation and your money is put to work. experience smarter investing, and secure your financial future. investing made better. >> welcome to smarter investing. at better met -- betterment, we have created automated investing to help people reach their goals. we make your life better by helping you manage her money, invest in your personal goals and stay on track f

much like ross perot in 1992. when you look at the number, ross perot took numbers from bill clinton and poppy evenly. with donald trump running the way he's running, he won't be a ross perot. with him running the very hard right campaign, there is no question if he bolts the republican party and runs as an independent or third party candidate, all the votes he would get would be taken away from the republican nominee. a donald trump independent or third party candidacy would virtually guarantee, i think, that hillary clinton or some other democrat would become the next president. that gives donald trump a ton of leverage. he keeps saying if the republican party treats me nicely, we can talk about that. if they don't, i'm not going to swear that off. mr. trump has not sworn off the possibility of running not on the republican party ticket. and that has been freaking out the republican party for the obvious reasons. republican party said the states have been talking about the possibility of state based republican l

you can see what happened to ross perot happens to donald trump. fairly.d to be treated he could have easily been independent regardless of his pledge. announcer: tonight on c-span's "q&a." frompaul the six served 1963 until his death in 1978. you are looking at scenes from his coronation ceremony. final to be crowned in this manner. succeeding both have been inaugurated rather than crowned in a simple or ceremony. america, october to1965, pope paul vi's visit the united nations, the first to visit the united states and the first to address the general assembly. there is his speech and scenes of the pope arriving and greeting dignitaries in the line. announcer: the flags of the member states which are flying, and now the car approaches the door. and this will live in the memory of those who witness it. the spiritual, leader of nearly half a billion people all over the earth. a lineage of 2000 years. greeted and the house by the cheap -- chief representative of the organization made up of organizations that can't account for 2 billion people of many

this year what happened with perot happened with trump. to beks about wanting treated fairly, trump is if anything, unpredictable. announcer: sunday night on c-span's q and a. upcoming visit to the u.s.. c-span has live coverage from washington. september 23rd, pope francis will visit the white house, starting with a welcoming ceremony on the south lawn, followed by a meeting with the president. then on such over 24th, the pope makes history on capitol hill, becoming the first pontiff to address the house and senate during a joint meeting. follow all of the live coverage of the historic visit to washington. lives on television or online at c-span.org. congressman and gerry connolly is vice chair of the new democrat coalition. on washington journal we talked to him about the new democrat political agenda and foreign policy. this is 45 minutes. , member of the foreign affairs committee. let us start with the first page of "the new york times." the headline, president obama considering talks with putin on syrian crisis. should he start talkin

i can see this year what happened with perot happen with trump. he keeps wanting -- talking about wanting to be treated fairly. he could easily run as an independent. announcer: tonight at 8:00 eastern and pacific on c-span's "q&a." visit to: the pope's the u.s. c-span has live coverage. tuesday afternoon, beginning at 3:45, we live with the president and mrs. obama to greet the pope. wednesday morning, the welcoming ceremony for the pope as the obamas officially welcome him to the white house. live coverage begins at 8:45 eastern. and starting at 4:00, the mass at the basilica of the national shrine of the immaculate conception. 8:30, poperning at francis makes history, becoming the first pontiff to address a joint meeting of congress. and friday morning at 10:00, live coverage from new york as the pope speaks to the united nations general assembly. later at 11:30, the pontiff will hold a multi-religious service at the 9/11 memorial and museum. follow c-span's coverage of the pope's historic trip to the u.s. announcer: last week, president obama

ross perot showed the idea you can campaign on television. he was the first to pull it off being at 35% in the polls low and behold. you can argue obama was the first one to understand the power of social media 1.50. and other candidates learned from it at the time. you look in 1992, bill clinton starting doing arseno after he saw as it worked for perot. my question is when are the other candidates going -- is there something to learn from trump's success? i think there is but paul? >> they are trying. they are attacking him with great regularity. if they don't play on his turf they are being ignored. i don't think it will cut him down. >> you talked about how effective him he is on social media. i look at him as on the record all of there time. john mccain on steroids. the beauty of trump and i would say to the clinton people, anybody call and complain, he is on the record loall of the time. shouldn't other politicians learn from this? >> i do but it goes back to my initial point of it is the kardashian's tactic now which does say there is n

this was the only one in private hands and had been hot by ross perot in the 1980's. he decided to put it up for sale and it would be auctioned tomorrow night. the curator said that it would be unfortunate if it left the country because it is the only one in the country. it was the inspiration for the declaration of independence. i thought maybe it should stay here, so out of 17 copies i figured -- i resolved to buy it. i came back and i went to the auction and i was fortunate to win. i called ahead of the national archives and said i want to put it here on permanent loan. >> i have heard you were surprised that ross perot considered himself a patriot and did not speculum -- did not stipulate that it should stay in the united states. >> i think he was very happy that i was the winner, i'm told, because i make sure it would remain in the united states. his son was very happy that it worked out this way. i do not know why he did not stipulated that way but it worked out this way. anyone can see it in the national archives right behind me. -- the versionn that we hear ab

perot, a patriot, did not stipulate it should they in the united states. mr. rubenstein: he did not stipulate that. i don't know the reason. i think he was happy i was the winner, i am told, because it make sure it would stay in the united states. i did see his son. they were happy it worked out this way. i don't know why he did not stipulate that. it worked out ok. now anybody can see it in the national archives. it is the only version that went into effect, the 1297 version. the 1215 version is historic but never went into effect. it was abrogated by king john months after he put his seal on it because he was afraid he would be excommunicated by the pope. it never went into effect. the other versions did not have lasting effect. this one did go into effect for many years. host: when you won the auction, what was your feeling? mr. rubenstein: the auctioneer came in and said congratulations. who are you? because i have never been at 70's as a customer. i explained who i was. he said it is years provided you have the money. he said now that you own it, you can

we could see it this year what happened with perot, happens with trump. trump is if anything unpredictable he could easily run as an independent regardless of the pledge. >> tonight. >> born in 1897, pope paul vi served from 1963 until his death in 1978. you're looking at scenes of his 1963 coronation ceremony. the final pope to be crowned in this manner. succeeding popes have been inaugurated rather than crowned. from 50 years ago, pope paul vi visits the united nations. he was the first pope to travel to the united states and the first to address the u.n. general assembly. >> never again one against the other. never again. never more. was it not principally for this purpose that the united

there's a power with trump's personality that perot didn't have. being outside of washington, outside of the republican party, the republican party's relationship with trump has been rocky. i broke the store that priebus called trump, can you tone it down on immigration. trump said we'll see. he did not. he has signed this pledge but it's a political document. and i think we could see it this year what happened with perot happen with trump. he keeps talking about wanting to be treated fairly. trump, if anything, is unpredictable. he could easily run as an independent regardless of this pledge. >> sunday night at 8:00 eastern and pacific on c-span's q&a. >>> good evening, ladies and gentlemen. i'm speaking to you tonight at a very serious moment in our history. the cabinet is convening and the leaders in congress are meeting with the president. the state department and army and navy officials have been with the president all afternoon. in fact, the japanese ambassador was talking to the president at the very time japan's airships were bombing our ci

john anderson, ross perot. there are candidates who have tried to make that third-party work, and it is not. it splits the vote. and so i think there is a great reluctance. >> you are talking about a billion dollars. >> are talking about a billion dollars. >> the next question. >> my name is matthew lee. >> frank touched upon this very lightly. assuming he does make it through and is one of the candidates, where do you think the republican voters that did not support him, where will they flock to? if he does not and runs independent where does the average republican trump supporter go? >> a good question, and i'm not sure. the see ted crews being very cozy. coming to washington next week. hoping that if he does not succeed is was would go to him. i think they will split. i am not sure there is one place they will go. it's going to go down to the wire and be effective as we have seen. i'm not ready to declare that he is going to fizzle out somewhere down the road. he may. two of the other 16 we will fizzle out.

perot has a distinct personality. the celebrity factor was not there with the same way it drives people and attracts people to trump. they throw themselves at trump for autograph and picture. there's a power that perot didn't have. but, being outside of the republican party, the republican party's relationship has been rocky this year. i broke the story that preibus called trump a month ago and said can you ton it down on immigration. he did not tone it down. now trump has signed this pledge. but who know what is the pledge is worth? it's a political document. we can see what happens this year with perot happened with trump. trump is, if anything, unpredictable. he could easily run as an independent regardless of this pledge. >> sunday night on c-span3 q&a. >> next, officials from the justice department outline some of their cybersecurity concerns including the impact of encrimination. this event is two hours. >> you're here with pasco, the modern field guide to digital privacy. we're so happy that you could be here.

it's a political document and we could see this year what happened with perot happened with trump.keeps talking about wanting to be treated fairly. trump is if anything unpredictable and he could easily run as an independent regardless of his pledge. >> sunday night at 8:00 eastern and pacific on c-span's q&a. >>> there will two days of hearings on the recent gold king mine spill near silverton, colorado. it released millions of gallons of waste water into the animus river and tainted rivers in colorado, new mexico and utah. epa administrator gina mccarthy and her agency have taken full responsibility for the incident. her testimony is live tomorrow morning at 9:30 eastern here on c-span 3. then on thursday administrator mccarthy is joined by interinterior secretary sally jewell to talk about the federal response live at 10:00 a.m. eastern on c-span 3. >>> now we head to capitol hill for hearing on combatting sexual assault on college campuses, including whether should cases should be handled by the university or outside law enforcement and the criminal justice system. this is two

i have to go back to ross perot, a reluctant candidate. friend of this program and a great friend of mine ran his campaign. thethe fact is, ross perot for a moment, brief, shining moment, us interest in something called the death sentence. now you have trump who is story realstarring real emotion and interest and engagement with the american people. i'm going to say right now your witnessing something so unusual and rare, somebody who is bigger than the media itself. and the media is having a fit because they can't figure out what to do with this unwieldy force of nature. the establishment is scared to death. challenges the assumptions that the trying to preserve irrespective of the changing world all around them. i think we are watching something special. how it ends, i don't know better than anyone else, but a, but a man who looms so large over our lives and institutions that it is exciting to watch. >> i ask people to think about what this race would look like if he were not in it. we would not be talking about many issues, particularly

. >> ross perot has a distinct personality that is different. the celebrity factor was not there in the same way that it attracts people to trump. 'sere is a power with trump personality that ross perot did not have. the republican party's relationship with trump has been rocky. i broke a story a couple of months ago that he was asked to tone it down on immigration. he has now signed a pledge, but he knows what it is worth. we could see this year what happened with ross perot happened to trump. he talks about wanting to be treated fairly. trump is unpredictable, and could easily run as an independent regardless of the pledge. that is on c-span's key mandate. >> now donald trump holds a rally in san pedro california on the battleship the uss iowa. this is 15 minutes. mr. trump: thank you so much. i did not expect that. willroup called and said you come and speak? i'm here for reason. you know what is tomorrow night. i asked a couple of days ago if it would be possible to say a few words. an endorsement from your group with so many veterans -- hun

he gave up the award for the best drama series for given perot's. he gave a speech faking them for their support after his 2014 car accident. he didn't lose his sense of humor. >> the only recently i have started to be myself again which means a lot of young women are going to get pregnant at the after party. [laughter] >> surveillance cameras and bulletproof falls it is the first safe school. >> i expected something a little more snazzy. >> have a story we should know about? help us to chase it down. "chasing news".com / tips. >> a second chance. will he like i love shrimp, red lobster's endless shrimp... ...is kind of a big deal. it's finally back, with as much shrimp as you want, any way you want 'em. one taste of these new pineapple habanero coconut shrimp bites, and i already want more. they even brought back wood-grilled teriyaki shrimp! yeah, you heard me: teriyaki. and really: what's not to love about... ...buttery garlic shrimp scampi? here, the sweet, spicy, crispy possibilities are as endless as the shrimp. and yeah, they're endless, >> y

just like that last caller said, he back ross perot and never backed nobody but a democrat but ross perot. but look what happened to ross perot. that's what's going to happen again. go vote for joe biden. joe biden is the best person to run for president. >> how come? what is it about him that appeals to you? >> caller: because joe biden is a good, honest man. he's a good family man. you can tell that. he's hurting now because he lost his son. i haerds him last night talking. he's still hurting. that's one reason he hasn't jumped in the ring yet. he said it had nothing to do with money. he said, i can raise it just like that. he can because obama people will help him. he said it's just a hurt that hasn't gone away yet. he's lost family before. his family comes first. when a person puts his family first, that should tell you what kind of person he is. i'm almost choked up myself talking about it. >> what kind of race do you think it would be, james, if he got in against hillary clinton, bernie sanders, and the others? >> caller: i think it would be a good race because he's a different joe

we can see this year what happened with perot, happen with trump.ps talking about wanting to be treated fairly. if anything he is unpredictable and he could easily run as an independent regardless of his pledge. >> sunday night at in eastern and pacific on c-span today. network features a weekend full of politics, books, and american history. today beginning at 9:30 on we are we are alive -- live in new hampshire for the mechanic party convention. speakers include hillary, bernie sanders, lincoln chafee, martin o'malley, and lawrence lessig. on sunday a conversation with jimmy and rosalynn carter on current events and the carter center's work around the world. on c-span2 booktv, supreme court justice stephen breyer talks about his recent book and the challenges facing the american judiciary including the application of american law and international contexts. and tonight at 11:00 former vice dick cheney and his daughter on their books, "exceptional there cap on american history tv today at georgiaare live from for a commemoration for the 30,000 unio

the celebrity factor isn't there with perot. people are throwing themselves at trump for his autograph, a picture. there's a power with trump's personality that perot didn't have. but being outside of washington, being outside of the republican party, the republican party's relationship with trump has been rocky this year. i broke the story that priebus called trump a couple months ago and said "can you tone it down on immigration?" trump said "we'll see." he did not tone it down. now he's signed this pledge but who knows what the pledges are. it's a political document and we can see it this year what happened with pro happen with trump. he keeps talking about wanting to be treated fairly. trump is if anything unpredictable and he could easily run as an independent regardless of this pledge. >>> sunday night at 8:00 eastern and pacific on c-span's "q&a." >>> the aspen institute, lbj presidential library and robert wood johnson foundation teamed up to mark the 50th anniversary of medicare and medicaid this year. to mark the occas

and didn't go so well. >> ross perot went out for different reasons. when he dropped out, he was number one. bill clinton was number three. after ross dropped, bill clinton chose al gore and his fortunes changed. i think david has a really interesting point, not just the business dealings, not just the companies themselves. they have to reveal a lot of financial records and they can often be used against rich candidates and business candidates. it's one of the reason that you don't see them step up and say i'm willing to be dominated of this or that. they don't want to put all of it out. >> mitt romney's return in 2012, the low tax rate, cayman islands. >> there's going to be a lot of questions before this is over. >> chris christie went after trump and fiorina together for talking about their business careers so much. listen to how he put it. >> i'm as entertained as anyone by this personal back and forth about the history of donald and carly's career for the 55 construction worker out in the audience tonight who doesn't have a job, can't fund his chi

martha: ross perot did it. he was up on stage. >> at one point he was in the lead in some polling. i don't know if that's what donald trump would be as an independent. the republic keans's counting on to support him and the reason he signed the pledge would probably not hang around. martha: thanks, buddy. gregg: investigators have a brand-new lead in the killing of an illinois police officer. the latest on the man opportunity for three suspects who are still at large. martha: the king of saudi arabia coming to the united states. why he's turning heads at the four seasons. let's discuss medical supplies i'm kind of happy with my guys. i think you'll love our newest line the stuff my vendor sells works fine. and my budget's small, just so you know. ♪ should i stay or should i go when you choose to go for business, go to the new choicehotels.com it makes finding the right room faster and easier than ever. and right now stay two times and earn a free night book now at choicehotels.com and i've heard it all... the well-meaning advice of friends... the guarded words of doctors... the bra

i wanted to vote for ross perot. he is the most smartest guy i have ever seen. [indiscernible] -- because they threatened to kill his daughters. he has never been on tv again. now you get rand paul on their telling everybody to buy this book -- there telling everybody to buy this book. all the people that are profiting from it other people in the stock market. host: do you have a question for the congressman? caller: i am so frustrated. that is all they do all the time. you get people -- their families are going down the tubes because they don't make enough money to pay rent. and you are talking about bull shit. guest: i don't think ross perot has faded from the scene because he can take care of himself. i have not heard that and i don't necessarily think he was threatened physically. it seems like he is a pretty capable guy. the larger question you are raising is frustration about the candidates. look, this is the process. this is the process of governing. this is the process the united states has of choosing and selecting our leaders. so what you will find ove

i asked him about 1992 when ross perot ran. i said was ross perot a spoiler?id in a second absolutely. >> i don't see donald trump cowering to the rnc. he hasn't shown any indication that he is going to listen to anybody. maybe he will sign it tomorrow at 2:00. maybe 2:300 we will know. we will have breaking news. >> we will. >> never dull. thank you both. president obama scoring a major win today. not everyone is happy about it. senator rand p >>> president obama scoring a major win today as he gets critical backing for his highly controversial iran nuclear deal. retiring maryland democratic senator barbara mckowski announcing her support for the deal. with her yes vote, president now has enough votes to block republicans from veto towing the deal. g.o.p. presidential candidate senator rand paul goes "on the record." nice to see you, sir. >> thanks for having me. >> so, barbara mckowski puts him over the top? >> i think we have all prematurely given the president a victory without announcing how badly he is going to be defeated. 66 u.s. senators are going to