after hitler fuses are joining us that naval mission to bolster security in the persian gulf all amid rising tensions between iran and the u.s. is. on way to her aka welcome to the show everyone cohen's capital city has come to a standstill to mark the 75th anniversary of the warsaw uprising thousands gathered in the city center as the sirens rang out to honor those who lost their lives fighting the german occupation during world war 2 the polish presidents and prime minister attended a ceremony at the powwows cemetery in the presence. the veterans of the insurgency and warsaw uprising began in 1944 and is considered the largest military resistance operation against nazi occupation while the effort was ultimately crushed by the occupying forces here's a closer look at that significant historical event. the germans were retreating the red army was approaching the poles finally saw their chance on august 1st 1904 units from the polish home army and underground resistance launched their armed struggle to liberate warsaw from nazi occupation it was one of the largest such efforts of the w

strategy in the persian gulf? we haven't talked about what is going on there. it is a real murky set of subjects. can, anybody else can jump in. >> it doesn't necessarily have to be in the gulf to be effective. the issue is, what i look at is these deployment that have been announced since may. there have been several batches, including deployments of some advanced combat aircraft, additional defense weaponry. u.s. forces are back at the air base where they have not been since 2003. the question is, are these deployments deterring iran? and, i would have to say, not yet, because iran is still attacking tankers and seizing tankers. this goes back to what i started with when i gave my talk, that iran feels very confident because they can make so much trouble for the united states at this point, that they are emboldened to push the envelope to get what they want. you know, what i say to people, anybody that thinks a u.s.-iran war will be limited to the strait of hormuz is just not looking at what i'm looking at, or what anybody at this panel has been looking at. so

iran says it has seized another foreign flag oil tanker in the persian gulf 7 crew members have also been arrested iran's revolutionary guard said the tanker was smuggling around 700000 liters of oil through the persian gulf to unnamed arab countries the incident actually took place on wednesday but has only now been announced it would be the 3rd chevron has seized in recent weeks the country is still holding the stand imperio british tanker another ship was released with a warning. for more analysis i'm now joined by marcus kind senior fellow at the german institute for international and security affairs here in berlin so this is the 3rd tanker that we know of at least that iran has seized in the past weeks is there any substance to these accusations of oil smuggling or is this just iran being provocative i think we have 2 very different patents for just one. british think it was a clear signal to the united kingdom to the well. in general so it wasn't about the tank as such but more political signal don't mess around with iran. seizure of the small vessel today and another vessel a

should send ships to iran because they we wanted to protect the persian gulf. antislavery to control all of the -- what was piracy and it is the dynamics of great powers and regime of power. so some of these things is that -- i don't want to use it again, but the united states wants global and secondly wants in middle east and iran is challenging germany, iranians, if you make your bed, you have to lie in it. i'm not saying that u.s. has rights, no, but iran also has to realize that it cannot fight with united states and not to be punished. this is going to happen. and so it seems to me that, you know, the french have expression and i have to confess -- the french have word, at the end of the day, at the end of day you have to slide things, in other words, you have fundamental vision. by contrast, i studied in england, by contrast, no, if it's wishy washy, you will get something, doesn't work. i believe iran-u.s. relations have relieved level that has to be -- and i think either u.s. accepts iran as regional player and then in exchange for that iran has to beco

this has always been a connection between the levant and the persian gulf. anyway, i don't want to go too much into that, this is a problem of age, too many historical memories. i think that as long as iran is not willing to change policy, and i don't think they are yet willing to do that, it is going to be difficult to talk. the iranian regime does not show any sign that they are willing to do that. they are willing to come to an agreement with the arab states, all arab states, from egypt to even saudi arabia. recently, there have been lots of talks, maybe eve bin salman is changing, but that would mean leaving the persian gulf politics from the labonte politics. -- from the levant politics. arabs all iran might make them more accommodating to israel and so on. i think iran is just lost in this, they don't know what they are doing. iranof the problem is that unfortunately, in an article recently argued that the iranian regime needs a new basis for its political legitimacy. i said they have to change the revolutionary framework into a framework that is basic

for example, about the shipping in the persian gulf. or about -- and one step will be to allow the process of reconciliation between iran and the gulf to go forward. and i think that iran is ready and no problem with saudi arabia, and then they can build upon that and hopefully -- you see, we have always put pre-conditions for iran. rather than looking at it as a process, the end of this will be iran stopping its nefarious activities and others, but if you go, the clinton administration did that and others, that you have to accept these things and then we can talk, but that's not negotiation. that's basically demanding surrender. and i think that really is very difficult with any kind of par party. >> i want too aed to the question that you had about trump specifically and how he sort of fits into the picture. so i think this is fascinating because he wanted to coin the phrase, you're fired. so, it seems like it's possible for him, if he wanted to, to as he's done so many times in his administration, fire the people who are guiding his

ron totally rejects that all together because considers the persian gulf its own backyard and its. that is responsible for the safety of shipping there so iran is willing to put together its own naval mission with other neighboring countries like oman the united arab emirates what even saudi arabia but so far that was not excess yet but iran says any other country is sending ships through the persian gulf is a security threat and that's not only for countries like the us great britain or even israel that iran considers enemy countries but if that's also true for european countries that runs this iranians agree here that any other country sending ships you know is a security threat to iran to use to race a trooper and iran thank you. let's get a quick check of some other stories making news around the world tensions have spiked in kashmir where a border clash as left 8 soldiers dead that's according to the pakistani army it says that 3 of its soldiers and 5 indian soldiers have been killed kashmir has been on lockdown for 11 days since india provoked the special status of the bridge

tensions peaked when the us deployed an aircraft carrier and bombers to the persian gulf. from threaten to obliterate iran yet called off a planned air strike up an ostomy that war with iran is the mother of all wars counted iran's president hassan rouhani though he signaled a willingness to talk. just a lot of saber rattling before they sit down at the negotiating table. as i used to question is it a lot of saber rattling or is there more to it for the again the chronology that you're all film shows. it is wrong because it starts as if you know the stroke of the pen by by donald trump was it wise was it not wise i don't know it was the beginning iran has been used you said it has been attacking in the region syria yemen and lebanon on. funding hamas funding terror groups all over the place for years now and the the withdrawal from the nuclear agreement was a retaliation to aggression which started with iran now i'm not saying that saudi arabia for instance which is scared stiff of iran is that some kind of angel is there a horrible regime but they are a status quo receive

the grace was captured iran seized a british tanker in the strait of hormuz the gateway to the persian gulf so will the british tanker now be released d.w. correspondent reza tropper said this is from. the straits of hormuz to the british black tanker has already been moved from the place where it was detained in the strait of hormuz a couple of weeks ago closer to the port and bandar abbas where the revolutionary guards are controlling everything and that's a place we have foreign specifically as journalists cannot go to as we were told to not quote and danger proceedings so apparently they're still preparing for an exchange but we have to keep in mind that the revolutionary guards in iran as a whole do not have a lot of trust in the united states or the united kingdom so before the iranian vessel in gibraltar is not free this peril here in the persian gulf will not be released either iran's foreign minister zarif said. to stop the release of the tanker was an attempt piracy move so he said washington was abusing the international legal system to steal iranian property and that is if you s

ron totally rejects that altogether because ron considers the persian gulf its own backyard and it feels it is. responsible for the safety of shipping there so iran is willing to put together its own naval mission with other neighboring countries like oman the united arab emirates even saudi arabia but so far that was not access yet but iran says any other country sending military zips through the persian gulf is a security threat and that's not only for countries like the us great britain or even israel that iran consider as enemy countries but it that's also true for european countries iran says and iranians agree here that any other country sending ships here is a security threat to iran debbie used to race a trooper and iran thank you. and let's get more now with scott lucas professor of international politics at the university of birmingham in the u.k. welcome to the program scott and what do you make of this decision by the court and baltar to release the iranian vessel. well i think legally it's a pretty straightforward decision and. the 1st minister did not ask for the ship to co

the united kingdom so before the iranian vessel in gibraltar is not free this peril here in the persian gulf will not be released either iran's foreign minister zarif said. to stop the release of the tanker was an attempt piracy move so he said washington was abusing the international legal system to steal iranian property and that is if you sat by many iranians as well we've spoken to some people here on my island and they. said they do not want a conflict to happen with other countries not here in their region and not elsewhere but that they are willing to step up and defend their own country if necessary so that is why everybody here in the persian gulf is monitoring very closely what is happening in. a serious drop reportedly out of caution in the straits of hormuz let's take a look now at some of the other stories making news around the world bombs exploded in a mosque in pakistan during friday prayers killing 4 people wounding at least 20 explosion happened in the city of quetta area where the taliban has a strong presence brother of the afghan taliban leader is said to be amongst the

in the persian gulf where each side is accusing the other of aggression tension rose in july when iran seems the british tanker the u.s. and the u.k. are both stepping up their military presence in the region but europe or at least continental europe is refusing to get on board the u.s. naval mission and is instead continuing to put its face in the nuclear deal struck with iran in 2015 which president trump withdrew america from last year. so our question this week here on quadriga is iran crisis europe on the sidelines and to discuss that question i'm joined here in the studio by early for tolling the . middle east expert with think tanks like the brookings institution and the german council on foreign relations he argues that the big challenge is to transcends 2 equally simplistic perceptions of the islamic republic europe's tendency towards glorification of washington's polish all full demonetization and also with us is alan posner regular commentator for the bergen based elite team felt he believes that europe is on the front line of iran's aggression if we choose appeasement he sa

what have your month britain's interests are most likely to be in completing its imperium in the persian gulf by securing the territories of the province the bus route baghdad link as they were to persian oil fields and other done island in the shot that are up. nicely completing dominion that stretched right around the earth coastline of the persian gulf which is the place it's an $820.00 s. . good morning general part of illinois so if you want some time to settle. and it's youngest. and most carefree was mark sykes who was kitchener's military assistant kitchener was the secretary of state for war and he delegated the job of sitting on the committee to sykes mark sykes had been born into a wealthy family in yorkshire in the north of england in 879. he studied at cambridge university and was elected as a conservative member of parliament. in 1011. he like to give the impression of being an expert on the middle east based on his travels in the region but he was not quite the authority as it was sometimes assumed. he presented the bunsen committee with his vision of a new near east region as

and this is a tense situation in the persian gulf whatever these patterns are what does this mean for europe for european oil supplies for european trade routes for the economy i mean in general your country's resource poor resources and the highly dependent on and exports and imports therefore they haven't you which interest in the freedom of the seas the freedom of navigation and all that sea lanes internationally and in particularly there are a persian gulf to 20 to 30 percent of the t.v. all production is shipped through therefore i think we have a very interesting debate here in europe going on in germany and in the other european countries about the maritime mission about patrolling the seas is taking of this debate so this this latest incident which took place last week which we found out about today we've heard some increased calls for european security missions in the strait of hormuz could this defuse the situation. or would it just make things worse i think we have to differentiate what if the us plans still on the table which is not acceptable to the european countries u.k

led naval mission in the persian gulf i think at the moment that's very unlikely i mean the last thing that any allies want at the moment is any kind of tapped the time to repercussions because of the decision as you say to not join this u.s. led mission at the moment the e.u. like germany will be looking for a way in which they can haps support. the u.s. led mission and so it might be that we see perhaps a reckon asen mission by the e.u. which would just be having a little look around and see what's going on compromise and probably they're going to find some elegant way out over the sorry your political correspondent as always thank you for not for your analysis. and next we're going to stay in the u.s. because the governor of the u.s. territory of puerto rico he cardoso or say leo is resigning tomorrow following a massive protest up to half a 1000000 a puerto rican so have taken to the streets in recent weeks angered by corruption economic mismanagement and the response to a recent devastating hurricane while the last straw appears to have been a leak chats in which the governor voic

by invitation of some of the arab states in the persian gulf that the u.s. posture there to deter iran. look at what the u.s. has done against isis in places like iraq and syria. forces where a judicious of americans has done a lot. guest: we go to -- host: we go to new jersey, republican. caller: good morning. , on miketo ask what pompeo's laundry list of activities by iran, was senseted by iran in the that it was not in direct response to the fact that we pulled out of the nuclear deal? either ourtions by so-called ally israel or ourselves in the region? that is one thing. name me one thing on the list that was not a legitimate response by iran to activities by the united states or israel. secondly, please explain to the world why iran is routinely referred to as the greatest exporter of terrorism in the world. and if that is the case, then please explain the difference between the sunni regimes like saudi arabia and the shia regime like iran, and what terror organizations are associated with the sunni regime versus what terror organizations are associated

carry carry the conflict into the international trade to the persian gulf and the strait of hormuz. the europeans became much more alert to add to that the fact that they were not able to actually cooperate with their strongest partner the usa in keeping mission to secure and protect the free passage through the persian gulf because the frictions on the on the iran issue and i think this is also one of the reasons why the way the europeans tried to actually get back into talking mode with the u.s. as president tom said who knows maybe we will see some movement on that issue garrett coming back to you on one of the other big issues we've been talking a lot about today namely the u.s. is trade conflict with china and we heard president trump say a few times during that press conference that china is really suffering from this but we also heard president called say we have recognize the fact that the rules governing world trade at the moment aren't really working they aren't really fair so what did you make of that. well i think it was another effort off of my call really putting on th

states or the united kingdom so before the iranian vessel is not freed this peril here in the persian gulf will not be released either now the u.s. is against your brawl to releasing the iranian tanker that it has tried to block it with legal moves so far is iran concerned that the u.s. could take further steps to prevent the ships return. well at least nobody here would be surprised by that iran's foreign minister zarif said washington's 1st attempt to stop the release of the tanker was an attempt piracy move so he said washington was abusing the international legal system to steal iranian property and that is if you sat by many iranians we've spoken to some people here. and they say they do not want a conflict to happen with other countries not here in their region and elsewhere but that they are willing to step up and defend their own country if necessary so that is why everybody here in the persian gulf is monitoring very closely what is happening. but they were just talking about 2 ships here but there's of course of much bigger story going on the conflict between iran and the united

has also deployed ships into the persian gulf the u.s. wants to strengthen its presence here to guarantee the passage of international cargo ships which has angered the iranian government as well as the iranian people i don't think they would welcome any sort of you know military presence from the region itself that's a part of iran's political culture not to you know with. you know. local actors in the region. few people on the island of a movie seem interested in politics they're just hoping there will be a swift end to the regional standoff. been a seminar if the tensions are resolved the entire economy improve and we're part of that. everyone is out of work here in hormuz i don't know what to do with my wife and kids we can't all live on fishing alone. things would improve for tourism more tourists would pay a visit to this island and that way it could develop. without stability turning homo's into a popular tourist destination remains a distant prospect. our next story takes us to northern ireland with a no deal brick secluding peopl

in has been a lot of tension in persian gulf, u.s. pushed for an international maritime security initiative, focused on protecting commercial transit in the gulf, uk announcing they will join u.s. navy in those efforts, germany already said they would not join a u.s.-lead mission in persian gulf in part they believe u.s. policy of maximum pressure is a bad one, australia said they are giving consideration to joining the u.s.-led mission. elizabeth: thank you so much. >> for his expe expertise, joine now, retired four-star general jack keane. what next step do you see happening from this. >> i don't think that strategy that the iran an ar iranian arel succeed, they are attempting to create an economic crisis by interrupting flow of oil through the persian gulf, they sabotaged 6 tankers, it backfired on them because they got caught, it did not disrupt the flow of oil, here, because the coalition is forming, i don't think they will be able to succeed, that will push back on the iranians, they don't want to get into a gunfight with u.s. or

iran says it sees another foreign flag oil tanker in the persian gulf 7 crew members have also been arrested iran's revolutionary guard has said the tanker was smuggling some 700000 liters of oil through the persian gulf to unnamed arab countries incident took place on wednesday but has only now been announced it would be the 3rd ship seized by iran in recent weeks it's still holding the stand and pair o. a british tanker while another ship was released without a warning. let's get a check now of some of the other stories making news around the world and russian police arrested more than 800 people attending a protest in moscow on saturday and the protesters are calling on the government to allow opposition candidates to run in city elections demonstrators were rallying for the 2nd weekend in a row despite authorities warning that the protest was illegal. rescue teams in the u.k. are still racing to repair a collapsed down in the northern town of wally bridge that's at imminent risk of flooding more than one and a half 1000 residents have been evacuated as forecast of heavy rain and to the d

has also deployed ships into the persian gulf the u.s. wants to strengthen its presence here to guarantee the passage of international cargo ships which has angered the iranian government as well as the iranian people . i don't think they will do welcome any sort of you know military presence from the region itself that's a part of iran's political culture not to you know ally with. you know non local actors in the region iran try to reach out to again to you know many countries in the region kuwait qatar. and they are open of course to the u.a.e. and i think saudi arabia as well to discuss these kind of issues and. there's been no movement on the issue so far iran's neighbors seem unwilling to offer support. few people on the island of seem interested in politics they're just hoping there will be a swift end to the regional standoff. been a sentiment against the tensions are resolved the entire economy improve and we're part of that. everyone is out of work here in hormuz i don't know what to do with my wife and kids we can't all live on

has also deployed ships into the persian gulf the u.s. wants to strengthen its presence here to guarantee the passage of international cargo ships which has angered the iranian government as well as the iranian people . i don't think they would welcome any sort of you know military presence from the region itself that's a part of iran's political culture not to you know. actors in the region try to reach out to again to you know many countries in the region in kuwait. and they are open of course to the u.a.e. and i think saudi arabia as well to discuss these kind of issues. there's been no movement on the issue so far iran's neighbors seem unwilling to offer support. few people on the island of moves seem interested in politics they're just hoping there will be a swift end to the regional standoff. bene's m. and again if the tensions are resolved the entire economy improve and we're part of that. everyone is out of work here in hormuz i don't know what to do with my wife and kids we can't all live on fishing alone. if you see things would

united kingdom so before the iranian vessel in gibraltar eyes not freed this peril here in the persian gulf will not be released either now the u.s. is against your brawl to releasing the iranian tanker that it is has tried to block it with legal moves so far is iran concerned that the u.s. could take further steps to prevent the ships return. well at least nobody here would be surprised by that iran's foreign minister zarif said washington's 1st attempt to stop the release of the tanker was an attempt piracy move so he said washington was abusing the international legal system to steal iranian property and that is if you sat by many iranians as well we've spoken to some people smile and they say they do not want a conflict to happen with other countries in their region and not elsewhere but that they are willing to step up and defend their own country if necessary so that is why everybody here in the persian gulf is monitoring very closely what is happening and. ok we're just talking about 2 ships here but there's of course a much bigger story going on the conflict between iran and the uni

to the persian gulf is a security threat and that's not only for countries like the u.s. great britain or even israel that iran considers enemy countries but that's also true for european countries iran and iranians agree here that any other country sending ships you know is a security threat to iran. used to race a trooper and iran thank you. and let's get more now with scott lucas professor of international politics at the university of birmingham in the u.k. welcome to the program scott and what do you make of this decision by the court into baltar to release the iranian vessel. well i think legally it's a pretty straightforward decision in that the 1st minister did not ask for the ship to continue to be held there is an assurance that it was not one to deliver oil to syria which would violate e.u. sanctions and the u.s. requests through the justice department was rebuffed because it has nothing to do with that matter but politically that's a huge question does the united states now put pressure on the u.k. which said this was a matter for the general to courts to try

is considering sending a naval force to the persian gulf to protect merchant vessels so would iran support backed. no way public believes that if. it is supposed to defend the strait of hormuz and make sure that shipping here is safe and so it's willing to build its own mission with neighboring countries like qatar the united arab emirates even the saudis. to make sure that shipment here is safe. all other countries that have ships yes specifically warships are considered a threat to security of course especially the ones that are considered enemy countries like the u.s. like great britain and also israel but also the european union so iranians and the iranian government agree that all other ships except their own and other ships of this region would be a security threat to the persian gulf. the senate as much as speaking to us from iran thank you. and let's get some more analysis on the story with scott lucas he's a professor of international politics at the university of birmingham hi scott so what do you think of this move by the u.s. why has it applied to seize this iranian tanker beca

based on experience presence of the united states important neighbor fleet in the persian gulf has never produced security we have all very sad memories of u.s. ships downing an iranian airliner. in 1988 killing 290 passengers so we believe that the best you u.s. can do for protection of. maritime navigation is to just leave people alone don't interfere this is. basically a hostile act against iran and i do not believe it will have any impact other than in security we have the longest course on the persian gulf and on the sea obama and the strait of hormuz and we have historically maintained freedom of navigation and security in the region along with our neighbors and once again we call on our neighbors to come together for security for 20 years see the string of events that took place in the body of water over the last few months you have drones dial and you have 10 cars mysteriously attacks which is now. putting more pressure on the international committee of the americas in particular to say you know what it's about time to take action now it's about time to stop terrorizing iranian p

will be on fire there will be no oil and gas exports from the persian gulf anymore and the united states will be driven out of the region and millions of people from the arabian peninsula arabian peninsula will be on the move towards europe the global economy will collapse and so the saudi regime and their morality regime will not last very long so there are huge implications and it is very important for europeans and americans to push back against the more foolish elements in the political political order whether in the united states or in countries like britain or saudi arabia or the emirates or israel you know. go back to debate root professor marandi is absolutely correct here the problem with all of this is that the there's no real political debate in particularly the united states on these issues he. i think 11 hopeful thought in all of this is that donald trump wants to be reelected and he knows he knows very very well that his base elected him in 2016 do not want another foreign adventure and it's very very clear from the polling results here i think this is the thing that

iran later captured a british flags tanker near the persian gulf reports suggest iran is planning to release that ship. of war now let's cross over to d. w's teresa tropper she joins us from cash show me an island in the strait of hormuz such a recent iran is obviously eager to get its ship back from joe brawl to if it does will it then release that british flag tank from what we're hearing that it's very likely to happen yes the british flag tanker has already been moved from the place where it was detained in the strait of hormuz a couple of weeks ago closer to the port in bandar abbas where the islamic revolutionary controlling everything and that's a place we have foreign specifically us journalists cannot go to as we were told to not quote and danger proceedings so apparently they're still preparing for an exchange but we have to keep in mind that the revolution in iran as a whole do not have a lot of trust in the united states or the united kingdom so before the iranian vessel in gibraltar eyes not freed this in peril here in the persian gulf will not be released either now the