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is whether or not that will be enough to stop the aggression against ukraine i want to bring in peter baker he's the chief white house correspondent for "the new york times," and a political analyst for msnbc. peter, president biden promising those harsh sanctions, but putin, of course, no stranger to sanctions, and what do you think the reaction will be does putin even care about these sanctions? >> well, he should care. the sanctions could have an impact on russia's economy, russia's ability to interact with the rest of the world truth is he's already factored this in. hew knew exactly what the west was likely to do if he were to take this step, and now the west will do it that means he knows he's going to pay a price it's not going to be a deterrent. the question is whether the punishment can over time inflict enough harm it causes, you know, a change in his behavior that seems unlikely at the moment what we've got here in russia is a leader who thinks he's acting to history he's reassembling to some extent the empire that broke apart in 1991 and that's a really hard thing to influence w

msnbc political analyst peter baker is here. also tim miller, former rnc spokesman, writer at large for the bulwark and msnbc contributor. and msnbc political analyst, former senator claire mccaskill is here, a member of the senate armed services committee, and retired army lieutenant colonel alexander vindman is here, former director for european affairs with the national security council. we're going to dive into the propaganda piece of this, because i think we have to dispel the notion that the fever can be broken or that there is something else going on. it is clear we're on the precipice of what you feared most, and i wonder if you can tell me your understanding and your sense of what the next 12 to 24 hours hold. >> predicting within 12 to 24 hours is tough. but what i see is that russian forces are poised for a major offensive. for those folks that were thinking that this might somehow end with a limited campaign, russia is now pushed almost an entire force to assault positions, these are the last positions before they ju

one more question to you, peter baker, on the subject of china. china has been, in some ways, a variable here. will china support vladimir putin if the west cuts him off and does levy the mother of all sanctions? we haven't really heard much from china on how they feel about russia's move. we heard a little bit. what should we expect in terms of chinese reaction? >> reporter: i think you see this really interesting balancing act they're taking right now. so president putin went to visit president xi at the start of the olympics. they presented this common front. they released this 5,000-word joint manifesto, the long-discussed possible beijing/moscow access. at the same time this is something that troubles china. the idea of using force, the sovereignty of ukraine is something, again, they put out a statement saying ukraine's sovereignty ought to be respected even as they agreed with russia's complaints about nato expansion. it's an odd position for them to be in. there's the issue of taiwan which is central to beijing's concerns. does the situati

joining me now, chief "the new york times" white house correspondent, peter baker. read the news of putin saying he's putting forces, including nuclear arms, deterrence forces on high alert? is it more sinister than just reaction to battlefield forces? >> well, look, this is vladimir putin trying to remind the world he has one of the nuclear buttons that can destroy the planet, there are still only two or three people on the planet who have the ability to launch a nuclear war of catastrophic proportions and he's one of them. so we shouldn't diminish him as a second rate power or write him off or assume he's weak. this goes back to the beginning of putin's reign, projecting strength and toughness is central to his core foreign policy. this is his way of rattling the nuclear saber saying, don't underestimate me, i'm still the guy who can inflict enormous damage across the world. does that mean he will actually do it? we hope not, actually. the discussion you just had with jason crow and marco rubio, the idea of rattling the nuclear saber seems unbalanced at this point.

chief for "usa today" susan page and chief white house correspondent for "the new york times," peter bakerte her own protestations, she is very good politically. there's a reason why she had a 60% approval rating when she left as secretary of state. we often don't see this side of hillary clinton. certainly that speech was more persuasive than anything we saw on the 2016 campaign. >> well, of course, what we're going to see is lots of talk about what does this mean, does it mean she wants to try to come back herself in 2024. you actually see the fox crowd kind of happy about that idea, that they can have her again as a target. she has been really, you know, following an interesting pattern the last four or five years in which she tried largely not to be too public, not to present herself as a convenient target for her opponents, but obviously she has decided this is a time she can come out and begin to play a leadership role at a time when the midterm elections will be so crucial for democrats and republicans this fall. >> and i think, susan page, she has made the right decision. if you ar

and peter baker is joining me now. always, peter, it's great to see you and talk to you at this hour. talk me through this standoff that we are seeing between vladimir putin and joe biden and how their standoff is comparable to kennedy and khrushchev. >> well, it's not comparable in the sense that we're not in a direct military potential situation with russia. we're not about to go to war with russia, certainly not intentionally. president biden made very clear he's not sending american troops to ukraine. but it is a standoff for basically the international order and in fact for the future of europe. i think in some ways we haven't seen an american president and russian president eyeball to eyeball in this way in the six decades since kennedy and khrushchev. there were moments of great friction, during the cold war, especially, but never in crisis in an acute way with guns blazing in the middle of europe and so much at stake. you saw consequences for everyday russians as well as the russian elite. president biden has m

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now is erin mclaughlin in kyiv, and courtney kube at the pentagon, and msnbc political analyst, peter baker. this news breaking a moment ago from president zelensky in his facebook post. what are you hearing there? >> in that facebook post, katy, president zelensky saying that his government has been told that february 16th will be the day of a possible attack. that is in just two days' time, and he is calling on ukrainians to raise the flag and use yellow and blue ribbons in a show of solidarity for ukraine. we also heard tonight from the head of ukraine's national police saying that police throughout the country will be on a heightened state of alert until february 19th. there will be an increased police presence guarding critical infrastructure and monuments here in a heightened state of alertness. and we heard president zelensky calling on all of the oligarchs that have flown on private jets and left ukraine to return to the country in the next 24 hours saying that he and his family both intend to remain here in kyiv. i have been speaking to ukrainians that say they are extraordinary co

with me to talk about this, nbc news chief foreign correspondent richard engel, peter baker, co-author"kremlin rising: vladimir putin's russia and the end of revolution." richard haass, president of the council on foreign relations and author of "the world, a brief introduction." with us from kyiv the political editor for the kyiv independent, an english media outlet. richard engel, what message is putin trying to send with these drills in belarus? >> reporter: well, if you're here in ukraine, the message is quite clear, that russia has not given up on ukraine, that it wants ukraine to obey putin's will and feels increasingly surrounded. it is not just the 30,000 troops in belarus carrying out phase two of their military exercises which began today. this is a much more active phase. they have also set up positions near highway routes that could take russian troops very quickly to kyiv. kyiv is very close to the belarusian border. it feels this phase two of the exercise could be a potential rehearsal for a military invasion of kyiv. it's not just to the north. there's been a consistent

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and peter baker is chief white house correspondent for "the new york times." thanks for being with us. richard, take me to the ground in ukraine. is there any evidence russians are actually pulling back? >> reporter: well, russia, according to its own media and the ministry of defense, is tulling back a small number of troops. the secretary-general of nato just said a short while ago that he doesn't see any evidence of a real de-escalation. and ukrainian officials are also saying that russia moves its troops all the time. sometimes they go closer to the border, sometimes they pull back, and that it has seen this kind of maneuver before. this is the third time since december that russia has said that it has done a partial withdrawal of forces. so something does appear to be happening. russia is certainly going to great lengths to show that it is de-escalating and actually when an official in moscow, peskov, the spokesman for vladimir putin was asked, is this a russian de-escalation, he flipped the question on his head. he said there was never any russian escala

. >>> peter baker, msnbc political analyst and chief white house correspondent for "the new york times," and nbc's josh lederman is back with us as well. it was a very strong statement that president biden made, he said it in response to a question, it was not in prepared remarks. >> reporter: that's right, alex, from what we understand, president biden didn't go into that appearance making that specific piece of news. that wasn't part of what his aides had prepped him to do necessarily. but that assessment from the president is, from all accounts, very consistent with what the u.s. intelligence community believes at this time. in the hours after that, we heard from the defense secretary, we heard from the secretary of state. both concurring with president biden's assessment of that. and in fact, the white house is not backing away in any way from that or suggesting that there has been any de-escalation. the white house saying in a statement last night that president biden was briefed yesterday by his advisers that russia still remains poised to attack ukraine at any time, alex. >> so

joining me now is peter baker, msnbc political analyst and chief white house correspondent for "the newmes." welcome, my friend. the ball certainly seems to be in putin's court. the world is literally waiting to see what he's going to do next. what kind of sense do you have from the white house about how the next few days are going to play out? >> well, i think that the white house feels that they have probably a little bit of time before any actual actions would take place, if for no other reason that putin is unlikely to want to upstage the beijing olympics and anger his friend xi jinping. we saw putin travel to beijing this week to stand next to xi jinping. i don't think he wants to do anything to sort of change that dynamic that he's got going. but that doesn't leave a lot of time. that's still going to be a number of days, about a week and a half way where we could see some sort of action. whether he's going to follow through on it, nobody really knows. the american intelligence agencies seem very, very certain that he is at least poised to do it, that it's a genuine option for him

. >>> let's bring in peter baker, chief white house correspondent for "the new york times" and an msnbcal analyst. let's get right into this "new york times" report about rudy giuliani and the 1/6 committee. why would giuliani cooperate? >> as you just heard, a fight on legal grounds can be expensive. he's already got legal challenges already. the dominion lawsuit, there are efforts to penalize giuliani and other lawyers who participated in these efforts to stop the election certification or recertify or uncertify elections back in the last part of the last administration. so he's got a lot of bills on the table. that may be part of it. we don't know for sure, since he's not telling us. this is a former u.s. attorney, this is a former justice department official as well as mayor of new york. there is an obligation to comply with subpoenas lawfully issued by the congress. and i think it's not a small thing to decide you're going to challenge that or to resist that if you spent your entire life as a lawyer, you know, sworn to uphold the law. >> but how high do you think the bar is, peter,

peter baker, chief white house correspondent for the new york times.anu raju, chief correspondent for cnn and seung min kim, white house reporter for the washington post. wiest -- we covered former president trump together. what are you hearing about the decision from former vice president mike pence to speak out now and what impact could his statements be given the state of the gop? seung: the impact will be something that we will be closely watching. as we've gotten further and further away from the january 6, 2021 attack, we seen so many in the republican party forget about the horrors of that day. and what precisely because the insurrection at the capital and what led up to it. pres. trump's clear lies about the election and continued lying that he won the presidential election when he did not. pence's -- comes an interesting time. when you did have been being more vocal and blatant about the potential actions he may take should he run again in 2024 and win. for example, by saying he would issue pardons for those charged and convicted alongside --

joining me tonight to discuss this and more are peter baker.hief white house corresponded for the new york times. david martin. national security correspond for cbs news. and ann simmons. moscow bureau chief for the wall street journal. thank you all for being here. what do we know about the latest about what's happening on the ground in ukraine, and also, what is vladimir putin hoping to achieve both in the short term and in the long term? >> well, it's clear there's an all-out assault on ukraine by russian forces. by land, by air, basie. -- by sea. mr. putin has made clear his end goal is basically regime change. he wants to take the ukrainian capital of kyiv. he wants to get rid of president zelinski. and he wants to install basically someone who would be more favorable to the kremlin. yamiche: you are talking about sort of him wanting to install someone and take over the democratically elected government there. quickly, briefly, also, when you think about the rationale behind this, how he wants to be viewed by the history books, take us beh

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chief white house correspondent for "the new york times," peter baker. congressional correspondent for "the washington post", jackie alemany joining us this morning. good to have you all. diving right into the news, two administration officials confirmed to nbc news the national archives and records administration has asked the justice department to examine if former president donald trump's handling of the white house records violated federal law. sources tell "the washington post" and "the new york times" the request came after the national archives discovered classified information may have been among the 15 boxes of white house records that should have been turned over at the end of the trump administration but were instead taken to mar-a-lago. officials tell nbc news this all is very preliminary, but if the justice department does investigate the former president for this the irony will be quite rich as trump relished hammering hilary clinton during the 2016 campaign over the classified material found on her private e-mail server. >> some bad things

and also peter baker. peter, the u.s. has released a lot of information about this alleged russian threat including intelligence about alleged fake video plot. it all seems so incredible. you've covered putin and russia for a long time. will releasing this information make a difference? >> i think that the idea is that we put out there that the united states knows that this is what they will do and it will damage any credibility that the false flag operation would have. look, this is -- russians are sort of the alex jones of world powers. they traffic in conspiracy theories, they believe conspiracies by the west that are farfetched and they promote them through these provocative actions. when they first seized crimea back in 2014, they pretended that those men in green suits were not russian troops when in fact of course they were. so this is all a normal practice out of moscow and i think what you are seeing here by the understand is a way of trying to call them on it in advance rather than after the fact trying to say t

peter baker, it's hard to not sea, geez, this any former president maxi driven this with -- i mean, younow we're so numb to this now with him, but my gosh, the world is about to confront maybe somebody who is a mad man right now. >> yeah, yeah. >> this is what the former president is doing? >> to sum up, he had critical words of biden, had critical words of democrats, had no critical words of for putin. it's just boggles the imagination at a time like this when you have -- yes, we shouldn't be surprised he showed administration and affection for putin all along, but when tanks are rolling across the border, to be praising him as a genius is pretty shock shockings. >> it's creating a new wing of the party. >> i know it's super tempting to talk about donald trump, because it's so great, and we all miss him so much. >> but in the middle of this nonsense? >> but joe biden is actually the president of the united states, and i actually would prefer to focus on the fact that this administration actually didn't do enough to prevent this, didn't present a very tough front who putin made clear wh

he knows exactly who you are and what you have done and how respected you are and that is why of peter bakerks to go see him he will probably say yes. he goes into the briefing room. i remember him calling on phil rucker one time during the first year. how if the world does not know him but we knew him from "washingtone post". but trump knew exactly who he was and not t only that he started to cite his story during "the new york times" story about staten island was good show but not even the president coming out to point fingers but that was a year ago. there is something there. a lot of the evolution but there isth something there. >> but. >> look. i know because had this but there is the notion of the media but there is a but what i will say just my own rule is with the mainstream on —- media over analyzing everything has a much different approach should covering donald trump now than in 2016. sometimes on cnn will cover theli trump speech gavel to gavel and they did not even do that at the campaign of 2016. they did early on that it was acknowledge that was a mistake. >> i think that's ri

joining us now is mike memoli, erin mclaughlin, and peter baker. r, let's start with since russia is now suggesting only the u.s. can make a deal with moscow, are there any plans for president biden to meet with him, to talk to him again? where does that put us, anyplace different than we really were before that conversation with macron? >> just a way of putin of course dissing his french counterpart who showed him the respect of coming to moscow and then got the back of the hand as a result of it. macron thought he was successful in at least freezing to allow for more negotiations but i don't hear anything at this point about president biden making another call to president putin. he's done that couple times already in the last month or so so it hasn't led to a breakthrough. at this point you have basically a waiting game with one man, that is vladimir putin, deciding what he is going to do. the west has already made it clear what it will do. putin knows that, he has factored that into his equation and everybody is guessing what his real intentions

who you are and he knows what you have done and he knows how respective you are and that's why peter bakerasked to go see him he's probably ragoing to say yes. he goes into the briefing room and i remember him calling on fellow rocker one time during his first year in phil rucker, now he's a superne megabest-selling author and we knew him before. trump knew exactly who he was and not only that he started citing a story you done during the new york primary. he said hey the story you did about the staten island ferry. still the idea of a president coming out and recounting a story from a year ago, so there isth something there. there is a lot of delusion that there is something there. >> judy squires asked, there's some thinking from analyst at the news media has not learned the lessons of 2016 and there is still a lot of false equivalency that helped trump in the gop echo. >> you know because we have had this discussion so many times one thing i reflexively dislike is the notion of the media as if it's the media. i mean there's "the new york times" there is politico in axios and breitbart a

in conversation with jonathan this afternoon would be another veteran white house reporter, peter baker of the "new york times." peter has authored several books himself on the presidencies of clinton, bush and obama and co-author to macbooks with his wife susan glasser who's now with the new yorker including one about the early years of vladimir putin's will and a biography last year of james baker. he and susan are currently working on their own book about the trump years. jonathan peter take it away. >> thank you very much for hosting this today, and thank you to lisa who is also working on a book, and can't wait to read that. anybody who doesn't know brad and alyssa are former colleagues of mine and my wife's of the "washington post" and, of course, all the best and most extraordinary bookstore in america, so we're so glad you have become such an important place for people to gather, talk about big books like john's here. john, i want stop icing for civil i love your book. "betrayal" is a great book. anybody who's watching the should buy it. buy for christmas, for your parents come

peter baker of the new york times. r's authored several books himself on the presidencies of clinton, bush and obama and co-authored two books with his wife, susan glaser, now with the new yorker, including the early years about vladimir putin's rule and a biography last year of jim bake r. >> they are enow writing a book. and take it away. >> thank you very much for hosting this today and thank you to alisa working on other hen book and i can't wait it read that. for anybody who doesn't know, brad and alisa are former colleagues of mine and my wife's at "the washington post" and of course, own the best and most extraordinary bookstore in america and we're so glad that you have become such an important place for people to gather, talk about big books like john karl's here. john, i want it start by saying i go first of all, anyone who is watching this should buy it, buy it for christmas, for your parents, uncles and aunts and love trump and buy it for people who hate trump. it's an important book. i want to ask you, john

joining me now is peter baker, and he spent four years as the moscow bureau chief for "the washington post," and along with the president of the zero media. we saw vladimir putin today with emmanuel macron, and they are seated far apart from each other, and the other day we saw putin travel to china and stand side by side with president xi, and am i reading too much into the optics? >> obviously, russia has been isolated on the world stage for a number of years and what it's trying to do is find a wedge between united states and it's allies in europe, and show some solidarity with china on the world stage. we have been writing stories about the potential china and russia alignment for years, and it often doesn't fulfill the hopes or fears that a lot of people attach to it, but you do see putin trying to basically out maneuver biden on the world stage. biden has the advantage of a 30-member alliance for all the tensions, and we see them today with schultz' visit here in washington, it's still pretty united in its position with regard to russian aggression against ukraine. if russia mov

with that, let's bring in our lead off guests on this wednesday night, peter baker, chief white house correspondent for the new york times, frank folk lucy, a former fbi director for intelligence, he is the author of the book the fbi, way and host of the podcast the bureau, and former u. s. attorney joyce vance, who spent 25 years as a federal prosecutor, she hosts the podcast sisters in law. so much to get to. frank, i don't know, maybe it is incomprehensible that classified documents are just wet, randomly put into 15 boxes trump took with him? or maybe not randomly. we do not know. and that the national archives is actually finding out about this a year after he left office? how big a deal do you think this is? >> yes, it is important to put this into proper perspective. i see a lot of folks out there particularly on social media getting really excited about the possibility of criminal charges. let's get this proper context, here. first of all, if indeed it is true that there is classified information in some of those boxes, that is good news for prosecutors, and for the possibilit

joining us chief foreign correspondent, richard engel, kelly o'donnell and peter baker. previously a moscow bureau chief at the time. you can certainly sense the urgency from the nato call today, secretary blinken overnight from australia saying it could happen before the olympics, at any time. tell us what's happening at the white house? the mood seems to be shifting to the inevitably of an invasion? >> reporter: well, certainly the tempo of activity related to ukraine and russia has increased. we know that last evening there was a situation room briefing on these issues with the national security team. we know that right now the president is scheduled to be involved in that phone conference with a wide array of nato leaders from europe but also a wider group of partners including, not only the european partners most closely involved like romania and poland and the european union officials and yan from nato. so, this is an opportunity for the president to be talking about what they have learned, which we understand includes the additional satellite imagery that they've

leanne caldwell joins us and peter baker with the "new york times" is back with me.about january 6th was what did jim jordan know? did he talk to the president? when did he talk to the president? he was vague. he said he couldn't recall. you just spoke to him and at least gave some new information that is now confirming what has been report in fact in the january 6th committee's records. >> reporter: yeah, chris. it seems like the committee has a pretty good outline what have happened on january 6th based on the white house sent from the national archives and it came out last week that jim jordan spoke with the former president on the morning of january 6th. now jim jordan had said previously he spoke with the president that day. he insinuated that it was in the afternoon. well, i just asked jim jordan about that phone call, and he said that he spoke to the president more than once, and so you can assume that he spoke on the morning which is what we reported last week and then also in the afternoon as well. so there were two separate phone calls that jim jordan had w

welker and cohost of "weekend today" and "the new york times" chief white house correspondent, peter bakerformer bureau chief for the "times." what are you hearing about what we can expect from the president? >> reporter: i am hearing the president is going to announce tough new sanctions. of course these sanctions would come on the heels of other sanctions he announced earlier this week which targeted oligarchs close to vladimir putin and this comes on the heels of the president meeting with his national security team this morning as well as his allies in the g 7. in fact, we're hearing from paris in the wake of that meeting, saying we call on all partners and members of the international community to condemn this attack in the strongest possible terms and to stand shoulder to shoulder with ukraine. the question at this hour, andrea, is just how stiff are these sanctions going to be? we know republicans and even some democrats are saying the president and the united states and its allies should impose the stiffest sanctions possible, including kicking russia out of the swift global bankin

. >> peter baker, thank you very much for joining us on this tragically historic night, we really appreciate it. and joining us now is kier simmons, nbc news senior international correspondent. he is in moscow, here simmons, what are you hearing in moscow? >> well lawrence, many russians will not have heard president putin's speech on television, it happened overnight. it's now just coming up to 7 am here in moscow. the streets are relatively quiet. no sign of any kind of reaction, if you like, from the russian people. i guess that is to be expected. on the contrast with those scenes we have been hearing about in kyiv, and other ukrainian cities. people will be waking up to read about the comments of their precedent, and to see them on russian television. and it was a long speech with many of the tropes that we have heard from president putin over the past two days, past few weeks. even the past few years. and he says in that speech that he has decided to conduct a military operation, and he says president putin of course, doesn't need to be said, so much of this is and president putin's min

"new york times" reporter peter baker tweeted his response to the story, quote, trump got elected innton for deleting emails that she deemed personal, and then spent four years destroying official documents despite federal law. >>> joining us now, one of the reporters who chronicled former president's habit of ripping up documents, the white house bureau chief of the "washington post" and msnbc analyst, ashley parker, good morning, thanks for joining us. great story. give us a sense, though, as to what the actual repercussions might be for violating the presidential records act and how it plays into the january 6th investigation. >> well, the repercussions are a great question, because it is a violation of the presidential records act, experts we talked to said it is against the law, but they also said that the law as currently written does not have particularly great enforcement mechanisms, and one person put it, it is toothless, and a bit like the hack jack, this is something that people tried not to violate, presidents did potentially tear out hundreds and hundreds of documents, b

. >> but can i ask you it was brought up by peter baker of the "new york times" with whom i had a conversationut an hour ago and he said he wonders why congress isn't looking at this to authorize -- you don't have to be all or none. it doesn't have to be let's put all the economic sanctions on the table versus none. i mean, there could be one or two that are put out there now. is that an option? >> well, all of the briefings that i have had there are a number of options that are on the table and the united states because of the steady leadership, because of intelligence, because we actually have adults guiding this process from the department of defense to the -- to the state department to our intelligence officials we are doing everything that we can to ensure that we prevent war, that we keep diplomatic options available and that it's used as the president said, as a deterrent to war. >> you know, you bring up the vice president because after she was inaugurated you said america needs to see leaders like vice president harris. how important in your mind was it to see her delivering america's

moderating the conversation is peter baker the chief white house correspondent for the new york times responsible for reporting on president biden the fifth president. he has covered. he's also the co-author most recently of the best-selling book the man who ran washington the life and times of james a baker the second along with susan placer. thank you again for joining us and now i will turn this event over to our speakers. hey everybody. thank you very much for joining us today. i'm very excited to be here with mark and matt and i'm excited you all are tuning in. this is a great opportunity to talk about this fantastic new book and as brittany just said these bookstores are all you know, these are your books stores guys. help support them because this is what is keeping, you know, great work like this alive and make sure you order one of these books back. you haven't already ordered again, maybe two or three. it's a great gift you should give it to your parents give it to your uncles and aunts. give it give to the member of your family who disagree with you politically because i'd