because i was going to be going up against phil donahue. everybody said-- phil who? phil who?- [audience laughs] [applause] so come on. yes, i was gonna be going up against phil donahue. and you know, it didn't matter to me. because i did not think that he was beatable. and i actually said it to my boss, dennis swanson, who has gone on to do great things in television. dennis swanson said, "we know you can't beat him. so don't worry about it. just be yourself." and that saved me, because h-had-- imagine little chubby me with a jheri curl. uh-- right. being told: "now you've got to go, and you've got to beat phil donahue." we were-- he said, "we're just a local show here. and so, if you can get a number, we'll take it." and-- so-- and so, i had no pressure. i had no pressure. so i just went on the air, and i was myself. so he openly left chicago and moved to new york because of the competition, i guess. i'm not sure. and ultimately, you were-- well, we beat-- i beat him, david. i did. right, right. [audience laughs] well, i-- i did beat him. i did. i wasn't trying to, i wasn't

. >> at the beginning of the decade, we get the dominance of phil donahue, and that is a maturation ofues and he seemed to talk to them in the audience and through the tv screen. >> i'm glad you called. kiss the kids. we'll be back in just a moment. >> if you look at the body of work we've had, you're going to see the '80s there. >> i'm not here to say you're wrong, but let's understand this. when you bring a moral judgment without knowing them, against them for the way that they look, they feel that confirms the reason for their rebellion, if that is what you want to call it. >> he really believed that daytime television needed to talk about the ideas we were thinking about, the issues we were concerned about. >> i don't want to characterize his question, but why don't you get this fixed instead of doing this screwy stuff? >> there is not a single recorded case in history of any transsexual that ever, through psychological treatment, changed. it has never happened yet. >> and we were putting very important people on the program. all kinds of people. gay people. people going to jail. p

would have been a poor or a bit of pain this was you know i'm sorry to go to concrete examples phil donahue who was once the number one talk show host in the u.s. was fired because he openly disagree with the iraq invasion that's case number one brian williams who was the n.b.c. anchor and lied. openly it was caught fort what is he doing now he's back at m s n b c anchoring the show on that point and we've run out of time for this segment of the program many thanks to my guests here in moscow and thanks to our viewers for watching us here or to see you next time and remember. years ago i traveled across the united states exploring america's deadly love affair with a gun if a bad guy tried to get to one of my family members he would have. my baby since my book was published in the year two thousand golden hall for a million americans have been killed by the us. this is a middle school we go through drills and we put ourselves in real scenarios it was interesting to see. him. to return to the subject to track down each gun owner who had met and photographed those years of god. but we are not.

or a bit of pain this was really a remarkable story and we're going to go to concrete examples phil donahue who was once the number one talk show host in the u.s. was fired because he openly disagreed with the iraq invasion that's case number one brian. williams who was the n.b.c. anchor and lied lied openly i was caught for it what is he doing now he's back at m s n b c anchoring the show on that point joining me live from run out of time for this segment of the program many thanks to my guests here in moscow and thanks to our viewers for watching us here or to see you next time and remember. about your sudden passing i've only just learned you worry yourself and taken your last wrong turn. up to you as we all knew it would i tell you i'm sorry i could so i write these last words in hopes to put to rest these things that i never got off my chest. i remember when we first met my life turned on each other. but then my feeling started to change you talked about war like it was a case still some are fond of you those that didn't like to question our ark and i secretly promised to never be like

he said with richard nixon he became friendly with nixon because he was on the phil donahue show and pat nixon saw trump and said, he is on the donahue show. then he got a letter from nixon that he shows people. saying, my wife said she never saw somebody as smart and great as you on tv, let's go out for a meal. they started dining regularly together. his reputation was in tatters. he was living in northern new jersey. donald trump in the 1980's was on covers of magazines. nixon was trying to a reach out, he was trying to get back in the game. they talked about reagan. it wasn't anything deeply illuminating. but we talked about inaugural speeches he had not prepared yet. he just kept saying i want to be short. i told him about william henry harrison going long and dying after one month. we talked about kennedy. it was an innocuous meeting. my take away is he had almost zero understanding of american history. he is a child of television and operates on that instinct. he's very visual. we now know how much he watches cable. that is his intellectual force. he may have a short attention

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he became friendly with nixon because he was on the phil trumpe show and nixon saw that is been a be a president of the united states on the donahue show. then he got a letter from nixon that he shows people. his wife never saw anybody as smart on tv. they started dining regularly together. nixon was trying to a reach out, he was trying to get back in the game. they talked about reagan. it wasn't anything deeply illuminating. but we talked about inaugural speeches he had not prepared yet. he just kept saying i want to be short. --alked about william harry william henry harrison and then dying after one month. we talked about kennedy. it was an innocuous meeting. almost away is he had zero understanding of american history. he is a child of cello vision and operates on that instinct. he's very visual. we now know how much he watches cable. that is his intellectual force. readdea that he would brands book, not going to happen. did he seem surprised that he had one? yes. he kept spinning this idea that there was voter fraud. that hillary did not really when by 3 million illegal people. i was a little startled that he was clinging to