i guess it's phil johnson who's a senior analyst at the international crisis group from new york. vanessa women is the founder and ceo of a symmetrical. that's a political risk research and strategic communications firm and from mary then venezuela pull dobson, who's an analyst at venezuela analysis, dot com. thanks for joining us on inside story. phil over to you 1st, the previous attempts at negotiations between the government and the opposition have failed. as you know, most recently in 2019. will these negotiations in mexico this month differ from the previous times? well i, i think it's fair to say that as you mentioned, the previous talks of failed. and in particular, when the opposition gave up on the tools very similar tools that were taking place in 2009 team. in september of that year, they declared this process facilitated by the norwegians was exalted. there was no further point, and in fact, they then turn to an attempted violence overthrown the government. so it's not clear why they think if indeed they do think this time around is likely to succeed . in fact, the opposition

stuff is doing well we're talking about costco, proctor and gamble, pepsi, johnson & johnson all doing well joby, you saw philth jfrp oby. they were oogling the take off and landing vehicle. tesla meets uber in the air. reid hoffman involved in that spac business. joby opened about 10%, opened at $11.20 a lot of talk about an ipo land. a lot of push back on prices we're in a quiet period in august always happens in august we didn't end well in the last couple of weeks. it fell apart. seven ipos were postponed. why? because the buyers didn't want to pay the price, they wanted lower price and guys offering it just walked way from the deals essentially. we saw price cuts, companies went public. but dole, weber cut their prices aftermarket is the day after it goes public. you usually get a first day pop in most poiz the question is what happens after that they have been terrible in the last few months losing 8%. the average cnbc buyer that buys an ipo on the first day of trading loses money. that's getting push back we have a whole bunch of companies out there. you see the renaissance ipo, main basket of ipos tha

>>> let's turn on that note -- before we turn to phil la bow, here's a look at how stocks are performing moderna is up 282% pfizer is up about 28% johnson johnson is only up about 10% and that's about half the gains we've seen for the whole s&p 500 so far >>> companies are pulling out all the stops to urge workers to get vaccinated delta airlines says it will charge employees who don't get the shot >> this is an interesting approach that delta is taking. we've seen this from airlines deciding how are they going to get more employees vaccinated. united said you've got to be vaccinated by a certain date, otherwise you lose your job. delta is saying if you're not vaccinated by november 1st, it will cost you. here is the mandate, if you will, from delta november 1st is the deadline unvaccinated workers will be hit with a surcharge, a monthly $200 surcharge on their health insurance if they are not vaccinated in announcing the new policy, ed bastian said the average hospital stay for covid-19 has cost delta $50,000 per person. this surcharge will be necessary to address the financial risk the decision to not vaccinate is creating for our com

reinforcements there, i knew that yesterday we had a guy who, phil, i know you've probably got some twitter, whenever we have gordon johnsonn we get all this -- >> oh, yeah. absolutely. >> feedback. he made the point that you made, he went over like five other times where there were, you know, upcoming developments that elon musk has talked about and gordon said it's 0 for 5, so why do you believe anything that comes out. that's a little harsh, obviously. >> right but he also suggested -- right he is suggesting, gordon was suggesting that elon musk is pretty much making this stuff up and trying to pull one over on people you had gene munster on afterwards and he said has he been 0 for 5 in some of the things they've promised in terms of when they would hit the deadline, yes, but they have made advancements in many areas in part because they have set these goals. you have to give elon musk and the team at tesla credit for that but in terms of if you listen to him and he says we're going to do this by this date, he's even said it in the past, joe, he has said look, i'm not that great with these expectations is what i would l

phil, at one point in your career, you were sent over to work over at the fbi. what goes through your mind hearing this latest statement from republican senator ron johnson?ace where the democrats attacked law enforcement and the military and we're attacked by the republicans for doing that, including after the vietnam war. now republicans attack law enforcement and villify the people protecting the congress. let me give you one fact from an intelligence officer. there is a small group of people in michigan, one state, a small group of people conspireing to attack the governor in a violent attack. that's obviously a crime. in washington, d.c., on january 6th and before january 6th, there were thousands of people converging to hear the president speak at a political rally. and you are telling me the intelligence about a small group is the same as the intelligence you might acquire about a political rally for a u.s. politician? you have got to be kidding me. ignorance is bliss. he doesn't know what he's talking about. >> we learned, very sadly, of this suicide of this police officer. you heard that emotional tribute from the police officer. how hard is it t