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for pier 80 to 96. in october of 2008, port staff with the area stake holders, presented for the preferred uses for the under utilized areas for the port commission and just to identify, on this map, (inaudible) this area is (inaudible) not fully occupied. and so back to presentations. so the area studies and particular holders, and port staff recommended additional industrial maritime activity at piers 80 and 96 and approvals and investigating the badge plant development. >> before displaying a proposed opportunities and improvements for the area, we want to provide some context on the existing area operations. and there are existing maritime and industrile tenants in piers area and on the screen the existing tenants generate approximately 629 jobs and approximately 8.6 million in annual rent revenue to the port. and additionally, signed leases with central resulted in 11 million dollars and new development at their leased areas. and there are some vacancies as mentioned and the occupancy between the p
for pier 80 to 96. in october of 2008, port staff with the area stake holders, presented for the preferred uses for the under utilized areas for the port commission and just to identify, on this map, (inaudible) this area is (inaudible) not fully occupied. and so back to presentations. so the area studies and particular holders, and port staff recommended additional industrial maritime activity at piers 80 and 96 and approvals and investigating the badge plant development. >> before...
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you want to increase the height limit for new building inspections on the pier 70 from 4 to 900 feety policy to clus include the job creations for to site if you vote no, not to increase the height limits or adapt the city policy i'm here where kelly pressor with the fair market value measure f and a property and the intellect to the coalition of san francisco neighborhood and a proponent of the measure thank you for being here he i'm to start with opening remarks kelly would you like to go first day f first. >> thank you very much fourteenth uh-huh tuntd to be here i support it and stand for the coalitions dmrug the form mayor and the essentially and the resident and associations to support measure f and create jobs and housing pier 70 is in an area along the waterfront where people have no access to water measure f will increased the access to the waterfront tearing down the fences that have blocked the access and open it up for parks that's why people have coverage and i did not think the essentially and the democratic and republicans and this for park advocates by coming out to t
you want to increase the height limit for new building inspections on the pier 70 from 4 to 900 feety policy to clus include the job creations for to site if you vote no, not to increase the height limits or adapt the city policy i'm here where kelly pressor with the fair market value measure f and a property and the intellect to the coalition of san francisco neighborhood and a proponent of the measure thank you for being here he i'm to start with opening remarks kelly would you like to go...
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our piers were pa fatally into the sea we had had pier 35 and the neighborhood associations came together with w working with the develops developers and the city staff and the board of supervisors we brought the best science perfume museum on the west coast piers 17 chp we brought the best sailing race last year with the
our piers were pa fatally into the sea we had had pier 35 and the neighborhood associations came together with w working with the develops developers and the city staff and the board of supervisors we brought the best science perfume museum on the west coast piers 17 chp we brought the best sailing race last year with the
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our piers were pa fatally into the sea we had had pier 35 and the neighborhood associations came together with w working with the develops developers and the city staff and the board of supervisors we brought the best science perfume museum on the west coast piers 17 chp we brought the best sailing race last year with the america's cup and used that to make sure we move forward legislation and a hundred million dollars of investment to build the best cruise ship term on the west coast we're seeing today we need to establish the grand entrances from the world we have san francisco airport when the folks get off the plane that's their view into the port and not only just so a green this we're going to be hanging out with our families and kids and let me take a moment to thank all the folks can we give it up for the men and women of labor that helped to build it this building (clapping) and, of course, the men and women of you l y u to make sure we're bringing in millions of san franciscans thank you. i l y u (clapping) let me close with one minimal of no foundation men and women coming off
our piers were pa fatally into the sea we had had pier 35 and the neighborhood associations came together with w working with the develops developers and the city staff and the board of supervisors we brought the best science perfume museum on the west coast piers 17 chp we brought the best sailing race last year with the america's cup and used that to make sure we move forward legislation and a hundred million dollars of investment to build the best cruise ship term on the west coast we're...
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you want to increase the height limit for new building inspections on the pier 70 from 4 to 900 feet and ugly are courage the environmental review and make that city policy to clus include the job creations for to site if you vote no, not to increase the height limits or adapt the city policy i'm here where kelly pressor with the fair market value measure f and a property and the intellect to the coalition of san francisco neighborhood and a proponent of the measure thank you for being here he i'm to start with opening remarks kelly would you like to go first day f first. >> thank you very much fourteenth uh-huh tuntd to be here i support it and stand for the coalitions dmrug the form mayor and the essentially and the resident and associations to support measure f and create jobs and housing pier 70 is in an area along the waterfront where people have no access to water measure f will increased the access to the waterfront tearing down the fences that have blocked the access and open it up for parks that's why people have coverage and i did not think the essentially and the democrati
you want to increase the height limit for new building inspections on the pier 70 from 4 to 900 feet and ugly are courage the environmental review and make that city policy to clus include the job creations for to site if you vote no, not to increase the height limits or adapt the city policy i'm here where kelly pressor with the fair market value measure f and a property and the intellect to the coalition of san francisco neighborhood and a proponent of the measure thank you for being here he...
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i got to pier 70, a neighbor was driving me around, otherwise it would have taken me fover to get all this done. so i got to the front gate and i was walking with a cane and they said, well, you have to go down to the administrative thing which was a quarter of a mile in on pier 70, so i walked down to it and then they finally brought the car out. then i found out that whoever had stolen it had broken off the key in the ignition so i couldn't drive it so i had to have it towed again. the reception was so bad at pier 70 that i had to go back to the entrance in order to call triple a. they would not allow triple a into pier 70 without me being in the tow truck with them as if there was something to steal. so then we towed the car to my mechanic, which was two blocks away from where the car was stolen, okay? then i had the, saw the information they gave me at auto return and i called the numb to appeal at the police department appeal on the first floor and, by the way, it was, the written stuff from auto return was contradictory with the number that you call. so i went down there. i was
i got to pier 70, a neighbor was driving me around, otherwise it would have taken me fover to get all this done. so i got to the front gate and i was walking with a cane and they said, well, you have to go down to the administrative thing which was a quarter of a mile in on pier 70, so i walked down to it and then they finally brought the car out. then i found out that whoever had stolen it had broken off the key in the ignition so i couldn't drive it so i had to have it towed again. the...
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the reception was so bad at pier 70 that i had to go back to the entrance in order to call triple a. they would not allow triple a into pier 70 without me being in the tow truck with them as if there was something to steal. so then we towed the car to my mechanic, which was two blocks away from where the car was stolen, okay? then i had the, saw the information they gave me at auto return and i called the numb to appeal at the police department appeal on the first floor and, by the way, it was, the written stuff from auto return was contradictory with the number that you call. so i went down there. i was waiting and waiting, i found out one guy had won an appeal from the year before and he was down there to find out what was going on and they had lost his file. >> mr. howell, can you wrap up, please? your time has expired. >> i basically went through the whole process and i was denied the appeal. i was charged the tow, i was charged the storage, as far as i remember. it was several hundred dollars, plus i had to have the car repaired. so all in all it was like a totally negative expe
the reception was so bad at pier 70 that i had to go back to the entrance in order to call triple a. they would not allow triple a into pier 70 without me being in the tow truck with them as if there was something to steal. so then we towed the car to my mechanic, which was two blocks away from where the car was stolen, okay? then i had the, saw the information they gave me at auto return and i called the numb to appeal at the police department appeal on the first floor and, by the way, it was,...
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great so supervisor cohen we have the ports jurisdiction running from fisherman's wharf down to pier 96 the area we're talking about today is really the area shown in the white circle at the bottom of the slide pier 80 through 96 marine terminals i'll describe in a little bit more detail the port as diverse maritime lines in the southern waterfront we're handling bulk cargos at the auto piers 9 it through 96 terminals primarily focused around sand from the bay and aggregates men sent to patching companies located on the ports property part of a maritime and eco context we are developing we've introduced heads park and the wetlands and the city's recycle in the area we try to correlate businesses that used truck trips and the minimumtion of pollution in the area so the opportunity that we are currently considering for this area is an iron ore terminal a clean operation different from the petco oil terminals that the resolution is concerned with and we'll show that in a moment so first about cool supervisor cowen mentioned a fight over the cool environmentalists have been making sure t
great so supervisor cohen we have the ports jurisdiction running from fisherman's wharf down to pier 96 the area we're talking about today is really the area shown in the white circle at the bottom of the slide pier 80 through 96 marine terminals i'll describe in a little bit more detail the port as diverse maritime lines in the southern waterfront we're handling bulk cargos at the auto piers 9 it through 96 terminals primarily focused around sand from the bay and aggregates men sent to...
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the proposition only permanence to pier 70 no other waterfronts on san francisco pier 70 plan has come out with many, many years of community input and outreach and measure f is really an additional step in the possess the ballot measure itself is very clear that the environmental review process sequa as well as the mr. larkin process are not shorthand or limited are subject gaited there will be a thorough study this is an additional check in with 9 county and stakeholders to make sure that folks feel good about what's happening on the pier and good reviews see for the years to come. >> tanner's. >> the reason for measure f they want to wave the height limits the city chapter was amended where they have the height limits that are binding and have to be waved by public vote that's the problem in terms of a public waiver is needed to build higher than the buildings and one of the problems is this is earthquake country we have seismic problems and the 1906 san francisco earthquake the 1489 earthquake in mri yet and so on as a result, the more high-rise we have the more dangerous for the p
the proposition only permanence to pier 70 no other waterfronts on san francisco pier 70 plan has come out with many, many years of community input and outreach and measure f is really an additional step in the possess the ballot measure itself is very clear that the environmental review process sequa as well as the mr. larkin process are not shorthand or limited are subject gaited there will be a thorough study this is an additional check in with 9 county and stakeholders to make sure that...
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going to catch up with piers morgan in our studio. wow! the reaction on my twitter. >> i'm sensing praise? >> there were some people who said good. love him. welcome back. but then there were people, piers, who came in and the anger was palpable in their tweets. and the feeling i got from it was, especially when it was like the gun issue was how dare this outsider have such a critical eye on the united states. am i close? >> yes. and i totally respect that. and i understand that having someone like jay leno, a good mutual friend of ours said to me, it's like you're going to germany and telling them they can't speed on the audobon. they may know it's dangerous but they don't want to hear it from you and they don't want to hear it in your accent. >> somebody else could have gone on the air and said what you said and gotten away with it or not had the same negative impact? >> i wish more american news media, news anchors stood up. so many of them privately said to me i love what you're doing.
going to catch up with piers morgan in our studio. wow! the reaction on my twitter. >> i'm sensing praise? >> there were some people who said good. love him. welcome back. but then there were people, piers, who came in and the anger was palpable in their tweets. and the feeling i got from it was, especially when it was like the gun issue was how dare this outsider have such a critical eye on the united states. am i close? >> yes. and i totally respect that. and i understand...
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it's a costly and complex process, including digging new piers many feet under the ground.s so expensive that many can't afford to even start it. >> so this pier actually went down 96 feet. >> reporter: randy brown is not unlike most of his neighbors and hundreds of others in napa that have significant property damage after the earthquake. in brown's case, the repairs to his 19-year-old house will likely run about $150,000. like 90% of the victims here, brown has no earthquake insurance. >> you know what the guys are doing now is just kind of getting us back to ground zero on the height of the house because we have to lift the foundation back up. >> reporter: that involves inserting new piers into the ground, in some cases more than 90 feet down. and then trying to raise the structure with hydraulic jacks. brown is among 1,000 private property owners in napa still waiting for fema to determine whether they are eligible for individual assistance. that assistance could include grants or low interest loans. >> this is actually putting in a new pier underneath the house. >> rep
it's a costly and complex process, including digging new piers many feet under the ground.s so expensive that many can't afford to even start it. >> so this pier actually went down 96 feet. >> reporter: randy brown is not unlike most of his neighbors and hundreds of others in napa that have significant property damage after the earthquake. in brown's case, the repairs to his 19-year-old house will likely run about $150,000. like 90% of the victims here, brown has no earthquake...
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we go to pier 70, which remain trapped in time unless voters come to the rescue. ♪ >> it's got a realrittiness and a rawness to it. all built for shipbuilding, ship repair. >> reporter: the lonely rusting buildings of san francisco's southeastern waterfront, vestiges of the city's maritime past. >> during the war effort, there were over 18,000 people a day working. >> reporter: at pier 70, 90 acres of industrial purgatory. buildings built as early as the 1880s sit like a giant iron wall. >> today, it sits empty and there is no public access. >> reporter: the change has now set its sights on this forgotten neighborhood after decades of little use. several projects are ticking off to bring these buildings back to the living. on one 28 parcel, there's plans to restore buildings for housing, a new studio for art t artis artists, space for local manufacturing, and converting a parking lot into a water park. >> i think this area will become a gem along san francisco's waterfront. >> reporter: a gem, but with some rough edges. >> some of the rustiness and the metals that are used, the idea i
we go to pier 70, which remain trapped in time unless voters come to the rescue. ♪ >> it's got a realrittiness and a rawness to it. all built for shipbuilding, ship repair. >> reporter: the lonely rusting buildings of san francisco's southeastern waterfront, vestiges of the city's maritime past. >> during the war effort, there were over 18,000 people a day working. >> reporter: at pier 70, 90 acres of industrial purgatory. buildings built as early as the 1880s sit like...
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one in the pier 80. and what i am focusing here is the metro court, leases that area, 69 acres, this whole area, between 92 and 96, is 65 percent leased and it does include, the industrial buildings that are almost 100 percent displayed by the real estate and they have the vacant areas and we have the back lands area and you have the asphalt area and the iron ore terminal area which is not used to the capacity. >> and so, we have a chunk of area that not used. >> thank you. >> and about 30 percent let's. >> about 30 acres. and 30 acres are available. >> so that area that we are talking about there, is that the landfill or is it the below sea level or what? why, why do we, or would we have to give piles in order to have storage. >> i have never been out there and that is why i am asking. >> and so it is on the landfill, and it is uneven terrain, and so if we built anything, there, it would, the foundation would be unsettled and continue to settle and no one will want to build there without having a strong
one in the pier 80. and what i am focusing here is the metro court, leases that area, 69 acres, this whole area, between 92 and 96, is 65 percent leased and it does include, the industrial buildings that are almost 100 percent displayed by the real estate and they have the vacant areas and we have the back lands area and you have the asphalt area and the iron ore terminal area which is not used to the capacity. >> and so, we have a chunk of area that not used. >> thank you. >>...
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and pier 96? >> pier 96 will hopefully be part of a new break bulk facility. like i said, we will look at that portion of the waterfront in the future, but it does not have the immediate earthquake risk associated with the northern waterfront seawall. >> thank you. >> thank you. any other questions? seeing none, all in favor? >> aye. >> opposed? that motion carries. thank you. >> thank you. >> item 12 a, request authorization to seek california state lands commission approval to terminate the public trust over daggett street pursuant to sb 815 (senator migden; 2007). >> good afternoon, president katz, members of the commission. [speaker not understood] benson, special projects director here with robin havens, project manager from the office of economic and workforce development, and steve [speaker not understood] from the planning department. to talk about daggett street ~. daggett street is one of a number of very strange parcels of land that were conveyed from the state of california to the port, the burton act and the transfer agreement. this happens to lie
and pier 96? >> pier 96 will hopefully be part of a new break bulk facility. like i said, we will look at that portion of the waterfront in the future, but it does not have the immediate earthquake risk associated with the northern waterfront seawall. >> thank you. >> thank you. any other questions? seeing none, all in favor? >> aye. >> opposed? that motion carries. thank you. >> thank you. >> item 12 a, request authorization to seek california state...
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they responded, they found the body behind pier 52. police were the first to respond, but they were on the other side of the pier, so they couldn't see the wreckage, nor the body. firefighters on a boat did see everything and took the body back to a fire station, but there are so many questions still about what led up to all this. for the last few hours, san francisco police marine units have been using sonar in the water to make sure there's no one else who might have been on the boat that crashed. san francisco police say there were two boats out here, a witness apparently from the second boat told firefighters he saw the driver slumped over the wheel of the makeshift plywood boat going full throttle into the pier. that witness told investigators he had tried to get in the water, save the person, but couldn't get to him, so he was treated for hypothermia. san francisco fire officials say the story seems suspect, and police are now handling this investigation. we spoke with a member of the bay view boat club, which is right near the s
they responded, they found the body behind pier 52. police were the first to respond, but they were on the other side of the pier, so they couldn't see the wreckage, nor the body. firefighters on a boat did see everything and took the body back to a fire station, but there are so many questions still about what led up to all this. for the last few hours, san francisco police marine units have been using sonar in the water to make sure there's no one else who might have been on the boat that...
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the policy committee remember when we had the conversation there was talk about a new facility and pier 96 that the peer is looking to build a cargo terminal and it was praised from the sierra club and the grant institute asked the skew is this a facility that can one day have the materials they need someplace to go to port thanks to the ports leadership the port has said no to coal and started a policy committee and excited to share yesterday's at the board of supervisors the conversation has elevated to establishing san francisco and really this particular site this new facility at pier 96 at health department can be potentially with a little bit more work that director reaping he will will lay out we're poised to be thanks to a hearing by supervisor malia cohen a resolution that passed sponsoring from supervisor avalos and supervisor wiener yesterday supported the port and sf environment to make pier 96 the first facility in the country that makes export of those dirty polluting follows i will fuel make export of those materials prohibited at those facilities that is amazing and you'
the policy committee remember when we had the conversation there was talk about a new facility and pier 96 that the peer is looking to build a cargo terminal and it was praised from the sierra club and the grant institute asked the skew is this a facility that can one day have the materials they need someplace to go to port thanks to the ports leadership the port has said no to coal and started a policy committee and excited to share yesterday's at the board of supervisors the conversation has...
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a blue and gold fleet ferry called the "peralta" hit the side of the pier. late sunday afternoon. the coast guard says 10 people were hurt. most of them with neck and head injuries. the accident caused some damage to the boat. the cause of the accident is under investigation. insurance companies are spending millions of dollars trying to mislead you about the effects of proposition 46. well here's the truth: 46 will save lives. it will save money too. i'm bob pack, and i'm fighting for prop 46 because s and i don't want anyone else to lose theirs. the three provisions in 46 will reduce medical errors and protect patients. save money and save lives. yes on 46. walked in to a mcdonald's and discovereden an extraordinary burger with heaps of jalapeños... ...for only two dollars. within minutes, they had also discovered the phenomenon of "economnomnomics" nomnom... nom? nom nom the jalapeño double, try it now for just $2 on mcdonald's dollar menu and more. it's economnomnomcial. ♪ nom...nom...nom... extra curricular activities help provide a sense of identity and a path to success. jo
a blue and gold fleet ferry called the "peralta" hit the side of the pier. late sunday afternoon. the coast guard says 10 people were hurt. most of them with neck and head injuries. the accident caused some damage to the boat. the cause of the accident is under investigation. insurance companies are spending millions of dollars trying to mislead you about the effects of proposition 46. well here's the truth: 46 will save lives. it will save money too. i'm bob pack, and i'm fighting...
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>> i don't believe, or none of our, and this pier 52 is a place for a water landing and there is a park there, and the other parks currently are not designed to accommodate the water taxis. >> and it seems like for the long way around to the end, there would be no water transportation. >> and that has ever been a consideration? >> are you talking about within the hunter's point shipyard? >> yeah. >> and that is outside of our jurisdiction, and i believe that they may be considering some form of water taxi or landings down the road. and but there will be human powered boating access and you can bring your dogs and your kayak and then petal around. >> it will be nice to take a taxi from pier 39 and see that part of the town. >> that will be very nice. >> and thank you very much. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> the next item please? >> 8 b. informational presentation on city and county of san francisco civil grand jury 13-14 report port of san francisco caught between public trust and private dollars and port response there to. >> >> good afternoon, commissioners, and brad benson again. and
>> i don't believe, or none of our, and this pier 52 is a place for a water landing and there is a park there, and the other parks currently are not designed to accommodate the water taxis. >> and it seems like for the long way around to the end, there would be no water transportation. >> and that has ever been a consideration? >> are you talking about within the hunter's point shipyard? >> yeah. >> and that is outside of our jurisdiction, and i believe that...
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the body has been taken to another pier along the waterfront.moriarty arrived a short time ago. what have you learned? >> reporter: we know that fire crews pulled the body out of the water about two hours ago. you can see that this location is actually very close to the bay bridge here. the body was found at pier 52 south of the ballpark at 6:15 this morning and sources within the fire department tell us that someone called reporting a boat circling in the bay and then when crews arrived, they discovered pieces of smashed boat, a blanket and a floatation cushion and the body. sources say it appears that the victim was most likely down and unconscious before the boat crashed into the pier. we know that the man is in his 50s. he's from san francisco. and the coroner should be here any minute. and then, of course, we'll be waiting for them to notify family to try to figure out the identity on this victim. we're live in san francisco, i'm tara moriarty, ktvu channel 2 news. >>> san francisco police are busy investigating last night's deadly police s
the body has been taken to another pier along the waterfront.moriarty arrived a short time ago. what have you learned? >> reporter: we know that fire crews pulled the body out of the water about two hours ago. you can see that this location is actually very close to the bay bridge here. the body was found at pier 52 south of the ballpark at 6:15 this morning and sources within the fire department tell us that someone called reporting a boat circling in the bay and then when crews arrived,...
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and in the pier lot, and the south pier and had the development and there is controversy in both areas and at the commission's direction, the subarea planning effort and in those areas and coupled, and how the port is responding to the sea levels. >> and so, there were a number of other recommendations that i am not going to go into each of them, but i do list them here. and if the commission has any question about the staff response to any one of these, we will be happy to answer, and but mostly we want wanted to appreciate the work of the civil grand jury and all of the time and effort put in to understanding the port and we took the recommendations in the spirit that they were offered. >> okay. >> i have i am not sure if he is still here, john, i can't read it... >> temple ton. >> good afternoon, i have provided a written response that i will divert with that from the time that i have to actually touch on a number of things that have come up today, and as you probably recall, i did the freedom trail and i did the statement and asked them for the history throughout the city, and also
and in the pier lot, and the south pier and had the development and there is controversy in both areas and at the commission's direction, the subarea planning effort and in those areas and coupled, and how the port is responding to the sea levels. >> and so, there were a number of other recommendations that i am not going to go into each of them, but i do list them here. and if the commission has any question about the staff response to any one of these, we will be happy to answer, and...
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san francisco was not about to be left out stop talking randy so (laughter) so in the 19 hundreds pier 35 was on the docket by the port of commissioners it was ahead of its time built a handle category you all remember category was very man powder and came over the lines and shoulder and meant to handle passengers it was built criminally because it has lots of of 96 long years imagine the vision and crafted manship we're blessed our for fathers thought of that but it's time to have an r another republican is an we've built this magnificent facility 9 james r herman facility and we hope it will be a symbol of all we staples for historically and prospectively i want to thank you all for coming here and it is a huge task but we've done it and glad to do celebrate to get everything going i'd like to introduce a man who was dedicated his life to public certify and made it his job to stairway the connective stability which our city to make sure it is viability for both our neighborhoods and waterfront and our communities and has made jobs a very, very big emphasis please welcome mayor ed lee
san francisco was not about to be left out stop talking randy so (laughter) so in the 19 hundreds pier 35 was on the docket by the port of commissioners it was ahead of its time built a handle category you all remember category was very man powder and came over the lines and shoulder and meant to handle passengers it was built criminally because it has lots of of 96 long years imagine the vision and crafted manship we're blessed our for fathers thought of that but it's time to have an r another...