they hand out the pinocchio. that is keogh.y gave president obama and more cuteness and he can stand. they gave him for pinocchio for lying about the fact he called benghazi after terrorism the day after it happened. those for pinocchio should have come before election day but better late than never and congressman from michigan the chairman of house ways and means committee is taking the lead on the irs target of conservative groups treating the enemies list. he will be holding a hearing on friday demanding all internal communications from the irs by tomorrow. now the truce from attorney gerald eric colder he recuse himself from the decision to subpoena the phone records of reporters and editors of the associated press but he did make a point* to say the justice department would never ever do anything scandalous. >> i am not familiar with all that went into the formulation of the subpoena and i was recused but i am confident the people who are involved in this investigation who might have worked with i file all of the justice

the pinocchios keep coming for the obama administration officials. washington post fact checker, just two pinocchios today for mr. obama aaarded to attorney general eric holder that a single u.s. attorney in the justice department ma his own decision not to prosecute him for contempt of congress last year. in fact, holder's deputy had written that attorney to tell him the justice department determined holder's wis holding of fast and furious documents did not constitute a crim before the attorney made his decision. just two pinocchios for that. you would have thought maybe a few more, huh? we'll be right back. the outgoing head of the internal revenue service mired in scandal says it's a misunderstanding. it was just poor customer service. that's what he said. we'll find out what the a-te has to say. it's getting worse nearly every day. the obama administrati now blames its scandals on budget cuts. we'll take a hard look at those numbers in tonight's "chalk talk." ♪ grew up in a small town and when the rain would fall down ♪ ♪ i'd just stare out my w

now unfortunately for him even the "washington post" gave that claim four pinocchios and used his wordsove him wrong. here's why. day after the attack, which happened to be one day removed from the anniversary of 9/11, president obama merely claimed acts of terror would not be tolerated. he never called benghazi an act of terrorism. is and that's not all. as the "post" points out. he was repeatedly given opportunities in the days after that to do the right thing, and he didn't. watch. >> mr. president, this morning you went out of your way to avoid the use of the word terrorism in connection with the libya attack. >> right. >> do you believe this was a terrorist attack? >> it's too early to know exactly how this came about, what group was involved. but obviously it was an attack on americans. >> then i heard hillary clinton say it was an act of terrorism. is it? what do you say? >> we are still doing an investigation. >> all right. joining me now to respond to the former defense secretary donald rumsfeld. his new book hit bookshelves today. mr. secretary, good to see you. i love the boo

up next the washington post giving out a pinocchio but we give up the dunce cap to the lucky recipients to mess it up. we have that tonight lou: "the washington post" fact check does a great job by the way and hands out pinocchio from politicians to don't tell the truth and in this broadcast week about a dunce cap the first will be so that on jay carney. he is working hard and sa during aecent whi house press briefing, this. ambaador rice talked abt the possibility of kite might be involved. also for now al qaeda tat there is n effort to play that down. >> ambassador rice went on five sunday morning talk shows on september 16th of last year and said the words al qaeda in this is what she said. whether al qaeda affiliate's for libyan based extremist or al qaeda itself it was after what she said happened in benghazi was a ptest of cairo over the amateur and timeuslim vide we have a little problem we don't have enough done scabs to give him another then we have oba who said the facts behind the benghazi terrorist attack of them thoroughly, thoroughly investigated. >> but i pledge to the am

lou: there are more pinocchio around at "the washington post" with his administration.nundated with them. barbara boxer claims the g.o.p. budget hampered benghazi security knowing full well it was a string of republican and democratic decisions to not hit the full number on security deficits. this is outrageous and senator menendez says we know about benghazi? somebody will puke out there outrageous conduct. [laughter] >> no vomit here in washington d.c. tonight studio number four. lou: maybe you are tougher. >> we have been marinating longer but to your point* the president today was so careful with the artfully crafted all of his theaters were artfully crafted and careful not to blame funding for the attackkin benghazi but mentioning funding a rounded to create the inference. boxer was less careful and when you ask about the ira'she ? he did not answer the question so he was very legalistic. lou: this is moving from a crisis of confidence, it seems to me, directly to a constitutional crisis. this president has lost his credibility. it has been shredded. where are we h

up next the washington post giving out a pinocchio but we give up the dunce cap to the lucky recipients to mess it up. we have that tonight on the "chalk talk." at od, whatever business youe , that's the business we're in with premium service like one of the best on-time delivery records and a low claims ratio, we do whatever it takes to make your business our business. od. helping the worldkeep . how old is the oldest person you've known? we gave people a sticker and had them show us. we learned a lot of us have known someone who's lived well into their 90s. and that's a great thing. but even though we're living longer, one thing that hasn't changed much is the official retirement age. ♪ the queion is how do you make sure you have the money you need to enjoy all othese years. ♪ lou: "the washington post" fact checker does a great job by the way and hands out pinocchio from politicians to don't tell the truth and in this broadcast week about a dunce cap the first will be so that on jay carney. he is working hard and said during a recent white house press briefing, this. ambassador rice

they aually callthat bushel of pinocchio's for the obama administration.hey cannot keep up with the obama spend machine. in overdrive over the weekend and certainly is today. we will beocusing on how the administration is trying to conflate, the flight, distract in an effort to take the immediate focus away from the scandals. it is obviously not working, an we wi be focusing on it, if you will -- well, like a laser and relentlessly. gerri: as you always do. >> and i will be talking with farmers -- former senor and a member of the foreign affairs committee, talking about precisely the scandal and, of course, we will be renewed the very latest from oklahoma,this devastating, gut-wrenching vide that we are all watching right now. a lot of people there are in deep trouble, and we're going t have a very latest for you, of course, onhis developing story . gerri: we will watch for you in less than 30 minutes. thank you for coming out tonight . good to see u. >> thankou. gerr well, there is no distortion of thepump. gas prices rising. finally down fm last year. ba

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they gave her not only four pinocchios but a bushel of pinocchios because she has been a serial liar,this is a huge problem for her. while she said in her testimony in congress that the fifth amendment exists so that innocent people can protect themselves, i think that's not in fact why she used it this time. >> shannon: julie. >> lois lerner doesn't have a lot of defenders right now. the question is what happens to her job? she was asked to resign and said no. so, i think she is on administrative leave right now. >> shannon: with pay. >> with pay. the longer she stays in this situation of limbo the harder it's going to be for the white house and for the irs to try to move forward to try to show that they are taking steps to correct this problem when you have this woman who is so central to this issue still being paid. >> shannon: apparently going to appear again or maybe be called to appear again on the hill. >> i'm not sure there is any water that will come out of that rock. i don't think she is going to say a word. might be a nice spectacle. i think this there is one other myth out

some ask why four pinocchios? i think the true answer is because they never give five pinocchios. maybe they do, but you get the point. and of course we cannot escape the fact, and we should not ignore the fact that this attack took four american lives. then we learned this last week that a senior i.r.s. official had acknowledged that her agency deliberately targeted certain political speech and activity for harassment. using the instruments of power given to the internal revenue service, perhaps the most awesome, pervasive and potentially intrusive power the federal government has, in the hands of that agency. interestingly, the white house counsel said she learned about it in april. the president said he didn't learn about it until later. an investigation needs to be undertaken, and i'm happy that senator max baucus, chairman of the senate finance committee and senator orrin hatch, the ranking member of the finance committee, have committed themselves to doing an investigation of the i.r.s. and how this could possibly happen. on top of all that, the top administrator of health a

two pinocchios, four is the max you can be. she gave her four pinocchio awards.hich checks the quotes of people to see whether they're valid or not said that every single quote that they checked for michele bachmann turned out to be false. there was not one thing she said that they found to be true, not one. no other politician has shared that same distinction as michele bachmann. >> so on that hand, i'm almost kind of impressed that nobody else shares that distinction. >> bill: she is certainly unique. we know some of our -- some of our favorite michele bachmann moment when she went to new hampshire and congratulated the people of new hampshire. >> shot heard around the world. >> bill: no, that was in massachusetts. that was not in new hampshire. that was her first foray as a presidential candidate. >> bill: we remember how she greeted michael steele. >> michael steele, you be the man. you be the man. >> you be the man. >> bill: probably the wackiest person ever to serve in the congress. here's what a lot of people don't realize also is that she accomplished abs

or four pinocchios but a bushel of pinocchios because she hear a serial liar, i think.s is a huge problem for her. while she said in her testimony in congress that the fifth amendment exists so that innocent people can protect themselves, i think that's not in fact why she used it this time. >> we'll have much more on the irs scandal with a couple of guests on the show this morning as that unfolds. >> anna: 6 minutes after the top of the hour. get to the headlines. days after tornado devastated parts of oklahoma. we are now hearing desperate calls for help moments after the storm passed. >> we have a day care full of babies. we need help bad. >> okay. we need help bad. we have a day care that just got cremated. >> anna: screams and crying can be heard. rubble. others describe entire neighborhoods wiped out. ef-5 tornado cut a 17-mile path killing 24 people. frightening moments after two british men threatened to blow up a packed plane mid flight. both are now under arrest. british fighter jets intercepted the pakistan international airlines yesterday diverting it to an

president of the united states according to the "post" fact checker glenn kesseler, he had four pinocchios. he did not tell the american people the truth then, in a presidential debate and for repeated appearances for two weeks. bill: you are not saying he lied. you are not using that word. >> i have never used that word, bill, because it -- he is the president of the united states. i will say that it's clear that he did not tell the american people the truth about his comments concerning this death of four americans taint was during a presidential campaign. you have got to remember it was part of the presidential narrative about al qaeda is on the run, bin laden is dead, not to worry. bill: senator, thank you for your time. john mccain from the hill. martha: was it james blond, this u.s. diplomat detained in russia wearing a disguise and accused of spying? we have the latest developments on what could be a developing spy scandal. >> we can confirm he was detained and released. [ male announcer ] eligible for medicare? that's a good thing, but it doesn't cover everything. only about 80% of

the press gave obama a pass on benghazi for seven months, yeah, they get four pinocchios but seven months after the facts haven't changes. press is connected because they are outraged because they were targeted. that is only reason they are all united now. >> eric: it's interesting it's never president obama's fault. benghazi wasn't their fault. solyndra wasn't his fault. irs is not going to be his fault. >> bob: president of united states that they ordered it? >> eric: i'm suggesting that the president knew about all these things. >> bob: that is very serious allegation. >> it goes back to my point. he is unfit and incapable of managing and maybe inexperienced. >> eric: why would the irs purposely go after conservative groups. >> bob: i guess there were liberals in the organizatio >> eric: because they wanted the accolades of finding out information on conservatives. >> bob: i would need to suggest this is something obama ordered happened is a very serious allegation. >> eric: that is not what i said. i think, my guess, i didn't say he ordered. he may in some way shame or form to be awar

in the "washington post" gave him three pinocchio's for that one. he calls us liars? the biggest whopper of all is that 90% of americans support his background checks bill. the media can't rant and rave about anything else. 90% of americans don't want criminals and the mentally ill to get their hands on guns. i don't know what kind of polling they do down at the white house, but i do know this. when it comes to keeping guns out of the hands of violent criminals in the mentally deranged, nra members agree 100%. [applause] but mr. president, the bill you backed would not accomplish that goal. your bill, the bill you ordered was simply a maze of regulations that could criminalize lawful firearms transactions. and create potentially create, a massive government list of every law-abiding gun owner in the united states of america. the schumer bill you first supported, and you still support. it would create a database of every gun owner in america. the manchin-toomey bill you later backed would not have presented tucson, aurora, and won't prevent the next tragedy. can preten

as a result some of the washington post is giving secretary john kerry three pinocchios.general's charm offensive backfired as major media organizations boycott is being with the press. the "a-team" tells us -- tells us if it is finally time for eric holder to go. do they or don't they? serious as they now have russian weapons systems. the u.s. says they don't. national-security experts analyze the deteriorating situation in syria next. ♪ lori: syrian dictator bashar al-assad making some shocking plans today regarding the russian support for his war effort. u.s. officials, however claimed that assad is simply lying. fox these national security correspondent jennifer griffin with our support. >> reporter: when asked by the3 hezbollah television interviewer whether russians had delivered a controversial arms shipments that the u.s. has described as a potential game changer, syrian president bashar al-assad hinted that a shipment of the s300 anti-aircraft missile system was on its way, and parts of it had already arrived. [speaking in native tongue] >> translator: agreement

and gave up four pinocchios. i called it a lie. it is. it is transparently a lie. >> bill: why do you think then the president is putting his reputation on the line. >> i don't know. >> and people like you in the "the washington post" who support the president, why do you think he is doing that? you must have some thought about it. there has got to be a reason the man is putting his whole reputation on the line here. >> i don't know if he he doesn't remember what he he said but the he is playing word games. it's getting old. you have a situation where you have the "new york times" reporting on september 20th, that's the first time the white house used the word terrorism in connection with an attack. this is not up for opinion. it's a fact. he was asked in an interview with steve croft right afterwards. >> bill: you are dodging my question. >> i can't get inside his head and know why he does it. >> bill: he has white house counsel to remind him what he says. all right? he has speech writers who put on paper what he said and what he hasn't

and gave up four pinocchios. i called it a lie. it is. it is transparently a lie. >> bill: why do you think then the president is putting his reputation on the line. >> i don't know. >> and people like you in the "the washington post" who support the president, why do you think he is doing that? you must have some thought about it. there has got to be a reason the man is putting his whole reputation on the line here. >> i don't know if he he doesn't remember what he he said but the he is playing word games. it's getting old. you have a situation where you have the "new york times" reporting on september 20th, that's the first time the white house used the word terrorism in connection with an attack. this is not up for opinion. it's a fact. he was asked in an interview with steve croft right afterwards. >> bill: you are dodging my question. >> i can't get inside his head and know why he does it. >> bill: he has white house counsel to remind him what he says. all right? he has speech writers who put on paper what he said and what he hasn't

house and state department correspondent this morning says the assertion for the president four pinocchiosalsehood. obama said he said it was an act of they're roar but actually the president spoke in vague terms and did not state the american ambassador died because of an act of terror. when given the opportunity to say it was terrorism, the president ducked the question, and then pointed to this exchange the president had after the roast garden event. >> mr. president this morning you went out of your way to aview the use of the word terrorism in connection with the libya attack. do you believe this was a terrorist attack? >> it's too early to know exactly how this came about, what group was involved. >> the obama administration continues today to assert the lingering questions over the false talking points on benghazi delivered by susan rice on september 16th are simply part of a quote, unquote, political circus. >> ongoing obsession with talking points and benghazi and the attempt to politicize that. constitute a sideshow that is driven purely by -- or largely by political interests, a

debbie wasserman schultz, the congresswoman from florida got the pinocchio of the year award saying republicansd to end medicare as we know it. the democrats have them. but i do think that when the republicans have them, they get more press attention, the press enjoys vilifying them. and the democrats, it's noted by the media, but comes and goes. they don't seem to treat the democrats with the same pleasure that they treat republicans. >> but you also have to agree, ari, that the scale of michele bachmann's kind of fibbing is beyond anything that we have seen before. politifact did a roundup today after her video came out that she wasn't going to seek re-election. and all of all the comments they have ever fact-checked for michele bachmann, 75% of them were rated mostly false or worse. and only 8% of the statements that they had fact-checked for michelle bachmann were unambiguously true. that is a very different kind of track record than what you have just pointed out on the other side. >> and as i said, she's not my cup of tea. >> i don't know whose cup can of tea that is. >> the lie of the ye

obama four pinocchios for claiming he had described benghazi as an act of terror back on september 12thot affirmatively state that the american ambassador died because of terrorism. when given repeatedly opportunities to forth rightly declare benghazi was an act of terrorism he ducked the question. finally former vice president dick cheney appearing on hannity last night called benghazi a, quote, coverup that he said is still ongoing, shep? >> shepard: james rosen in washington tonight. thanks. the senate foreign relations committee today approved a new ambassador to libya. her name is debra k jones. the president nominated her after the death of ambassador chris stevens. she is a career diplomat who has served in several middle eastern hot spots, including syria and iraq, as well as kuwait and turkey joan still faces a full senate confirmation. more fallout from those automatic success ter spending cuts. the defense secretary chuck hagel says most of the pentagon's 800,000 workers will have to take 11 days off without pay in july. broke the news town hall meeting in virginia. he says h

she got the highest percentage of four pinocchios of any congress person.l miss michele bachmann. [ explosion ] >> stephanie: and he was the one that talked about the truth in media. the most pants on fire. okay. maybe it's because she is so hot for jesus. i had not heard that one before. of all the michele bachmann crazies. >> she's hot for a 2,000 year old jew? >> it's not uncommon for an evangelical to say that, though. >> stephanie: that we're hot for jesus? >> yeah, it's their way of modernizing their relationship with jesus, i believe. >> stephanie: our long national nightmare is over, john writes well, that's over stating it. she has announced she will not run for reelection. smiling stiffly through an eight and a half minute video. this characterized her disaster of a career she wanted the world to know the decision was not impacted -- >> where did you get that idea? >> stephanie: john writes in a word, bull [ censor bleep ]. and there is rambling quality. it's sort of like a video manifesto, this is bachmann's hostage video to reality. the video wo

they called it a whopper and gave chairman issa four pinocchios, but no one substantiates these claimsnd they should give the secretary of state an apology and at the very least take this false information off of a government website. >> eric, i cannot help but notice that hillary clinton features quite prominently in the question today as i watched part of the hearing, in the graphic we showed. if i were disposed to have an uncharitable view of this enterprise, i might be led to believe that this was politically motivated to try to sully her in advance of what is perceived to be an inevitable white house run. >> this was going to be the lead bang shot, lead to impeachment for obama and derail hillary clinton's 2016 campaign. it didn't do either, and what the congresswoman talked about, they can't get off this train. the obvious place would have been the end of the election, the state department report, but fox needs this content. they need this phoney outrage machine. >> i literally don't understand why now. >> i'll tell you why. >> if i was tracking it, okay, the right wingers on my

hillary clinton should be held responsible and what came out at the hearing, they awarded it four pinocchios, which means the lowest level of credibility you can possibly have. it is unsubstantiated. and yet the witch-hunt continues. >> schieffer: finally, senator ayotte, what should happen next in your point of view? >> bob, what i believe should happen next is that there are serious questions that need to be answered before the facility requirement waiver. in addition, there's a different rendition as to why chris stevens was in benghazi today in the a.r.b. report. >> schieffer: all right. >> and what mr. hicks said. i think there are serious questions-- >> schieffer: all right, i'm very sorry, we have to break there. we'll be right back. are you still sleeping? just wanted to check and make sure that we were on schedule. the first technology of its kind... mom and dad, i have great news. is now providing answers families need. siemens. answers. yesterday to former secretary of defense one gates at historic wilin virginia. we asked him to give us his perspective on the benghazi situation.

just a day or so before the hearing with four pinocchios from the fact checkers, that her name, liken every cable that comes from the state department, including the one that tells you what kind of paint to put on the wall in missions. that's just to show it's official. >> what do you feel, though, about the admission, or the revelation, that state department spokesperson victoria nuland asked the cia to delete a paragraph, in her words, because it might be used by members of congress to beat up the state department for not paying attention to security issues in benghazi? >> well, she wasn't before us, and here we have some hearsay. what -- the only information we have which has been verified is the information from general petrae petraeus, that what was taken out was taken out not by the state department but by the cia, by the intelligence forces. and that was mention of al qaeda. now, if they want to bring her, bring her, but what they did was to bring us some of the officials that were on the ground 400 miles away in tripoli. they weren't on the ground in benghazi. and they -- the

house as well as maybe who will break now the guinness book of world records for the most number of pinocchios that's very, very good. i love the way you put that, angela. krystal, ted cruz, he is going to be speaking in new york tonight. peter king says he's not going to attend because he voted against hurricane sandy relief. isn't ted cruz actually as extreme philosophically, but more dangerous, because he's much more central within the republican party? >> he is trying to actually use the sort of mechanisms of power that exist to go through the established channels. and i think you're right. i think he is more dangerous. i think he has a broader chance of -- of getting that libertarian support that, say, rand paul is also courting. and trying to do it in more of a mainstream way, even though his views are just as ideological and just as out there as michele bachmann's. >> but he's also causing trouble within the republican party with people like john mccain calling him a wacko bird and not liking him and not feeling he's working particularly on the issue of the budget. so cruz, why he espou

column called this a completely false statement, they called it a whopper and gave chairman isa four pinocchiosno one substantiates these claims, and they should give the secretary of state an apology, and at the very least, take this false information off of a government website. >> eric, i cannot help but notice that hillary clinton features quite prominently today in the hearing of the graphic we showed. if i were to have an unchartable view of this enterprise, i might be led to believe this this was politically motivated to what might be an in he havabehe hav- inevitable white house round. >> they can't get off this train. the obvious place would have been at the end of the election. the obvious place would have been the state department report. but fox needs this content. they need this phoney outrage. >> i literally don't understand why now. if i was tracking it, it was like, okay, the right wingers are tweeting me about benghazi, then there was a lull, and then everything benghazi, benghazi. >> they didn't get anywhere with the actual attack, the cover-up, then the undue report came out

and the "washington post" gave him three pinocchio's for that one. he calls us liars? the biggest whopper of all is that 90% of americans support his background checks bill. the media can't rant and rave about anything else. 90% of americans don't want criminals and the mentally ill to get their hands on guns. i don't know what kind of polling they do down at the white house, but i do know this. when it comes to keeping guns out of the hands of violent criminals and the mentally deranged, nra members agree 100%. [applause] but mr. president, the bill you backed would not accomplish that goal. your bill, the bill you ordered was simply a maze of regulations that could criminalize lawful firearms transactions. and create potentially create, a massive government list of every law-abiding gun owner in the united states of america. the schumer bill you first supported, and you still support. it would create a database of every gun owner in america. the manchin-toomey bill you later backed would not have prevented tucson, aurora, and won't prevent the next tragedy. you canno

actually what happened you need to replenish piece what had washington post to where he gave three pinocchio's to that claim they were the e-mails they were on and not take not don't take them with you basis there were notes made about the e-mails it was a readout situation where you wrote down what was in this is why so john they think they are all lies that having a version in talking points this is what no this was in the original briefing these people on the committee were not allowed to take the this is i'm following kessler you need to check with that check with that article glenn kessler in the so you're talking about tom. taking notes or other people i read that does not have some slam dunk thing that it has to be tom coburn they could have it there could have been other leakers on the select committee there's no data to her her putting the two i think called out it was an entry is a journalist something new something that's obviously different he's talking about the data that came from the administration was lacking the sixty seven hours by chance the sixty said the first sixty seven

"the washington post" gave her four pinocchios which is about their worst rating in terms of credibility learned yesterday that the irs had far more information about this targeting a year ago than they have let on. in addition, we learned two things. we learned that a manager from washington holly pass was in the -- many of the interviews that the i.g. did with folks in cincinnati. so she knew the testimony about the targeting before it came out in the i.g. report. secondly, the irs did its own internal investigation about a year ago and found that there was, indeed targeting. so for this last year when they have told congress absolutely nothing, they had much more information than they claimed to have had. >> yeah. all right. look at the "the washington post" today, this is where white house counsel kathy rumler comes in. she was given a thumbnail sketch of the findings that the irs improperly targeted tea party and other skeveni ideservive gr shared with white house aids and they agreed, according to "the washington post" it would be best not to share it with president obama so this a

that is their work, and they gave it four pinocchio is.tements that were made on sunday talk shows. saying that they misled the american people. the claim has been directly contradicted by our nation's top intelligence officials, general james clapper. he testified that he has already done before the senate. because he was going on what we had given her and that was our best judgment at the time. the accountability review board led by thomas pickering and admiral mike mullen examined the role and this accusation was inaccurate. they covered it up and admiral mullen are failing to investigate it, the least we can do is have them invited to this hearing today and according to our conversation yesterday, with regards to admiral pickering and admiral mullen, you had said you plan to be a part of this and i appreciate that. last but not least, i want to make it clear to our witnesses. i respect the witnesses who are here today to offer their testimony as a lawyer and an officer of the court. i have tremendous respect and today's hearing is not

"the washington post" gave her a bushel of pinocchios. it is a crime to lie to congress.er attorney advised her she should probably clam up today. martha: this investigation is going further. there is the potential for criminal charges and that would explain why her attorney may be advising her to take the here. but so many -- to take the fifth here. who gave her direction and do people believe this was a small group of independently acting employees in cincinnati who took this upon themselves to sort out the conservative groups and ask them questions like who do you pray for and what books are you reading? >> reporter: that's correct. the initial explanations s be the cincinnati office went rogue and was doing its own thing. most people who study the pure grath krastud -- mostpeople whoy say who outside of the irs might have known. neil wollen is expected to be a key figure when they try to figure out who outside of the irs bubble, what they knew and what they did with that information at that point. earlier this year after time geithner left of the role of treasury secr

and the washington post gave the forident three pinocchios that one. andy coulson sliders. the biggest whopper of all, one of the president's favorite lines is that 90 percent of americans support his background check bill. cannot grant and rave about anything else. 90% americans don't want criminals or the mentally ill to get their hands on guns. kind i don't know what of polling data with the white house, but i do know this. when it comes to keeping guns out of hands of violent criminals or the mentally deranged, nra members agree 100%. [applause] but mr. president, the bill u.n.-backed would not accomplish that goal. your bill was a check that criminals avoid. the bill you ordered a law- abiding to participate in would simply -- was simply a maze of regulations that could criminalize waffle fire arms transactions and create government a massive list of every law-abiding gun owner in the united states of america. schumer's bill you first supported and still support would create a data base of every gun owner in america. chin-tumey that you later backed would not a prevent

a claim which "the washington post" gave him four pinocchios. >> that's say that true, what the presidentfter it happened or two days, that it was terrorism. if that's true, why later did he permit susan rice as un embassador to go out and spread this line of bs. was she reprimanded for that? did he correct her? did the white house say we regret to inform you what susan rice said was in disagreement with the president? no. the president expressed all kinds of doubts after that about whether it was terrorism or not so the whole argument doesn't hold water. >> megyn: i have to run, but how much did these three matters impede the president's ability to go anything done in the near future? >> one of the unfortunate consequences is it paralyzes an administration and blocks the agenda. you go into a period of radio silence where you can't get your message out on anything else and that persists until the whole thing dies down, if indeed it ever does. >> megyn: thank you, sir. coming up. former football great, o.j. simpson heads back to the courthouse where he was convicted. why the juice is on t

the only reason they didn't give him five pinocchios is you can't get five. four is the highest rating you can get for misleading and inaccurate information. well, we need more details, madam president, about the benghazi coverup, the i.r.s. targeting of conservatives, and the justice department's decision to monitor members of the media. today, madam president, though, i want to talk about another important story that raises serious questions about this administration's actions. and, of course, i'm referring to the abuse of power that i call the is he bai sebelius shakedow. this was first reported by "the washington post" on its front page last weekend. here's the headline -- "h.h.s. asking firms for money for obamacare." the article goes on to say, "health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius has gone hat in hand" -- hat in hand -- "to health industry officials asking them to make large financial donations to help with the effort to implement president obama's landmark health care law." that's the quote from the article. the article goes on. it sa