inre were times when we, both the case of admiral poindexter and mr. mcfarlane decided no more memoranda on certain subjects and there would be verbal briefings. mr. nields: that was not the case with these memoranda seeking diversion of -- lt. col. north: you refer to it as diversion. my use of webster leads me to believe that those were residuals. it toerted money and put a better use. mr. nields: i am asking you whether you didn't continue to send memoranda seeking approval residualsr,s o whatever the word, for the benefit of the contras, up to the president for approval? lt. col. north: i did not send this to the president. this memorandum went to the national security adviser seeking he obtained the president's approval. this is a big difference. this is not a memoranda to the president. mr. nields: my question to you, isn't it true that you continued to send them up to the national security adviser seeking the president's approval? lt. col. north: it is my recollection that i did. mr. nields: and admiral poindexter never told you, stop sending th

there were times when we in both the case of admiral poindexter and mr. mcfarlane decided no more memoranda on certain subjects and they'd be handled with verbal briefings. john nields jr: but, that was not the case with respect to these memoranda seeking approval of the diversions? north: well, you, you insist on referring to it as "diversion". i, -- my use of websterd does -- leads me to believe that those were "residuals" and not diverted -- the only thing we did was divert money out of mr. ghorbanifar's pocket and put it to a better use, but -- john nields jr: i'm not asking you about words, now, colonel. if i'm asking you whether you didn't continue to send memoranda seeking approval of diversions or residuals, whatever the word, for the benefit of the contras, up to the president for approval? north: i did not send them to the president, mr. nields. this memorandum went to the national security adviser, seeking that he obtain the president's approval. there is a big difference. this is not a memorandum to the president. john nields jr: and, my quest

he suggested it might be admiral poindexter. >> because next up in the line it would be admiral poindexter on this matter? lt. col. north: that is correct. there was a nominal deputy who would've been aware of some of this. did you discuss blaming it on him after his death? lt. col. north: it would be hard to blame something that was going on in november on somebody who died in the summer. >> the original approval? lt. col. north: no. >> so director casey discuss justyou the fact that it might not be credible for you to take the hit and that it might have to be admiral poindexter? lt. col. north: words to that effect. >> did he discuss anyone else that would have to take the hit? lt. col. north: he was concerned that the president not be damaged by it, and i shared that belief. >> these conversations took place before november 21, correct? lt. col. north: i would guess so, yes. i spent the first part in november in very heavy travel, and so did the director. my recollection is we had one conversation early in the month, perhaps during one of my layovers in washington. the next conversation

admiral poindexter knew. knew?at mr. mcfarland lt. col. north: that sounds right. >> do you recall that you did not tell the attorney general of the united states that director casey knew. lt. col. north: i don't recall that i didn't. >> was it part of the plan of that stage that you would not name director casey? lt. col. north: it had always been part of the plan director casey would know nothing of the support to the nicaraguan resistance. >> and who else was part of the plan that did not know any income about the support to the nicaraguan resistance? lt. col. north: other cabinet officers who had to testify. it was a very closed circle of people who knew. >> which other cabinet offices? lt. col. north: the people who didn't know. it was just a matter -- i told you who i thought knew and i told you -- you have seen who i sent memorandum to and you know the record of communications i had with various is. i don't know who else knew. >> you testified a moment ago, unless you misunderstood the question -- >> c

mcfarlane and admiral poindexter. this is after the attorney general. with theyou have met attorney general, did he ask you what happened at that meeting? lt. col. north: i suppose he did or i volunteered it. do you recall telling mr. mcfarlane about the fact that they had found the memorandum? that remember telling him you asked about who knew? >> it was a profoundly difficult time because that memorandum wasn't supposed to exist. understand due to say a moment ago that if admiral poindexter had not told you on friday that he had not told the president you "may well have told the attorney general that .he president didn't know >> that is a very confusing question. >> did you just testify a few that had map -- that had admiral pointed to not told you that the president was diversion you may well have told the attorney general on that sunday that the president knew? lt. col. north: i don't want to leave any false impressions. in the conversations i had with the admiral on friday, all of which were related to my , the safety of the hostages in the second

and he says, poindexter and north, they're fired. poindexter, national security adviser. north, staff member at the national security council. they're fired. they're gone. the message is clear. these guys were doing things they shouldn't have been doing. last thing that happens on tuesday -- and it is actually only about an hour after meese announces the diversion. i said reagan left the press conference early. reagan phones north directly. picks up the phone. calls ollie north. this is based on north's later account. reagan says to north, ollie, you have to understand i just didn't know. so what does this mean? how would you interpret this? if it's true that reagan said to north, "i just didn't know" -- >> you mean he didn't know the degree to which north was -- prof. rossinow: i didn't know about the diversion. maybe that's what it meant. >> i didn't know he was going to do this. i had no idea. prof. rossinow: i didn't know any of it. i didn't know any of it. you know, reagan and north had had contact. they had meetings. reagan liked north, you know? they had a relation

because of the granting of immunity to admiral poindexter and colonel north. now in part i'm told by people who are involved at that stage, that that was due to, there was a degree of overconfidence on the part of the congressional counsel. that nothing bad would happen from the grant of immunity, that was a mistake in prediction. and in an area that's very hard to predict. because two judges can confound any prediction that's made. as a practical matter immunity is an issue that poses by far the greatest risk to the success of two parallel investigations. and i'm sure you'll find that the crucial witnesses are unlikely to agree to testify in your hearing, without a grant of immunity. and you're going to have to work in close cooperation with the special counsel and i'm made some suggestions about mechanisms, that may work for reducing the risk of immunity grants, causing damage to the prosecution and we can talk about that during the question and answer period. the point i want to close with is that you may find in some instances that there's an irreconcilabl

andrew frye, represented the government in the mets of the iran-contra condition of admiral poindexter in seeking the supreme court review of the rehearsal of convictions of admiral poindexter and colonel north. we're trying avoid getting the way of the prosecutor. he was the general counsel acting and general counsel to the u.s. house of representatives, assistant legal counsel of the united states senate from 1979 to 1984. each of you and your own way have a tremendous insight into how congress should behave when there's a conflict between a congressional investigation and a potential crime, and just as he is known for, perfect timing, senator whitehouse will now give his opening statement. >> thank you, chairman graham. i like the haircut. >> thank you. must have ran from rhode island. ... or deadly serious as they implicate the president's fitness to perform the duties of his office. in the meantime the subcommittee is doing its job. if the function of congress is to be preferred even to its legislative function. from senator truman's investigation of the defense contractors to the

let's take out of the 26 witnesses that are immunized, the 24th are not all over north and john poindexter whose testimony we needed and have done by immunity in large measure, witnesses who are not prosecution targets were likely to face prosecution take the fifth because they don't want for the personal reasons to testify. they were loyal back then to the people on the national security side of the administration on iran contra and they will be loyal this time take for example people on the campaign staff of candidate trump. the only way i can say this is by taking the fifth, so i will take the fifth. there is a proper course for congress. the easiest thing for the witnesses who are most likely and readily taking this when they don't have an actual expectation is to wait until he himself immunizes them as he will end as he wants to get their information and then in consultation with him follow up with your own immunization. there is no prosecution could jeopardize the circumstances. the independent counsel who says of those four roger stone, today's excitement in the news but then you wo

the buck does not stop with admiral poindexter. it stops with me.ultimately accountable to the american people. >> even if what regan did was a horrible blunder, it wasn't for political gain. this wasn't a dirty trick against the opposition party. it wasn't the same as watergate. they wanted to give the president the benefit of the doubt. >> he was thought of as the teflon president. he could make mistakes but the voters didn't care. they cared about regan's grand vision of a better country. >> he appeared relaxed and happy as he visited nebraska country today. right after his speech, the white house received 1145 positive phone coms. >> time to get down to the real business at hand to move forward with america. >> regan didn't recover quickly but he did recover. he brought in a new team. howard baker as his chief of staff. colon powell and that third team was the third chapter. >> ladies and gentlemen, the president of the united states. >> george bush played a major role in everything that we have accomplished in these eight years. america needs g

to admiral poindexter, you wrote your ties with the iranian were going well and that quote we may want to move quickly beyond the quote obstacle of the hostages, sincerely believing we can bring in into the yuan, iraq -- ir an-iraq war. if you had achieved that objective alone, the iran initiative would have been quite a success. broad foreign-policy goals were associated with the iran initiative. in addition, the protection of northern tier state like pakistan, india, afghanistan. was that part of what you are trying to be? >> yes. >> and to keep them supporting the freedom fighters in afghanistan? >> yes. saudi arabia, egypt, kuwait, or they important parts of your goals? >> yes. weans one of this goals to iran away from it support of terrorism? >> yes. was the delivery of a captured russian military equipment to the united states part of the plan? >> yes. was the elimination of the iranian support for the sandinistas part of your role? >> yes. >> if we could have gotten the which concerned all of these broader foreign-policy goals, that still would have been an excellent result, whe

col: north: this appears to be a note from myself to donfortier, with copy on to admiral poindexter, i believe. the subject is special meeting on central america. "will" -- that's wilma hall, mother of my secretary --"please pass to don." -- don fortier was at the time the principaldeputy assistant to the president for national security affairs,who has since died. "this weekend's trip to honduras and el salvador was the most depressing venture in my four years of working the central american issue. there is great anxiety that the congress will not act in time to stave off a major defeat for the resistance. this sense exists in the government's of honduras and el salvador, but mostalarmingly is now evident in the resistance itself. the lack of aviable source of resupply has not only affected combat operations;it is now beginning to affect the political viability of the unifiednicaraguan opposition leadership as well."colonel bermudez in front of the southern front commanders elnegro chomorro questioned the need for uno and the drain of scarceresources to support the atlantic and south

officials here are still bracing for the testimony next week of john poindexter.orth met with the president every day. sometimes with no one else in the room. >> did you at any time tell the president that proceeds from the iranian arms sale were being used to support the contras? >> i don't -- i did not. the important point here is that on this whole issue, the buck stops here with me. >> if there had within evidence that reagan knew about the diversion of money from the contras in anything rag whnicar would have been called for his resignation. but he walked away not unscathed because his reputation took a hit but he did get another chance to rescue his presidency from that low point. your new prn does have a few side effects. oh, like what? ♪ you're gonna have dizziness, ♪ nausea, and sweaty eyelids. ♪ and in certain cases chronic flatulence. ♪ no. ♪ sooooo gassy girl. ♪ so gassy. if you're boyz ii men, you make anything sound good. it's what you do. if you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance, you switch to geico. it's what you do. next! ♪ nex

and, we will obviously have to ask general when dexter some --and role poindexter admiral poindexter some questions. the next question with regard to process is having to do with your attitude to congress. i bothered by your attitude. you show very little appreciation for congress passed role in the foreign policy process. you acknowledge you were erroneous, evasive, misleading, and wrong in your testimony to congress. i appreciate that honesty can be hard in the conduct of government. but i am impressed that policy was driven by a series of lies. lies to the iranians, lies to the central intelligence agency, lies to the attorney general, lies to our friends and allies, lies to the congress, and lies to the american people. so often during these hearings, not just hearing your testimony but others as well, i have been reminded of president thomas jefferson's statement, "the whole art of government consists in the art of being honest." your experience has been in the executive branch and mine has been in a congress. inevitably our perspectives will differ. nonetheless, if i may say so

andrew frey represents the government in the iran contra condition of admiral poindexter in seeking supreme court review of the reversal of conditions of the admirable. so we are trying to avoid here getting in the way of the prosecutor. special deputy chief counsel to the house of the iran committee in 1997, 1984 to 1995 was the general counsel acting deputy counsel to the u.s. house of representatives and assistant legal counsel of the united states from 1979 to 1984. each of you in your own way have a tremendous insight into how congress should behave when there is a conflict between the congressional investigation and a crime and just as he is known for, perfect timing. senator white house will now have his opening statement. i have no doubt that we will get to the bottom of any violations or criminal law. congress has the duty to understand new what and when regarding the campaign hope held get him elected. this afternoon we will continue our work in the subcommittee to help the public understand what happened -- these questions are serious as they implicate the president's fitness to

it you and bill casey or admiral poindexter established plans for the future in the event that bill casey had left the cia or became disabled or die? north: no. sen. trible: what about your reassignment in the remaining court? twitter contingent -- in the marine corps? were there contingency plans? the things that director casey was looking into was not something that would sustain in the 1990's in the activities. he was talking about the use of outside entities to support limited form policy goals of the government. i described some of the activities to the committees in the executive session. it was not the kind of thing that -- that -- i don't think-- director casey had in mind for outliving even his tenure as director of central intelligence. although, as i indicated in mytestimony, we never got to that point.we were -- i regarded this as an magic of solution to some short-term problems. a number of the initiatives that were overtaken that i briefed them on assume that these were immediate short-term -- you could put the company back on the shelf or do away with it. that is how i saw

>> my name is kianna poindexter. >> okay, kianna, how old are you? >> nine. >> and you say you have a secret that you couldn't tell anybody but me and you told me. i want to share the secret with everybody. >> well, my secret is i'm related to kevin hart. i am his cousin. >> this is kevin hart's cousin. she is here. this is a family affair. i'm kevin hart's conditions inch. she kevin hart's cousin. we are all kevin hart's cousin out here. do you have a message for kevin hart? >> if you are watching, kevin hart, i just want you to know that i really want to meet you and i really am happy to see that it is kevin hart day and everything, and i just want you to know i love you. >> oh! >> this girl already a star soon. kevin, come on out here, meet your cousin. come out here, meet me. i want a million dollars from you. that's what you should have asked. i want a million dollars from you. here at broad and erie, kevin hart day on kevin hart's birthday. it is a free event. >> today is kevin hart's birthday. >> today is kevin hart's birthday, it is your cous

. >> dexter -- buster poindexter. >> feeling hot, hot, hot, >> feeling 100 plus later this afternoon.eady for the big time heat coming our way. not just today. days where we'll be dealing with temperatures up and over the 90s. 96 later this afternoon and 95 for tomorrow. look at thursday, 98. and believe it or not i'm on the cool side on thursday. temperatures could push 100 degrees thuring ang if we get enough sunshine. each days heat index 1000 to 105 that's the july heat wave. off inform d.c. mild start. 78 for quantico. 75 leonardtown. 60s. martinsburg hanging on to 67. culpeper 65. mannasas, could go morning, 66. quick to rise once the moon sets and sun in the sky. here's what's going on mast night. they had a complex of storms rushing through ohio. clouds filtering over the mountains. storms fade as they hit the mountains. again we get some clouds through the early morning hours before they too break up and we get back to the sunshine and heat things up later this afternoon. and 9 owes once again coming this way and high pressure off the looingt line ha. we got a nice southerly