he used to say, after he was elected pope, that people would come to st. peters square to see john paul two. they came to listen to pope benedict the 16th. not to say john paul was not a good speaker. but benedict was more successful with people. and he writes so wonderfully. >> he is a definitive scholar. if you wanted to find out how to do it, you would watch him. >> absolutely. in fact, people ask about his legacy. >> of course, it is going to be all of his writings. they are still of great value. the two that stands out for me, is the spirit of liturgy. it is a masterpiece. i think the best book ever written on the mass, in the whole history of the church. it sounds like a big statement. but i believe it. and then his book on jesus of nazareth. it is pretty phenomenal. that the pope would focus and focus on what? very center of our lives as christians. >> do you want to comment on the eight years. and he must've had all of this going on in his mind through all of that. >> it is a lot to comment on. it pope is priest, prophet and king. how did he do it? as they preach, -- as a priest

that's what pope john paul ii and pope benedict talked about. why is francis not harping on that?think he is. this is a key point. let's not try to spin francis and say he's pro-capitalist because he surely isn't. part of this is he grew up in argentina where his experience of capitalism is crony capitalism, big business, big government, big interest groups all working together. and really excluding the poor. but i think if you look at his document, he's talking about consumerism. he's talking about really the underlying problems that, look, i'm a free marketer like you, larry. but we can agree that a free market perfectly run that's secular and hedonnist still kills souls. >> i don't believe that. i think other things kill souls. honestly, really. >> but if it's without a moral underpinning -- >> don't forget -- >> everything becomes focused on matter. >> adam smith, the great churchman -- i want to go back to rusty's piece. just think, children born out of wedlock, the rise in the divorce rate, the so-called sexual revolution, the decline in the culture of marriage and a million

would call a conservative capitalism he has to say that what a pity that we have such stupendous pope john paul the second and pope benedict people will think that the church is made by men. as roman catholics we have to trust the holy spirit and i'm confident you know the holy spirit will guide the church. let's talk about the holy spirit here because it's people don't have a problem with the holy spirit they have a lot of problems with the catholic church doctrine that they have a problem with well you know here's the thing when you bring in a new head of the organization you do so to address the. fundamental issues that are that are a cancer in the organization and let's be very clear about this why while this pope pope francis has spoken out against. capitalism you know negative capitalism making money as a god and i am i am heavily paraphrasing there. let's be real jesus in the temple turned over the money changers tables that's doctrine that all christians can agree on that's nothing new and radical this pope has yet to address the major issues that are plaguing catholicism right now he h

what strikes you as fresh in the story of pope john paul ii? >> guest: i think thing that strikes me is the way that the polls have described the impact. it was not just the pride in a polish pope. he became pope in 1978. the polls were extremely happy about that. needless to say. the kremlin was extremely worried about it. but i think it has a great deal to do with the special qualities of john paul ii. he was one of the most brilliant men ever to become pope. he spoke many languages in the new -- he had two.grits. doctorates. he combined that intellect with a very easy charismatic way of dealing with ordinary folks. he was a very fine parish priest because he did things with his parishioners. he went out and did sports with them and he attended the confirmations for their children that is the kind of guy he was so he was a remarkably unique individual in the history of the pappas he and i think that played a big role. the other big thing that was the most interesting to me when i came back and looked at the story then was the role that the pop

that has been especially true under pope john paul ii and with good reason. 1, the pope was shot in st. peter's square and barely survived. rescued from death, he believed, by mary's hand. >> i believe and i am sure he believes it, too, that it was the virgin of fatima that saved him. yes, i think he believes it. the pope has said once to my bishop that he comes to fatima every day. >> fatima is the town in portugal where the catholic church believes this image of the virgin mary appeared to three shepherd children on may 13, 1916, 65 years to the day that the pope was nearly killed by this bullet. the virgin mary also gave three secrets to the children. the first, a vision of hell. the second, the need to defeat communism in russia. and the third, a prediction too terrible to reveal. then, in the year 2000, pope john paul revealed the secret. >> it was about a figure in white being wounded. it wasn't a precise prophecy of what happened to the pope in 1981 but it was kind of a vague picture that fitted that occasion and there was nothing very startling about i

a visit from pope john paul ii. >> it's a little more than just a stadium. it's kind of home to us. we spend more time here than we do at home. >> the city is planning several farewell events over the next year. >>> everything is back up and running at san jose international airport, but today passengers are complaining of a lingering and musty smell inside the terminal. this after yesterday the flood waters shutting down terminal a. a hot water pipe exploded sending water everywhere. airport officials are calling the break a fluke. >> we're constantly testing our systems and infrastructure here at the airport in both terminals to ensure they are always ready for passenger operations. we're working to make sure it doesn't happen again. >> the cause of the water rupture is believed to be a failed joint. >>> the oakland preacher who predicted the end of the world several times as died. he died at his home on sunday. he was hospitalized after a fall. he first predicted the rapture would happen in 1994. then in may in 2011 and then again five months later. when judgment day did not come

but we have moved from two consecutive papacies that were focus on consolidation where pope john pauls successor pope benedict -- drifting too far and too fast away from certain moorings, we had therefore doing quick math here, something like 33 years of consolation which is not unusual in a large institution that has gone through a -- it's time for us to go out to the world, the church's job is to introduce people to christ. and so it's fundamentally by tone, but that tone is rather important because consolation can never be the central business of the church. >> i think the tone a aspect of it grace and empathy, you're right, father bill, no church teachings have changed. nothing has changed. but i feel more worldly about the church that was my home during my upbringing. and it really says something, sam about the way you talk about things and the language of cultural war particularly in the way that that kind of polarization works, i want to talk about that right after we take this quick break. but your erectile dysfunction - it could be a question of blood flow. cialis tadalafil f

. >> the kyle gorbachev and george bush senior thanked pope john paul ii. they vanquished communism years ago. and because romania suffered so much under con -- communism, there is a need for new churches. but the family maintained traditions throughout those years. they were slaughtered and butchered. much of it is made into sausages. once all the preparations are completed, the festivities can begin. >> goodbye. gz >> thank you very much for joining us. elements ofof security forces in and around the capital, rounding up men and killing them. is fighting between the military and the renegades. he is accusing his former deputy of trying to orchestrate a

all of the historic moments at candlestick park, september 1987, 70,000 people arrived to see pope john paulthe mass through the same entrance used by the halftime entertainment during 49ers games. the scoreboard read welcome john paul ii. i'm sure a lot of people remember that vividly. >> it was an amazing time for him to visit. people are usually talking about "saturday night live" at the water cooler on monday and this skit what's getting a lot of attention this morning. >> speeches. i think it's vital. to rap. here we go. ♪ jots ♪ >> that was just the beginning of the show. justin timberlake, teaming up for the opening skixt they co-hosted the final "saturday night live" of 2013. i'm so glad i dvred it. >> a little too late for our ours. they can pull anything off. >> the two together, fantastic. >> did you see it? >> i saw some of it and then dozed off. you know of course like you guys i got up at 2:00 in the morning to get here. your weather today. we're looking at sunshine that will grace the bay area. temperatures now are cool, want to grab a jacket doing early christmas shopping or

pope john paul ii appointed him a cardinal. more than a decade on march the 13th, 2013, he was elected to lead the world's estimated 1.2 billion catholics and installed as pope six days later. >> this is the greatness of the man, i think, that he knows who he is. he knows what his responsibility is. >> reporter: this cardinal is the former archbishop in washington, d.c. he says he is handling the job well. >> it doesn't crush him, because he knows he's going to carry it with jesus. and he knows the people out there, and his job is to help them. >> reporter: becoming pope was only one of many significant firsts for the new pontiff. >> he is the first pope from latin america. the first pope from outside europe in 1300 years. and of course he is the first pope to utter the word gay. >> so we have the first jesuit pope. it seems kind of strange that a pope would be a jesuit, because the jesuits take a vow to do what the pope tells them. >> reporter: but even more stunning to many was the name he chose. rita is a life-long catholic a

pope john paul ii had a mass there. 49ers quarterback joe montana says that night was the most memorable the park. >> i was there for the world series and we felt the earthquake and the lights went out. my wife is saying, we have to get out of here. i'm saying, no we have to say. we have to watch the game. >> he's not going to be there for tonight's sendoff. he was in louisiana over the weekend to watch his son nick play in the new orleans bowl. visit our website nbcbayarea.com and search candlestick. >>> what is the end of an era forecast exactly? >> unusual weather as we're seeing dry conditions. not too much wind. the field holding up pretty well. no recent rain, but for the game it looks great out there. upper 50s in san francisco. the view from emeryville and back across the bay, you're looking at all the smoke pollution that is getting worse. the winds typically this time of year is a strong sea breeze. we're seeing the opposite of that. light winds slightly offshore. transporting unhealthy air from the central valley. tomorrow another spare the air day. another one for wednesday o

. >> and the stick played host to the leader of the catholic church, pope john paul ii held a mass there. >> and it was host to one of the mem yabl world series games when northern california hit by its biggest earthquake since 1906. the cheering was so loud it took a moment to realize they experienced a 6.9 trembler. in the crowd joe montana says for all of his success on the field that night was actually his most memorable experience in the park. >> actually was there for the world series when the earthquake happened. we felt the earthquake and lights went out. my wife was going we got to go. i'm going no, no, we got to stay. it was hours and hours. >> what a time. montana says he will not be there for the final regular season game at candle stick, he was in louisiana over the weekend to watch his son play in the new orleans bowl. he will, however, be watching the game on tv. like so many of us. >> bittersweet for fans. most will watch on tv but there are tens of thousands of lucky fan who is have tickets to the game. >> what is likely the final game at the stick. opening early at 1:30

and the service could rival that of pope john paul ii in 2005 which drew five kings, six queens, and 70 presidents. there will be a large public memorial service and a period of visitation for vips from around the world. every living american president in good health is expected to attend including mandela's good friend archbishop desmond tutu. that is the latest now from the live desk. i'm molette green. back to you. >>> molette, thank you. today the south african government the will make room in front of its embassy for you to lead tributes to nelson mandela. the embassy is under construction right now so there is a large fence in had front of it, but that didn't stop any people last nate from putting flowers and candles at the base of the statue honoring mandela. >> i want to pray for his family. >> for my generation a leader we've all looked up to. >> a great fighter, a father, a gentleman. >> it was a different scene outside that embassy in the '80s. protesters gathered there to demand south africa free mandela and end apartheid. >>> you can also honors mandela at howard univers

so many are expected to turn out, it's believed it will rival the funeral services for pope john paul ii when millions attended. diane. >> alex, thank you so much. as you said, we did learn late today, president and mrs. obama will travel to the memorial services next weekend. they will be on board air force 1, riding with them some former residents of the white house, president george w. bush and mrs. bush. >>> another former president is remembering mandela today. president bill clinton, who talked with the anchor of this week, co-anchor of good morning america, george stephanopoulos. >> he once told me that he lived on hatred, when he went into prison. he said after 11 years he realized that they had taken about everything they could take from him except his mind and heart. he said, i realized that those are things you have to give away, and i decided not to give them away. >> mahatma gandhi, abe lincoln, george washington. he belongs in that group. >> he does. you know, in my lifetime, gandhi and mandela, in no small measure, because of their willingness to give up the comforts of

venue but it's hosted other events including the beatles' last concert in 1966, a visit from pope john paul ii. phil ginsburg is general manager. >> it's sad to lose an iconic part of san francisco's history. i mean, there's been so many things, wonderful think thats that have happened here and san francisco families have been coming here for generations and we've welcomed people from all over the bay area, obviously. >> reporter: all agree that the stadium is well past its prime. hardly state of the art. it's cramped and not very comfortable. these showers resemble a high school locker room from the eisenhower era. and on the field and in the stands, cold and windy. >> quarterbacks and stadiums have a shelf life. candlestick has had some very proud history. you know, we're going to say good-bye to it in style. >> reporter: while the 49ers organization looks forward to their new $1.3 billion home in santa clara, they acknowledge things they might actually miss. bob malamo manages the locker room. >> it probably won't hit me until i start driving home in the car by myself. i'll break down. >

the stick also played host to the leader of the catholic church in 1987, pope john paul ii held a massre for some 70,000 people. and of course, it was host to one of the most memorable world series games in history, 1989's game three battle of the bay between the a's and the giants. well, that's when northern california was hit by its biggest earthquake since 1906. in fact, the cheering was so loud it took a minute for fans to actually realize that they'd just experienced a 6.9-magnitude earthquake. joe montana says for all of his successes on the field, that night was most memorable because of his experience in the park. >> i actually was there for the world series when the earthquake happened. we felt the earthquake and the lights went out. my wife was going, no, we got to go, let's get out of here. i'm going, no, no, no, we got to stay and watch the game. we were stuck hours and hours in the parking lot. >> he was out there in the parking lot. well, montana says he will not be there for the final regular season game at candlestick. he is in louisiana over the weekend to watch his so

. >>> the scale and burial is expected to match those of pope john paul and winston churchill and peopleagnitude. when dan rather said he should be considered the greatest leader of the second half of the 20th semplg century, that's how viewed. >>> as the details of the arrangements for the next few days emerge, we will bring them to you right here. that does it for us. thank you for being with us. . >>> the world reacts to the loss of a global icon as news spreads of nelson mandela's death. >> we've lost one of the most influential, courageous and profoundly good human beings that any of us will share time with on this earth. he no longer belongs to us. he belongs to the ages. >> this morning we'll take you to south africa and look at the man who spent so much of his life behind bars, yet his words and actions continue to have a profound impact around the world. >>> and in other news, much of

it's the 1987 visit by pope john paul ii. >> i think there was 87,000, 89,0 89,000. >> both have shflfs and it is time it say good-bye. >> city will celebrate leading up to the events. one hearne p perch who won't be there is malimeau. le neat. >> if you're not ready tocy good-bye yet, maybe one deep playoff run to come. >> much more on the bay coming up. >> i'm just going to be so happy and i'm probably going to get emotional. >> meet the bay area june avo: the volkswagen "sign then drive" sales event is back. which means it's never been easier to get a new 2014 jetta. it gets an impressive 34 highway mpg and comes with no charge scheduled maintenance. and right now you can drive one home for practically just your signature. sign. then drive. get zero due at signing, zero down, zero deposit, and zero first month's payment on any new 2014 volkswagen. hurry, this offer ends january 2nd. visit vwdealer.com today . >>> this morning it is children who are involved in space exploration. goor vin thomas tells us about the aspirations of one south bay junior high. >> san jose's valley christ

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the pope john paul ii funeral, you had several presidents together. it's a security challenge, number one, then the question is how do they work amongst themselves. it's an exclusive club. we do know on this flight over, the president is in his office, george and laura bush have the medical suite which is -- >> on air force one. >> on air force one. they can recon figure it, make it more comfortable and secretary clinton is in the senior staff quadrant of air force one. we also know they spent a decent amount of time, jay carney, the press secretary, told reporters on the way over they spent a lot of time, the group of them together at the conference table, the president has in his little suite of offices there. you would want to be a fly on the wall in that conversation. remember, president obama essentially ran against george w. bush in 2008, as much as he ran against john mccain. but i have spoken to the former president bush about this. he said he gets it, that's politics. one thing about former president bush, he has done this president a favor.

in fact pope john paul had talked about that too. rvative pope, had talked about the best way to get people up in their standards of living is through capitalism. in fact one of his big cyclicals was about that. tracy: matt, last to you. >> this is interesting pope. i'm glad we're talking about that. i hope we don't necessarily see as we saw in "new york" magazine and pope and deblasio's statements interchangeable. they had a quiz online. that is where democratic politics are on in this country. that is to the left where we've seen in more prosperous era for instance under bill clinton. tracy: i hope in the meeting they were deciding who the person of the year was it wasn't a tough guess between the pope and what is her face? help me. miley cyrus. >> pretty striking that "time" magazine set aside the twitter poll and didn't go for miley cyrus. that is another thing. >> that is very true. great debate, guys. tracy: matt, with the show good luck. everybody watch at 9:00. thanks for coming in early for us. ashley: good stuff. tracy: 9:00

remember pope john paul had some harsh words and the reason why the system changed.t will be interesting. he would like to see more out on the streets and a little less inside politic >> that's a little lifting of the veil. >> this guy will make more new >> what led to a firey crash killing a superstar. >> a tough scary 20 minutes, you think about your mortality during that time >> one of our own made a pilgrimage to the philippines and explained the terrifying moments when he was trapped in the biggest storm in history. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, morning. the time is _ _ _. good morning, i'm phil mati. >>> this is kpix news >>> welcome back to kpix 5 this morning. the time is 7:59. good morning. >> first day of december, we have a lot to talk about in the next half-hour. president obama visited the bay area last week. today is also the deadline for his health care web site to start working. we're going to cover where things stand now with president obama and the fairly interesting reception he got here when he visited >>> high-speed rail. okay, the trains, are they running

you know who won in 1994, the year he was elected president, pope john paul, the next year, newt gingrich. >> and clearly, the pope is the man of the century and taught us so many things from the capitalism, to evil, and social inequality, i mean, nelson mandela is the person. >> i think going back to edward snowden and whether or not we knew all of this before, i wonder if hollywood has inured us to this. because if you watch any movie they kind of have all of this data at their fingerprints when they're chasing somebody. so when you find out they actually had all of this data at their fingerprints and you wonder if there was not more outrage, the idea is yes, of course they can do this. >> there were a number of runners up. edward snowden, edith windsor, who was a plaintiff in the case. i had the absolute pleasure of meeting her, an incredible human being. her story is incredible. there is an incredible interview we don't have time to play right now, but we'll put up later. and bashar assad is interesting, it brought up the point that this is a moral designation, stalin won it twice, hi

the last gathering that even compares in size, scope, magnitude in pope john paul ii. the list of speakers is president obama, u.n. secretary-general ban ki-moon, and four of his grandchildren. >> there are a couple of people that lived parallel lives to nelson mandela. after the memorial service nelson mandela's body will lie in state in pretoria. he'll be buried in his home village of qunu, it's in the east of the country, close to the ocean. >> we have team coverage. al jazeera's ali velshi is outside the stadium, and allen schauffler is inside. we have special guest in studio was. >> we have an assistant professor of anthropology at columbia university and a professor of higher education at new york university. she is was appointed to a commission dear to nelson mandela. first to allen schauffler inside the stadium. one thing comes to mind looking at the atmosphere - i imagine this is a bittersweet day for south africans. >> i would doubt that. everybody i have spoken to said the bittersweet part spoke before. you should have seen the crowd boil through the gate. w

says dismantling the union took the toughness of ronald reagan and british prime minister and pope john paul ii born there. he says his role was to stopping too soon. >>> if ididn't do it, then we would have lost. >> even before taking office, he was demanding the soviets remove tens of thousands of troops from poland. it was a tough sell into to his supporters. >> others were afraid to think of it. even if the states people didn't believe this would be possible. >> his own difficulty in compromising may explain why he lost re-election bid. midway through term in 1993 he formed his own political party. in 1996 he broke solidarity all together. he says he has no regrets. >> it's about great concept of democracy. i won democracy. i didn't lose the democracy. >> now with the cold war over, he looks to washington for hope. >> i hope that america, that we would regain in america, a moral leader because that's what the world needs. the world is without leadership is dangerous. >> he says the challenge of globization is that half the world wants it based on values and the other half wants to base o

bigger than the funeral of pope john paul ii. bigger than winston churchill. no place has hosted this many presidents, princes and prime ministers at once. president obama, three former u.s. presidents. the head of more than 90 other nations will be here paying their respects to a man who transformed south africa from a pariah into a modern nation with a place on the world stage. it's 10:30 here in johannesburg. 3:30 on the east coast of the united states. we welcome all your viewers in the u.s. and around the world. i'm joined here at fnb stadium by chief international correspondent christiane amanpour and robin kernow. >> it's electric. the rain they say here is good luck. they truly believe it. of course, the rain is doing a little bit to slow down some of the public transport which was specifically laid on to bring in the thousands and thousands and tens of thousands who needed to get here because the government has been announcing on the television, don't drive your cars. buses will be here for you. trains will be here for you. everything is free. but you

remember pope john paul ii talking about the evils of communism, shh. of the year one year? >> i think he did. >> well, the thing is they -- i think we can all agree, all right, joanne, that the press wasn't going crazy for john paul ii. >> it wasn't as big of a celebration. they didn't print his speeches and talk about his new tone. john paul had a lot of things to say about communism. and then the current pope comes out and says one word, something he does president understand which is economics. he is clueless. i read that speech. they love the guy. >> because why? he said things paul kruggman agrees with. >> you know what -- i was reading the article and they said he is the obama of popes. he is the john mccain. the press is going to turn. just watch. >> the closed caption guy is thinking you are a jerk. joanne, who would you pick as person of the year? >> definitely not miley cyrus. i am very happy she didn't win. there has only ever been four women who have won this. i am just really glad it wasn't her. then again i view this as a pageant. there w

in 1982 reagan and pope john paul ii formed a secret alliance to fight communism in the pope's native poland. together the church and the united states funded and provided resources to solidarity, poland's underground anti-communist group. reagan and john paul believed if poland became democratic other eastern european countries would follow, undoing the influence of the soviet union. president obama has not met with pope francis yet, and although i doubt we'll see any secret alliances, they have a public alliance of sorts on the subject of fighting poverty and inequality and spreading the wealth around a little bit. as the pope wrote recently, not to share one's wealth with is poor is to steal from them and take away their livelihood. it is not our own goods which we hold but theirs. joining me now our senior religion editor for "the huffington post," the reverend paul roushenbush, anthea butler, professor of theology at fordham, michael pepper, and columnist for renew america, michael c. abbott. thanks for being here. i want to start by throwing out that we've heard a lot of pope fr

joe worked on security for pope john paul's funeral. what could go wrong? but a lot could go wrong. >> yeah, south africa's not entirely a safe place. you have a large somali community there, with connections to shabaab. monitoring these will not be easy. you have the problem of a lot of weapons coming through africa, central african republic, libya and the rest of it. so there is the potential danger to secure all these people. >> the u.s. delegation a small part of the crowd. how much control can the u.s. secret service have, realistically? >> well, it's entirely up to the host government. the south african government has hosted u.s. presidential visits in the past. they do a good job. but, again, it's a very difficult situation. you have 100 heads of state means you have 100 armed security details for those hides of state. some of them aren't friendly. it's a very difficult situation and something that requires a lot of flexibility from the white house and the secret service because they can't do what they would normally do on a major overseas trip like

the stick played host to the pontiff when pope john paul ii held mass there for 70,000 people. and host to one of the most memorable world series games in history. 1989's battle of the bay between the a's and giants. the earthquake struck, 56.9 stun their led to a ten-day disruption in play and millions of dollars in loss for the bay area. >>> the 49ers new home is taking shape for its 2014 debut. look at levi stadium today. the espn monday night pregame broadcast was on the jumbotron for workers to enjoy. the $1.2 billion stadium which will hold nearly 70,000 fans will open its doors for a soccer match between the earthquakes and sounders august 2nd of next year. coming soon. first niners game at the stadium will take place later that month it will play host to super bowl l in february of 2016. >> if you want to do more reminiscing right now, visit our website, nbcbayarea.com search candlestick. >>> a treasure found in the trash. the men who discovered a puppy and the amazing journey the dog endured. >>> we have hazy skies, 50s for now. numbers could be soaring close to 70 and

poland, as we mentioned, the election of the polis to the polish pope john paul the second and his return to the precursor of the solidarity movement. great britain, the election, and then the tall malts over the british economy that has been lost, part of the historical narrative of britain after thatcher. some looking for to come back to that. and then number five, of course, the one parlay that most people think of first, the iranian revolution, the toppling of the shah end the hostage crisis. that is an awful lot of ground to cover. let's start with thatcher. there is a huge outpouring of tributes your bird texas are some of the myth. >> guest: i tried to do that. it is always a challenge because you want to show why someone is worth knowing about in the first place. there's been a lot of revision of the history of thatcher come but, of course, first of many have to establish why she was a board in the first place. a very few people vote -- a transformative figure it generated a lot of myths. there are many about her. for example, american conservatives think of for as this icon of co

in 2004, when he visited the vatican and watched him get a little bit of a tongue lashing from pope john paul. but that was kind of a unique situation. broadly, this pope seems to be a lot more assertive in speaking out against these conflicts. >> yeah, dana, it's not surprising on a day when christians celebrate the birth of the prince of peace, that the pope would focus on a message of peace. you'll remember that this is the same pope who when the g-20 summit was meeting in st. petersburg, sent a letter to president putin against any military action in syria. he wrote, lay aside futile pursuit of a military solution. find nonmilitary ways to overcome conflict. so he injected himself there in syria. he's also had some comments about the persecution of christians in the middle east, which will be interesting, as we know, he's going to be visiting israel in may. there's already a controversy about that. so we saw the birth of jesus celebrated in bethlehem last evening. bethlehem, as you may know, in 1950, was about 85% christian. it is now maybe 12% christian. so a definite minority. the contr

in planning their trips to the funerals for israeli prime minister and also to the funeral for pope john paul ii. within four to six hours of nelson mandela passing away a support plane en route to south africa and secret service very quickly casing out the areas where president obama would be. that said, anderson, they say it is a monumental undertaking because some of the security issues are sort of outsourced to the host country and that could be very nerve racking for secret service. >> well, we'll be there to cover it all starting at 3:30 a.m. eastern time in the united states. we hope you'll join us for that. let us know what you think about mandela. tweet us using #ac360. coming up next my of my exclusive conversation with bono. (vo) you are a business pro. maestro of project management. baron of the build-out. you need a permit... to be this awesome. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle... and go. you can even take a full-size or above, and still pay the mid-size price. (aaron) purrrfect. (vo) meee-ow, business pro. meee-ow. go natio

bush borrowed "culture of life" from pope john paul to protest abortion. d of worked for him, didn't it? >> it works until it doesn't work anymore. reagan got great support from pope john paul ii on the soviet bloc in terms of its role in eastern europe. the most the pope says, wait a minute weather and traffic about the nuclear weapons you keep ramping up, reagan says, let's leave church out of this. the george bush the same with the economy. it's difficult to use the catholic church in a particular way if you're not willing to take the message in. as soon as abortion comes up, democrat are in a pickle themselves. it's definitely careful if n how they use the catholic -- careful in how they use the catholic church. >> and the president hasn't been in good standing with the catholic church the last several years. we'll see in front of the supreme court in the first half of 2014 an argument over whether or not the argument can force employers with catholic religious doctrines as part of their core being, whether or not they can force them to cover birth cont

joy worked -- joe worked on sec for pope john paul's funeral. what could go wrong? but a lot could go wrong. >> yeah, south africa's not entirely a safe place. you have a large somali community there, with connections to shabaab. monitoring these will not be easy. you have the problem of a lot of weapons coming through africa, central african republic, libya and the rest of it. so there is the potential danger to secure all these people. >> the u.s. delegation a small part of the crowd. how much control can the u.s. secret service have, realistically? >> well, it's entirely up to the host government. the south african government has hosted u.s. presidential visits in the past. they do a good job. but, again, it's a very difficult situation. you have 100 heads of state means you have 100 armed security details for those hides of state. some of them aren't friendly. it's a very difficult situation and something that requires a lot of flexibility from the white house and the secret service because they can't do what they would normally do on a major overseas trip like

three years later in 2001, pope john paul ii appointed him a cardinal. more than a decade on march 13th it, 2013, he was elected to lead the world's estimated 1.2 billion catholics and installed as pope six days later. >> and this is the greatest of the man i think that he is, that he knows who he is. he knows what his responsibility is. >> cardinal theodore mccarrick is the former archbishop of washington, d.c. a church insider who says that francis is handling his job well. >> it doesn't because he's knows he's going to carry it with jesus and he knows the people are out there and his job is to help them. >> becoming pope was only one of many significant firsts for the new pontiff. >> he is the first pope from latin america, the first pope from outside europe in 1300 years. and, of course, he is the first pope to utter the word "gay." >> we have the first jesuit pope. it seems kind of strange that a pope would be a jesuit because the jesuits take a vow to do what the pope tells them. >> but even more stunning to many was the name he chose. a writer for

the stadium played host to the leader of the catholic church, 1987, pope john paul ii held a mass for 70,000 people. the park is where the beatles played their final full concert in 1966. pretty memorable. >> still ahead, health care deadline coming up. what you need to get done today to ensure you'll be covered at the start of the year. >> as we get you going on this monday morning, about 6:27. take a look at the sunrise over san jose. two shopping days if you still have that. >>. >> health care crunch time. what you need to do by today to make sure you have health insurance at the start of the year. >> plus, a final farewell for our concreed icon as we take you live over the stick. we listen to some of the 49ers great moments as we have the last home game ever played. >> memorable for a lot of folks. let's take you live to new york this morning as we await the opening bell at the nyse. see how markets are going to end the year. close to the end of it. live at the nasdaq as well. the countdown. to the bell they have there. it's monday, december 23rd, this is "today in the bay." >> go

that will surpass the heads of state and world leaders who came to mourn and to say good-bye to pope john paul ii. largest gathering of heads of state outside of u.n. perhaps ever. we'll have to see how this day goes. and of course, there will be tens of thousands of people, perhaps millions of people, trying to get near the soccer stadium where this event will take place. it begins at 11:00 a.m. local time, 4:00 a.m. eastern time. either supposed to last for about four hours. we understand from the list of speakers that several of nelson mandela's grandchildren will speak, also his co-defendants convicted with mandela in 1963 and sentenced to a life in prison on robben island. one of them will speak as well as heads of state, president obama, president of brazil, china, india, raoul castro of cuba. this country has been friends and allies for some time. quite a day ahead of us, andrea. that's just one day. there will be several days where nelson mandela's body will lie in state at the union building at the national capital here and, of course, culminating event, the funeral in the eastern pro

the scale of the memorial and burial is expected to match those of pope john paul, winston churchillgnitude. ran rather said he should be considered the greatest leader of the second half of the 21st century, that is how he's viewed around the world. his sature is something that few people have known. as the details emerge, we will bring them to you right here. now it's time for "the last word with lawrence o'donnell." >>> nelson mandela told his biographer, men come and go. i have come and i will go when my time comes. nelson mandela's time came today. >> i pledge to you with all my strength and ability to live up to your expectations. i am your servant. i don't come to you as