state anchair of the congressional progressive caucus, pramila jayapal. congresswoman pramila jayapal, thank you very much for being with us. you have laid down what has been described as an ultimatum that, unless the senate passes this $3.5 trillio reconciliation bill, you and other members of the progressive caucus will not support the infrastructure legislation which we know there is support for in both parties. why not? >> well, judy, thanks so much for having me on. the key here is we are willing and able and ready to vote for both bills that deliver the entirety of the president's agenda to his desk. that is both the infrastructure bill and the reconciliation bill. but the agreement was made in the senate and, in fact, just today, 11 senators put out a statement saying that the only reason they voted for the bipartisan bill out of the

which pramila jayapal leads. i know the progressives do not want to purposely jump into the pool of the product and smashed the country up to the debt ceiling in, hurt the country for no reason. that's what the republicans are doing. the progressives have the opposite, they today are voting to keep the government open and to extend the debt ceiling so we don't hit those crises. but they are also working on this positive agenda very positively. we are flexing their muscles, counting their members for whom there are many, taking a stand today and tonight. but they want to go big. they want the president bill to pass it entirety, it's three and a half trillion dollar bill that encompasses much of his agenda for his whole first term. they would not -- for the small bipartisan bill, what some republicans want, and what conservative democrats say they are prioritizing. the priorities are insisting. nobody's gonna get anything unless the infrastructure bill, the big one moves as well. pramila jayapal in response to ques

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big house vote for president biden's agenda, the chair of the progressive caucus, congresswoman pramila jayapal will vote for both bills but a majority of our members will only vote for the infrastructure bill after the president's visionary build back better act passes. and congresswoman jayapal joins me now. you and the progressive caucus have been pretty clear on this from day one. i'm not sure people are tracking all of this, which is fine. i don't think it matters that much. what matters is the outcome. why, though, explain your position right now. there is a bill that passed the senate. first of all, can we talk about the content of that bill and your caucuses just on the content of it before we get to process, before we get to the gain theory prisoner's dilemma that is set up. >> yes, absolutely, and great to see you, chris. so five months ago yesterday, the president made that journey from the white house to capitol hill and he laid out had his build back better agenda, and we all got up and cheered. i was in the chamber that night. we all got up and cheered for it because it was the ag

joining us now is congresswoman pramila jayapal. she's chair of the progressive caucus, she's kind enough to join us tonight even though it is her birthday. happy birthday, congresswoman, thank you for joining us. >> i can't think of a better way to spend my birthday than with you. >> i can think of tons of better ways to spend your birthday than being on cable tv with or without me, so it makes it all the more great that you are here, especially since you're in the middle of high stakes negotiations and having high stakes meetings, and really in the middle of crunch time now. tell me in your own words where you think this process is right now and how close the democrats are to a decision. >> yeah. and, rachel, you characterized it perfectly. i just want to take it back a minute to when president biden got elected and before that, what he campaigned on. it was on universal child care, paid leave, making sure we repaired housing, making sure we addressed climate change, expanding health care. addressing immigration, these are all thi

congresswoman pramila jayapal come back again and keep us updated on this. i appreciate. >> thank you, chris. >> all right, there's even more breaking news tonight out of congress. we have brand-new subpoenas. a whole crop of them from the january six committee that give an interesting window into where this investigation is headed, what we know. after this. after this

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pramila jayapal, you are the center right now it's great to have you. here >> it's great to see rachel. >> what happened tonight in the democratic caucus meeting, i know you want to tell us all of it, but what can we understand from that closed door session? >> well i think it's important that those caucus meetings, that people want to be heard. so there is a lot of people saying how they feel. and i think that what i got out of it is that we need to pass both bills. just like how you described. and it was really important that you said, delay means dead. i think this is something that people need to understand. we're already at the end of september and if there is any piece of this reconciliation bill that isn't agreed to by the senate and the house, and if that delay goes on and on, as it does here when you don't have urgency, when you don't have a deadline, when you don't have a reason for momentum, this thing is dead. and i think that is when we look at why we are doing what we're doing, and i just want to emphasize again, there are nine democrats m

we're going to talk with pramila jayapal about where things stand at this hour. now it is also recall day in california. voters in that state decide if governor gavin newsome should remaun in office. this vote comes as senate democrats put forward a new ill to protect voting rights. we're going to talk with alex padilla about the path forward. now in texas, more than 300,000 homes and businesses are without power after tropical storm nicholas made land fall. bringing high ones and heavy rains to the gulf coast. some places could see up to 20 inches of rain from this storm. we begin with the latest out of afghanistan with richard engel live in kabul for us. and our must be might be international affairs analyst. let's start with you on the ground, richard. we have secretary of state anthony blinken saying the threat from isis and al qaeda has grown. on the other hand, we're top intelligence officials saying that al qaeda could rebuild in a year in afghanistan. and then we have people like lindsey graham insisting the country is on the cusp of a civil war. give us

this week is the stress test for that proposition. >>> joining us now is congresswoman pramila jayapal, chair of the progressive caucus. congresswoman jayapal, you are at the center of this storm. thank you for being here. >> great to see you as always. rachel. >> what happened tonight in the democratic caucus meeting. i know you won't tell us all of it, but what can you tell us is the news out of that closed door session. >> i think it's important at those caucus meetings, people want to be heard. there's a lot of people saying how they feel, and i think that what i got out of it is we need to pass both bills just like you described, and it was really important when you said delay means death. i think this is something that people need to understand. we're already at the end of september. and if there is any piece of this reconciliation bill that isn't agreed to by the senate and the house and if that delay goes on and on as it does here when you don't have urgency, when you don't have a deadline, when you don't have a reason for momentum, this thing is dead. and, you know, and i thin

remember, the progressive caucus chair, pramila jayapal, has said at least half her members are prepared to hold firm and vote no. as of right now that appears to be unchanged even though the leadership here in the house continues to say there will be a vote at some point tonight. wolf? >> we'll stand by for that, ryan, we'll have you back in just a few moments. right now i want to go to our chief white house correspondent kaitlan collins. kaitlan, amid all the wrangling on capitol hill, what is president biden doing tonight? >> reporter: he's been here at the white house, wolf, of course they said he essentially cleared his schedule so he could be in touch with those white house aides that ryan just noted are up in speaker pelosi's office on capitol hill right now. she is trying to solve this democratic stalemate over his domestic agenda. we're told by a senior administration official that the president has spoken with speaker pelosi this afternoon to give him an update on what the latest has been because they are at this standoff between those progressives that ryan just mentioned are

the bill congress woman pramila jayapal is now calling the small infrastructure bill is not the largest infrastructure bill in history, and has already passed the senate with a bike artisan vote. this afternoon senator bernie saners feature to read a statement with ten other democratic senators saying we . the ten democratic senator joining is kirsten gillbrand senator, mazie hirono, senator ed markey, senator alex padilla, senator tina smith, senator jeff merkley, brian schatz,. that written statement of the senators reminded all the democrats in congress of the original deal that all of the democrats and congress agreed to at the beginning of the legislative process earlier this summer. >> leading off our discussion tonight is someone who was in the room with the president today, democratic congresswoman suzan delbene of the state of washington, she is the vice chair of the house winds and means committee. congresswoman suzan delbene, thank you very much for joining us. you have the floor. you can just tell us word for word everything joe biden said. everything everyone in the room sa

senator amy klobuchar, and congresswoman pramila jayapal, join me on the fight ahead. then, we're going to have to convince the public white officials why they should be empowered in a house like. this >> trump's first fda commissioner on what went so long at the covid response, and how to get it right the next time. he joins me live tonight. plus >> this is real. it is not made up, there's nobody here that engages in fantasies. >> it wasn't true and the trump can pay knew it. the truth about the election lies, in all in starts right now. >> good evening from new york i'm chris hayes, the president of the united states met with democratic legislators today in a attempt to pull off what would honestly be the most incredible act of legislative sorcery since president lyndon b. johnson laid out his agenda for a great society in the 19 sixties. introduced a set of domestic programs to do things that could eliminate poverty, and racial injustice. of course he did that with large majorities. large majorities, joe biden doesn't have. joe biden right now is trying to do that h

our chairwoman pramila jayapal had a phone call and a conversation with sinema and we don't be closelyonitoring the work that the speaker, the majority leader and the white house is doing in bringing progress and bringing progress on these bills. what we are waiting for is what is it that they are interested in seeing changed so that we can move this legislation forward. >> so what are you willing to compromise on? i'm going to -- how much lower than $3.5 trillion and so on. but what are you willing to compromise on? >> what we are looking to do is to deliver on behalf of our constituents in regards to climate change, to deliver on drug pricing, to deliver on child care, and to deliver on fair taxation. how far they are willing to go on that is something that we are willing to have a conversation on. it's been talked about quite a lot in our caucus and with the senators just how much of a significant progress and investment we want to make in these areas. and we continue to wait to hear what kind of significant changes and investments they're willing to make in their constituents' live

. >> pramila jayapal said she will vote against this with half of her caucus if it has not passed congress by then. >> we'll all cross these bridges when we come to them. this is called the legislative process. >> division in the democratic ranks, centered around a $3.5 trillion budget plan. liberals are holding the bipartisan infrastructure plan hostage in order to get that giant budget bill passed. the problem some members of their own party say that price tag, $3.5 trillion, is too high. all of this as the white house faces yet another, a potential of an economic problem, the house voting to avoid a government shutdown and increase the borrowing limit, doesn't have the votes in the senate, which means the democrats may be forced to act alone to avoid a debt crisis. that would be bad. cnn congressional correspondent lauren fox and white house correspondent jeremy diamond are following all of this this morning. on the hill what's happening? i mean, is there a way to a deal here. there is a case of friendly fire. democrats versus democrats. is there a path out of this? >> reporter: well, t

that was representative pramila jayapal. she is the chairwoman of the progressive caucus for the democrats essentially standing firm that if a vote happens on the bipartisan infrastructure bill today in the house, she says the votes aren't there from her caucus. she is demanding that there is a reconciliation bill passed by both chambers before they are willing to vote yes on the bipartisan infrastructure bill. let me bring in cnn's lauren fox on capitol hill and kaitlan collins at the white house. i don't know where this leaves us, lauren, because how can there be a vote today if they aren't there? >> digging in here, ana, i think one thing that was very notable about this press conference that was just held with the progressives is that jayapal is coming just a little bit over an hour after manchin revealed that 1.5 trillion is his top line. also a document circulating that cnn has confirmed the authenticity of that included a lot of details about what manchin would accept when it came to climate change, when it came to ta

with me now congresswoman pramila jayapal of washington, chair of the congressional progressive caucus. i have to say, congresswoman, what has perplexed me the most about this fight is that having, you know, been around democrats and, you know, been a democrat and sort of observed democrats in the wild for a really long time, my presumption always was that i understood what democrats were for in general. i want to put back up what's in the build back better proposal. because i think what nancy pelosi said today about this being the culmination of basically why she is a democrat, this is over ten years, paid family leave, universal pre-k, free community college, child care reforms, extended tax credits, climate change provisions, medicare expansion. when you combine that with what's in the other bill, the roads and bridges, the high speed, et cetera, the two of those things together strike me as what democrats are generally always for. number one, why were the bills split up in the first place? and do you now think it was mistake? because the combined some of those two things is what i

and today, progressive pramila jayapal and others made clear that they're not budging. made clear he's not budging. how does this get resolved? >> it's an excellent question. nobody has the answer to that, yet. though, every democratic leader today, from nancy pelosi, chuck schumer, president biden, as you mentioned, pramila jayapal, josh gottheimer, everyone is sort of putting on the face of, hey, we're going to get there. nothing to see here. this is just a legislative process but we are going to get all these things done and yet nobody actually has the roadmap, yet, of how that is going to get done. they are -- these wings of the democratic party are diametrically opposed right now. as you said, progressives have said -- enough of them anyway -- remember, we are dealing with the closest margins you have seen in congress in our lifetime, john. so progressives have said we are not voting on the bipartisan infrastructure package. you will get no votes from us. we will sink that bill unless we have an agreement on this larger spending plan because you promised us, nancy

remember, they wanted $6 trillion when they initially started this process, and congresswoman pramila jayapalive negotiator. she just left a meeting in house speaker nancy pelosi's office and this is how she responded to joe manchin's top line number. >> can that be done with a $1.5 trillion reconciliation package? >> well, look, there's no number. i don't have a number. i don't have a number. >> that's the number that manchin -- >> that's what he tells you. that's not what ultimately is going to be the package. >> that's what he told speaker schumer. >> i don't have an offer in front of me. my number is $3.5 trillion. you don't negotiate against you yourself. if you go to buy a house, you don't put down an offer and then suddenly say, okay, i'm willing to go down another $100,000. anybody done that? i don't think so. that's not how he negotiate. >> what you hear the congresswoman say is they're not negotiating directly. it's being done through the white house and also being done through the leadership and the house and senate and so either side is really unmoved in this process, and that mea

the chair of that caucus, the progressive caucus pramila jayapal saying 60 democrats are prepared to vote against the infrastructure plan. >> i have confidence in our speaker, our majority leader as well as our wit that when that bill does come to the floor it will have the votes and i think this discussion is continuing to be had with the democratic caucus. we are extremely diverse caucus and i think that's what makes us democrats but the other thing is we do have a shared set of values about supporting the american people and so we are willing to sit down with one another and have these discussions unlikethe republicans who have entrenched themselves in one position , have fractures within their own and are only , their only truth is retaining power. the fact that we've had transparent discussions about what has been our issues on the house side i think when you see the bill comes to the floor it's because that's a place where democrats are comfortablewith the legislation . what comes next, the process and how we will move forward and we will vote yes on the bipartisan infrastructu

washington congress member pramila jayapal tweeted it's not the infrastructure bill, then maybe the build back better package down the road. we're going to deliver the entire build back better agenda. >> observing the right to object -- >> reporter: republicans blocked an attempt to raise the debt ceiling for the second straight day. treasury secretary janet yellen warned of dire consequences if it's not raised by october 18th. >> and our country would likely face a financial crisis and economic recession as a result. >> reporter: a more urgent deadline, 800,000 federal workers will be furloughed on friday if congress doesn't pass a measure to fund the government. >> it's extremely nerve-racking. >> reporter: the watersons had to rely on food stamps to get by during the last shutdown. t think what's the most secure job than with the federal government? >> reporter: democrats are planning to vote on a funding bill today. the last congressional stalemate lasted 35 days between 2018 and 2019. it was the longest shutdown in history. anne-marie? >> wow. laura podesta in new york. thank you so

as we're at this table right now though, she is meeting with pramila jayapal, the leader of the progressives and several moderate democrats including stephanie murphy. they are all in her office right now together so i think a lot of us are hoping that if anything does change it will come after this meeting and that's what we're waiting to see. that and whatever joe manchin says at his press conference. >> i think heather said something real important which is after they fund the resolution to keep the government going, that's really important. why would you throw blood in the water for republicans who are still going, you know, amendment by amendment in the senate now and then it goes to the house, like they only have until midnight. it's a failure for both parties but particularly the democrats in charge if the government were to shut down. she's got to get order of business number one off the table and out of the way first before she pulls the bill or a miracle materializes. >> solve one problem and then move on to the other problem. you could solve that problem if you could at least reac

a leading house progressive washington represent pramila jayapal will also be here. can the president do a better job of handling crises that are avoidable? we'll get some analysis from john dicertional agenda, as the president promises a new era of relentless diplomacy, we'll talk with scott morrison and turkish prime minister ra recep tayyip erdogan. it's all ahead on "face the nation." ♪ >> brennan: good morning, and welcome to "face the nation." messy and confusing is how the "wall street journal"'s editorial board characterized the biden administration's booster vaccine plan late last week. but they praised c.d.c. director rochelle walensky for the right outcome. this is a reference to her decision to include frontline workers with a high risk of exposure among those who are now eligible to receive pfizer booster shots. along with adults with underlying conditions and those who are 65 and over. we go now to the c.d.c. director, dr. rochelle walensky. she is in newton, massachusetts. good morning to you. >> good morning, margaret. thanks for having me. >> brennan

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neil: one of the startling things, we came in a little bit late, you been listening to pramila jayapal who runs the aggressive caucus and also serving on the aggressive caucus. to the progressives that don't want to budge too much were not too pleased by this revelation that joe manchin has put a number to what he thinks is impassable and doable in his eyes, that is not three and half trillion, more like one and a half trillion dollars, it's interesting to point out that if things stand out, neither of these progressives are on board with voting on infrastructure only package until the reconciliation package is nailed down on the senate and the house, it also goes by the social policy reconciliation and three and half trillion dollar plan in the bill back better package. right now, these women see it speaking for the progressive caucus and quite a few members representing that they cannot and do not plan to vote on this infrastructure package slated today until this other stuff is resolved. again, miraculous things can happen, i want to go to chad pergram on where this stands right now

speaker pelosi says that vote is going to go ahead, we just had pramila jayapal saying the votes areot there. alix: walk me through that. nancy pelosi rarely calls a vote to the floor if she doesn't have the votes. there is rhetoric -- i should point out this is for the $1.2 trillion infrastructure plan. that is not the $3.5 trillion. will progressives torpedo this or will pelosi bring it to the floor to put heat on the progressives? annmarie: we have to see what she ends up doing. she could still pull the vote. as a speaker of the house she has that jurisdiction. we heard from steny hoyer when he was asked if he was confident in is going to get the votes. he replied simply with a nope. if it gets voted down it does not mean the bill is dead in the water. but it would ignite some of the pressure on the moderates in the party, especially in the senate, which they are waiting to negotiate this deal. senator joe manchin, senator kyrsten sinema that the progressives think -- progressives mean is this. we do have a leak memo from senator manchin outlining what he wants. some of that was t

well, let's have a listen to what pramila jayapal said on cnn moments ago. >> we're ready to vote forfor both but we need to actually get the reconciliation deal done. i don't believe there will be a vote. >> you don't think there's going to be a vote tomorrow? >> the speaker is an incredibly good vote counter and she knows where her caucus is. >> the votes aren't there? >> the votes aren't there. >> eugene, the votes aren't there for a vote tomorrow but the votes aren't there permanently. >> >> pramila jayapal is the one that's being realistic. we all know nancy pelosi knows exactly what she's doing. she's pulled rabbits out of her hat at the last minute many times over the years. it's hard to see stopping a government shutdown, how they're going to get this done, right? something that's important to remember is progressives are the folks who are leading with what it was at the beginning, which was there was supposed to be a two track way to do these two bills. they were supposed to move in tandem. moderates are the ones that changed the gateway. that's something folks in the white h

our chair woman, pramila jayapal, had a phone call and a conversation with sinema. what we are waiting for is what is it that they are interested in seeing changed so that we can move this legislation forward. >> evan, simple question. is the president going to be able to pull this off? >> well, we're starting to see some of the kicking beneath the surface of the water begin to reveal itself. yeah, we're into the horse trading phase now, don. it's pretty clear that people are starting to put numbers on the table. one of the big questions, and this is what the chair of the cook progressive caucus indicated earlier in the week was that, look, this is going to come down to how many people can be covered by these changes, how long will they be in effect? will they be a few years, will they be permanent? that's exactly the process they had to get to. biden has been sort of calm about this trying to say it's not a five-alarm fire, but the stakes are enormous. at this point the body language you heard from everybody has changed from where it was a few days ago where there

senator amy klobuchar, and congresswoman pramila jayapal, join me on the fight ahead.going to have to convince the public white officials why they should be empowered in a house like. this >> trump's first fda commissioner on what went so long at the covid response, and how to get it right the next time. he joins me live tonight. plus >> this is real. it is not made up, there's nobody here that engages in fantasies. >> it wasn't true and the trump can pay knew it. the truth about the election lies, in all in starts right now. >> good evening from new york i'm chris hayes, the president of the united states met with democratic legislators today in a attempt to pull off what would honestly be the most

that's what progressives are saying including pramila jayapal this morning. take a listen. >> they need to come up with what they want, and then that negotiation starts. so far we've gone through the entire house, with committees, working with the white house, parts of the build back better agenda. >> here's the reality, chris. every everyone on the democrat image sight. . it would be a shame to loose this opportunity to a many significant change. nefrms, the boeing f should bchlt he managed to bridge the divide. but yesterday he was trying to bridge his own party. you have tight margins. >> monica. that was one of the key point hi's made. i've built these relationships, reached across the aisle. you've got police reform talk falling through. how devastating would it be if the president lost key parts of his agenda because of intrapartner taking part? >> it hinges on what comes out of the next couple of weeks. they are absolutely worried and that's why they brought in the president essentiality to part dealmaker, part choers in all of the meetings that spanne

the chair of the progressive caucus, congressmember pramila jayapal, issued a statement that -- "thisagenda is not some fringe wish list. it is the president's agenda, the democratic agenda, and what we all promised voters when they delivered us the house, senate and white house." activists from people's watch and sunrise movement are demonstrating in d.c. this week to pressure house speaker pelosi and democrats to pass the measure through reconciliation. a flotilla of activists took to kayaks and electric boats to demonstrate near senator joe manchin's houseboat in d.c., demanding, "don't sink our bill." others confronted pelosi tuesday night as she headed into a fundraiser. >> antipode lucy, will you hold the line on the reconciliation bill, for climate justice, for california? amy: meanwhile, president biden met tuesday with conservative democratic senators kyrsten sinema and joe manchin, who receive major donations from financial institutions, fossil fuel companies, and other industries that oppose the spending package. we begin with david dayen, executive editor of the american p

pramila jayapal told me earlier today that she feels as though moderates have backed out of this original deal that put both of these pieces of legislation on a dual track with the idea that democrats were going to pass them together. i just caught up with senator manchin a few minutes ago and asked him that specifically. did you back out of a deal that was originally hatched a couple of weeks ago for both of these pieces of legislation to be passed at the same time? he said he was never a part of that deal. he never saw the deal ahead of time and that deal was made without his knowledge. that's important, jake, because it shows that not everyone is singing from the same playbook, so to speak. they are not all on the page as it comes to negotiations. like senator manchin told manu earlier today and reiterated to me that there's no chance that there will be any kind of framework around this reconciliation package in time for that vote tomorrow. it's just not going to happen. so it seems very difficult to come up with a scenario by which you'll have everything in place for that vote to take

joining us n is democratic congressman pramila jayapal of washington state.she is the chair of the washgton congressional congress. ere is frustration breing out in the congress with senator sanders, with other members and right here at thisesk that i am sitting at in trying to figure out what is going on with senator manchin and senator kyrsten nema. do you have more insight into this? >> well, lawrence, it is great to see you. i will start by saying the position of the caucus. we are 96-member strong caucus, has been for three and a half months that we are not going to move one piece of the president's agenda without the much bigger piece of the president's agenda. and i just want to take you back just for a moment to five months ago, august 2th, 2021. what happened on that night, lawrence, is president biden came out of the white hoe. he went down pennsylvania avenue. he came to the capital, and he delivered a speech. he delivered a sech to congress. i happen to be one of the few that was invited to that speec because it was covid times and not all of us c

pramila. >>> jayapal.re was a promised deadline to vote on the bipartisan infrastructure bill that's day s away. congresswoman jayapal will join "morning joe" later to discuss the meeting. >>> joining us now is jake sherman, an msnbc contributor and a reporter for politico. what progress was made yesterday between president biden and various democrats. >> well, jon, they're talking. there's a lot to go over here. they're on different pages on nearly everything including the topline number. as you know, $3.5 trillion is the number they're working off. that will have to be paired bag to something smaller. they didn't make any progress on that. and there's also a ton of policies outstanding when it comes to reconciliation andmedi. so just a whole host of issues. as you noted, there's this infrastructure vote on monday, and progressives are threatening to bring it down to vote against it in order to maintain their leverage on the larger package. this is typical capitol behavior. it's not unusual. they will vot

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no names here, but pramila jayapal heads the progressives, and as dana notes, she says we're not the problem. >> anyone that doesn't want to vote for the build back better plan is, frankly, halting the promises that we made to voters when they elected us. other people are willing to crack the entire agenda by refusing to come together on the reckon sionciliation bill. >> crash the entire -- you get it given these people were elected on a bold agenda. they don't understand, my district is different, or my state is different. i can't win again if i do that. >> the problem is it takes only three democrats in the house and one democrat in the senate to derail any of this, and there is a huge trust deficit, as everyone has said, so i think everyone is hoping that biden is the one who can bridge this deficit and say, here's what they're going to do, here's what you guys are going to do, let's jump off this bridge and do it together. leadership pelosi and chuck schumer to their credit have tried everything i think they can try and nothing has worked, so this is kind of their last hope befor

congress, about 100 members from -- pramila jayapal has that. they're not necessarily the people that supported biden as a candidate but they are his fiercest offenders right now when it comes back to this bill and saying if you don't support this now, it is going to fall by the wayside and instead roads and bridges will be paved -- pay for but not all the other stuff that benefits the vast majority of people in this country. >> and roads and bridges and most of that mon will go to the corporations and the people know that. manchin what's bridges but does not want to help the 350,000 people in his own state who make less than $15 an hour, the people we have met with in the state who were protesting were poor and the wealth from appalachia. jamila piped -- privilege i paul and barbara the and others have come to the rescue and their raising the right issues that this is not about the normal washington, d.c. moments. we are in the middle of covid, a pandemic where hundreds of thousands of pple have died and this covid has exposed the fishers of po

reaction right now from the chair of the congressional progressive caucus, democratic congresswoman pramila jayapaluch for joining us. your fellow progressive congresswoman rashida tlaib says speaker pelosi's move to separate these two bills, vote on the infrastructure bill on thursday, and rashida tlaib's words, is a betrayal. is that how you would describe it as well, a betrayal? >> thank yous for having me on. i have been working closely with the speaker over the last several days, several months. and the speaker is really clear that we have to deliver both these bills. she is also very clear that if the bipartisan infrastructure bill comes up for a vote, that it would fail. we have been clear that our members need to deliver the entirety of the president's agenda. and frankly, we have 96% of all the democrats in the house and the senate who agree with us that we're ready to go forward on the bill as it's written, the build back better agenda and the infrastructure bill, and there's 4% of the democratic caucus that is saying they don't like it. but let's be clear, this is an agenda that is the p

in fact, we caught up with the progressive leader, pramila jayapal of washington state. she is the leader of the progressive caucus. we asked her for her read on the manchin statement. and this is what she said. >> i can tell you that his statement has just probably created at least a bunch more votes on the house floor against the bipartisan bill. >> so that's jayapal saying the manchin statement allows her to corral even more progressives to hold firm and not vote yes tomorrow. so that leaves the ball in the court of the house speaker, nancy pelosi. will she delay this vote? will she just return back here to capitol hill from the white house, she told reporters that as of right now, it is still the plan to vote on the bipartisan infrastructure bill tomorrow. the big question is, where will the votes come to make it happen? and we should also point out, wolf, that this -- these negotiations, these intense negotiations over the bipartisan infrastructure bill and the reconciliation package, they come amidst two big issues the congress still has to deal with. that's the fu