when we miss public health england?ic health england need our thanks, and one of the things that i was very pleased with the secretary of state, matt hancock, acknowledged it was the excellent work was that excellent work that the people have been doing in the commitment to that staff that he very much sees them as forming pa rt he very much sees them as forming part of the new agency. so i think without the people, the organisation would not succeed. so i'm delighted that the secretary of state was so strong in his messages of support for the public health workforce. how sensible is it to attempt this kind of reorganisation in the middle of a global pandemic? i think that's the sort of thing, rebecca, that we are all scratching our heads a little bit about. because i know as part of the academy of royal medical colleges we don't ask the government to do colleges we don't ask the government todoa colleges we don't ask the government to do a rabbit analysis and to look forward. —— rapid analysis. and have them engage dir

series which is a coproduction of the george washington universities milken institute school of public health and the school of media and public affairs where i hang out. we are talking to amazing people on the front lines of this pandemic, getting there insight, knowledge and experience how we survive it. to date a very special opportunity to talk with dr. anthony fauci, director of d.c. he's been director since 1984 and does work with six president on some of the most difficult, challenging health crises to confront humanity, hiv/aids, ebola, zika, larry, tuberculosis but probably nothing as dangerous, disruptive and as it turns out divisive as covid-19. which is a speak has claimed more than 175,000 lives in the united states alone, . tony fauci is a scientist and doctor, researcher, immunologist and i should say i first covered and interviewed him when i was a white house correspondent for cnn back in the 1980s in hiv/aids was exploding, just first on the scene. as one of the first to see the threat, dedicate himself and resources to research and the medicine get to control it, and now co

when we are done, we will be joined by the school of public health and the director of the school of public affairs to build on your comments, but i want to die right in. we got 100 questions from faculty and students. i'm going to do my best to weave those in. i saw a story the other day about boston. the pandemic you just referenced. the headline haunted me. the headline said, boston refused to close schools during the 1918 flu. then children began to die. his history about to repeat itself as we had -- is history about to repeat itself as we head to the school season? >> if you look at the situation with regards to the current clearly haveldren much less of a chance of having a serious outcome when you look at hospitalization rates per hundred thousand than adults. if you look at the graph, it literally gradually goes up until you get a very high among theation rate elderly. age is an issue. however, we should not neglect the fact that children can get .eriously ill much less likelihood than the adults. there are other syndromes we are just starting to see, inflammatory syndromes t

>> commissioner walton: yes. >> chair fewer: i do have one question for public health. on the committee meeting of february 2019ing the contract for westside community mental health center came before us. and we had much discussion on it. westside community health center is the main provider of mental health services for the african-american community in the fillmore district. the westside community mental health center -- the b.l.a. had questions about it. because actually it didn't meet a lotter it wasn't scoring very high actually on the standards and the metrics of the standards. so the answer to that was that public health said we will then lower the amount of patients that they will see, in order -- lower their case load to meet their ability to, knowing we had great need for mental health services for african-americans in san francisco. knowing that this is a mental -- there are always 100% of their population that they serve are african-americans. and also they serve adult and youth and there is not another service in that area or perhaps even on the west side th

and yet the local public health teams and public health in and could do this, and could do the same muchmuch more confident that the government is playing its part and has a coherent testing strategy, which it does not have, that the test results are interpretable, which they are not for the moment, and that they are putting in the necessary public health and primary ca re measures. necessary public health and primary care measures. this is what government should be doing and then we would not need to see these trade—offs as they are called. this isa trade—offs as they are called. this is a diversion and we are in danger of going down a rabbit warren here. and why would the government not do, as you say, if it makes such clear sense to give this task to local public health departments, why is it not doing so? well, this is quite extraordinary because matt hancock could do this at the stroke of a pen. he has the powers to do this, he can actually delegate that to local public health departments and build up the capacity. that is exactly what happened in germany, which is why they have onl

our public health infrastructure.to really provide the contact tracing so that we know when we are getting ready to have an outbreak. that is so critical. until we have therapies our vaccination or heaven forbid we live long enough for immunities. my campuses bring about a lot and that is, to disproportionate burden. we brought this to our communities of color, hard workers who provide care for all of us every day in terms of industries in the service industries. the whole 9 yards. and people who live in multigenerational homes do not have the privilege of social distancing. i think if there is one really big way think that i hope our patient sees, that this panic more than any else, as americans living in this country and the disparities that we have read this what i worry about. i think we should all be worrying about the disparities. self-care. so the fair disease. we need to be aware of that and focus on those disparities in a really proactive way. host: that is so important . that is such a vital part of this. >>

public health england been a scapegoat do you think? ng that has made many m ista kes but public outing that has made many mistakes over the last few months during this pandemic. —— public health angle. creating a body that is focused on outbreak and control and infectious diseases is i think the correct way forward. public health angle has got many other priorities such as smoking, alcohol, mental health, but i think in the current crisis need a body that is focused very much on one issue. the current covid—19 pandemic. —— public health england. matt hancock said the new national institute for health protection will report directly to ministers. but i thought public health england did that? that is the case. php reports to ministers. in the case of this new body, it will bring together many aspects that are currently fragmented across various bodies of communities such as sage, phd, various other community. it will bring them together i think and create better accountability and allow better planning as we move forward and try to contro

public health england's mission is to protect and improve the nation's health. as pandemics. but now the government has decided to abolish it, effectively accusing it of mishandling the coronavirus crisis. in its place, a new agency has been set up. to give ourselves the best chance of beating this virus, and of spotting and tackling other external health threats now and in the future, we need to bring together the science and the scale into one coherent whole. so today i am announcing that we are forming a new organisation, the national institute for health protection. the government criticism of public health england includes claims it failed to ramp up testing capacity quickly enough. at that time, the decisions were being made by government, not pha. this sparking accusations that government has tried to shift the blame for m ista kes tried to shift the blame for mistakes made early on in the coronavirus crisis. most people working in public health in the uk believe very strongly that what is happening to public health england is scapegoating by ministers fo

many of us and masters in public health program here at george washington university work in public healthnd many of us are faced with situations in this pandemic to test our ethics, education, and training. my question to you, dr. fauci, from this student, how do you maintain your ethics and values during such a challenging political climate? dr. fauci: you know i have to , tell you, it is very easy. [laughter] because you don't change your ethics because of the situation you are in. there are certain things that are constant. science, data and really good evidence are constant. if the situation changes, the data may change and you make a decision. what does not change are ethical principles. they are clear and immutable. mr. sesno: a lightning round and you are done. just to show there is humanity, here is a question. what was scarier for you, testifying before congress or throwing out the first pitch? dr. fauci: unquestionably going out the first pitch. mr. sesno: as you look forward and think about the immense challenges we have got amid this environment, political environments, now ca

communication is key in a public health response. kfully we have an incredible team of people doing this work every single day. one hundred eighty five million for health operations is a lot of money. it's important to understand in the context of all the things that we're doing as a city. we're talking about testing, ppe, surge capacity, preparations, contact tracing, community out reach, out break mitigations and everything else required to fight this virus and keep our re residents safe. we have massively expanded our food distribution to people in the si city and will continue to this for as long as needed. keep people fed and increase sanitation conditions on the streets. pit stops we chose to expand city wide for an additional $16 million. as you can see from the slide, this is a significant investment. in short term options to keep people off the street. continuing to fund hotel rooms and shelter in place. we also know we need more housing for people which is why this all feeds into our homeless recovery plan to create six thou

our way forward must include more consistent mandatory funding for public health and include a greater emphasis on public/private partnerships. the nation is better prepared with government and private sector working together for preparedness. i welcome the opportunity to work with fellow panelists, the congress and all other stakeholders to improve the sns in our public health preparedness. thank you for the opportunity anding participating today. >> no doubt that we're going to have to provide more funding for the teaching national stockpile but the first step and incredibly important first step is it needs a mission statement designed and codified and articulated clearly. the om one we find is on hhs website. i'll read current mission statement for the sns. stra teefk national stockpiles role, supplement state and local supplies during public health emergencies. many states have stockpiled, had product stockpiled as well. not sure that's really true. supplies, medicines and devices for life-saving care contained in the stockpile can be used as a short-term stop gap buff whir the imm

the latest installment, however, when public health is in business. dr. fauci, welcome. >> thank you, sanjay. great to be here. thank you for having me. >> i've got to -- so much to ask you. every time we get together and you're so generous with your time when i call and i appreciate that. there's so much that people want to flknow. let me ask, how are you doing? i know it's been a very long six months. you've been doing amazing work. tirelessly. how are you? >> you know, in general, sanjay, i'm fine. i'm adjusted to the chronic exhaustion. i think one of the good things about having done my internship and residency during a period of time when we were on every other night and every other weekend before those rules were changed, i think this is my internship on steroids here. so -- i'm doing fine. so i can't complain. i think the energy and the adrenaline rush and the focus comes from what you said, the importance of the problem and what the president said this is a historic situation we're facing. so we just got to focus in on our jobs and worry about re

public health. i've got some grandkids. i want them to go back to school. for their own health, they need to do that. you have grandchildren, you would like to see that happen as well. would you like to comment on the other part of this again, the unintended consequences of the problems with child abuse that's not being reported because most of it -- a lot of it is reported by teachers? we've seen that go down. we've seen emergency cases and emergency rooms go up as a result of this. can you comment on some of that, please? >> congressman, thank you. i want to emphasize -- because i don't think i can emphasize it enough. as the leading public health agency in the world, it is in the public health interest that these k-12 students to get these schools back open for face-to-face learning. mental health service, 7.1 million get it in school. nutrition, we talked about. reporting of child abuse, sexual abuse, mandatory in schools. the isolation that these adolescence are feeling that now is associated with increase as you mentioned, increase drug overdose deaths

charity dean used to be second in command at the california department of public health.in 18 states who have designed, retired or been fired since the pandemic began amid unprecedented political and unprecedented pressure. >> imagine if people showed up at the home of a fire chief to protest the way they're managing a fire. that sounds ridiculous. that's what's happening to local public health officers as they struggle to do their job based on science. >> i'm lori from north central washington. >> i'm emily in south central, caca. >> i'm donna in san antonio. >> i'm barbara ferrer, l.a. county. >> reporter: we brought together a group of current and former public health officials. show of hands. how many of you got into this job for the money? >> that's a joke. >> reporter: lori jones has been a community health director in rural washington for 17 years. >> reporter: is the way you're being treated right now different than anything you've experienced in your career? >> absolutely. completely different. >> i started to hear about how other colleagues that were working in

certainly this goes against public health advice. i certainly wouldn't recommend people working out inside enclosed quarters at this time. >> thank you, dr. colfax. there are no further questions at this time, and this concludes today's press conference. thank you, madam mayor, assessor chu and dr. colfax for your time, and thank you everyone for joining us. ♪ ♪ >> good afternoon, welcome to the land use and transportation committee of the san francisco board of supervisors for today, monday, august 24, 2020. i am the chair, aaron peskin, joined by supervisor dean preston. miss clerk, do you have any announcements? >> yes, due to the covid-19 health emergency and protect board members, city employees and the public, the board of supervisors legislative chamber and committee room are closed. however, members will be participating in the meeting remotely. this precaution to the state stay-at-home order order, all local and state and federal declarations and directives. attend during video conference and participate to the same extent a

service to this company mr let's just bring in schools and because both the public health agency of sweden and the finnish institute for health and welfare did a recent study over the school should open and close those you said you've tried to reopen finland actually closed down i mean what were the findings what's that what what were the findings of that report in terms of whether it is a good idea to open or close schools during this pandemic because it is a hot topic not just in europe but in north america at the moment and in many parts of asia as we get towards september when the new school term and university terms open and start made i think every country has to speak for their own decisions being made or not made but in sweden we didn't find that necessary to close down the preschool and the primary school because we needed to have an open and we turn and find in the science show and the knowledge about the virus that the children and the very young persons will drive the infection. but we close down or we said that the secondary school and the universities and the other learning s

public health england's mission is to protect and improve the nation's health.ent has decided to abolish it, effectively accusing it of mishandling the coronavirus crisis. in its place, a new agency has been set up. to give ourselves the best chance of beating this virus, and of spotting and tackling other external health threats now and in the future, we need to bring together the science and the scale into one coherent whole. so today i am announcing that we are forming a new organisation, the national institute for health protection. the government criticism of public health england, or phe, includes claims it failed to ramp up testing capacity quickly enough. but, at that time, the decisions were being made by government, not phe. this sparking accusations that government has tried to shift the blame for mistakes made early on in the coronavirus crisis. most people working in public health in the uk believe very strongly that what is happening to public health england is scapegoating by ministers for mistakes which probably were not the responsibility of pub

this is not public health versus the economy but public health decision versus public health decision. let's open the schools, that is what he said. i am keenly aware of the risk-benefit decisions. we often prescribe medications with significant and even deadly side effects. we way the benefit to the drug with those risks and we make a decision, many times to get the drug because the chance is good that a good outcome outweighs a bad. everyone listening to me has done just that. kill. and toxicity can the risk to students being out of school, risk of suicide and child abuse, loss of mental health counseling, loss of school nurses providing a degree of help, all will produce greater harm to our children who will be harmed by covid-19. the argument for adults, 33,800 additionaldead, 77,000 suicides, massive increases in cardiac arrests, may or may not allen's the loss due to covid. make, irder to completely agree. is undeniablethat and un-debatable. harm todo far more children than we ever would letting them return to the classroom with social distancing, etc., and while protecting teac

health and social care has neither confirmed nor denied reports that there's to be a shake—up of public health new body called the institute for health protection. the department of health says it's important to "learn the right lessons" from coronavirus for the future. earlier i spoke to professorjohn ashton, who is a former regional director of public health in the north west of england. i asked him if he thinks public health england has been a failure. i think the fact that public health england is in the line of fire is no surprise to those of us who are familiar with this territory. i mean, we were very excited when it was created in 2013 but it has not lived up to its promise. it has made a whole series of bad mistakes over the last seven years, and it really has had a very poor pandemic, but it is not alone in that. and, you know, we're seeing now the scapegoating of all sorts of organisations. you know, you don't deal with the problem of than overcentralised, dysfunctional organisation by creating another overcentralised, dysfunctional organisation, which is what's being proposed. so t

again, the public health, resolving the public health crisis has to be the priority.ppens, opening schools, fully opening the economy is not feasible. we need to get the public health crisis under control to protect our children, protect our families, and protect the workforce. melissa, should there be an national or governmental strategy, or should child care become a governmental responsibility in the united states, looking at the whole problem long-term? guest: i think child care should be a public good, and that can lot like different things, but we need to have that structure in place to create an equitable system. a range of ways that children can be cared for in loving, supportive and high quality settings. the national women's law center, i worked with 29 other organizations across a range of state orders to come up with principles for what a system looks like. it means that we are investing in the workforce. it means that we are offering culturally competent care and brain science. it is accessible and affordable for parents. so any system that we built -- an

trust is critical to public health. i mean, without trust, you don't have public health.y that we all trust the message and we know as much as possible what that message is. in march — sorry to interrupt. in march of this year, trust at the very beginning of the crisis amongst the british public in their government was measured at 72% in an average of polls. in latejune, that is just what three months later, it had plummeted to 44%. yeah. what does that tell us? it tells us that trust was lost. i mean, those figures are very clear. that's a public health disaster. it is. trust lies at the heart of public health and if you lose trust in, yes, the science or in the politicians or in the messages of that science, than the public doesn't know what to believe, what to trust and there's a cacophony of stories of whatever goes on. there has to be somewhere as a sort of guiding light of what that is. and the actions of people needs to be consistent with that trust. have we reached the limit, do you believe, of the easing of the restrictions on so—called normal life? because the c

communication is key in a public health response. thankfully we have an incredible team of people doing this work every single day. one hundred eighty five million for health operations is a lot of money. it's important to understand in the context of all the things that we're doing as a city. we're talking about testing, ppe, surge capacity, preparations, contact tracing, community out reach, out break mitigations and everything else required to fight this virus and keep our re residents safe. we have massively expanded our food distribution to people in the si city and will continue to this for as long as needed. keep people fed and increase sanitation conditions on the streets. pit stops we chose to expand city wide for an additional $16 million. as you can see from the slide, this is a significant investment. in short term options to keep people off the street. continuing to fund hotel rooms and shelter in place. we also know we need more housing for people which is why this all feeds into our homeless recovery plan to create six

public health history. dr. redfield is calling on americans to follow four simple steps. wear a mask, social distance, wash your hands and be smart about crowds. following that warning came this admission that we were underprepared. take a listen. >> we need to overinvest, get over prepared. i will say that in four, five decades of investment when this -- when the big one came, this is the greatest public health crisis to hit this nation in a century, that we were under prepared. we need to owe it to the children and grandchildren that this nation is never under prepared again for a public health crisis. >> just a short time ago a former head of the cdc warning if we don't control covid it will control us. and this just in to cnn, the coronavirus is taking a toll on the mental health of americans. a new report out from the cdc finds anxiety, depression and suicidal thoughts have worsened in the pandemic. cnn's jaclyn howard is joining us now. break this down for us. we knew that so many people were struggli

warning the public health emergency is quickly becoming a human rights crisis how many limitations are people willing to accept to fight a threat like coronavirus. i. canot roth welcome to conflict zone. thanks for having me. there are very immediate needs amid this coronavirus pandemic hundreds of thousands have already died a qana means have been hit hard many people are losing their jobs some are even trying to figure out how to put food on the table in these extraordinary times how do you put human rights at the top of the agenda. well i think it's important sara to note that human rights allow certain extraordinary governmental powers in time of a genuine public emergency or crisis like we're facing now so you know nobody objects from a human rights perspective to the efforts to limit our trouble to inforce social distancing to do the things that are necessary and proportionate to our public health needs but when autocrats say oh we need you does violate your human rights left and right in order to protect you that's a very dangerous message it's wrong not only as a matter of prin

public health officials say there may be further cases linked to the cluster.rvative mp and former minister has been bailed by the metropolitan police after being arrested on suspicion of rape. a former parliamentary employee has accused the mp of rape, sexual assault and coercive control. our political reporter tony bonsignore is here. what do we know? what we know is these allegations are againsta what we know is these allegations are against a current mp, a former minister and they were made by a former parliamentary employee. according to the sunday times, she alleges the mp assaulted her, forced her to have sex and left her so traumatised, she had to go to hospital. she is accusing him of rape, sexual assault and coercive control. we have had a statement from the metropolitan police and they say on friday the 31st ofjuly they say on friday the 31st ofjuly they received allegations relating to four separate incidents relating to four separate incidents relating to sexual offences and assault. these offences are alleged to have occurred at addresses in westm

communication is key in a public health response. thankfully we have an incredible team of people doing this work every single day. one hundred eighty five million for health operations is a lot of money. it's important to understand in the context of all the things that we're doing as a city. we're talking about testing, ppe, surge capacity, preparations, contact tracing, community out reach, out break mitigations and everything else required to fight this virus and keep our re residents safe. we have massively expanded our food distribution to people in the si city and will continue to this for as long as needed. keep people fed and increase sanitation conditions on the streets. pit stops we chose to expand city wide for an additional $16 million. as you can see from the slide, this is a significant investment. in short term options to keep people off the street. continuing to fund hotel rooms and shelter in place. we also know we need more housing for people which is why this all feeds into our homeless recovery plan to create six

i pressed the surgeon general on that very same question, i asked him as public health official what was his response was when he saw that photo. take a look. >> when i saw that picture, these are kids who don't understand they're not going to have a prom, they're not going to have a spring break if they don't em brabrace the role of t disease. a requirement depends on how you're going to enforce, and i think that's an important perspective that people don't think about, we talk about minority students being victims of over-enforcement. we don't need enforcement if people understand they'll benefit from doing the right thing. >> reporter: so basically he said he's not against mandating masks, the more effective measure to take would be to educate students why it's so important to wear the masks. this testing site that opened today, a quick look at the georgia numbers, when you talk about deaths in the state of georgia from covid-19, they're as high as they've ever been, on friday, georgia saw the highest number of single day, the highest edition of deaths from covid-19, 91 deaths add

i have been getting a briefing on average four times a week since march from a group of public healthxperts on the state of coronavirus and all aspects relating to it. again, whichtoday is the normal briefing i get with experts on the call, about a range of issues. we talked about school openings. we talked about a distribution of a vaccine if and when one arrives. we talked about the racial howarities that exist and covid-19 is affecting different races differently. and we talked about the continued lack of ppe protective equipment and testing capacity and the like. plan out a comprehensive over the last three months on each of these things. today i want to talk about one thing. doesn't have anything to do with democrats, republicans, or independents. it has to do with a single proposition. every single american should be wearing a mask when they are outside for the next three months at a minimum. every governor should mandate mandatory mask wearing. the estimates by the experts are it will save over 40,000 lives in the next three months. 40,000 lives. if people act responsibly. and

in which it's been mismanaged by the government that's causing us to protest the fact that the public health system is on its knees the fact that the government is doing precious nothing to provide safety nets for the informal sector bets hungry in the midst of this covert 1900 pandemic the fact that the government is doing nothing to address the concerns of the striking nurses the striking doctors the fact that instead of addressing the public health crisis like other responsible governments but government is using this is an excuse to clamp down you know and use this to to impose a de facto state of emergency that's the only reason why citizens are protesting so it's absolutely responsible for the opposition to protest in the midst of this blow right and. the guy you would think someone actually of our responsibility if we did everything any granted the government in zimbabwe has consistently accuse the opposition of being funded by western powers they say to destabilize your country does your party get any funding from outside donors. absolutely not i mean we've been running a consistent

director of public health or liverpool, matthew ashton, thank you. —— director of public health for the india has recorded more than 50,000 new coronavirus cases for the fourth consecutive day. 0verall, there's been 1.75 million cases and there are now fears the country could overtake the us and brazil to become the country with the highest number of infections. many states are imposing individual lockdowns for 15—day periods to help control the spread, but the indian government is stressing that mortality rates are low, at roughly 2%. earlier we spoke to dr ramanan laxminarayan. he's director of the centre for disease dynamics, economics & policy in delhi, and is advising various indian state governments on their covid response... there are basically two kinds of countries, basically one set that has the epidemic under control and the other set, like you've mentioned, brazil, mexico, the us and india, which don't. in india, it first started with places like delhi, which had an early rise of cases and then it's sort of starting to taper off in some of these places, but now there's a new

the executive director of the mark in public health association. good morning to you,ub sir. >> guest: good morning. how are you? >> host: i am doing well. could you start by reminding viewers what the america public health association is. >> guest: sure, thank you. you're the national nonprofit of people who practice public health and quite frankly, many of our people, the ones out chasing the virus each and every day. >> host: what role have you sought to play in the coronavirus pandemic?ht what is your group been doing? >> guest: we have been doing a lot of policymakers, the public, advocating for resources and generally trying to push in prohealth agenda based on science p. >> host: we found out yesterday the number of reported coronavirus cases in this country past the 5 million mark that is doubling of u.s. cases since the end of june and the last million happening in just the last venting days paid your reaction to that milestone. >> guest: the challenge is that a lot of this is preventable. we are not paying attention to what we know works.

and our public health officer are that if somebody test positive for covid-19 or believes they haveit, everybody that rkhas near that person in the same shift and same location of the facility needs to be told that they have come in con with somebody that's tested positive and th they arthen required to stay home and take time off of work. it does not mean we shut downth whole plant or even that every employee of the plant would be notified and our public health director says this is a case by case service. >> miguel, heyou have d from workers at some of those meatpacking plants, what are their concerns? >> that's one of the . imary concer one make meatpacking plant employs 2500 people under one roof, amazon employ3500 they only notify the person to the right and left of u you, are far too late to be able to contain the spread and that's the challenge we are eing, that's why ere's been such a big spread in those meet packing plants and processing facilities and it's really important for the general public to also be notified feof an ion spread in those locations so they also don't h

he has to put on a public health hat. he has to stop thinking about being a clinician in the office only without that we're not going to be able to get our arms around the virus. and i feel like he has not been able to shift his mind-set. and i think that's unfortunate. >> it's deflating to think of if that is the standpoint where this is all heading come the fall. i really -- it's -- i'm scared. dr. jaw, thank you. oh, go ahead. go ahead. >> i was just going to say, i think a lot of states are taking the lead here, so even if the federal government has sort of given up on this, i think we need to find way toes support states. many of them are being very proactive. so that gives me hope. >> i'll take it. i'm going to take it and i'm going hold on to it because it's a kernel and that is what we need right now. >>> coming in, president trump's younger brother, robert trump, has been hospitalized here in new york. the white house has confirmed this to cnn just a short time ago. abc news was the first to report this and they

link it toret is to the existing governmental public health infrastructure. that's the way to do this. a school or a job that's involved in testing and trying to integrate contact tracing for their employees, they have to integrate that with the health department. jay in riverdale, maryland. caller: c-span, this cable bill is very expensive. please don't cut me off. i have a follow-up question. after this tuskegee experiment, i'm worried about vaccines especially since no successful vaccine has been out to fight covid. my comment is leading to my follow-up question. italy was once the epicenter for the virus. the country called in human doctors with the cure. interferon. now they have totally reversed this. they are a model for europe. i don't know why the commercial media here and even c-span, big fan. doesn't even talk about that there is a cure used in italy and almost 50 other countries. interferon alpha two b. people are dying and there no discussion about it. dr., are you aware of the b?erferon alpha to be -- two guest: i'm aware there have been randomiz

the real public health crisis according to witless whitmer is not covid, its racism. she also mandated that state employees go through "implicit bias training" and created a black leadership advisory council to eradicate racial inequality in her state. joining me now is the next desousa, author of "the united states of socialism," writer and director of a film that will be out in any moment, "be a five card." dineshe, this feels all about governor whitmer and the democrats consolidating power, but what are they really doing here? >> they are unleashing this allegation is balloons that have become h completely untethered from their original source. i think this is where the new george floyd videos are very illuminating. not only because they show that george was resisting arrest from start to finish, but more importantly, it's not even clear that this was about race at all. it's very eye-opening to watch and realize that race may not have even entered the equation. what the left has done is build a gigantic narrative on top of george floyd, one that is obsessed with ra