why would we even expect a public and fully whose union-- a public employee whose union more or less exist to grow the government to treat someone who opposes that goal to a fair hearing. when the tea party was public vilified, is it any wonder that members of the union would get caught targeting them? this is something liberals used to worry about. fdr himself was horrified at the idea of look workers conspiring with lawmakers on how to divide up the tax payer pie. the him it was completely incompatible with public service to the public to be cut out of a negotiation in which the two sides were bartering over their money. even the first president of the flcio once said it was impossible to bargain collective league with the government. if that is is actually had today. over the past several decades, the same public employees have conspired with congress to expand those powers even more. and you endlessly increase the budgets that finance them. this is not done in the interest of serving taxpayers, it is done in the interest of policing -- it's done in the them.st of fleecing because

on this question, i will say that public sector unions are 50 or mistake. years ago i saw the dangerous potential for collusion between lawmakers and public security and when i served as executive of my own county. i fought hard against the formation of public-sector unions and at the time there was a bipartisan agreement on this issue. most people realized it was not in the public interest. unfortunately, the appeal of union support proved too great for some and shortly after i was elected to the senate, they vacated my office and the dam of resistance broke. the existence of public employee unions is without question a big part of the reason people of so little trust in government these days. they are the reason so many state and local minas appellees are flat broke. they are behind public pensions. today i'm calling for a serious national debate about them. on the federal level, the first thing we should do is stop the automatic transfer of union dues from employee salaries at the taxpayers expense. [applause] if the unions want their dues, it should be i

fans' fall, it is the public union's fault. the blackhawks delivered, the unions did not. >> when you think about this, it is the pensions that unions have negotiated over years, and retirement beneffts hat have driven il illinois to the brinkf bankruptcy, illinois is not alone, we heard about read about detroit, stockton, california. very similar situation. neil: in those cases, unions budge, they didn't like it but they gave up a little bit, for future retirees, they changed to you know defined bbnefit plans what have you, it has been tough sledding in illinois. >> to me it seems that illinois politicians are spineless they have dealt with this on 10 occasions or more, they have kicked can down the road, they have not had a truly balanced budget in last 10 years.

but bart says the unions are working safety to get public sympathy. >> but want our unions to stop using safety as a smoke screen, get to the table and negotiate a fair contract. >> bart says a station agent, went as far as filing a fake police report to pressure bart in its latest contract negotiations. bart said the fake report landed an innocent man in jail

it is a rule of the public employee union. ey are doing less nd less with public record and access and tranency. so thiis the type of things that happens when there's no opposition party in one party's ruling the entire state. melissa: some of t more amazing things that i've ead. the bay area rapidtransit system in the san francisco area knows about that. they have picked up100% of th employee pension contrution will 99% of their employees. is this a particularly wealthy transit system. they charge $100 a ride? how can they possibly afford this? >> it is a very affordable system in these abuses re happening. smaller systems like that, aster the legislature did away with some of these abuses. they admitted that they don't track this stuff. so hopefully this shines a light on some of these abuses. when they talk about why the schools are not performing ell in tuition is doubling, the parkare closing, they need to look at these costs. melissa: when everyone see this, they think that california california is cky. does this haen in

but bart says the unions are working safety to get public sympathy. >> but want our unions to stop using safety as a smoke screen, get to the table and negotiate a fair contract. >> bart says a station agent, went as far as filing a fake police report to pressure bart in its latest contract negotiations. bart said the fake report landed an innocent man in jail for a few days. we tracked down george at his union office friday afternoon. >> so, any response to what bart is alleging at this point? >> no. no response. >> i see, but they said you made a false report, what do you say about that? >> the district attorney will file charges against him. we also ran into him yesterday at a station where he passed out fliers to riders about a possible strike. police say the fake report was filed two weeks ago. a man punched him in the chest. police arrested the man. but bart says surveillance footage shows there was a verbal argument. no punches. >> the station agent appears to not been touched whatsoever. >> the union declined to comment directly on the accusation. police find it reprehensible the

budget cuts and tax increases that be ice any recovery hopes, it is not the fans' fall, it is the public union's. the blackhawks delivered, the unions did not. >> when you think about this, it is the pensions that unions have negotiated over years, and retirement beneffts hat have driven il illinois to the brinkf bankruptcy, illinois is not alone, we heard about read about detroit, stockton, california. very similar situation. neil: in those cases, unions budge, they didn't like it but they gave up a little bit, for future retirees, they changed to you know defined bbnefit plans what have you, it has been tough sledding in illinois. >> to me it seems that illinois politicians are spineless they have dealt with this on 10 occasions or more, they have kicked can down the road, they have not had a truly balanced budget in last 10 years. if you look at what vendors are waiting for now this terms of time i to get paid, it is over 0 days, illinois has a critical issue they need to deal with and quickly. what happens here is in the final analysis, it cost every taxpayer that is those who pay taxes, it

camera, but in a statement, the corporation called youngblood's efforts "publicity stunts, pressuring us to impose unionization on our associates." "i'm no publicity stunt. i like hyatt and want to keep working for them. i just think they need to listen to us." not all hyatts are unionized, but in chicago, hyatt and the labor group "unite here" have been in negotiations at four chicago hyatts since 2009 - talks still unresolved. while pay is no longer a sticking point, the workload, including lifting mattresses larger and heavier than ever, remains an issue of worker safety, which has kept negotiations apart. "if you're a woman, 5'5" and 130 pounds, you have to lift up a 100-pound mattress, scrub tubs on your hands and knees, that's hard. and you have to do that for 16 rooms." for now, penny pritzker remains on hyatt's board pending a confirmation vote by the full senate. youngblood says her efforts for a seat will continue, along with a global boycott of hyatt about which labor and management disagree on its financial impact. president obama is nominating a new right-hand man: jason furman is the president's

actually what is happening at therement in instanbul is , declared by the confederation of trade unions and the publicthe people will march in taksim , but the instanbul governorship declared that this is not a legal act and they will not let the people walk. so there is just a few minutes and this is a general strike so it is all over turkey, in other parts of turkey as well. the civil servants and workers are on strike, and they are walking. the we will see what is going to happen. maybe i could tell you a little bit about what happened last night. last night, instanbul had brutal police attacks. supportedling party -- sticks and knives, trying to attack the demonstrators. yesterday, again, according to associations, at least 400 people were detained. the problem is there are no real numbers. they only get news by phones and interviewing people. so we do not know the exact numbers. we do not know the names of the people who were detained. that is the situation. >> we just have about 30 seconds. independent journalists speaking to us from instanbul and from express magazine. the significance of where

maryland, california are raising taxes and a big debate in new york about public sector unions and-- c sector unions innnew york city are calling governor cuomo and giving tax cuts to the wealth think who don't lead them and objecting to the tax cuts and only minuscule tax cuts at that. >> and 192 pages of different tax exemptions and expenditures in the state of new york, public sector unions not being taxed on their income. >> give me your judgment. do you think that under pressure from governors like mr. perry, that new york will maybe turn around, see the light, frack for the natural gas which new york has in abundance. lower taxes instead of raising them all the time? do you think they will have a change? >> right now they're trying to do that with the marketing campaign. the reality, it's a tough place to open or maintain a business here and, but they will-- >> will they do it? will they be pushed against the wall and say, it's just not working, we're going to lower taxes or we're going to get our own energy? you don't think so, do you? >> not without a strong interest from thei

will sayuestion, i that public sector unions are 50 or mistake. years ago i saw the dangerous potential for collusion between lawmakers and public security and when i served as executive of my own county. theught hard against formation of public-sector unions and at the time there was a bipartisan agreement on this issue. most people realized it was not in the public interest. unfortunately, the appeal of union support proved too great for some and shortly after i was elected to the senate, they vacated my office and the dam of resistance broke. and it has been gutting the finances of every state in local government in the country. the existence of public employee unions is without question a big part of the reason people of so little trust in government these days. they are the reason so many state and local minas appellees are flat broke. .hey are behind public pensions today i'm calling for a serious national debate about them. on the federal level, the first thing we should do is stop the automatic transfer of union ats from employee salaries t

. >> we've seen republican overreach in your state before when it had to do with public sector unions passing a bill that went hard after public sector unions and a massive rebuke, motivation, mobilization and overturning that. is the populist of ohio aware of this battle happening right now? enough that there will be recriminations if this will bill is signed into law? >> more and more they are, chris. there's going to be a day of reckoning in 2014. game on in 2014. elections have consequences, and we have got to stand up in the state of ohio and say this is not how we want our government run. again, there's real work to do, but yet they sit up here and use their political might and power to oppress women. makes no sense, chris. we are making very hard in the state of ohio to make sure people do not forget what has happened to women this year. what has been happening to voters last year. and what happened to workers in 2012 all at the hands of the gop. >> ohio state senator nina turner. thank you so much. >> thank you. >>> joining me now is terry o'neal, president of the national org

of the difficulties you have in terms of labor and the fights that have gone on over unions and public unions and so forth. traditionally the solution to economic and political problems in wisconsin or in the united states in the last 50 years and in europe in the last 50 years in europe they call social democracy and in the united states we call the liberals or progressive. the way the process works is very simple. you structure the economy and give over ownership of large amounts of capital to the corporations. they get to own the capital and the elites get to own the capital. that is the nature of the economic system. then when there are difficulties, inequality, resources for public purposes, environmental difficulties, when there are difficulties, there are more coming in, in and sit down and we will carry on, please come in. the way the system is designed and the way the politics of the system is designed is who gets to own the capital, who gets to own the wealth. corporations and tiny elites in the united states and in most capitalist system's own the large corporate productive part of

and today union workers are making their case to the public with a dramatic video which portrays unrulyent shows off his black eye after he says a passenger punched him. the union made this video to show the violence its workers face every day. another agent sarah bump tells kron 4 a bloody passenger came at her with a knife and it took 40 minutes for police to arrive. she called it a terrifying experience. >> "i have no protection." >>the union wants a few changes made including bullet proof glass in the station booths, and they dont want agents assigned to work alone at night in high crime areas. they also want an increase in bart police response times. this is all related to the conrtract negotiations. without a contact, bart workers could strike. negotiation talks resume monday. workers are busy preparing the grand opening of the popular berkeley restaurant -- chez panisse after a fire damaged the eatery back in march. the march fire shutdown the restaurant. -thousand dollars in damages. the famous east bay eatery has been taking reservations online and over the phone since the end

experience, he used executive authority to achieve a goal conservatives, to break the hold public employee unions on government in many states." ed schultz fought that fight on our network all the way through. scott walker might be the bridge between the chris christies and the people on the other side, the ted cruzes, because he's from part of the country your party has to win, the midwest. >> byron gets stories nobody else does. this was one of them. what i look at is, who's going to come out of iowa? there's going to be three, four people out of it. if it was today, you'd have rand paul, rick santorum, and you would have scott walker. all of them fit the bill of somebody who will resonate all across the state and do well and all of a sudden you're off to the races. i think a lot of these other people you mentioned are going to have trouble playing in iowa. >> let me go back to you on that, david. from the other point of view, progressive point of view. i don't think anybody going to beat hillary in the current environment, the economy. nobody is going to beat hillary i don't think. she's not g

or mistake and it's time to kind of have that discussion again of the appropriateness of unionism in the public sector. unionism and the private sector, fine. i don't have any problem with that, but i think it's time, because we're suffering the consequences of it. i'm going to take one more and then i'm going to head out. >> my name is david keating. first an observation about norms comment earlier where he talked about social welfare and exclusively. when congress said that that statute in the '50s, there's no evidence that congress intended to exclude political activity. and i wanted your thoughts about this. do political activities where people are trying to improve their government, couldn't that improve the social welfare in our nation? >> obviously that's my view. i think we're to be encouraging this sort of thing, not discouraging, and particularly when we know this whole disclosure came, had nothing to do with anything other than going after your donors. that's your thing for. they were never offended by this until the last few years when conservatives started doing more of that. all o

union could call a strike in as soon as ten days. tonight one bart worker is accused of pulling a really dirty trick to manipulate public opinion. da lyn tracked that worker down in a story you'll only see on kpix 5. >> federal mediators are working with bart and its unions to hammer out the contract. the unions cite safety as the main sticking point saying bart station ajents often get attacked and harassed but bart says the unions are using worker safety as a way to get public sympathy. >> get to the table and negotiate a fair contract. >> in fact, bart says the station ajent george went as far as filing a fake police report to pressure bart in its latest contract negotiations. bart says the fake report landed an innocent man in jail for a few days. we tracked down george figueroa

gulf of mexico. >> bart is ulg encouraging drivers leave their cars at home and take public transportation. bart union workers are taking advantage of the campaign to hand out leaflets to raise awareness about contract issues with the company. state mediators have joined the negotiations to avoid a potential strike. talks between the unions are stalled on key issues, such as wages and health benefits. >> to negotiate part of the bargain team. i would love nothing more than to finish this up, get a reasonable contract and go back to work. >> we are looking about strike contingency plans and if there is a strike we'll have alternative means to get around the bay area. >> cheryl: union contract expires june 30th a week from sunday. >>> facebook has just unveiled a new feature for the popular photo sharing app insta gram. matt is live in men low park with the details. >> reporter: just in the past hour in this building right behind me, on facebook headquarters campus the insta gram cofounder announced details. here is video from live stream. in the past hour the social networking bought instagram last yea

there is a public service employees union along with mr. obama going after conservatives. that's so obvious it's a joke, and the media is playing along with it and it's, of course, going to happen. all of these are incredibly obvious. there is a giant elephant in the room. it's political partisanship using the irs as a hatchet. >> we're going to keep reporting it because w find when an agency uses its full power to go after anybody, it's bad. if they're going to use a couple liberal groups to say all is even stevens, that's all good, but ask yourself the question whether any government agency should be doing that. and i will save this country alone, if i must! >>> mortgage rates seeing their biggest weekly jump i more than two decades. so why is that good news for the value of your home and why is the rest of my panel so worried right now that they have to stick around for another 20 minutes? >>> in the meantime, up next. looking over you shoulder for available, but they were infected with pneumonia. her pants hold out hope. i'm jamie cole. we'll be back in 30 minutes. her

which is the conservative groups are targeted, the head of the public service employees union is a huge leftist. is a great pal of the president of united states. they hate hate the conservatives. the questions that are asked, melissa to the contrary notwithstanding, were extremely burdensome and much delayed to get their tax exempt atus. there was hearing by congressman issa that people were reading out the questions the irs was asking them and they were overwhelmingly burdensome. >> i'm in the process of proposing a book about this. that is what they saying. they are targeting liberal groups, it's not just conservatives. some people that might publish this county. >> it could be they don't like you. >> most people don't think of it as that. >> you know why it won't sell because people probably aren't as interested as you are. >> they should be if they are not coming for you now, they will eventually. >> excuse i'm getting back. it's bipartisan is what i'm hearing from people. it's not just conservatives. >> neil: it could be the publisher. >> sirs going to sue you? >> they are going t

with christie, come on, when you go after half of the public sector unions, it's not trash talking. >> it's reality. >> it's not an opinion that is different from yours, but i think there's has been a coursening of society. it's the same with sexual harassment law. the only reason we need laws is, for behavior that none of our fathers would have have engaged in. >> this is an interesting point, i talked about it earlier in the show. it was on "the 5," you may have heard of it. >> what is the premise? >> there's five people of different personality types. >> when is it on? >> it's 5:00. >> no way. >> that is why it's called the 5. because it's on at 5 and there's five people. >> because it's a rip off of red eye. >> no it's not, the point i was trying to make is everyone will come and talk about trash talk on sports, but they won't confront a group of kids who are beating the crap out of someone and filming it on their phone. what is happening in society. you know the new cold docking cases -- >> world star. they film people punching people out. they will go after a kid for calling som

fight between bart management and the union is intensifying saying the agent has been charged with filing false reports. this shows saying it's drumming up public support but the union claims there is no record and says bart management is running and hiding from the fact that bart has a serious health and safety problem on their hands. contracts with bart five labor unions expire june 30th. >>> a doctor being praised for stopping an out of control bus. he was on the bus whit hit the car making an illegal u-turn. the bus did not stop after that incredible impablgt. is that when the doctor ran to check on the driver. >> hands on the wheel. just sitting there in a days, almost there, was nothing physically wrong with him. he could have pressed the pedal like i ended up pressing the pedal. >> this bus stopped and the driver was treated for a back injury and nobody else, mazingly was hurt. >> that is great gt doctor was there. >> more trouble for paula deen. her apology as her career is thrown into turmoil because of something she said. >> i'm spencer christian. weather bringing us rising temperatures and i'll have the accu-weather forecast coming u

union atu which represents bart train operators and station agents including george figueroa declined to comment directly on the accusations. >> we fine it reprehensible they would put something out in the public alleging the union committed some actions. >> reporter: hasn't the union done the same thing with bart? >> no, we have not. >> reporter: the d.a. will charge figueroa with one count of filing a false police report on monday. that's a misdemeanor. and liz, as of now, figueroa is still employed by bart. >> now, da, back to the negotiations. when is the next time they will meet to try to hammer out a deal? >> reporter: yeah. they are going to have some meetings both the unions and bart on next week actually. the contracts expire at the end of june. >> thank you. >>> you know, it's the first day of summer when the whole weather department takes the day off and poor elizabeth wenger has to take a nap off the morning show and come back. >> double duty. >> apparently. >> julie watts is on vacation. >> yes. [overlapping speakers] [ laughter ] >> we're filling in here in the weather department and we got some -- >> thank you. >> yeah. we got some big changes coming up. so hopefully you enjoyed

. >> now public employee union's want pay back.s want money for high speed rail and early warning earthquake system. >> william, thank you. >>> well, you've heard stories about dead people voting, now we have a fictional government employee winning awards. we'll explain. >>> first, as told by one author the deal behind bill clinton's endorsement of barack obama. and i honestly didn't think i would ever quit. [ male announcer ] along with support, chantix (varenicline) is proven to help people quit smoking. it reduces the urge to smoke. it put me at ease that you could smoke on the first week. [ male announcer ] some people had changes in behavior, thinking or mood, hostility, agitation, depresd mood and suicidal thoughts or actions while taking or after stopping chanti if you notice any of these stop taking chantix and call your doctor right away. tell your doctor about any history of depression or otr mental health proems, which could get worse while taking chantix. don't take chantix if you've had a serious allergic or skin react

public safety improvements including a new radio system. >> the improvements we're trying to make are not specific to the radio system. they are specific to systems that support our 911 dispatch center. >> police officers union and the fire department suggest instead that oakland join a regional public safety system. >>> time now 5:10. coming up, is the dreamliner becoming a nightmare? the latest problem for boeing's 787. >> and don't mess with granny. what happened when a man tried to break into a southern california woman's house. >> and the one that got away. the fish tale these fishermen will be telling for a long time. >> are you kidding me? ,,,,,,,,,, a couple of fishermen got ae surprise- trying to reel in their catch. this happened in alaska- the g >>> oh, oh, oh, my god, are you kidding me? >> look at that! a couple of fishermen got a surprise reeling in this catch in alaska. they are trying to catch a halibut when the killer whale got to it first. can you imagine? >> no. >> pulling this thing up and all a sudden -- hello! >> their reaction was right on. i want to see it again. >> i may have dropped some other words. >> no kidding. >> look at that. >> oh, man. >> just came out of nowhere. >> welcome

receive a raise under a tentative agreement between the governor and california's largest public employee unioneal covers 95,000 members of the service employees union. in addition to the raise, the three-year deal include as guarantee of no more furlough days and protects benefits. the union will vote on the deal later this month. >>> and a man is accused of selling nurse sharks over the internet. he run as business calling a what top. he advertised the sale of sharks on e bay and craigsless. a man would trap the sharks and send them to the suspect. they believe they sold and transferred more than 70 of the sharks. >>> and let's head out to see if things are looking good on the rods. sal? >>> good morning. things are looking good. and on the on ramp there is a crash to 80. it's not affecting the freeway traffic. if you look and trying to get to the freeway, you may not want to use the on ramp. and the bay bridge. traffic is good. and on 880 it looks good. and again another night time baseball game between the a's and the yankees. and that should be another well attended game. they won if were

are due to get a pay raise under a tentative agreement between governor browne and california's public union. the deal covers 93,000 employees of the union. in addition to the pay raise, the deal includes a guarantee of no more furlough days and will expect the workers' healthcare and retirement benefits. the union is set to vote on that deal later this month. >>> 7:19. there are a lot of low clouds across the bay area skies this morning. but temperatures are gonna bump up later today. meteorologist steve paulson will tell us how much. >>> after years of efforts to t on mt. diablo has been taken done. who took it? >>> the traffic looks pretty good and so does the weather. traffic and weather together -- coming up. [ male announcer ] the new subway® $4 lunch is for everyone. it's for value seekers. for spicy italian lovers. for veggie eaters. for meatball dreamers. for everyone who wants more of what they love. the new $4 lunch. a 6 inch sub and 21 ounce drink. tons to choose from. all day every day. >>> president obama is set to board air force one headed for boston. that's marine one, where

first, our ryan takeo is in oakland with what's keeping bart unions and management from reaching that agreement. >> reporter: there's been public talk but no movement. earlier this morning at about 11:00, both sides were scheduled to meet but so far they have not. >> reporter: they are not messing around. last night the unions gave bart and riders 72 hours' notice of a potential strike just in time

you have public employee unions, government unions that negotiate contract with government, they shouldthat is where the bonuses are coming from out of the union contract. neil: irs gave us a statement on that, essentially be on bring obliged to do this. under a legal agreement. this means, we got to do it. and it is part of the machinery. you say, got to change that machinery? >> i say we have to destroy the machinery. there should are be so such thing as a government employee union, fdr him was against it and afl-cio said there is no place for government employee unions, they are part of the cun can sir thacancer that is eatins country to death from the inside. neil: it gets weird. the timing of this, and what is going on, and what was mood of tea partiers who feel no doubt put upon. >> people are furious, not just -- this is a consistent b behavr of federal government, every agency across the oard, irs in the spotlight right now, they simply do not care when the american people think, they don't think about what the american people think. we're out here trying to figure out how to pa

receive a pay raise under a tentative agreement between governor jerry brown and the largest public employee union. it covers 95,000 members of the union. in addition to the pay raise, it includes a guarantee of no more furlough days. >> so what would happen if someone stole your smart phone? if prosecutors have their way, whoever took it would have no way to use it or sell it. janet tonight on the kill switch they would like to see installed on mobile devices and how they plan to get that message across to high-tech companies. >> reporter: everywhere you go, you see people talking or walking, immersed in their smart phone zone, moving targets for thieves. two roberts grabbed his iphone in march. >> they were able to track it and see that the phone ended up down at 7th and mission area. but then at that time, it had gotten turned off. >> 50% of the robberies last year involved some kind of smart communication device. >> reporter: district attorney says it's become a national epidemic. so thursday, he and new york's attorney general plan to ask the representatives of apple, samsung, microsoft to im

receive a pay raise under a tentative agreement between governor jerry brown and the largest public employee union. it covers 95,000 members of the union. in addition to the pay raise, it includes a guarantee of no more furlough days. >> so what would happen if someone stole your smart phone? if prosecutors have their way, whoever took it would have no way to use it or sell it. janet tonight on the kill switch they would like to see installed on mobile devices and how they plan to get that message across to high-tech companies. >> reporter: everywhere you go, you see people talking or walking, immersed in their smart phone zone, moving targets for thieves. two roberts grabbed his iphone in march. >> they were able to track it and see that the phone ended up down at 7th and mission area. but then at that time, it had gotten turned off. >> 50% of the robberies last year involved some kind of smart communication device. >> reporter: district attorney says it's become a national epidemic. so thursday, he and new york's attorney general plan to ask the representatives of apple, samsung, microsoft to im

this also plays into the issue environment about the control of public sector unions. >> chris: that'sthe panel. much more to say about all of this. stay tuned to see what happens when a world leader is caught red handed at the g-8 summit. [ male announcer ] erica had a rough day. she got a parking ticket... ♪ and she forgot to pay her credit card bill on time. good thing she's got the citi simplicity card. it doesn't charge late fees or a penalty rate. ever. as in never ever. now about that parking ticket. [ grunting ] [ male announcer ] to apply for the citi simplicity card go to citi.com/simplicity. it's the only card that never has late fees, a penalty rate, or an annual fee, ever. so apply today. chantix... it's a non-nicotine pill. i didn't want nicotine to give up nicotine. [ male announcer ] along with support, chantix (varenicline) is proven to help people quit smoking. [ mike ] when i was taking the chantix, it reduced the urge to smoke. [ malennouncer ] some people had changes in behavior, thinking or mood, hostility, agitation, depressed mood and suicidal thoughts or action

the first step is we're going to deal with collective bargaining for all public employee unions. because you just divide and conquer. >> bill moyers: despite an extraordinary public outcry, and after a brief but intense political struggle, walker's anti-collective bargaining measures became state law. >> john nichols: it was alec's ideas, alec's values, that permeated the bill and un-did almost 50 years, more than 50 years, of collective bargaining law in wisconsin. >> bill moyers: but again, remember, this isn't just about one state. it's about every state. take arizona -- practically an alec subsidiary. one report last year found that 49 of arizona's 90 legislators were members. and two-thirds of the republican leadership were on alec task forces. the governor, jan brewer, was an alec member too. >> steve farley: all of us here are very familiar with alec and the influence that alec has with many of the members here. >> bill moyers: alec's domination of arizona proved too much for state representative steve farley. >> steve farley: i just want to emphasize, it's fine for corpora