it is not the puerto rican flag.he guys are getting mad and the council makes the wrong decision, get on the council and change things. otherwise keep it in your own community. >> and by the way, there will be people in this parade who are walking around with a puerto rican flag with all types of clothing including the seat of their pants. is that not an insult? >> it is the puerto rican pants. >> us white people have a name, sherrod. it is adolf coors. >> i think if it was a puerto rican company we wouldn't even hear this story. >> really? >> i'm sure of it. even if it was beer. there may be a puerto rican beer out there right now. check corona. >> but cooer is sponsoring the -- they are doing something positive. putting the flag on there, why some negative? >> why the jump to assume it is a negative stereo type? is is it assuming all puerto ricans are drunk? i would never conclude that. >> that's the people who are angry are propogating. they are saying that they thought of that, but coors didn't. >> i didn't think

luis nieves falcÓn is a renowned puerto rican lawyer, sociologists, and educator. professor emeritus of the university puerto rico. he is editor of the just released book of oscar's letters and reflections called, "oscar lopez rivera: between torture and resistance." we're also joined by the man who wrote the introduction to the book, matt meyer, a longtime leader of the war resisters league. we began by asking luis nieves lopez to talk about oscar rivera's background. .> he was a vietnam veteran he was given the bronze medal because of his effort to save some of his colleagues in action. in coming to, chicago, he was amazed by the inequality that existed in the city. not only was a hard for the puerto rican, but other nationalities there. he did active work in trying to [indiscernible] he found it was not really to have the structure changes that are necessary to raise the levels of all the ethnic people in chicago. -- he joined an organization the social economic conditions of the puerto ricans in the united states could only really improve the political status of

it just occurred to me when you were talking that you and i, an african-american and a puerto rican,had been here say, 30 years ago, i'm not sure that we could have both embrace our ethnic identities so publicly, as publicly as you have in your memoir. do you think that's right? you know, i was thinking of the black intellectuals who would have to, the epigraph would be from aristotle or plato or shakespeare, because you have to show that you were, what, cosmopolitan, a citizen of the world and that meant leaving what some people call the kettle of your own culture. >> -- the ghetto of your own culture. >> unprivileged i can do that now. i think we have grown into a place in our society where we accept, many except diversity as a positive thing. the pin lecture wouldn't have existed until after, and it didn't exist until after september 11 because people began to realize that we live in a more open and public and international place that we ever have before, and we have to regard the world identity in a way that we had been unwilling to recognize before this. and i think you're right

. >> are they puerto rican because there is a puerto rican community in cleveland, and i just wondered if that's the connection. >> this is a puerto rican community here in cleveland. i can't speak exactly for the families if they're puerto rican or not. i don't want to make any assumptions. they did say, yes, that is puerto rican community. >> poppy, i'll let you go you so can interview the brother. thank you very much, poppy. do we still have jeff nearby? >> yes. >> wow. so supposedly according to the brother of gina dejesus when he was a child, he is 33 years old right now, he knew this ariel castro. i don't know what conclusions we can draw, but it's just eerie. >> it truly is. hindsight is 20-20. i don't want to criticize law enforcement here, but i think questions are going to start to come up because one of the things you do in an investigation -- as you know i have worked as a forensic psychologist for many years. you have to look at the sphere of influence. you have to be able to go in and interview whovrn may have known this family. we don't know whether that happened or whet

as you said, this appears to be a puerto rican community. think about for a minute communities that have a lot of immigrants. perhaps even -- how hard is it for them to go to the police and engage the police in order to draw important information to the attention of law enforcement? because in their situation, there is a lot more concern about peril if the individual witnesses a circumstances to become fully known. >> kendall, let's take a listen to this. let's get a taste of the hearing and then we'll come in and out of it as it occurs. >> on behalf of our local congregation as well as the fraternity, we are not here tonight not only to offer our prayers but we're also here to extend a helping hand. we are here to help you in any way that we can. >> we're going to take a break right now so we can capture the heart of this meeting. it's a hot one. it's going to be an important one in cleveland in that neighborhood. we'll be right back. me the first in flight. [ goodall ] i think the most amazing thing is how like us these chimpanzees are. [

. >> this puerto rican community has been hit hard. a rather sizable puerto rican community.nced charges, you said something i want folks to listen to. >> i will tell people, we don't have the sound available. born and raised in puerto reek york rico, that the acts of the defendant in the criminal case are not a reflection of those here or in puerto rico. why so important to bring that up? >> would you think after just over 100 years of puerto rico being part of the united states, people would be more aware of what puerto rico is and the community, and i felt it was important for the people to know that there is more to the puerto rican community than the as of this individual. the puerto rican community is a hard-working community. a community that sacrificed a lot for our country. a lot of us have served in the military. as far as 1899, a year after puerto rico became a territory of the united states, the puerto rican community is everywhere. everywhere i go in the world, i run into somebody from puerto rico. there is over 3 million people in puerto rico. over 3 million peo

has a rich tradition of puerto rican migrants. my mom and dad came here not speaking english in the 1950's fleeing puerto ricans and coming to chicago. they confronted all the same prejudice, bigotry, barriers that any other immigrant, documented or not, it experienced, but there is a large history of a mexican community here. here is an el salvadorian and guatemalans communities here. most of the latinos in his congressional district are also puerto ricans, not true. in their decided on rent -- 11 different occasions to send me. that means we are overcoming some of our own standing barriers that divide ourselves, that we've really are a community setting and going to vote for someone who represents my interests and whose voice is reflective of the issues i want raised. that is why i say that about chicago. it's a wonderful experience of a melting pot of latinos. >> i'm laughing. i'm glad there is puerto ricans and mexicans getting along. now if i could get the dark skinned and the light skinned negro is to get along, we could may

has a rich tradition of puerto rican migrants. my mom and dad came here not speaking english in the 1950's fleeing puerto ricans and coming to chicago. they confronted all the same prejudice, bigotry, barriers that any other immigrant, documented or not, it experienced, but there is a large history of a mexican community here. here is an el salvadorian and guatemalans communities here. most of the latinos in his congressional district are also puerto ricans, not true. in their decided on rent -- 11 different occasions to send me. that means we are overcoming some of our own standing barriers that divide ourselves, that we've really are a community setting and going to vote for someone who represents my interests and whose voice is reflective of the issues i want raised. that is why i say that about chicago. it's a wonderful experience of a melting pot of latinos. >> i'm laughing. i'm glad there is puerto ricans and mexicans getting along. now if i could get the dark skinned and the light skinned negro is to get along, we could may

[laughter] chicago has a rich tradition of puerto rican migrants. think of my mom and dad not speaking english leaving puerto rico i'm coming to chicago and immigrants with citizenship. they confronted all the same bigotry and barriers that any other immigrant documented or undocumented did an they arrived in chicago. there is a large history of mexican community here and the salvadoran and a quarter mall in community here. i just want to say a lot of people think well most of those latinos that live in the congressional district are also puerto rican. not true. 80% of the puerto ricans that live in my community they have decided on several different occasions to send -- and for latinos that know what that means, they know that it means we are overcoming some of her own barriers that we really are community. i am going to vote for someone that represents my interest and his voice is reflected on the issues i want raised. that is why i say that about the city of chicago. it's a wonderful experience of a melting pot of latinos that make chicago said g

let's listen to what he says. >> the puerto rican community is a hard-working community.d a lot for our country, a lot of us have -- after -- that the purityee reekan community is every where. everywhere i go in the world i run into somebody from puerto rico. there's over three million people in puerto rico. there's over three million people in the united states, and we are more than just the acts of this individual committed for the last decade. >> you know, carol, everybody is walking around, and they're saying this man is a monster, but what they don't want is for everybody to think that the community is like that. >> well, i also know that the neighbors are concerned, that police really haven't paid much attention to that neighbor or as much attention as they should have paid through the years. do they think things will be different after that yellow crime scene tape comes down? >> i know. well, you know what, some of that healing has started already. some of the authorities -- some of the police had a meeting last night not too far from here actually at a church, and

ariel castro is puerto rican like morales and around the same age and lived in the same area.nce but some of the evidence was either lost or destroyed. of some these cases are amazing that people got convicted. the ohio attorney general's office on friday, uploaded castro's dna into the system. that's how they proved the paternity. so far he hasn't matched any case in ohio but results are pending with the fbi. one local private investigator said they'll be asking about every missing person in the last 20 years. he think he tortured women but i don't think he got to the point of murder. one former fbi agent said castro is a sexual sadist and generally they don't kidnap for them to die however in cases where torture goes on for too long, murder can be default. >> what happened to the first woman? >> stephanie: there was a thing in the basement that said rest in peace. one of them remembered there was another girl. >> the first girl remembered another girl when she got there and one day, she was gone. >> stephanie: well, i know. i'm sure they're looking into all of that. >> that

my whole entire family is black and white and puerto rican. >> i'm just asking. i'm telling you, i'm not -- if i was prejudice i wouldn't have mixed children. >> also accused of allegedly possibly involved with commissary theft. >> why do i have to steal from anybody? >> i'm not accusing -- >> i'm stating a fact, my own commissary, don't need to steal from anybody. prove it. give me a lie detector test and i would prove it. >> it's has to prove it. >> get me a lie detector test and i will pass it. i'm not a thief. >> i steal at stores at home, yeah. >> i'm talking about here. >> no. give me a lie detector test. >> let them say what they want to say, their girls. how they talk. >> they never called you that. they are accusing me of being a thief, dude. give me a lie detector test. >> and claiming you were a white supremacist active. >> those girls are young. i'm not a gang member. i'm not a supremacist. >> we'll do a follow through, okay? all right, ma'am. >> thank you, sir. i like to have a lie detector for all three questions you asked me. i pay for it. >> you g

i'm eric bowling along with kimberly guilfoyle, bob beckel, dana puerto rican. it's 5:00 in new york city, and this is the five. >> whoa, are you ready for your bloop to hit the roof? remember when attorney general eric holder was called to testify in front of congress and the american people about snooping on journalists? we got a lot of this. >> i don't know. i don't know what has happened in this matter. i don't know. i don't know. i assume he was, but i don't know. that i don't know. i don't know why that didn't happen. i don't know. that i'm not sure. we probably have to get back to you with an answer on that. i just don't know. i don't know whether or not what funds were being used or whether that letter would apply to that effort. i just don't know. >> yeah. i don't know. i -- i simply don't know. >> in between some 62 i don't knows, mr. holder said this about his role in sub approximate. oeaning journalists. >> that is not something that i've ever been involved in or heard of or would think would be a wise policy. in fact, my view is quite the opposite.

the american flag and the puerto rican flag here. so a little activity here. looking for, we don't know. no doubt, they will be here in the coming days, scrubbing this home, going through this home, trying to figure out exactly how these three women were kept as long as they were. and really, it was this 911 call that a bystander, charles ramsey, made after he kicked down the door of the home that we just showed you where amanda berry, a young girl, and two women were being held. listen. >> cleveland 911 police, ambulance or fire? >> yeah, hey bro. i'm at 2270 seymour, west 25th, check this out. i just came from mcdonald's, right? i'm on my porch eating my little food, right? this broad is trying to break out the [ bleep ] house next door to me. so there's a bunch of people on the street right now, and so we're like, what's wrong? what's the problem? she's like this [ bleep ] done kidnapped me and my daughter. she said her name is linda berry or some [ bleep ]. i don't know who that [ bleep ] is. i just moved over here. >> sir, sir, you have to calm down and s

i'm eric bowling along with kimberly guilfoyle, bob beckel, dana puerto rican. it's 5:00 in new york city, and this is the five. >> whoa, are you ready for your bloop to hit the roof? remember when attorney general eric holder was called to testify in front of congress and the american people about snooping on journalists? we got a lot of this. >> i don't know. i don't know what has happened in this matter. i don't know. i don't know. i assume he was, but i don't know. that i don't know. i don't know why that didn't happen. i don't know. that i'm not sure. we probably have to get back to you with an answer on that. i just don't know. i don't know whether or not what funds were

they're puerto rican. she lost the ability to speak spanish. she just forgot.s i thought was interesting. she said gina, when she was held in the basement of ariel castro's home here on seymour avenue, she had with her somehow this missing persons flier of herself, dating back to 2004. also, we've learned from police that these three young women had a television, ultimately they were able to watch the news coverage of their own disappearances. and so when gina actually met lydia, she recognized her from television here in cleveland. that was a special moment for her. and then, you know, i asked, were you able to ask gina about the time spent in this house of horrors, about what was done to her? and she said, no, no, i just didn't want to get into that just yet. this was the first of likely several visits. but she did tell me, wolf, she brought a couple of "people" magazines to gina at her home, just to get her caught up to speed as to where we are in 2013. >> she was abducted when she was only 14 years old. she's now 23 years old. and correct me if i'm wrong, s

this is my community, i'm puerto rican, gina's puerto rican. the community's upset over this.re so close, we're tight knit, and it's upsetting that this actually happened. >> you're emotional. >> yeah, that part is just surreal. that's the part i can't let go of and i have to remove myself over what happened to her and not let her see my emotion, because it happened to her, not to me. i covered the story, we know what happened, but it happened to them. >> i'm glad she gave you a big hug. >> it was awesome. it was great. >> thank you so much for sharing. >> oh, you're welcome. >> hopefully, over time, she will continue to share more. i just appreciate you sharing with us. >> you're welcome. >> lydia esparra, woio weekend anchor. >>> to phoenix we go where jurors in the jodi arias trial are about to hear awful, gruesome details about her ex-boyfriend's murder and those details are about to get extremely graphic. ashleigh banfield is here to tell us why she's outside that courthouse, that's next. has oats that can help lower cholesterol? and it tastes good? sure does! wow. it's t

i'm eric bowling along with kimberly guilfoyle, bob beckel, dana puerto rican. it's 5:00 in new york city, and this is the five. >> whoa, are you ready for your bloop to hit the roof? remember when attorney general eric holder was called to testify in front of congress and the american people about snooping on journalists? we got a lot of this. >> i don't know. i don't know what has happened in this matter. i don't know. i don't know. i assume he was, but i don't know. that i don't know. i don't know why that didn't happen. i don't know. that i'm not sure. we probably have to get back to you with an answer on that. i just don't know. i don't know whether or not what funds were being used or whether that letter would apply to that effort. i just don't know. >> yeah. i don't know. i -- i simply don't know. >> in between some 62 i don't knows, mr. holder said this about his role in sub approximate. oeaning journalists. >> that is not something that i've ever been involved in or heard of or would think would be a wise policy. in fact, my view is quite the opposite.

>> reporter: that is the question that everyone here in this tight-knit puerto rican commute is asking themselves. to give you insight into ariel castro himself, there are reports from neighbors that during this more than 10-year period, he was actually actively participating in the search for these three girls. by that i mean he was handing out flyers. he was playing music in honor of them n, at one vigil he comforted one of these women. in this tight-knit community they had no idea this was happening right under their noses. these three women were not abducted far from where they were found less than two miles. >> just very shocking. all right. vinita nair in cleveland, thank you for the very latest. >>> and there are new questions about safety requirements in the wake of that deadly limousine fire on the san mateo bridge. the limo is not required to under go a state safety inspection or carry a fire extinguisher because the modified 1999 lincoln town car was licensed to carry fewer than 10 people. inspections are required every 15 months for larger limos, shuttles and buses. >>> the

i'm eric bowling along with kimberly guilfoyle, bob beckel, dana puerto rican.new york city, and this is the five. >> whoa, are you ready for your bloop to hit the roof? remember when attorney general eric holder was called to testify in front of congress and the american people about snooping on journalists? we got a lot of this. >> i don't know. i don't know what has happened in this matter. i don't know. i don't know. i assume he was, but i don't know. that i don't know. i don't know why that didn't happen. i don't know. that i'm not sure. we probably have to get back to you with an answer on that. i just don't know. i don't know whether or not what funds were

. >> first of all, my he wife who is puerto rican loves you and she would be upset if i didn't mentiond more colleagues are saying this is am necessarity. what do you say to people who say this is a pure flat out amnesty program? >> am necessaricy iamnesty is s of something. a $2,000 fine, background check, national security background check. you are not going to round up and deport 11 million people. anything short of rounding up and deporting 11 million people is amnesty then that is somebody else's definition. >> every attempt at reform in the past tried and failed by establishing rigid quotas overtaken by reality. are you will ready for a system more flexible and open that the demands for work is much higher than the quota. >> we want to protect american workers by require, that the jobs be offered to them but safety valve provisions that allow you quotas to increase as there is dramatic need in the economy. >> there are dozens of amendments that related specifically to borderrenc boad enforcement but you decide to be nongermane. >> i know one that was passed was senator grassley t

i'm eric bowling along with kimberly guilfoyle, bob beckel, dana puerto rican.5:00 in new york city, and this is the five. >> whoa, are you ready for your bloop to hit the roof? remember when attorney general eric holder was called to testify in front of congress and the american people about snooping on journalists? we got a lot of this. >> i don't know. i don't know what has happened in this matter. i don't know. i don't know. i assume he was, but i don't know. that i don't know. i don't know why that didn't happen. i don't know. that i'm not sure. we probably have to get back to you with an answer on that. i just don't know. i don't know whether or not what funds were

>> there was a little girl, puerto rican girl with long curly black hair wearing black pants, tight blacknd a gr gray puffy jacket. >> reporter: eric says the authorities never seemed to think their information was credible. >> it seemed like they was looking at us like we was just looking for attention or something like that. >> reporter: the police. >> yes. they didn't seem to give any real true desire to the case, know what i'm saying? what we was telling them, they thought we were blowing smoke up their butts or something. i don't know. >> reporter: why do you think that is? >> i have no clue. >> reporter: after the arrest of ariel castro, eric and his brother say that is the face they saw behind the wheel that day. but theirs isn't the only story that if acted upon could have ended the terror allegedly brought by ariel castro. in 2004, after castro, who was a school bus driver, had allegedly kidnapped two girls and was about to kidnap gina dejesus, he left a child on his bus as he headed into the bus depot. i asked police why castro wasn't more aggressively questioned about the incid

. >> it's like saying a puerto rican. it could be anybody. laden not using any other means of communicating. we asked khalid shaikh mohammed about the information of the courier. and he kind of just jumped back. his body language jumped back and changed. and we said no, no, no. we know it as little kids. if suddenly you react and go no, no, no, probably it's yes, yes, yes. >> he had not been truthful. but, later, and this is the benefits of having black sides, we intercepted the communication, thereby telling us a lot about the courier. that he was of tremendous importance. and that we were on to something. >> scrim math knews was the jen matthews was the chief of base. i asked do you think we'll get him. she smiled and said we'll get him eventually and i hope i'm a part of it. [ male announcer ] this is bob a regular guy with an irregular heartbeat. the usual, bob? not today. [ male announcer ] bob has afib: atrial fibrillation not caused by a heart valve problem a condition that puts him at greater risk for a stroke. [ gps ] turn left. i do

know that the acts of the defendant in this criminal case are not a reflection of the rest of the puerto rican community here or in puerto rico. i also want to remind everyone that this is is now a pending criminal matter. and that we will not be able to provide any more comments at this time. thank you. >> questions? tom? sure. the four kidnap victims are gina, amanda, michele and the young child. and the victims of the rape are gina, amanda and michele. >> just a reminder, please. if you could come to the microphone. it's hard to hear. >> also make sure you state your name and what media outlet you're working for. >> brian todd from cnn. could you tell us anything about a search that we're finding out about just now of a second residence on seymour avenue where apparently officials went in with protective suits, masks, dogs? this is about two doors down from the castro home. could you tell us what's going on there, please? >> that is a continuation of the search that we conducted at the home on seymour avenue. during the course f of our investigation over the last couple days information was

know that the acts of the defendant in this criminal case are not a reflection of the rest of the puerto rican community here or in puerto rico. i also want to remind everyone that this is now a pending criminal matter, and that we will not be able to provide any more comments at this time. thank you. >> questions? [ inaudible question ] >> four kidnap victims are gina, amanda, michele, and the young child and the victims of the rape are gina, amanda, and michele. >> make sure you state your name and what media outlet you are working for. >> brian todd from cnn. could you tell us anything about a source we're finding out about a second residence on seymour avenue where officials went in with protective masks, suits, dogs, about two doors down from the castro home? >> that is a continuation of the search that we conducted at the home on seymour avenue during the course of our investigation over the last couple of days. information was obtained that provided us enough probable cause to seek another search warrant to go into that house and with an attempt to secure evidence. >> can you tell us an

yesterday they were taking down the american flag and they were going to walk away and leave the puerto rican flag there on the porch when the crowds erupted. they wanted that flag taken down, as well. and this morning we're here, this investigation still under way. we still don't have charges. but we are waiting that today. we understand that after 48 hours we should be hearing something, so at some point today, we will find out what this living hell was for these three women that they had to endure inside the home here right on seymour avenue. so, federal investigators have been turning this house inside out ever since amanda berry, gina dejesus and michele knight's stunning escape on monday. they're not revealing yet what they have found inside the home. today, fbi agents will question kidnapping suspects pedro, onil and ariel castro for the very first time. the brothers could also be criminally charged today. and amanda berry, whose chilling 911 call brought an end to this decades-long ordeal, is finally getting the chance to reconnect by phone with her grandmother and other family member

yesterday they were taking down the american flag and they were going to walk away and leave the puerto rican the crowds erupted. they wanted that flag taken down, as well. and this morning we're here, this investigation still under way. we still don't have charges. but we are waiting that today. we understand that after 48 hours we should be hearing someth

this is a very tight knit hispanic community, largely puerto rican, where people know each other.verybody knows each other. everybody cares about each other. there's a special interconnectedness between families that spans generations. people are in each other's business. sometimes even too much, as somebody who grew up in a community very similar to this one can attest to. just to put this in perspective, you can walk to the corner right now and say to anybody, where can i find papo? if you grew up in a latino family, you know that everybody has a papo. sometimes two or three. oh, yes, papo, he owns the restaurant. i think that ariel castro was so good as fooling everybody because of the double life he led, but also people are trusting because they genuinely care about one another here, piers. >> here's something from the archives in 2004, gina dejesus' parents talking about her disappearance. watch this. >> she knows, if she sees anybody approach, she is to turn and run or scream. >> right. >> to avoid any person that she does not know that is walking towards her or anything. i'

>> a little puerto rican girl with long, curly black hair wearing tight black pants and gray puffy jacket. same exact description. >> reporter: eric says the authorities didn't ever seem to think their information was credible. >> it seemed like they were looking at us like we were just looking for attention or something like that. >> reporter: the police. >> yes. they didn't seem to give any real desire to the case. you know, what we were telling them. they thought it was -- we were blowing smoke up their butts or something. >> reporter: why do you think that is? >> i have no clue. >> reporter: after the arrest of ariel castro eric and his brother say that is the face they saw behind the wheel that day. theirs isn't the only story that if acted upon could have ended the terror allegedly brought by ariel castro. in 2004, after castro, who was a school bus driver, had allegedly kidnapped two girls and was about to kidnap gina dejesus, he left a child on his bus as he headed into the bus depot. i asked police why castro wasn't more aggressively questioned about the incident. >> he was inter

. >> a little girl, puerto rican girl with long curly black hair wearing black pants, tight black pantspuffy jacket. >> reporter: same description? >> same description. >> reporter: eric said the authorities never seemed to think their information was credible. >> seemed like they was looking at us like we were looking for attention or something like that. >> reporter: the police? >> yes. they didn't seem to give any real true desire to the case you know what i'm saying? what we was telling them. they thought we were bloking smoke up the smoke up their butts or something. >> reporter: why do you think that is? >> i don't know. >> reporter: that's the face they say they saw behind the wheel that day. in 2004, after castro who was a school bus driver had allegedly kidnapped two girls and was about to kidnap gina dejesus, he left a child on his bus, as he headed into the bus depot. ski i asked police why he wasn't more aggressively questioned about the incident. >> he was interviewed extensively, relative to this complaint that we had. he was not a suspect in any other complaint. this was

celebrating tlurse the cubans got if greatest rumga [ rolling r's ] carnivale that you can see in the puerto ricancha. a little salsa. >> so you'll be able to come down and not want to move, am i wrong? >> that's it. it's a fever that gets inside of you and gets you to get up and want to dance. if you want to dance, jump in the parade and dance with people. >> just get on in there. what are we celebrating today? >> carnivale is traditionally celebrated in the month of february, right before lent. but here in san francisco, because we started in february, and it's so cold, and it's a little chilly today, we changed it to may. >> sure. >> and that's where we get to just be free, and dance, and have a good time. >> all right. yeah. so you say you're doing it on a warmer day. it's warmer, not exactly warm out here, though per se. a lot of people walking around with jackets. the carne starts 9:30 this morning. heads down mission street. after that there will be a festival that goes all day long. we'll be back at 9:30 with an update on the festivities. back to the studio. >> carnivale in the mission. yo

brooklyn and then long island, whenever there was a notorious crime, please, god, let it not be a puerto ricano many problems. we were working to bring ourselves up by our boot straps and to have these three awful monsters, what they had done. then it mitigated when it became clear it was only the 52-year-old ariel castro, bad enough. but then the antidote to that in a way was victor perez who happens to be the city prosecutor in cleveland, also born in puerto rico. and as mr. perez said so eloquently, this monster doesn't reflect on our community. we are a -- yes, we are poor, many of us, but upwardly mobile and american and taking care of each other and rejecting the -- >> brian: what about the suicide note in 2004? i was abused as a kid. it's their fault. you have to care, it's part of the story. i don't care, he said that it was their fault for getting in the car with me. >> well, it's disgusting. what i focus on now, brian, is that i want this to be a capital crime, in the same way i reject the death penalty for jodi arias because i think that stripped of all the sensationalism it is a do

i was there with the program and we ran back and forth, asking about the puerto rican island, the u.s. navy and at the time, asking one they would stop, i asked him about racial profiling. this is a time when ralph nader was running. they saw him as a threat. and i asked that president clinton be responsible for ralph nader success because he had brought the democratic party to the race. it was at that point the president clinton said, i find you hostile and combative and at times disrespectful. so i said okay, and i just have a few more questions. asked about racial profiling because al gore had said he became president he would be the first executive order to do away with racial profiling. so i said if that is the intention, i said why haven't you done it until now. but anyway, after that, he got off the phone. it got a lot of attention. next day i get a call from a local newspaper in new york and i'm talking to the reporter and i get another comment from the white house. so i put the phone down. at the time we used tape recorders. and i said, just one minute, please. who happens to