pyotr valerievich spoke about, this is the reception of precisely his religious and philosophical ideasich is connected with anthroposophy, had a gigantic influence, of course, on the russian symbolism of andrei bely it is impossible to imagine, yes, without goethe, yes, these two lines, they somehow interact there in some mysterious way, yes, through some secret internal connections, yes, and i think that it is possible that other aspects of goethe's work are still waiting for their russian. without which you cannot live, if such exists, for me, as a philosopher, of course , these key philosophical intuitions, which we haven't talked about very much, this amazing skill of his, his amazing vision of reality as a complex game, polarities, opposites, yes, that means, she has the famous in maxims and reflections, the famous... statement says: yes, it's wrong when they say that between two extremes lies the truth, between them lies the problem, he says, yes, this is what, it seems to me, permeates all of goethe's work, this idea, yes, it is in his lyrics, it is in his dramatic collisions, i

of course, a continuation of this very line, yes, well, and another important theme is what pyotr valerieviche about, this is the reception of just... his religious and philosophical ideas, which are connected with anthroposophy, had a gigantic influence, of course, on russian symbolism, andrei bely it is impossible to imagine, yes, without goethe, yes, these two lines, they interact in some mysterious way there, yes, through some secret internal connections, yes, and i think that it is possible that other aspects of creativity are still waiting for their russian perception, you know, dear friends, with great gratitude to you for this conversation, i would like to finish with this: nikolai karlovich medtner, the composer, had such a criterion, without which i can live, yes, without this in music, he says, without this i can live without this, i want to change it a little to ask you at the end of our conversation, without what in goethe you cannot live, taking faust out of the brackets and disregarding, perhaps , the fact that we have already designated russian culture, here you personally, wi

pyotr valerievich abramov, candidate of philological sciences, chairman of the goethe commission of the russian academy of sciences, pyotr vladislavovich rezvykh, candidate of philosophical sciences, associate professor of the higher school of economics, i am vladimir ligoyda, let's talk about the great goethe. dear friends, this quote with which i began our conversation is a book by ivan ivanovich konaev, goethe as a natural scientist, yes, remember, at the very beginning he begins with such, at first glance, seemingly trivial, but at second glance, in my opinion , a very controversial judgment, so i wanted to ask what you think about this, because if only a genius can understand goethe, maybe we should immediately close the program in general everything, but you know, in fact, goethe is such a unique personality who transmits something from the past very persistently transmits it into the future, the germans call him the last universal genius, and the point here is not that he was born in the age of enlightenment, when there really was a time of geniuses, but the point is... probably