quincy jones.i like that. popping a squat. >> i'm glad you had me sitting down. my feet hurt. >> that sounds like the '60s. i like that. popping a squat. >> we do anything for you here, mr. quincy jones. i was just talking about you the other day at the hairdresser of all places. >> that's the place to talk. >> we were talking about people who were ahead of their time, the producers. we were listening to michael jackson and we were saying quincy jones. how were you so forward thinking in those days? that music timeless and still holds up today. >> i know. they play it everywhere in the world. 35 years later. i can't believe it. everywhere. china. brazil. >> what goes into creating the beat? >> i don't know, honey. i do what makes me happy. i don't -- if you listen and talk about survey groups and they don't like this, like that, i don't want to hear that. i get something because it makes me get goose bumps. if i get goose bumps somebody else is going to get them. >> how has the music industry chang

if you want to sound smart quincy jones racked up 79 nominations and 29 wins during his prestigious careerawards was the conductor, george solti has won 31 times. i'm a left talker and i'm going to take left-hand talker. lewis is standing by around the water cooler. >> stop knocking over things. >> let's go to music's biggest night. the big winners of the evening were daft punk who won album of the year and record of the year. literally casting a shadow was pharrell. get lucky. a tremendous hat. look at that thing. online it was drawing comparisons to smokey the bear. arby's took an opportunity to tweet, pharrell, can we have our hat back. the similarity is striking. >> roast beef sandwich over there. >> if pharrell is doing that, you know that it's cool. >> the sauce, that's the best by the way. >> i'm saying if pharrell does that, you know it's automatically cool. i've already ordered myself one online. don't judge me. >> never. >> macklemore and ryan lewis walked away with more. >> we are gathered here to celebrate love and harmony. as i look out at this audience i'm delighted to see th

quincy jones was in the production room. it was an amazing moment for him because he understood orchestration. quincy always said, that is where i learned how to write for the big orchestra. he was the ultimate musician. the respect and the fear sometimes came out. fear because he could hear everything. i think he was the king of tempo. he would find something in a song that would become his. one of his favorite people with count basie, who could take a song and find the right tempo. ray absolutely could do it. when we got involved with this album, which is the last of the ray charles album, i watched everybody we worked with get inspired. when i say fear, it is highest respect you can give anybody is when you care about somebody. >> when a movie is really working, we have an out of the body experience. this is not the psychic network. you are so wrapped up in the story that you really are not aware of where your car is parked, where you are going to have dinner. you only care about what will happen to those people next. whe

let's start with quincy jones, the music producer, the guy behind michael jackson's "off the wall" album and "thriller." why was he so transformative? >> you're absolutely right, he did some of michael jackson's biggest selling records but he goes back through frank sinatra, miles davis. he goes back to lyle hampton. we don't know anybody who has this range. he would hate me telling you this, he's 80 years old, but he would be the youngest one on the set and he has -- which is of course a very youthful set, i can see -- but still, there's a sense of liveliness. he's sharp and on the edge of the frontier of his business as anybody. the music business has gone through revolutions in technology and business models. quincy has not ridden it. he has led each of those plus he's been a great tv producer. "fresh prince of bel air," "jenny jones," "people's court" ". he's been a great leader. 27 emmys along the way. >> we'll see if he makes the cut down to the top 25. let's go to the next one, someone i know jim has covered and sue as well. some might argue her rein at pepsico hasn't been that su

on the list that didn't sort of ring my bell but did of one of our advisers jeff sonnenfeld was quincy jonese as a music producer dating back to sinatra and michael jackson, but i thought his most signal impact repredated our period of 1989 into 2014. another one that was controversial for similar reasons was one of the sort of scoundrels on our list so maybe not so much a scoundrel anymore, michael milken. >> michael milken went to jail but he paid his debt to society and he's done a lot for charity since then but most of his business impact was before 1989. >> and what about bernie madoff. in light of the news today about his health problems we were asking earlier whether there's anything that's been transformational about what he's done beyond just the extent of his activities? >> well my feeling, and tyler, you may have a different view but my feeling is that he was quite simply a mega ponzi scheme, and, you know, there have been a million ponzi schemes, and i'm not -- and there will probably be more alas, so i don't think we should put him on the list as a transformational figure. >> th

we have entrepreneurs, we have people from the world of entertainment and sports like quincy jones.st for the ways he has trans forged minority business in this country. >> this is almost like brackets though. jamie dimon, we have an exclusive interview in davos. if you were to put jamie up against sandy, who would you pick? >> this is one of those things, we're doing it real time. i wish we could wait 100 years. i can tell you edison if you go back to a list like that, ben franklin that stand the test of time. there's an old saying never name a street and city while the guy is still alive. >> i'll give you another one. >> it can be infamous. tyler, you said, steve jobs, put him down. put gates down. but then the rest -- >> bezos. >> john vogel is on the list, vanguard. >> uh-huh. >> you may say not a big trend -- >> boring. >> you may say boring. >> index funds. >> index funds, long-term investing, okay? >> then warren buffet. where would you put warren buffet? i would argue he's helped spur people to think long term about investing and he's created a con groom mer ra glom mer rate