rachael maskell, labour mp, adam holloway, conservative mp, what do you think about that new zealandn the streets over christmas, even tomorrow. there are immediate responses we can put into place, empty churches, mosques, buildings we can put back into use. let's be brave about this. absolutely, we need to ensure we have ambition and nobody should be out on the streets when it is cold, but it is about permanent housing so people can rebuild their lives. that is why the policy which ran out across scandinavia to great success, people moving from the streets, not returning to the streets, and with all the support around them to move on with their lives, that is what we wa nt to on with their lives, that is what we want to see. adam holloway? yeah, one of the good things they do in new zealand is have what they call wet hostels, so that drug addicted or alcoholic people can get in there. but look, let's not be mealy—mouthed there. but look, let's not be mealy— mouthed about there. but look, let's not be mealy—mouthed about this. what the prime minister has said is absolutely extraordin

we can cross to our salford studio and speak to labour's rachael maskell, who is shadow transport a lotindustry. in so many different cases on the railways. it accounts for 2596, on the railways. it accounts for 25%, what we have seen is so much waste, millions of pounds wasted across the rail service, because of fragmentation and privatisation, profit going into the shareholders back pockets. absolutely, i believe that staff who work incredibly hard on the railways deserve a fair and just pay rise, chris grayling is wrong to put a page cap on their pgy- wrong to put a page cap on their pay. my question was, would you separate out the two? -- pay cap. we will have a completely different model of delivering rail, we will move to a position of nationalisation of the railway. those cannot be directly correlated because we have got to look at so many issues regarding pay terms and conditions on one hand and making fair is fair, for the passenger. and therefore what we will do is look at good productivity on the railways, how we ensure staff are well trained and supported, and ensure that we