radical islamists. i haven't been this is he mantically confused since learning about the word niggardly. it just-- my head, i don't can't-- dopt use that word. i guess you can, i guess-- now look, i get it, i get it, some people on the left don't want people to conflate islam with radical islam but you know people are going to do that regardless of what you call them. haters going to hate, and conflaters are going to conflate. so why not be clear. i mean the word radical is the key modifier, by saying radical islam by definition are you saying that not all muslims are radical. if anything you hear the term radical islams should clarify our view of radical normal muslims, to clarify please welcome riz want fahad. riz want. >> thanks for joining us, rizwan, what are your thoughts about these radical islams. >> it's bogus, bro. terrorists have taken something that's really important to me. and totally per verted it. >> larry: you mean islam, right? >> no, man, being radical. that's me, dude. >> larry: wai

and de-radicalization that he's. -- de-radicalization studies. the discussion has been going along for several years now. you, it iss vague to also very vague inside the u.s. government. no one is quite sure what this thing means. i remember when i was working at the state department, i asked another agency to give me a list of everything that had been justified to the congress as countering violent extremism across all ages into the u.s. government. pretty amazing. everything from building forward operating bases in afghanistan to english-language programs for young mothers. essentially it became away for the government to protect their budgets and their programs. in an effort to become much more focused, we are here today to talk about one slice of this that is often neglected, but i think is the most valuable in the effort to stop or counter recruitment for terrorist organizations, and that is early intervention. i wanted to begin our program tell by asking daniel to us what early interventions programs are, how they differ from other programs

radical islam wants to eradicate the west, and the west will not have peace until radical islam has been eradicated. asiem el difraoui, your opening statement says military resources alone won't defeat isis. would you nonetheless agree with the pope when he says that we are in a piecemeal world war iii? asiem: i wouldn't call it world war iii. let's not exaggerate. we are confronted with the global ideology. that's true. which needs to be -- i don't want to -- we need to find a new terminology. we are in a global conflict against an ideology which we can't win only militarily. if france is bombing raqqa, fine. might be necessary. if we liberate territory out there under isis control, very important. but there is not only isis. we have a very short-term memory, it seems, in a sense that all that started in the afghan war against soviet empire where we used the most reactionry elements, elements of the muslim world to defeat the russian empire. we defeated the russian empire, but now those elements might defeat us. jihad is an ideology which has a foothold all around the world. places like

why do radicals engage? i don't know if i can make any comments that are not appropriate -- that are inappropriate. why do people put themselves forward? they fundamentally believe they have something to offer, no matter how ridiculous. that they have something alternative to offer for the betterment of society, humanity, or they're -- or their people. they want to engage because they want to persuade the rest of society around them their radical worldview is better for the u.s., for their community, or the country. want toone reason they present their point of view. second, and a lot of individuals have doubts about what they are doing. they generally have a set of complexities pushing them towards engaging with other people. the reason you have leakage is because people want an intervention. the same reason why people talk about suicide. what they're feeling. you know that they should take it seriously, that they are also reaching out for help. have ast all cases, you high rate of people who want to engage

and de-radicalization that he's. -- de-radicalization studies. the discussion has been going along for several years now. you, it iss vague to also very vague inside the u.s. government. no one is quite sure what this thing means. i remember when i was working at the state department, i asked another agency to give me a list of everything that had been justified to the congress as countering violent extremism across all ages into the u.s. government. pretty amazing. everything from building forward operating bases in afghanistan to english-language programs for young mothers. essentially it became away for the government to protect their budgets and their programs. in an effort to become much more focused, we are here today to talk about one slice of this that is often neglected, but i think is the most valuable in the effort to stop or counter recruitment for terrorist organizations, and that is early intervention. i wanted to begin our program tell by asking daniel to us what early interventions programs are, how they differ from other programs

who are without doubt our reservation properly called radical islamists.cowardly, and how ignorant must anyone be to refuse to call them what they are. >> a quotation of the evening. there is a big difference between fighting the cold war, and fighting radical islam, the route rules have changed and we haven't. we're coming right back with much more. >> president obama does not want to screen syrian refugees for their religious ties to islam. >> that is shameful. that is not american. lou: why is the president reluctant to support the highest level of vetting to protect american citizens, our political panel takes up the issues and more next. >> how does the black lives matter movement reaction to the murder of stories of people in -- scores of people in paris, they complaint that radical islamist te (trader vo) i search. i research. i dig. and dig some more. because, for me, the challenge of the search... is almost as exciting as the thrill of the find. (announcer) at scottrade, we share your passion for trading. that's why we rebuilt scottrade elite from

from radical islam. in fact, it was just hours ago that the islamic state terror group posted a new video, promising to "strike america at its center in washington." while the group often posts messages like these, they can take on a chilling new impact when you see pictures like this, from inside the french concert hall moments before the terrorists attacked, and then compare that image to this one. a horrifying aftermath. we have blurred the bodies. as young men, armed with shotguns went from person to person inside that same concert hall, attempting to send a dp s grisly message to the world. our nation's leading homeland security voices are warning today and have been for months that this threat may already be on our doorstep. >> we've arrested over 70 isis followers in the united states over the last year. that's more than one per week. we have investigations in all 50 states. we have 900 investigations ongoing in the united states in the homeland as i speak. you know, you just can't stop ate all, a

islam. >> radical islamic terrorism. >> you do have a problem with radical ms.ims. >> radical jihadists. >> radical islamic terrorism. >> how far in are you going to go in an ad war if millions and millions are being spent on you -- against you? >> well, look, i built a great company. the company is amazing. it's, you know, it's peanuts we're talking about. i'm going to spend whatever i have to spend. i'm going to spend what i need to spend. and part of the reason this i'm doing so well is i have some of the great assets of the world. i have tremendous cash flows. when i filed my statements everybody was amazed at the size of what i've been able to build. and that, frankly, the reason i tell you that is that's the kind of thinking that our country needs, sean. we need that kind of thinking. if you look, $19 trillion and we have nothing but problems. obamacare's a disaster. it has to be repealed and replaced. our vets aren't taken care of, our military isn't taken care of. we're falling way behind. we're the most unprepared now in the military than we've ever bee

as long as we have a president who is unwilling to utter the words radical islamic terrorism. this past weekend, the democratic debate, hillary clinton could not bring herself to utter the words, radical islamic terrorism and we have- islamism is a theocratic and policitical philosophy that mandates jihad, that mandates the violent imposition of sharia law across the globe creating an islamic caliphate where the islamists want to murder or forcibly convert anyone they conssder an infidel,, anyone w wo doesn't embrace their radical or islamist views. aad yet president obama a ersists in being what is in affect an apologist for radical islamic terrorism. in fact he astonishingly insists the islamic state is not islamic which is a remarkable statement for anyone to make, that is a mistake. we need a president who directs our resources at the people are sick and tired of establishment politics, and they want real change! [ chchrs and applause ] bebeie sanders -- husband, father, grandfather. he's taking on wall street and a corrupt political system that keeps in place a rigged eco

people can be radicalized by islam. the fight has changed. how do we fight it if they are already here? julie: it makes you feel like you can't fight them. i heard martha maccallum say stop walking around buried in your cell phones. it's frightening. we'll talk later in the show about teachers trying to teach kid about what propaganda looks like by having them drew isis posters. it's something you have to start talking to your kid about because it is here. andrea: there is a lot of concern among the american people about the refugee crisis. france, we both lived there. it's not the parents of these french, it's their kids that can become radicalized. julie: the french have done a terrible job with the muslim communities. if you wear a head scarve you can't go to a public school. they segregate the young women into religious schools or home schooling. horrible job. >> i just have to disagree with that strongly. by segregating people with head scarves they are saying we want to bring into our secular society and the people wearing head scarves

. -- are de-radicalized. i know that they have changed a little bit in their community outreach project, so they have a lot stronger community policing aspects, where police officers would go uninvited and just be present in to be nice and be open, but they don't have individual de-radicalization intubatio intervention programs. threat, i think you have to differentiate between those who are formers rally feel attacked because they are an inherent threat, and those who are professionals coming from another background. it is how you frame these interventions. to give you another example of counter narrative intervention, i am leading a group with the inspirational christianity -- mothers from nine countries across the globe who all have lost sons and daughters, most killed, in syria and iraq. some of these mothers wrote an open letter to the islamic state, posted it on various social media site. you can find everything on it online. the idea was mothers are in an essential position to challenge beliefs and ide

all three of them refused to use the term radical islam being terrorism. they just can't say it. >> why is it important, donald? >> because if you condition define the problem, you're never going to solve the problem, joe. they refuse to say what the problem is. you'd almost think they have the terrorists coming out from sweden. the problem is obvious. >> so what do you do as far as troops go? >> here's what i would do. i've been saying this for a long time. i would have -- if you remember when i said attack the oil bus that's their primary source of wealth. people smiled and they laughed and thought it was a joke and they thought it was funny. now as of two days ago, they're attacking the oil. i would absolutely obliterate their source of wealth and i would also attack the banking system because they're getting tremendous amounts fund through a very complex network of bank willing. >> first of all, on the oil, i agree with you completely. >> and have i been saying that for a long time in. >> i've been saying that for a long time. >> there's one difference

he was a known radical to authorities, had ties to extremist groups. and he had been arrested eight times in the past. he was one of the four gunmen here at the bataclan theater who is responsible for slaughtering more than 80 people at this scene. the prosecutor also revealed that another one of the attackers had a syrian passport. and another was carrying an egyptian passport. we're now learning from a greek official that the syrian terrorists crossed into the european union through the greek island of laros. he did that in october. his passport was checked there. we don't know if it was checked at other passport control areas on his way from the greek islands to paris. as you know, it's easy to travel across europe without getting your passport checked in many cases. we don't know if his passport set off any red flags. according to the greek official, the second one may have passed through the greek islands as a refugee among the syrian refugees who fled from that area. this is obviously something people were very, very worried about. we've learned

is isis radicalization. i think most people would agree that there should be nonetheless 99% of the resources devoted. i think in the u.s., we're limited basically -- we had been limited mostly to engagement. we're starting to see signs that they're working on one-on-one intervention. the very tailored interventions. which if successful are quite cost effective. and it's much easier to prove the effectiveness, not very easy, but easier, than some of the larger programs. and the european experience tells us that. so we have very different models that we'll talk about largely, depending on what the degree of involvement of government and a variety of other factors. in the u.s. we're starting to talking about utilizing these tools. traditionally, we have seen a law enforcement-based approach. the traditional use of sound, very harsh law enforcement techniques. the fbi is basically in charge of investigation. if the european approach is on individuals who are clearly radicaliz radicalized, the european approach

they are radical islamists. the democrats seem to be so concerned with political correctness they are completely incapable of naming our enemy. instead, they cower, run scared from the reality that exploded in death and flood in paris on friday. they are perfectly comfortable with the o which also refused to call these terrorists radical islamists terrorists. but to truth and plain language about these terrorists, embracing political correctness to suffocate truth in our political arena. luckily, we have emerging leaders who are breathing life back into our political debates and our discussions and who may well do the nation the great service of killing off political correctness and the mind-bending distortion of the reality that we must overcome. imagine this, if you will, as far back as 2002, i settled on the term radical islamists to describe our enemy. at 9/11, the bush white house refused to name the enemy. i put on the air lots of discussions with arab, muslim historians, foreign policy, middle eastern exp

has some connection to a radical group. some connection to radical ideology.t's on a path that's considered dangerous. so it is part of those tools where deradicalization programs, programs part of it. early intervention programs are tools that usually focus on the social effect of the environment of those persons who are about to become a violent radical. we know there's a phenomenon call called leakage. that many persons leak some kind of sign directly or indirectly to family, colleagues, employer, anyone around them. and these persons are usually the first ones to notice a change. to notice a potential threat and danger. and in most cases, the so-called gate keepers, the so-called gate keepers, do not reach out to the authorities, do not reach out to the police or anyone else because they feel a strong sense of loyalty, obligation to their friends and family members. they fear what might happen to them. they fear that maybe they're making that work. maybe they're responsible for their son or daughter being put into jail for 20 years. so we need to figure ou

they weren't radicalized overnight. i would say isis didn't radicalize those 6,000. they plopped the low-hanging fruit -- >> to those in the administration that would have us to believe it's a smattering of people, based mostly in syria. what say you? >> absolutely, it's incorrect. those 6,000 that joined isis in europe, the reason they were radicalized is for decades in europe, we have islamic groups working within muslim communities, radicalizing muslims in europe. i know because i was one of them. they've been preaching the idea or notion of resurrects a theocratic caliphate. so along come isis and declare they've established this caliphate. people had been primed in anticipation for the return of this so-called caliphate. in surveys, 33% of british muslims have sympathy for the notion of resurrecting a caliphate. so we're not looking at isis as the main problem -- >> what about radical islam? i want to talk to you about that, because the president says, and hillary clinton says we don't say radical islam, it's going to alienate main stream muslims. your thoughts

some of getting radicalized -- someone getting radicalized on the streets in istanbul is not a differentpens in paris. is predatory grooming, primarily happening to kids with a non-muslim background. we've got to understand these mechanisms better come all of us-- better, all of us. angie: how can nations respond to ththis growing threat? framework we the are talking about is countering violent extremism. we have the white house in february in a follow-up in november 10. once they go into a new network is hardds and ideas, it to bring the back quickly. we have to spot them. angie: that is true. the pipeline is now, unfortunately, full of those who have already been converted and radicalized. what is the policy response here? the policyn: response is to recognize that there are limits to what we can achieve with surveillance. there's been a paradigm shift off the digital grid. we've got a reinvest an human intelligence, community engagement. with got have more officials, police officers, community workers, out there and community -- in the community. angie: we will leave it there for now.

we're facing radical islamists.rankly, this is a war on reality and the president and his close advisers need to get real. they're obviously not under enough pressure, they're not jvs, they just demonstrated that again, and they will absolutely attack again in places like london, in places like berlin, in places like new york and in places like washington, d.c. they're very, very well organized. this is the problem of letting the world go to hell and assuming it won't come back to bite you in the rear end. and frankly -- and i'm going to be very candid here, sean -- our amateurish foreign policy has its own place of responsibility in the mayhem that we're seeing right now. the president, to stand there and say that our strategy is working against this vicious, vile enemy is absurd. it's absolutely absurd. and i just -- i'm stunned at his press conference today and the way he characterized this brutal attack, this brutal 9/11-style attack in paris as a setback. >> i agree wholeheartedly. really appreciate your insigh

they are radicalizing. >> they are radical in the name of islam i would call that radical islam. >> islama peaceful religion. >> nomiki got to government rebekah, thank you very much. plenty more ahead as the factor moves along this evening. should americans syrian refugees? we will debate that some more. ben carson and chris christie enter the no spin zone this week. we will bring you the highlights and hope you stay tuned to those reports. you can't predict the market. but through good times and bad... ...at t. rowe price... ...we've helped our investors stay confident for over 75 years. call us or your advisor. t. rowe price. invest with confidence. jeb bush: leadership means it's not about yappin'.. it's not about talking. it's about doing. i know how to do this because i was privileged to serve in florida for eight years. and we turned the systems upside down that weren't working. 1.3 million new jobs were created. we cut taxes every year. income rose in people's pockets. people were lifted out of poverty. children started to learn. as president of the united states, i pledge to you

sometimes a political radicals. a series of other laws like sabotage laws of new immigration laws that are also , aimed at this kind of containing of opinion. you have all of these things going on, and sometimes these are quite violent episodes. the espionage act and is -- those prosecutions are a very dramatic example. what is great about them is that you end up at the supreme court and you actually have people sitting down and seriously thinking about these issues. >> once again i'm hearing parallels. tom: it was a really expensive -- expansive cultural moment. the country was enormously focused on the war. i do think it's not able just -- it is valuable to realize how different it was. there are a lot of things that we take for granted and the sense of what our civil liberties are, the things that we can say, the things we expect our government will and will not do. it was an entirely different country that time. world war i the great war was incredibly decisive in shaping the country and shaping american attitud

he was a known radical to authorities, had ties to extremist groups. and he had been arrested eight times in the past. he was one of the four gunmen here at the bataclan theater who is responsible for slaughtering more than 80 people at this scene. the prosecutor also revealed that another one of the attackers had a syrian passport. and another was carrying an egyptian passport. we're now learning from a greek official that the syrian terrorists crossed into the european union through the greek island of laros. he did that in october. his passport was checked there. we don't know if it was checked at other passport control areas on his way from the greek islands to paris. as you know, it's easy to travel across europe without getting your passport checked in many cases. we don't know if his passport set off any red flags. according to the greek official, the second one may have passed through the greek islands as a refugee among the syrian refugees who fled from that area. this is obviously something people were very, very worried about. we've learned

know when they get radicalized. look at the captain of the boston police force. they have to call up the terrorist task force and say his son was being radicalized and take a look at him. people know when their sons are being radicalized. there has to be more cooperation coming out of that community. the aviation situation is tough. there' thing at the airports that i don't want to go into, because i don't want to disclose the vulnerabilities, but there are many. as we talked before on other nights, the fbi is just so terribly undermanned and underwomaned that it's going to be really huge. they're going to be working 18-hour shifts and that won't be enough either. >> and i know you have questions about comey's claims last week. i don't think they let me speak for all women, but you can say undermanned. it's all inclusive. >> i know, but i must say the fbi has some great women working in the fbi. >> amen. >> i was proud to be the leader of some of them. >> i got it. james, great to see you as always. >> okay, megyn.

to say radical islam or radical islam terrorism which is what it is, she goes on in a speech today onceagain to say we are not at war with islam. why do they feel this necessary to say that. we are at war with isis. the foundation of isis philosophy is radical islamic philosophy. we need to call it what it is to be able to defeat it. >> all right. fantastic. carlie thanks for much for joining me. >> thanks for having me, kimberly. >> brand new information now coming out about this, daring terror raid in france. we are live on the ground in paris straight ahead. ♪ i built my business with passion. but i keep it growing by making every dollar count. that's why i have the spark cash card from capital one. i earn unlimited 2% cash back on everything i buy for my studio. ♪ and that unlimited 2% cash back from spark means thousands of dollars each year going back into my business... that's huge for my bottom line. what's in your wallet? >>> this is a fox news alert. the ringleader of the deadly paris attacks is dead. but even with the ringleader dead, the investigation is far from over. at le

how radical is that?s is common sense and that's why our polls show 75% of the american people support this measure. i know the president has issued a veto threat, but i hope today in this house, we can come together republicans and democrats and respond to the american people and we have a bipartisan vote that doesn't say no to refugees, it sauce pause the program unless and until the law enforcement experts are comfortable that we got a process. i urge my colleagues on both sides of the aisle to support this legislation. with that, mr. speaker, i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. the gentleman from virginia. mr. goodlatte: i yield the remainder of my time to the gentleman from south carolina, ask that he be mr. conyers: i yield to the gentleman from new york, mr. nadler. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. nadler: i rise in opposition to this bill that would block syrians come to the united states for years. the shocking events

have they been infiltrated by the radicals?e spent some time in the district and then muslim and then thought to be hiding out. it's become clearer because the concerns were ignored there. we spoke to friends of him and we said that the radicalization should have been obvious that had has been taking about it for the last year and watching the videos. we heard that he was in contact with friends of his, and now dispriet to make the way out to syria. what we know that is not so hard. the open borders here allowing to travel back and forth and then 5 hundreds have gone to fight isis and 130 have said to come back. two of the attackers are hidden among and coming across and that will spark a debate. he is in the city and wearing a suicide vest and agitated, and this continues over here and we have to see how it plays out over the next few days and big questions being asked, back to you judge. >> thanks so much. all right. so to recap what ben hall has told us 16 arrests in belgium and the main suspect in the paris attack is still

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have they been infiltrated by radicals. we spent time in the infamous district predominantly muslim. it's becoming clearer that concerns were ignored there in the lead up to the paris attacks. we folk friends who said he was talking jihad for the last year watching jihadi videos. we've heard that he has been in contact with friends of his by skype and he's desperate to make his way to syria. and from what we know, that trick is not so hard. the open borders here in europe allowing people to travel back and forth and 500 belgiums have gone to fight isis. and 130 are said to have come back. he's wearing a suicide vest. he's agitated and so this terror threat continues over here. we have to see how it plays out over the next few days. big questions being asked. back to you, judge. >> thank you so much. >>> all right. so to recap what ben just told us. 16 arrests in belgium. the main suspect in the paris attacks salah abdeslam still on the loose. it sounds like they didn't find much on the people that they did arrest in terms o

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radical ideas to actions? that's when you need to intercept them. >> which, of course, is the incredible difficulty, almost impossible to be able to do that. paul, salah abdeslam is still on the run. here we are, he's still on the run. >> that's right. he's still at large. he's got a lot of help from associates, those two associates from molenbeek that came to pick him up in paris the night of the attacks, drove him back to belgium and then another associate in brussels drove him somewhere else. they have that person now in custody. that could mean that they are closer to finding him. there's a big logical support network here. overall, this is the biggest scare we've ever seen in europe and the sheer number of people involved and supporting these perpetrators is really quite stunning, erin. >> it's stunning, phil. and now you see -- you've got obviously salah abdeslam's accomplices. they are looking for ten others, they say. you have 20,000 people now on a list in france. now the pendulum has swung to looking

they believe he had been radicalized. they did not have evidence they had gone on to terrorist activities. there's no precrime unit. you cannot arrest people purely on suspicion they might do something. that's a sciutto, thank you. cla ris 15 ward on top of this. you spoke to a man and a son who survived the attack that is absolutely a chilling account. what did they tell you? >> absolutely, poppy. horrifying account. this man was just desperate with fear that his son could potentially have been killed in the awful situation. they went on a friday night to enjoy a concert and instead met with a bloodbath. take a listen. >> we heard this bang, bang, bang, and like everybody else, thought it was fireworks or part of the show. and then i felt something go past my ear, i don't know -- was it a bullet or something, i didn't know what it was. and then i realized something's coming out, something's going towards the stage, everybody understood, everybody threw themselves on the ground, i stuck my head up to from the desk to see

has some connection to a radical group or radical ideology or is on a path that is considered dangerousso it is part of those tools we're the -- we're the deradicalization programs, family counseling programs, are part. early intervention programs or tools usually focus on the social environment of those persons who are about to become a violent radical. so we know from studies that there is a phenomenon called leakage, where many people leak some kind of information directly or indirectly to their friends, their families, their colleagues, employers, anyone around them. and these persons are usually the first one to notice a change, to notice a potential threat or danger. and in most cases these so-called gatekeepers do not reach out to the authorities or the police because they feel a strong sense of loyalty, obligation to their friends and family members. they fear what might happen to them. they fear that maybe they are making matters worse. maybe they are the ones responsible for the son or daughter being put into jail for 20 years. so we need to figure out a way to give these fami

he's believed to have been radicalized -- to have also radicalized his 13-year-old brother, if you cant. let's talk more about it with cnn international correspondent ivan watson in brussels with us. joined by cnn security expert peter bergen. you spoke to the belgian prosecutor and they said something that is incredibly disturbing. they are preparing for the worst and they can, quote, barely keep an eye on the 130 people who have returned from syria. 130 and they can barely keep an eye on them. >> well, that's right. i mean, belgium has this dubious distinction of being a major recruiting ground for jihadis who have been joining the islamic state and fighting in syria. this little country of 11 million people has had, by some estimates, close to 500 volunteer foreign fighters. according to belgian authorities, about 130 of them have since returned home. and the belgian federal prosecutor says the law enforcement here have their hands full, keeping an eye on them. they are the first priority category of radicalized belgian citizens. the two brothers who are key suspects in the paris at

there president is so driven by radical yitology been -- this president refuses to say the words radical islamic terrorism. they don't acknowledge the simple reality that the people they are bringing in are terrorists. i am leading the fight in the senate to stop barack obama and hillary clinton's plan to wri in syrian refugees. common senwe should shouldn't h isis terrorists coming back to america using u.s. pass poerts in ortd to page o wage. the second is legislation that i've deuced that would block refugees from libyaer with lshg and isis control large poreses of territory, . there these refugees can he resettled in the middle east. beer's already paying more ever that bill that be any country on earth, yet the president insists we have to -- when i brought both of these up on the senate floor the senate democrats stood up and objecten if the democrats can't tell difference between immigrants coming, huddled masses yirning to breathe free and that's what's wrong with foreign minister in the first place. >> there achange. contribu cultures. if you grew um under shoe raria, how do we

you're not going to be able to placate these radical groups by making nice to them. they only respect one thing. these are groups that are dedicated on conquering the world and convincing -- and imposing siria law and radical islam on the world. i don't say it because i believe it. i say it because they believe it. that's what they're saying, they're very clear about what they want to accomplish and we have to take that threat seriously and we have not. this president has not taken it seriously and many republicans the last several years have the no taken it seriously and i thought it was important to go out there and articulate a vision that if we want to be safe, if we don't want what happened in paris, what happened in this country, you know, several years, and it's happened -- we've had isolated attacks here in america and if we don't want other mass attacks here in the united states of america, we have to defeat the enemy where they are and isis is a serious threat. iran is even a bigger threat because of their ability to get a nuclear weapon thanks to this pres

a lot of radicals are deported.mit the range of debate in the united states in the 1920s. >> that was the point. the administration really did -- pretty transparent, they thought that this kind of advocacy would hurt the war effort so they wanted to stop it. >> malcolm is in park forest, illinois. >> caller: hi. how are you? listen, i'm very disturbed about what happened with those 47 legislators who sent a letter to iran when we had our president negotiating a deal with them. and what act does that fall under? i mean, a sitting president negotiating with an enemy that sponsors terrorism, then these 47 legislators sent a letter to them telling them not to trust our president. to me that sounds like treason or some type of act against our national security. and i think there should be hearings on that or sen sured in some way. what do you think? >> there are several laws people think about in that context. there is the broader notion of reason did, there's the espionage act, and another statute that prevents anybody