what do we make of the fact rahm emanuel even answered the question.'t have to be so definitive there. >> and he was not. this came up first in january. and he went out of his way, as did his press secretary, to try and tamp down, squash any discussion of him running for mayor. he is a message disciplined person. i think if he said it at this time, he said it because he knew what he was doing. and i think it is because he wants to put down his marker at this point. >> does this put any -- is he perhaps trying to put some pressure on mayor daley to -- >> no. >> this has nothing to do with that? >> it has nothing to do with that. rahm emanuel wouldn't be where he is today if it were not for mayor daley. mayor daley gave him his start in politics when he came back to chicago after serving in the clinton white house. one of the reasons he was able to help do what he did, make the fortune he did, were because of the connections that come out of his association with mayor daley. so, no. rule number one is, do not, do not, put pressure on mayor daley. >> i do

democrats as well have been raising money forever on wall street, whether it's rahm emanuel, chuck schumer, you yourself. democrats and republicans have both been raising money. not just mitch mcconnell going to wall street for the money. that's where the money is. a lot of people have so much anger right now at wall street. the gallup poll finds that when

i've never met rahm emanuel. i'm sorry. i won't pretend. if i were a real journalist i would lie and say rahm emanuel, he told me that. >> get me afterwards. [laughter] >> and a lady in pink had a second question she didn't you to ask and then the gentleman input and then you. and they will get over here. >> given the question communities precarious position in the west bank, how would you explain the anglican churches animosity towards israel? >> i can't. it's just silly. but again, human beings are hurt animals. i would say, do you want to understand journalists? they are hurt animals that and i saw that going back to 2006. a few pilot fish, like the "new york times," bbc, set the direction of the coverage and everyone jumps on it. in 2006, the "new york times," bbc, and a few others decided that the story of the 2006 war was going to be lebanese suffering and israel's barbarity toward the lebanese there is and all of the star journalists went to lebanon. and they read film the same dead baby coming out of the rubble again and again and a

rahm emanuel went on the charlie rose show and said that. listen to this and then your reaction. >> how is it "the new york times" knew about in before goldman sachs did, the filing of the complaint? >> i have no idea. >> soon thereafter, literally within an hour or so the white house was in terms of information -- >> everybody at the white house found out like everybody else, when it hit the news. >> when it hit "the new york times." ? >> no when it hit the news. sec is an independent agency, operates independently, nobody at the white house knew anything ahead of anybody else. >> there you go. >> if you google goldman sachs and sec it takes you to barack obama web page where you are invited to sign up presumably for petitions on this anybody who believes rahm emanuel on this >> you think his nose was growing? >> pinocchio on steroids. there's enerive in the media. the president says he believes in this, believes in that wc fields said everybody has to believe in something. i believe i'll have another drink. these guys in bed not only democ

. >> what is rahm emanuel's feelings about israel, and how much influence does rahm emanuel have on obama'srequest okay, i'm sorry. i not going to talk about president obama. i just don't do it. it's an act of disloyalty. i don't -- i'm not an obama supporter but he is my president. >> untracked eyesore, she had a second question. >> i want to know about rahm emanuel's feelings towards israel spent how can i answer that? i don't know. i've never met rahm emanuel. i'm sorry. i won't pretend. if i were a real journalist i would like that i would say oh, rahm emanuel. [inaudible] [laughter] >> there you go. delay in think i second question, then the gentleman in blue and then you. they will get over your. we will get them all. >> give in the christian communities precarious position, in the west bank, how would you explain the anglican churches against israel? >> i can't. it's just silly. but again, human beings are heard animals. i may, always a, do you want to understand journalists? they are heard animals. and i saw the going back to 2006. a few pilot fish lik like a near times, bbc said th

turns out rahm emanuel did make one call to blagojevich and recommended valerie jarrett, right? the next senator from the state of illinois. but if i'm rahm emanuel, i don't even want to talk to blagojevich. >> well, everybody knew by that point that blagojevich was hot. you are right about that and there were calls also between other people that were associated with obama, or at least according to the government's allegation. i think that what the blagojevich people are saying here is these calls were made because nothing wrong was going on. and we're entitled to present that evidence that nothing wrong was going on. when you talk about rezko, rezko wrote a letter to the judge after he got convicted and said the government is trying to get me to say bad things about obama and bad things about blagojevich and i don't have bad things to say. then he started meeting with the government and he said bad things about blagojevich. and i think they want to show that rezko makes stuff up by showing things that he said about obama possibly are false. so, therefore, the things he said abo

really clashed with the white house chief of staff rahm emanuel on a lot of complex legal issues. and so i can telo goldman sachs tell me they're kind of scratching their heads over why the company has brought greg craig on because he was somebody pushed out of the job as white house counsel here at the white house, so they're not sure that he's really going to have really good ties here to help the company right now. >> on the other hand, i guess, ed, you could look at it and say the positives for goldman sachs is that this is a man who knows the inner workings of washington even if he happened to tick off some people and he's a good lawyer. it could work in their favor. >> it could. because you're right. that's what's very positive about greg craig. he has a sterling reputation in this town as somebody who really understanding the intersection of the legal and the political. that dates back to the clinton impeachment trial. but on the other hand, this administration actually put in some tougher restrictions on lobbying and the revolving door you spoke about a moment ago. so greg

what they do is what rahm emanuel did the other night.secret and behind closed doors, all of those so-called fat cats who know they are going to get beaten up in public but will be taken care of behind the scenes. that's now this administration has operated rfm day one. the way to remedy that is get rid of the corruption. you cannot reform. the only way to do it is reduce the size of government. >> sean: is this as some are suggesting, barack obama's enron or do they get away with it in the end? >> i think that we have to keep screaming at the top of our lungs as long as they keep screaming fat cat and demoç goinging this. when you compare bush enron to obama enron scandal million in con waougss -- contributions from goldman sachs versus about 150,000 in donations from enron. yet, the liberal media the press the establishment hung that albatross around bush's neck. i don't think he pushed back far enough on it. that's what the republicans and conservatives have to do in this case, push back h@bd. >> sean: michelle malkin, thanks apprecia

rahm emanuel chief of staff and hillary clinton the former first lady and now the secretary of state.eneral jones a middle east envoy. george mitchell now the middle east envoy. dennis ross which whom you worked so closely in the clinton days. do you think they're still practicing a false religion? >> i told colin powell when i left government i would not criticize the administration's policy. that lasted about five seconds, frankly, after i left. >> you just said this administration doesn't have a policy. these are the players. >> absolute plip. there's no question that you're dealing with a group of extremely smart experienced and talent people. i think there are divisions within each administration. i think nine-tenths of barack obama's problem right now is that the israeli/palestinian problem about which he cares a great deal, about which he wants to see resolved is simply not tractable. the one part that is his problem has to do with how he is responding to the reality that there may well not be a solution. >> well, let me ask you in closing what do you do about some other issues

obama's chief of staff, rahm emanuel, was tolling pbs abc charlie rose that he would like to run for mayor in his hometown one day. and he hopes daily seeks re-election. >>> the food and drug administration is about to take the first steps 20 put legal limits on how much salt the americans eat. "the washington post" reports that the fda and the doesn't of agriculture would work with the food industry to lower how much salt foods can contain. high levels of salt increase the risk of heart disease and strokes. >>> the playoffs in the nba and nhl are very much in full swing. last night's highlights now from espn news. >> good morning. i'm steve weissman with your espn news update. we start in the nba, where joakim noah has been talking trash about the city of cleveland. well, lebron james, he likes the city. and does some talking with his game. big-time dunk over james johnson, who was left completely speechless. cavs up eight. just over four minutes to play in the half. bulls down five. noah got booed a lot. and lebron, cheered heartily. two blocks in the game for james. in the fourth

lindsey graham has been talking to the white house chief of staff rahm emanuel about a deal he would help them get the money to close-- graham would, close guantanamo will the administration would let khalid shaikh mohammed and others terrorists be tried not in u.s. civilian trials, but in military commissions, is that going anywhere. >> i don't think it's going anywhere much paul. guantanamo remember we used to talk about social security as the third rail of politics, a toxic issue no one would touch. virtually all of these are third rails because of the glare and publicity they get from the media these days. we went through health care and ended up with reconciliation, the most arcane in the congress and 75% of americans can talk in depth about reconciliation, right? >> unfortune turn to the country. >> to do what we have to do for a living, poor america. >> i don't think gitmo has a problem like that. they may on another national security issue be able to pass this treaty that the president just signed with the russians, the strategic arms reduction treaty start. i think that the

we were watching closely rahm emanuel on "charlie rose."s d k declaration that he wants to be mayor of chicago? >> reporter: no, he has made that clear. he has said it publicly before, that someday he aspires to be mayor of chicago. i think everybody is hoping that somehow he gets to lead here by going to run for mayor of chicago. that there isn't this feeling that somehow he's got to leave with not his tail between his legs% then i think we could see, you know, from there, i think he would immediately move back to chicago and run if daley didn't run. >> okay. interesting day. chuck todd live at the white house, thank you very much. we'll be watching you and savannah on "the daily rundown" right after "morning joe." >>> and coming up, a big victory in the fight against al qaeda in iraq. details next. >>> and waiting on deck, "the new york times'" andrew ross sorkin. >> bigger. >> too big to fail. >> he is. >> keep it right here on "morning joe" brewed by starbucks. [ female announcer ] it's rollback time at walmart. right now, walmart has r

. >> reporter: this sunday, white house chief of staff rahm emanuel attended a dinner party with the top white house figures, with goldman director and obama found reyeser david heller. the latest in this, white house counsel greg craig agreed to defend goldman. an awkward situation in which the white house refuses to comment. candidate obama accepted $990,000 from goldman employees or family members, making goldman the second largest institutional donor to his white house campaign. goldman is pouring money in the mid-term election cycle, $700,000 so far and 70% received by democrats. harry reid received $4,900 from goldman. he refused to answer reporters' questions today as to whether he would give the donation back. of the top ten recipients of the goldman cash so far this election cycle, eight are democrats. >> bret: story that we'll likely hear more of. major, thanks. there are some questions about the timing of the s.e.c. announcement of its action against goldman sachs. fox business network correspondent peter barnes is here with that part of the story. good evening. >> good ev

it's also been reported that members of the obama transition team, including chief of staff rahm emanuele in communication with blagojevich about the seat and might be on the wiretap calls. defense attorneys say obama on the sta stand could sort tha out. presidents from time to time are called as witnesses. president clinton gave videotape deposition led by ken starr. other reasonses were reagan, carter and ford. judge zageal will make the call on the motion to get the president subpoenaed. the white house has no comment. >> bret: not surprising there. is the potential it could get ugly for the white house? >> it's possible. but zaigls a pretty no-nonsense judge. if there is no intent by the prosecution to bring in recording including the white house staffers or perhaps anybody on the obama transition team, it's unlikely seemingly he would allow a deposition of the president videotaped or not. >> bret: we'll follow it. thanks. the justice department says it will appeal a federal judge's ruling declaring a national day of prayer unconstitutional. district court judge barbara crabb wrote i

the same thing is probably true for rahm emanuel who is deeply involved in that.t of that is politics. one of the dangers we have is we're criminalizing things that are part of how the normal daily political operation works. i would expect a president of the united states to have an opinion about who might fulfill his seat in talking to incumbent governor. the fact the governor is about to be indicted and he may turn out to be a crook and it's after all springfield, that is a different set of problems. >> mike: i agree. i think we have created a society if we can't disagree with the person's views, then we try to attack them personally and criminalize them. which destroys the opportunity to have a decent government evolve. we have both been on the receiving end of that as well as playing the game of politics. it's not pleasant and not something we want to -- >> it's also dangerous for the country. think about it for a second. you actually like the president to try to help get the best possible senator for his seat in his home state. the idea he somehow is -- that

week which is this is more complicated than i thought it was going to be, he really should ask rahm emanuel about these things. you see again the intractability of american relations overseas. you see that it is not a problem of a stupid man without good manners in a world that is waiting for a nice american president. you see that the disagreements are profound, they are real, they are a tractable. to the extent that they are manageable, they are manageable. you see an iraq that the basic policy that was in place, once bush invaded, remained in place. once obama took power, which is withdraw, slowly moving to the door carefully, hoping no one notices, before the civil war starts again. woods, almost made it. in afghanistan, the strategy is as was self-evident from the beginning, not to win the war but to set the stage for negotiation for the taliban. that would buy before karzai was shifted to palm springs. but the problem is that the taliban knows the united states will leave. and even if the president hadn't said that, the red herring, he knew they knew they would leave. at next-door is

>> sean: during an interview last night with charlie rose rahm emanuel still plans for running for officene day. >> always an aspiration even when i was in the house of representatives. >> mayor of chicago? >> yes. >> sean: there's a bright side at least he didn't say he wanted to run for president. more hannity, straight ahead. i have diabetes, and sometimes i wonder why are my numbers all over the place? are you looking for answers? the accu-cheiva syst now has new tools to helpou discover what your numbers mea and how the things you do are connected to your blood sugar patterns. [ michelle ] with this tool i can see how food and the time of day affect mnumbers. i discovered how to wake up feeling great. [ male announcer ] disver the accu-cheaviva system and save with a prescription discount card. start your discovery today. >> sean: we are now over two weeks away from election day in the united kingdom. the conservative movement across the pond is very much in the hunt just as republicans expect to be come november here in the u.s.. the latest poll has liberal democrats barely in the l

. >> brown: white house chief of staff rahm emanuel also sounded hopeful on monday, in an interview with p.b.s. charlie rose. >> i think it will be bipartisan, because i think people realize, charlie, that while it's been 14 months, 12 months, and there are still damages from that crisis, that you have a financial system over the last 20 years that raced ahead of where the regulatory system was. >> brown: but the bipartisan road ahead remains uncertain. today, the senate agriculture committee moved to update part of the regulatory system-- imposing curbs on derivatives, but largely on party lines. derivatives are complex financial instruments that allow traders to bet on the direction of prices of stocks and other assets and much else. some derivatives are well-known, like corn futures, and lock in prices for goods that fluctuate in value. more exotic derivatives, including credit default swaps, have been blamed for fueling the global financial crisis. the senate committee approved strict limits on big banks trading in derivatives. and it required nearly all derivatives contracts to be t

democrats as well have been raising money forever on wall street, whether it's rahm emanuel, chuck schumer, you yourself. democrats and republicans have both been raising money. not just mitch mcconnell going to wall street for the money. that's where the money is. a lot of people have so much anger right now at wall street. the gallup poll finds that when people talk about regulating banks, there's a marginal, you know, a narrow support for that. when they talk about regulating wall street, it jumps to 14 points. it's a toxic phrase now. it's been demonized by some people, fair point. but isn't there a revolving door that feeds this? let's talk about some of the lobbyists on this. our former leaders trent lott and gephardt, democrats, republicans, all sorts of people formerly in the house and senate in major roles are now lobbying right now on financial services. what does that tell the american public and do you think there's something wrong with this system? >> there's something wrong with the campaign funding system. as you know, andrea, i've been a long time supporter of public financ

rahm emanuel -- [inaudible] >> the lady in pink of a second question to ask, then the gentleman in blue, then you and i will go over here. >> given the christian communities precarious position in the west bank, how would you explain the anglican churches of animus against israel? >> i can't. it's just silly. but again, human beings are hurt animals. i mean, i always say, you want to understand journalists, their people rethink their rugged individuals but they really hurt animals. and i saw that back in 2006. a few pilot fish, like "the new york times," the bbc, set the direction of the coverage and everybody jumps on it. in a 2006, the new york times, bbc, decided that the story of the 2006 war is going to be a lebanese suffering and israel's barbarity towards the lebanese. all the star journalists went to lebanon and debris found at the same dead baby coming out of the rubble again and again and again and they all follow the same stories. and i'm sorry, when i sat there at caboose sauce for several days and i saw one other journalist on the front lines while within have it salsa. jic

do you believe that rahm emanuel and the other powers behind the throne are saying, look, anybody whoama, we can go after them as a racist because that's been used particularly by the media when you criticize obama, you become suspect, maybe you are a racist. maybe you are doing this because he is black. >> well, i can't speak to what rahm owe manual and company say in private. but certainly this is the case. it seems to me that the fact that people are vigorously criticizing barack obama just like people vigorously criticized every other president of the united states is evidence of how far america has come beyond its racist past. i mean barack obama is the president of the united states. he is out there getting criticized and that's the great american tradition. >> bill: all right. but you do feel that the racism label is being used as a political tool. >> absolutely. >> bill: by the democratic party. >> and has been for many years. >> bill: all right. thank you very much. i appreciate it plenty more ahead as the factor moves along this evening. program south park mocks the prophet

rahm emanuel, joe biden, all lobbying. she calls obama to tell him that she's not going to take the job and they have this incredible late-night phone call where the two of them, where she kind of tells him why she doesn't want the job. he excels at those are all good reason for him to not want the job. she's burdened with their debt, titan was to go home. she thinks her husband will be a difficult distraction if she takes the job that he's as i understand all that but i need you to do the job. the economic crisis will be huge. it will consume a lot of my first term. i need some in the state department who is calm, competent and understand for incompetent whose hand i don't have to alter your country need you and i need you to be a success as president. after everything that's happened between them in this kind of epic arc of the relationship, it's an extraordinary moment because when the moment when she kind of admits her husband can be a problem, something she's never done before throughout the campaign, and every time b

it the time for the president, we have been told by people close to the president, rahm emanuel has beenn and show eric holder what needs to be done. >> shannon: congressman peter king of new york. thank you for your time today. >> thank you as always. >>> volcanoic ash crippled air travel. we will talk to greg palkot on the phone and get an update on what he is seeing,. >>> and senator john mccain. is he a maverick or isn't he?vs we will get you hear his take, coming up next. who grew my soup, well, here they are. ♪ so many, many reasons ♪ it's so m'm! m'm! good! ♪ we get dole miles on every purchase. so we earned a ski trip twice as fast. we get double miles every time we use our card. ( thuds ) i'll take this. ( crashing ) double miles add up quick. and all of those. so we brought the whole gang. one adult, one goat please. it's hard to beat double miles. everyone knows two is better than one. introducing the venturcard from capital one... with double miles on every pchase every day. go to capitalone.com. wht's in your waet? oh, poor baby. wouldgo to capitalone.com. you go next if you

rahm emanuel the white house chief of staff, joe biden, she finally decides i'm not going to take the job and she tells him finally that she's not going to take the job and they have this incredible late night phone call where the two of them -- where she kind of tells him why she doesn't want the job. he accepts that those are all good reasons for her not to want the job. she burdened with her debt. she's tired. she wants to go home. she thinks her husband would be a difficult distraction if he takes the job. i understand that. the economic crisis will consume my job. i need someone who's fully competent whose hand i don't have to cold. your country needs you and i need you to be a success as a president. and after everything that's happened between them in this kind of epic arc of their relationship, it's an extraordinary moment. because when the moment she kind of admits that her husband can be a problem, something she's never done throughout the campaign. every time bill clinton has done anything that's politically detrimental to her and she defends him. to her closest allies she

rahm emanuel has a good relationship with him and so does the president. many people here do. i do not know the degree to which that has complicated his life. that in working with this administration to solve problems. i think there is no doubt that he has heard from republicans in the leadership and in his home state in not wanting that progress to be lit up. >> he said the chief of staff spoke with senator gramm on friday. did the senator tell him that you are yanking my support and energy because of senator reid? >> i think this had percolated for a while. >> when the president travels to the midwest, will he be putting financial regulation on the agenda? >> i do anticipate the the president will mention it at one of the town hall meetings and over the course of time. >> but just a mention rather than a full speech on it? >> look, i think he laid out a pretty comprehensive speech just last week on the need for moving this thing forward. i think the time for the day let -- the delay on this is passed. the time for moving this forward and having action is where we are at righ

ron emmanuel -- rahm emanuel -- host: here is "usa today" who say that the financial industry has gone to d.c. insiders. host: that is usa today. we have jane on the republican line. caller: i hope that we have a great discussion about this bill. we have the return of the robber barons from 100 years ago. we have not gone back to using that term again. we cannot chase the money out of the country. we have to be mindful of what the international financial industry is doing. when we put something in place, and the more conservative regime comes in, we have to make certain that we can fund this. this has to work. i am conservative, to the people who are listing. even george soros said that we have to regulate the banks. they should not stop regulating them. this is not good for us. we had a hand, the united states financial community, in collapsing the economy of other countries. host: you may be interested in the "financial times." george soros has an article. he has said that credit defaults locks can be used as a license to kill. if you are interested in reading that, that is in the "f

her husband thinks it would be great for, rahm emanuel, joe biden, all lobbies for to take the job.finally called him to decide that they will not -- that she will not take the top, and had this incredible late-night phone call where she tells him why she does not want the job and he accept ththat those are all good reasons -- she is burdened with debt, she is tired and wants to go home -- he understands all that, but he says, "i need you to take this job. with the economic crisis will be a huge part of my first term might need someone who understands foreign policy whose hand i do not have to hold, and i need you and the country needs you." after everything with this at the arc of their relationship, it is an extraordinary moment. the moment she admits her husband might be a problem, something she never did in the campaign -- anything bill clinton did something considered politically detrimental, and she defends him. she never takes any other side, totally loyal to her husband. now she is not saying not disloyal, but admitting to barack obama that there is a political vulnerability

emanuel, brother of rahm emanuel, omb official, made a bet with justice scalia. who won? happened is three days after the massachusetts senate results when scott brown won, zeke emanuel run into justice scalia and said, despite scot scott brown, i guarantee you health care will still pass. the original bet was $5, justice scalia was hesitant about making bets but zeke was able to convince him to take him out to dinner if he wins at a very expensive restaurant in d.c. obviously, zeke emanuel won. so paparazzi will be camped outside the restaurant waiting to see what will be one of the more interesting dinners we've seen in d.c. >> that's a summit meeting for you. >> does that mean he has to recuse himself when health care comes up before the court? >> let's send it to those guys playing tennis. scalia is a great ten miss player. >> i did not know that. >> sometimes he plays with larry summers and they are both fantastic tennis players. >> larry summers? >> swear to god. no joke. >> larry summers doesn't eat well. >> i hope there's a doctor somewhere when those two play tenn

know that, but i'd sure like to hear the straight story about what went on with the president and rahm emanuel and the representatives of aarp. i'd like to know what went on with the health insurance companies and why so many of them supported this. this goes -- this is anathema to their beliefs. could they have just concluded that the federal government is going to compel everybody to buy health insurance, therefore it's a bigger market for them? and why would they -- why would they feed the alligator, hoping they get eaten last? haven't they seen the pattern? do i need to explain this, mr. speaker? ok, i will. i'm glad you nodded in the affirmative. that would be this. back in the 1960's, i think the year would have been 1962 and 1963, we had at that time all the property and casualty flood insurance in america was private. not government. and because we'd had some floods, there was an argument in the congress that the federal government should provide competition in the flood insurance business. and so, the federal flood insurance program began just to keep the insurance companies honest an

they have not done quite a good as job as rahm emanuel in 2006.oint it is -- it's too close to call, but it's certainly within their reach. >> so, in the senate is it a tougher fight for the gop? or not? >> it is tougher for republicans in the senate. they would need to win absolutely every race they have going here. in places like florida that you just mentioned, you know, it's a problem for them if charlie crist decides this week to run as an independent. that could be the best and really the only life line the democrat there, kendrick meek, has had.y#+: republicans will, no doubt, win a lot of seats and narrow their majority in the senate. but it's pretty hard to see the path where they would win control. >> what about barbara boxer, is even she in control if california? >> she is in trouble in california. that has some democrats worried. if barbara boxer is in trouble, what does that mean fort rest of them? even if they lose that seat, republicans still have four open seats, new hampshire, ohio, missouri and in florida where they have to defen

her husband thinks it would be great, rahm emanuel, joe biden lobbying her to take the job.she decides i'm not been to take the job and she calls obama to tell him i'm not going to take the job and they have this incredible late night phone call where the two of them -- she tells him why she doesn't want the job. he accepts that those are all good reasons to a lot on the job. she's burdened with debt, tighter, wants to go home, she thinks her husband will be a difficult distraction if she takes the job and he says understand that but i need you to do this job. the economic crisis is going to be huge and is going to consume a huge part of my first term. i need someone in the state to part with who is fully competent and understands foreign policy whose hand i don't have to hold. your country needs you and i need you to be success as a president. and after all that's happened between this epic arc of their relationship is an extraordinary moment because when the moment she kind that makes her husband can be a problem, something she's never done before through the campaign to r

them up and take that oath and testify before congressional hearings, what were you offered by rahm emanuel? what were you offered by the president of the united states? if you're aarp and your job is to represent the senior citizens that are your members, i want the representatives of aarp to come in and tell us, what the offer you could sell insurance to our members so good and so high that you decided to sell out your own members? what was it that fciu got? what was it that the big farmer got? what happened to the 165 million dollars that they promised they would commit in an ad campaign in order to sell obamacare to america so that big farmer could have a larger market that was mandated by the federal government? what were the deals that were made? we need to know that. if we can drag c.e.o.'s of private american corporations before the united states congress and if henry waxman can threaten to -- well, yesterday was the day he was going to do it and he canceled it. i think he thought better of it. i think if henry waxman can bring c.e.o.'s before the united states congress and allege t