six thirty this seven thirty an hour before to interview a celebrity's hopefully jesse ventura ralph nader hope to see him tomorrow in d.c. and ron paul just just got you know now knows about what we're doing so fingers crossed that ok sounds like a plan to third party movements i mean the conventional wisdom seems to be the third party movements whole away from you know that if you vote green you're really voting against a democrat if you vote libertarian you're really voting against a republican how do you respond that thinking that's a two party system brainwashing us but if you go back to the origins of the constitute constitution you'll see there is no mention of corporations no mention of party is what i'm learning here a free and equal elections is that parties really don't work and working directly with this campaign there's a disconnect between the green libertarian the campaigns and the parties and i see the candidates as individuals so i do of course see a huge movement of independent youth out there eight hundred twenty eight everybody running for office is so much bigger than

i suppose in two thousand but it really needs to be done now both ross perot and ralph nader called by some people spoilers people who they you know those candidates they were said to have taken votes away from what do you think about that notion that these candidates are spoilers or that a vote for these candidates are wasted votes. if you're a partisan if you're a democratic or republican partisan then yeah you could you could characterize it as such the fact the matter is that ralph nader did not you know cause al gore to lose the vote in florida al gore actually won the vote in florida as the recount a year later found the supreme court handed the presidency off to george w. bush not the voters of florida but you know all that said i think that you know if you look at the rest of the democracies around the world third party fourth party fifth party now this is these are some because of structural problems our constitution pretty much drives a two party system. but we could change it with things like i r.v.'s are a voting proportional representation of what those other countries

almost no attention and yet you know third party candidates you know they're often called spoilers ralph nader back in two thousand ross perot in one thousand nine hundred two but you know they weren't invited to these main debating even in the primaries leading up to picking romney as the republican nominee talk a little bit about that process. that's because the system is greg again the creation of the australian ballot the ballot access varies so difficult for candidates to get on the ballot the days of it debates are close we have that voting methods we need to implement proportional representation these are the sort of things that we hope to inspire people as they see these candidates yesterday gary johnson from the libertarian party of the bee jill stein from the green party rocky anderson from the justice party and virgil goode from the constitution party and all these four candidates i see for me i personally see them as individuals i don't even think the party system works because the origins of the constitution our forefathers it doesn't even mention parties in the constitution so i

i'm not ralph nader. i don't think there's no difference. there is a difference. don't know what the difference is though because i think there are -- there is a possibility that obama would be say more aggressive, a more aggressive reformer or changer in the second act of his presidency. and i don't know how mitt romney would govern. he might govern as a

what think ralph nader. [applause] >> for more information about ralph nader and is book, visit 17 solutions.com. here's a look at books being published this week: >> we are here and tv on c-span 2. we want to introduce you to author elizabeth ames, was written a book with steve forbes, how capitalism -- "how capitalism will save us: why free people and free markets are the best answer in today's economy." elizabeth ames, first of all, tell us about yourself and your personal experience, particularly when it comes to economics. >> well, then a financial journalist, but i've also been on both sides of the press release. so i started as a journalist and had my own pr business and have also done projects, other communications projects for clients. among them, co-authoring books. and basically i've worked with steve forbes on books and conversations led to the idea for this book. >> how did you meet steve forbes? >> i imagine many years ago an event that i did when i was working at the university of southern cal

of governor johnson's efforts oh don't be fooled by back in the last election when they labeled ralph nader's a spoiler there's like over twenty candidates that ran in florida that had enough votes to change the elections again the real issue here is the two party stranglehold of the system the people in office the d's and r.'s alike are controlled by the central banks which is controlled by the federal reserve which are the powerful guys at the top so if you want to hear the real issues go on our web site free equal dot org and reserve today reserve to watch our online live feed of the debate october twenty third it's actually going to be at the hilton chicago now we outgrew the university club so we're really excited about that again at three equal dot org for real elections all action shall be free and equal what constitution what about the role of the mainstream media here i mean do you expect this will know you're going to have a live streaming on the web site but do you expect this is something that's going to be covered by by the major news networks it's huge we are announcing a world

back in ninety two it was time that we saw it seriously out at a national level and to some extent ralph nader i suppose in two thousand but it really needs to be done now. tom hartman talking about the last time we had a third party candidate in the mainstream debate of course that is ralph nader. back in one thousand excuse me ross perot ross were out. back at night we haven't seen that with the last time we did see it on this level what do you think it would take. for the us to see that again to have three podiums up there man i think just public pressure i think i think what we're doing as a network which is making the corporate media relevant offering the platform for third parties to really put their message out there because really what we saw last night was that these two establishment candidates have no significant differences when it comes to foreign policy so we as americans when we're voting for either of these candidates we don't have a choice other than to be that imperialist aggressive military force in the world going around colonizing i mean so really what the third parties do

we talked earlier with ralph nader.really helping any of the other people down ballot. mitt romney has gone out in part of his campaign and he's campaigning for those folks running down ballot from him. talk about the difference and how that can impact voter turnout and results. >> you havet to actually have a principal and philosophy that awakens people and makes them optimistic, and just the notion of change is enough to really make a difference, so i think you're going to see that continue, and as a result, mitt romney willnd continue to grow s lead because once again, he's reaching the people that you talk about, state legislators accuracacross the country at evr level. they know the impact its had hag in the local community. they want to say goodbye to barack obama. >> huckabee: well, maybe they will. all right. his unwillingness to compromise cost him his congressional seat. is there any real stick hope for non-par sanshinon-part tanship ? i'll ask when we come back. find someone who can build a futuristic dash bo

where's ralph nader?> the famous phrase of something living in an trying to create an alternative economy. it's actually a beltway economy, which is to say a political insiders economy. all of these environmental around political insiders who are able to get the money out of the federal government to invest in it. this is where you get the birth of the phrase crony capitalism. the irony is that they accuse republicans of it, but what booth but what obama is seeding entire garden of cronyism. >> i asked the question, and the answer, we have to decide whether we want to participate in these new technologies, this new industry, and that's a political decision. we ought to invest in these technologies so they don't go overcast. >> there's a role for government and basic research, but another thing entirely to put $535 million into a solyndra or $249 million into an a123 systems. they're taking risks that private sector investors can take with their own money. they're risking my money on solyndra and a123. a12

for president. >> in 2000, 64% of the american people wanted to see ralph nader on thin the debate.e was escorted by police out of the presidential debate arena. he filed a lawsuit and the commission had to issue a formal apology, the $25,000 donation to a pro-democracy organization. >> glenn greenwald, you have talked about the vast majority facing the united states todaye@ will not be addressed during this debate process. can you talk about some of those issues that will be and have them excluded? >> the list of consequential issues that will be completely ignored by these debates because the two parties agree is vastly longer than the list of issues they disagree on and will be talked about. if you look at a foreign policy, ec president obama engaging in endless war, attacking various countries which runs, killing innocent people, claiming the right to assassinate american citizens without a whiff of transparency or to process, waging war on whistleblowers, prosecuting more than all previous presidents together. we have a policy of punishing people for drug usage that is racist i

great ideas, but too simple. >> carl bernstein, rana, ralph nader, thanks for all of you. and we'll be right back 37. 7. . . >>> mitt romney isn't just reconsidering his comments about the 47%. he's also talking about the nation's top 1%. >> the rich in this country are actually doing better under president obama. the gap between the rich and the poor has gotten larger. the rich will probably do fine even if he's re-elected. >> joining me to talk about this ongoing fight over the 99% versus the 1%, digital editor at thompson reuters, krista freeland. it's good to see you. you wrote this fantastic article in the new yorker. i thought it was rifting. you talk about a group of billionaires and how angry they are at president obama. in fact, they think they're being victimized by the president. givenl what we just heard from mitt romney, what is going on here? >> this is sort of the mystery that i tried to, you know, reveal, understand in my piece is the 1% and not even the 1%, sort of the 0.1%, the 0.01%, people who are even wealthier than mitt romney is, that group actually

i'm not ralph nader. you know what i mean? i don't think there's no difference.difference. i don't know what the difference is, though. because i think -- i think there is a possibility that obama would be, say, more aggressive -- a more aggressive or reformer in the second act of his presidency. and i don't really know how -- i also don't know how mitt romney would govern. he might govern as a technocrat. like the guy from pepsi who comes in to run gm. he can't tell us what he'll do because he hasn't seen the books yet. we don't know, because he seems absolutely sincere as a moderate and pretty sincere as a severe conservative. so that's not a dig. it's honest confusion. he's got a good shot of winning. if he does, i hope he's a good president. if obama wins, i hope he keeps some of the promises he didn't keep the first time. but i have no idea how it changes for us. by but i knows there got to be a difference between these two men or we're all part of a huge, cruel joke. >> the real steven colbert. >>> coming up, your texts and e-mails and "morning joe" moments

great ideas, but too simple. >> carl bernstein, rana, ralph nader, thanks for all of you. and we'll be right back 37. 7. . . [ horn honks ] [ male announcer ] you start your day... love you, too. ...thinking about what's important to you -- your family... ...the mortgage... the kids' college tuition. [ cellphone ringing ] but life insurance? [ horn honking ] life is unpredictable. that's why at fidelity life we want you to think about term life insurance -- taking care of your family's future expenses if something happens to you. it's easy. we get to know you and your needs, then give you our best quote and our competitors'. you choose and save up to 70%. that could mean $250,000 of coverage for just $15 a month. we offer plans with no medical exam, and we've been in business for over 100 years. call fidelity life. ♪ or visit fidelitylife.com for your free quote. [ horn honks ] hey, honey. do we have life insurance? ♪ [ male announcer ] or visit fidelitylife.com to secure your family's future today. >>> mitt romney isn't just reconsidering his comments about the 47%. he's

neil: now ralph had enough. nader on a government that grows and not saving anything.. neil: you heard the fiscal cliff is coming whether we over talk about it or not, and the debt is soaring, and washington, well, they are just dad ling. the economy's still struggling. a new report showing the government spends more on welfare programs last year than anything else. nader says the country's in crisis and needs ideas proposing re-examining about everything we do part of the 17 solutions, and it's author, ralph nader is here. ralph, good to see you. >> thank you, neil. neil: what did we do, the left and the right, wrong in doing budgets? >> we didn't allocate them in the areas that spell fairness and economic development for the majority of the people, but dumped into military, weapons systems, obsolete, wars of aggression. that's not productive for jobs back home. there's a tax system with perverse incentives, doesn't provide incentives for productive things, but provides speculation, and the third, and most re-elected lant is that we don't have an adequate public works

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ralph nader and the others who have come forward to go to the battle you're kind of don quixote's in a way but the. but women have a way of stopping and we have a way of saluting you just for getting into the fray so i thank you for your efforts all you've done i also salute christina. how did. these get the wind speeds up how do i was for you and me will start well came from my dad you may recall when he ran for governor here back in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight and so today is his birthday happy birthday dad and his goodbye like they're him and taxpayers united america lives through him and so now we have green equal elections a nonpartisan organization uniting the grassroots movement across the spectrum to break the stranglehold of two party system to bring the power back to the people. you know. even as i'm closing remarks i want to thank gary johnson jewel stone. and virgil goode for participating in this was my pleasure to be here and i thank you all very much and thanks to the audience as well. the over the. top of the coach. i want to lay i want to think larry king

could become a spoiler in the election for example in the year two thousand independent candidate ralph naderwas seen as a spoiler who contributed to the victory of george w. bush so it seems their solution is to black out alternative candidates and convince the american people that they have no other choice but barack obama and mitt romney and the mainstream media here are very much part of that black house. she's going that she can live from washington guy and then he thanks indeed for your perspective. and see host tom hartman took part in the key event and he says party candidates will continue to be barred from the big picture until they start to puncturing to british interests. the seizure of constitutional rights. the right to not be snooped upon the right to not be arrested and held without charges the the right to be. told without due process of law these are all things the largely started out of the bush administration had been continued by the obama administration and the and it was virtually unanimous consent across the group that they were opposed to so you see the far left in th

share in common and also for clarifying that point joe in two thousand we saw michael moore at ralph nader rally yelling you know the lesser of two evils is still evil and then you saw him in two thousand and four kind of on his literally on his hands and knees begging nader not to run on the bill maher show and on top of that i want to play you something that noam chomsky just said which i found very interesting let's take a listen to that. person that was in the swings. against romney ryan. who are. some of the troops. could. approach. the beginning of some. cool turn. but the so joe what do you think about this prominent kind of intellectual left wing figures falling back and as a status front line of lesser of two evils and what happened. well you know i'm i'm grateful for cities. so poor. and the state where he lives which is as a chooses i'm very grateful for. that our campaign is the way that we start building a politics of integrity and alternative for the long haul which we desperately need you know i think there's there's a difference between the academics who are you know and th

control of the two party you know what they have the two party my mom police or dictatorship as ralph nader and you have called it and the really the only recourse is to not vote for them but getting the american public to do that is next to impossible because they also have the media in their back pocket you know you know what they do to third party candidates they always call them wing nuts and they've got names for them and they don't take them serious and this and that and so that leads the public to believe that you're only left with two choices i like to look at it like this it's like walking into the grocery store and you go to the soft drink department and the only thing available to you is coke and pepsi they're both colos one slightly sweeter than the other but there's no mountain dew there's no root beer there's no seven up there's nothing like that all you have to choose from is coke and pepsi and remember the two gangs pick your president because they make two choices of two gang members and then you're expected to pick between that and always remember what the late great jerry

joining me is ralph nader. >>> thank you for being here and nice to see you. [ applause ] >>> i want you to speak to the criticism of the debate. i think it is more like a game show and i found your thoughts most compelling. what is wrong with the debates as we have them? >>> they are controlled by the republican and democrat nominees. the debate commission was created to get rid of the league of women voters. they thought the ladies were too uppity and restrict the number of debates and decide who will ask the questions and decide the formal of the debate and they are given the topics ahead of time. that's why the debates that we have seen kept off of the table so many of the subject marries that are on the minds of american people. like for example. what are we going to do with the tax system that lets off wall wall speculator and how about minimum up and adjusted for inflation. and help 30 million workerings. overwhelming number of americans believe minimum wage should be adjusted for inflation cracking down on corporate crime. and getting rid of corporate welfare and croiny capit

. >> geraldo: but in 2000, you had ralph nader the green candidate.took 45 votes from al gore who was defeated by less than 600 votes. is that your dream, ambition or nightmare? >> my dream. the notion that the issues would actually come to the forefront and be discussed and debated, as they should be. as opposed to believing that santa claus is going to come or the easter bunny or the tooth fairy. we have difficult problems. the away with the loopholes. crony capitalism is alive and well. both parties have the hands up to sell loopholes. individual group and corporations paying for them. issue pink slips to washington by adopting federal consumption tax. >> geraldo: you are delightful. >> you're delightful. thank you. thank you. >> geraldo: thank you very much. >> thank you. music: "make someone happy" music: "make someone happy" ♪it's so important to make someone happy.♪ it's so important to make meone happy.♪ ♪make just one someone happy ♪and you will be happy too. you know it can be hard to lbreathe, and how that feels.e, copd includes chronic bro

neil: but this could be 2000 with ralph nader, but in florida he might have flipped it. >> how many statesip for romney? you know it is the same situation. neil: you don't buy argument you flip more states hurting mitt romney than the president. >> you know, i'm believing that if people vote for person they think is really going to do the best job. making that case it is me, but, that is how we change the system. voting for who we believe in. neil: i think you could cross the threshold. but could you get the 19% i think in 1992 this ross perot got? >> if i was, you know right now, i'm at 5 or 6%. let me point out obvious, do you hear my name every 6 times you hear obama's name 45 times, not close. if i was just given the due they earned to this point, i think i might be next president of the united states because of the focus on what i have done. >> the problem we have several third party candidates green party, and the right, do we have to coalesce around a third party? >> no, i think that this is, speaking with that broad brush, i think that majority of americans are fiscally responsibil

. >> geraldo: but in 2000, you had ralph nader the green candidate. he took 45 votes from al gore who was defeated by less than 600 votes. is that your dream, ambition or nightmare? >> my dream. the notion that the issues would actually come to the forefront and be discussed and debated, as they should be. as opposed to believing that santa claus is going to come or the easter bunny or the tooth fairy. we have difficult problems. the away with the loopholes. crony capitalism is alive and well. both parties have the hands up to sell loopholes. individual group and corporations paying for them. issue pink slips to washington by adopting federal consumption tax. >> geraldo: you are delightful. >> you're delightful. thank you. thank you. >> geraldo: thank you very much. >> thank you. ♪ [ male announcer ] this is karen and jeremiah. they don't know it yet, but they're gonna fall in love, get married, have a couple of kids, children laughing ] move to the country, d live a long, happy life together where they almost never fight about money. [ dog barks ] be

the same year, ralph nader launched a write-in campaign. nader's best showing was in 2000 when he received 2.9 million votes. gore won the popular vote that year. in florida, nader got over 97,000 votes. i would say that was enough to make up for the 537,000 gap that made up the race for george w. bush. some people called him a spoiler but nader hated the term. he blasted "the wall street journal," believe it or not, for using such a political bigoted word. he argued that candidates shouldn't be treated as second-class citizen. earlier this year, ron paul made a run for the republican nomination finishing second in multiple primaries before dropping his bid. he gave hope to some other candidates trying to pick up the third-party mantel. they could have an impact where voters may be dissatisfied. former congressman is on the ballot in eight of the nine battleground state. jill stein is on the battle in seven of them. and if you live in nevada and don't like any of the candidates, you can vote none of the above. but the best opportunity to im

. >> geraldo: but in 2000, you had ralph nader the green candidate.e took 45 votes from al gore who was defeated by less than 600 votes. is that your dream, ambition or nightmare? >> my dream. the notion that the issues would actually come to the forefront and be discussed and debated, as they should be. as opposed to believing that santa claus is going to come or the easter bunny or the tooth fairy. we have difficult problems. the away with the loopholes. crony capitalism is alive and well. both parties have the hands up to sell loopholes. individual group and corporations paying for them. issue pink slips to washington by adopting federal consumption tax. >> geraldo: you are delightful. >> you're delightful. thank you. thank you. >> geraldo: thank you very much. >> thank you. thank you. bob... oh, hey alex. just picking up some, brochures, posters copies of my acceptance speech. great! it's always good to have a backup plan, in case i get hit by a meteor. wow, your hair looks great. didn't realize they did photoshop here. hey, good call on those mug

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