up hea you heard, boom, rand paul hasn't let me down. what's rand paul's rally back? >> i always stammer when i talk about rand paul because he's just a little different there and what i'm used to. look, i have a lot of respect for him. he cuts his own path. and so the fact that he hasn't let the president down is frankly quite remarkable to me so far. and maybe he won't let him down. maybe this whole olive branch and sending pompeo to north korea was very much directed at rand paul because this is the kind of thing that rand paul would like to see done, which is a deescalation of hostilities, america playing less of a pronounced role in the world. and pompeo arguably, someone who i agree with very much on foreign policy, has been much more of a hardliner. pompeo showed he has these skills, too, and he works for the president and not the other way around and hopefully this will be a signal to paul and something he can vote for. >> i thought rick could be the secretary of state. that's such a diplomatic answer. i do think there's a real problem. donald trump, he's real

what's your message to rand paul? >> look, director pompeo has spent hours upon hours with the president briefing him on the most sensitive topics and information that our country has. they have a great chemistry. they are on the same page. otherwise, the president wouldn't have put him in there after spending so much time with him, he has a great in-depth knowledge of where they are or how they agree and he wants to see director pompeo and rand paul should have faith in the president's decision as a supporter of his that he is making the right decision for our country. and he should certainly be supportive of what the president is trying to do. and continue to be a good ally and partner with the administration. steve: all right. let's talk a little bit. you were talking about mike pompeo and north korea. stories out today in the "wall street journal" talking about how the president is going to make -- not going to make the same mistake other administrations have made in the past. north korea is not going to get anyth

rand paul speaks his mind. rand paul stands his ground.t him or is rand paul just being nice because the president said give him another chance? >> i think he's succumbing to pressure here. rand paul was one of the key votes, remember, that killed president trump's attempt to revive obamacare repeal. he never backed down from that. it's hard to see him having gotten reelected in 2016 up for a number of years now back down on one of his signature issues. he doesn't like the fact that pompeo doesn't support the iraq war. he doesn't like that he likes waterboarding. is rand paul going to flip on something at this point in his career? >> that's right, rand paul believes to the core of his identity. it's much harder to get you when you've spent your lifetime with something getting away. >> in part, rand paul's brand is being the contrarian. there are certain issues in which he says, nope, i'm not moving on this one. he wants a red state democrat. rand paul wants the one or two votes against trump. some say mike pompeo shouldn't be doing this. h

what were rand paul's concerns? >> rand paul's were sort of on two fronts. i think the key thing here is he wanted to see a secretary of state that fit what candidate donald trump had said specifically about iraq and afghanistan and america's role in the world, that we shouldn't be fighting endless wars in iraq. that we shouldn't be fighting enless wars in afghanistan. that we shouldn't be involved in syria. things that the president as candidate trump talked about on the campaign trail and then has pivoted away from. he felt that pompeo was too much of a classic neocon. a classic hawk, someone who anned to fight wars all over the world and he wanted to see the president nominate someone who agreed with the president back in the day. >> yeah. >> now he says he has received assurances with purchaso that he will stay in line with what the president believes on that whatever that case may be as time changes here and that apparently is good enough for rand paul. just last week the president said rand paul never let him down. and was unlikely to start here. it ap

behind the scenes he reassured rand paul and he said in a series of tweets. after calling continuously for weeks of director pompeo to support president trump's belief that the iraq war as a mistake and it is time to leave afghanistan, today i received confirmation from director pompeo agrees with president trump and he believes iraq was a mistake and that regime change has destabilized the region and we must end our involvement with afghanistan. having received assurances from president trump and director pompeo that he agrees with the president on the important issues, i've decided to support his nomination to be the next secretary of state. this did catch members of the committee by surprise. they were expecting this negative vote heading into this vote that is happening right now. but it may not have caught president trump by surprise. president trump last week in mar-a-largo saying that he was optimistic that rand paul would flip and support the nominee. >> i will say this about rand paul, he's never let me down. rand paul is a very special guy as far as

we have had rand paul, against, democrats, with the exception of chris coons of delaware. he told me he is leaning against .ight mike pompeo -- against mike pompeo. >> what are rand paul's principal objections so far? rachel: he objected to mike pompeo's military interventionist policies, his advocacy for the war in iraq and potential military intervention in iran over its nuclear program during the obama administration. >> as you mentioned a moment ago, chris coons leaning against voting for the mike pompeo nomination. give us a sense why senate democrats are proposing his nomination. rachel: democrats have cited, in addition to the director's previous opposition to the iran deal, his past statements equivocating the russian government interference in the 2016 elections, some objectionable comments he made about muslims and their potential complicity in terrorist attacks if they were not condemning them, as well as his stances against gay civil rights. and also the sense that he, a number of senators don't think he will tell president trump things he does not want to hear

we have had at least one republican, rand paul, come out against. all democrats with the exception of chris coons. he told me on thursday he is leaning towards voting against mike pompeo, who he voted against for cia director. >> what are rand paul's principal objections so far? said he objected to mike pompeo's military interventionist policies, including his advocacy's for the war in a rock and his advocacy for potential military intervention on iran over its nuclear weapons program during the obama administration. host: you tweeted this about chris coons, saying i am leaning voting against the nomination, final decision yet to be made, foreign relations voting monday evening. give us a sense of why senator cowan and other democrats are opposing his nomination? guest: democrats have cited, in addition to his previous objection to the a ron deal, his statements equivocating on russian government interference, objectionable comments he made about muslims and their potential complicity in terrorist attacks if they were not condemning them, as well as

republican senator rand paul opposes the nomination, but the president believes the kentucky senator ll come around. senator paul not so sure. >> i will say this about rand paul. he has never let me down. rand paul is a very special guy. as far as i'm concerned. he has never let me down. i don't think he will let us down again. let's see what happens. >> because the president asked me to and i have a great deal of respect, i will meet with pompeo before the vote. >> does that mean you are open ? >> i'm open. >> the president has referred to rand paul as a very special guy. >>> a long-time lawyer for president trump gave a warning to the president about the fixer michael cohen. jay goldberg who negotiated divorces for president trump said he received a call from the president last friday. he predicted cohen would cooperate with prosecutors. goldberg says his warning was met with silence. goldberg advised the president not to speak to the special counsel. >>> karen mcdougal free to sell her story to the world. she claimed she had a ten-month affair with the president and tricked to sign

you mentioned rand paul. i am a huge fan of rand paul. he talks about criminal justice reform. and talked on tv mainlyhe war on drugs, affecting black and brown people. he talks about majority black people have ended up in prison versus white people don't go to prison for drug charges. he is very genuine about the subject even when obama was in office. am always telling my friends and associates, hey, rand paul is the real deal. i actually believe in the libertarian party -- if it was stronger he would break away from the republican party and the all out -- he would become all out libertarian. i was curious what you think? guest: great question. i think the african american community has to be a better job of making both parties, republicans and democrats, fight for our boat. we do not -- fight for our vote. 90% of african-american women are voting for democrats. i may understand why. an increasing population are single, heads of households and unmarried which is not necessarily by choice. it is by chance. relative to republicans, you know that party has a glorious with the afr

you mentioned rand paul. i'm a huge fan of rand paul.constantly talks about criminal justice reform. and he has gone on tv and said -- and talked about how the war on drugs has mainly affected black and brown people. >> absolutely. >> caller: he always talks about how the majority of black people have ended up in prison versus white people don't really go to prison for drug charges. he's very genuine about this subject, even when obama was in office, and i'm always telling my friends and associates, hey, rand paul is the real deal and i actually believe if the libertarian party was stronger, he would break away from the republican party and just be all-out. he would just become an all-out libertarian candidate. i was just curious what do you think about that? >> well, that's a great question, but here's how i would answer that. i think the african-american community has to do a better job at making both parties, both the republicans and the democrats, fight for our vote. we don't. we know that african-american women have pretty much beco

it's not like lindsey graham will change rand paul's mind. if he gets a bad recommendation out of the committee but goes to the floor you will see a lot of pressure placed on democrats, too, particularly folks like mike warner. they worked together as pompeo has been cia director. a lot of red state democrats will be leaned on to put what republicans say the country over politics especially with pompeo out essentially doing the job already. i suspect we will hear that language about pompeo's qualifications and casting this as apolitical vote. the cia nominee will be another difficult fight in a couple of weeks. >> hold that thought. i will have you stand by. i want to bring in former adviser to rubio and director of domestic policy studies. let me start with pompeo. number one, is rand paul going to come around on this? or no way no how? >> i think he will eventually come around. the wildcard here is that rand paul. i think there is such tremendous pressure on him. what i was going to say is that rand paul is also unpredictable. recall that h

the president seems confident he will get an ally in rand paul. listen. >> i will say this about rand paul. he's never let me down. rand paul is a very special guy. as far as i'm concerned. he has never let me down. i don't think he will let us down again. let's see what happens. >> because the president asked me to and because i have a great deal of respect for the respect, i will meet with director pompeo some time before the vote. >> does that mean you are open to maybe the vote? >> i'm open to meeting right now. we will see what comes of the meeting. >> what do you make of that, david? >> -- >> speechless. >> i find it farcical, if you will. rand paul opposes president trump when it suits him from policy perspective. he has voted against the president from time to time. from the president's perspective, he does let him down. rand paul out of respect will meet with the director of the cia to consider him for secretary of state. there are democrats that will vote against mike pompeo for secretary of state that still granted him the courtesy of t

juan you're trying to say rand paul. rand paul was like, yes. >> greg: he heard juan. i wonder. it's, this is all about team sport politics which i think is going to go away soon because we are seeing these cracks in this prison of two ideas. i wonder, it's like if this were a democrat and we were on the verge of making the world safer, right, north korea. this is a big deal. it's a really big deal. would you do this to the democrats or would you want to take part in the win and sam want to support this guy because we're going to change the world rather than say no, i am going to burn the place down because he is a republican. >> juan: i don't think that's the issue. i think the issue is do you normalize trump's behavior in every case and say if you disagree with him, then people will say you're not a patriot. the state department has been totally dismantled. people are at low morale and hurt. we don't have diplomats in place. then you say well, but we are going to get mike pompeo. he will bring something back. come on. it's like blackmail. >> jesse: i think what you are trying

aside from rand paul, publicans are very supportive. very --er has been extremely supportive of mike pompeo, urging his colleagues to support the nomination. it is helpful for a nominee who comes from congress, so pompeo having served in the house has those relationships already, has that level of understanding and trust with his colleagues and we are likely to see more democrats come out this week in support. is likely to come out in support of pompeo. it will be a narrow vote and a close partyline vote, but he only needs a simple majority. just one of the topics we will engage, in this hour. if you want to ask questions about topics we will bring up, (202)-748-8001 republicans, (202)-748-8000 for democrats and for independents, (202)-748-8002 . while this is going on, congress will hear from the french president. the message, iran. what is expected? erica: this is going to be interesting because it is the first -- there is been a lot of opposition from republicans on capitol hill to the iran deal. the french president was very support

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. >> paul: rand sits o paul sits e senate foreign relations committee.he votes no and all the democrats line up, then you could get no recommendation out of the senate foreign relations committee. that would be ex straightforwarx straightforward fair youly. where is rand paul coming from? >> rand paul is coming from inside his own head, paul, where he resides all of the time. he has no relationship to the republican party, the president. the president -- president trump purports to have a friendship with rand paul and he has reached out to him on this issue and said he would like to meet with him and talk about whether he can't see his way to supporting mike pompeo. rand paul opposes any kind of intervention overseas and he has been extraordinarily obstructive. but if he held on in this one and the democrats held back, then rand paul would have to take primary responsibility for a secretary of state not being approved for the first time in over 100 years. >> paul: they can still find a way to get him to the floor, although as dan suggests, this would be

however rand paul changed his vote from no to a yes at the very last minute after speaking with the presidentday as well as meeting with pompeo himself. paul says he received several assurances that pompeo now thinks that i iraq war, quote, was a mistake, that regime change has destabilized the middle east and that quote, we must end our involvement with afghanistan. >> there was also a last second obstacle. republican senator isaacsons could not attend the vote. he was delivering a eulogy of a close friend. even though he voted by proxy, senators had to be physically present for it to advance to the floor and democrat chris coons changed his no vote to present. >> having heard earlier this afternoon a request from my dear friend senator isaacson who i esteem greatly i am recorded as voting against mike pompeo for secretary of state but i will vote present to have him move forward now instead of at 11:00 at night. >> ma jjority leader is expecte to call a vote on the nomination this week. three democrats have come out in support. nice move there on chris coons' part. he's going to be on the s

that meeting happening for about 45 minutes in rand paul's office. shortly after the president nominated the cia director to be secretary of state, paul said that he would vote against him. kentucky republican argues pompeo advocates for an enduring military presence overseases. he says it would be a big deal to change his mind on pompeo. now, paul's office, or paul himself have said if this meeting changed his mind, if he plans on at least considering voting for pompeo or just forget about it. now, paul's republican colleagues say he is out of the republican main stream on this issue. >> as to rand paul, you say you support the president. here's a really good chance to do something about it. do you want to avoid a war with north korea, somebody needs to do something different. i can't believe that mr. pompeo is not qualified by any definition. now, if you're looking for a libertarian, you're not gonna get one. >> reporter: there is also an undecided republican on pompeo's nomination, that's arizona senator jeff flake. republicans have a narrow senat

that's why the president put pressure on rand paul. he said rand paul hasn't let me done. also in the event you had spare time, maybe a parasol with a bit of shade available and you were thinking of putting it on nikki haley, don't do it. i say look at available evidence. decide against it. no shade. not for nikki haley. don't do it. >> vo: they're getting more out of life by starting with miracle-gro potting mix and plant food. together, guaranteed to produce three times the harvest. more to enjoy... to share. three times the harvest. one powerful guarantee. miracle-gro. ♪ most people come to la with big dreams. ♪ we came with big appetites. with expedia, you can book a flight, hotel, car, and activity... ...all in one place. ♪ everything you need to go. expedia >> shepard: so mike pompeo not yet confirmed for secretary of state. they haven't gone through that process yet. but you heard the president just a moment ago. he's sent him on one of the most high stakes diplomatic missions imaginable. team fox coverage continues with rich edson live now. mike pompeo on the hill

i will say this about rand paul.let me down. >> i don't think that he shares the same vision as the president on foreign policy. so what have to be somehow some defining of his position that looks a lot more like president trump's position and would have to be very public. not just private. the thing as it would be a big deal for me to change my position on him. >> should pompeo be worried about this? virginia gop chairman, good morning. >> good morning to you. cheryl: this is pretty astonishing to see the amount of opposition in his own party of pompeo's nomination. is he in trouble? >> i don't think so. he was confirmed for cia director by a vote of 66 to 32. a significant in today's world. rand paul represent the standardbearer of the the liberty wing of the republican party. i think he is very concerned about anything interventionist and i think he sort of rigorous pompeo is a bit of a war monger which a little unfair. this visited to north korea is significant. senator paul is one of those guys that thinks clear

rand paul will not vote for him.peo has been trying to show his diplomacy chops by going to the hill and talking to senators on both sides trying to convince them that he is the guy for the job. we will see if his diplomacy works on the senate side as he hopes it would on the international stage. >> meanwhile, in washington, d.c., you will see people with heads buried in the book. trying to get the comey book this morning. >>> -- this morning. people are starting to read this. give me a sense of what will washington is making of this? we were talking about how interesting the rnc has a strategy to discredit him and personally attack his character. james comey's character. >> we heard reports of the gop strategy before the book hit. we knew it would cause a tidal wave as we said last night. it hit washington like an atomic bomb. comey is coming out swinging. he is not holding back. he is making, you know, claims of the president's character, about things the president said to him in private conversations. so this is n

pompeo's nomination passed out of committee today with a little bit of rand paul infused drama. nator paul had insisted that mike pompeo, he's be a no, no, no, no way vote, he'd do anything to stop it. naturally, rand paul ended up voting yes for mike pompeo today. that pretty much ends the drama over pompeo's nomination. but the confirmation of the president's pick to replace mike pompeo as head of the cia, that is another one that may not go smoothly. gina is the nominee. her reported involvement in the cia's torture program during the george w. bush administration is turning into a really serious issue for her nomination, and it's not democrats who are the only ones raising concerns here. today, senators received this letter signed by over 100 retired military leaders, senior ones, 109 retired generals and admirals, saying that they too are concerned about her nomination. that is the sort of thing that tends to get senators' attention. joining us now is one of the retired generals who signed this letter sent to the senate today. general irvine, thank you so much for giving us

this about rand paul. he has never let me down. rand paul is a special guy, he never let me down. and i don't think he will let me down again. >> the president has to count on some democrats from red states, joe mansion, heidi heitkamp, so much in terms of america's standing in the world, it is simply dangerous to be blocking his secretary of state nominee when there is so much including diplomacy. >> one of the arguments they are making. the presence's critics say the white house is hyping to bolster his image before the senate foreign relations committee as to those. let's talk about it with a member of that committee. great to see you tonight. you heard about this tip between the president and rand paul, play both sides for folks. >> i will say this about rand paul. he has never let me down. >> that stay forever in the middle east, afghanistan. it would have to be somehow some defining of his position that looks more like donald trump's position and very public, not just private because the thing is it

i don't think you know as to how to do it now it took some persuading since rand paul is known for his staunch anti interventionist policies what's going to please with trump's choice someone who advocates for us staying forever in afghanistan another iraq war bombing syria without permission so these are the advice you will get out of and i guess that's my biggest concern with your nomination is that i don't think it reflects the millions of people who voted for president drum who actually voted for him because they thought he'd be different that it wouldn't be the traditional bipartisan consensus to bomb everywhere and be everywhere around the world and he wasn't the only one with reservations at that april twelfth hearing where we assemble a war cabinet john bolton and mike pompei of that are going to result in devastating consequences bypassing congress is authority in regards to use of military force and perhaps engaging in another poorly thought through mistake like our war on iraq but if you judge on pale soley on his answers at that hearing we might think of a bit tame. it's ti

his nomination after a narrow vote following a last minute reversal by republican senator rand paul he had been a staunch critic of the outgoing cia head over his hawkish stance if not for polls last minute switch mike could have been on track for a historic distinction the first secretary of state nominee not to pass the committee stage with more on all this. might prompt hailed washington's top diplomat well that's a soon as he is confirmed by the u.s. senate but after the foreign relations committee confirmed his nomination he's one step closer to having the state department who poured into the floor in a positive manner want to thank you remember this committee for the diligence they've displayed i think we've done the right thing now it was tense up until the very end but one republican senator kept up the suspense rand paul would have paved the way for what would have been historic now by the committee but a phone call from donald trump seems to feel good deal i will say this about rand paul he's never let the real blow is a very special night as far as i'm concerned he's never l

>> that's a good question for jeff flake and rand paul.tside -- >> martha: the fact of the matter when you look back -- i'll let you finish, but it's been a very bipartisan thing, and there will be people on both sides of the fence about now. the fact that there's been this vote of confidence, that the president is the president and he should have the person he wants in his position and the person doesn't have three heads or something ridiculously egregious, then it's courtesy to let him go through with those moves. there is no courtesy left, it would appear. >> he got his cabinet last year and i think that was an overwhelming differential to the president. there have been less than a dozen in our nations history of cabinet secretaries who have been voted down. i'm not sure mike pompeo is going to be the next one. we already had a democrat today who said they would vote for him, so the only reason it wouldn't happen is if rand paul took really extreme procedural steps. i think after 15 months again, people are weary. mike pompeo had a hear

rand paul said, i'm knew things that nobody else knew. . rand paul said, i'm going to change my vote and devoted and everyone was surprised. he actually got an 11—9 vote. so it was actually 11—9. i believe there was one... what would you call that, john? present. that was a terrific thing. but they failed to stop him. so now, they say, who is next? and this person, admiraljackson, doctorjackson, a wonderful man, i said to him, what do you need it for? as far as experience is concerned, the vetera ns experience is concerned, the veterans administration, which is approximately 13 million people, it's so big, you could run the biggest hospital system in the world and it's a small—time kanpur in —— compared to the veterans administration. what he is is a leader and a good man. but i said to him, you know what, you are too fine a person. his son has a top student, he isa a person. his son has a top student, he is a high—quality person. i said, what do you need it for? so it is totally his decision. he will be making a decision. but they failed

you've heard about the tip between the president and senator rand paul. we want to play both sides and get your reaction. >> i will say this about rand paul. he's never let me down. >> i think he has been more on the "let's stay forever" in the middle east, afghanistan. it would have to be some defining of his position that looks more like president trump's position and would have to be very public, not just private. the thing is, it would be a big deal for me to change my position on him. >> shannon: as of now, he's not going to vote yes. even if the cia director does not get voted out of committee, he can still go to the floor but without the recommendation of the committee. does he go there bloodied and bruised? >> senate historian has had going back to 1925, this is never happened for a secretary of state nominee. it's happened with other nominations but you don't want this to happen, that's clear. there really is no good reason about against mike pompeo. the panel voted previously, members who voted for him on the floor, some perhaps in the authorizi

rand paul switched his vote, decided to give mooith miike po favorable vote out of committee. garrett hake you're following that one too and i think rand paul was out this morning talking about why he made the decision that he made to essentially help mike pompeo avoid what would have been an embarrassment. it wouldn't have changed the end game. he's on his way to become the next secretary of state, that wouldn't are changed, it's whether or not he would have done it in a way that the white house wanted or not? >> reporter: that's right. if rand paul had withheld his vote from pom payio, he would be on his way to being a historical footnote as sbhon got an unfavorable vote out of committee but would have passed on the floor about the we knew he had just enough democratic support to get over the hump once his vote came to the floor. yesterday, just minutes before the vote was scheduled to be take rern rand paul came out way series of tweets essentially walking back his opposition saying that he had spoken to the president, had he spoken to pompeo and that he was now comfortable

. >> what about rand paul?heard the president, he hasn't disappointed me in the past, to that effect yesterday, met with mike pompeo today. what is he thinking? >> you know, rand paul is different. for rand paul, this is not an electoral question. it's not a party question because unlike heidi hyeitkamp, this involves in terms of his principal principle, he's outspoken big picture on interventionism, concern about the things that pompeo has known about and worked through at the cia in terms of intelligence and rand paul's estimation overreach in terms of civil liberties. so for him it is a purely principled issue and question. and so it will be interesting to see, brooke, if the president is able to kind of twist his arm to make the argument that, look, i, the president, need in this position somebody who i can trust and who the world knows i have a good relationship with so he can represent me. so far it doesn't seem like that's an argument that holds sway over rand paul. can i quickly go back to the heidi hei

except i spoke to rand paul and rand paul has really never let me down here rand paul is a good man and i knew things that nobody else knew and rand paul said i'm going to change my vote any voted never but it was surprised he actually got an eleven to nine vote because as you know johnnie isaacson's vote counts if it isn't the deciding vote so it was actually a leaven to nine with i believe an extra there was one vote what what would you call that as well as a present i'm not present present it's called present ok so was eleven to nine and that was that was a terrific thing but they failed to stop him so now they say who's next who's next and this person admiral jackson dr jackson is a wonderful man i said to him what do you need for. and as far as experience is concerned the veterans administration which is approximately thirteen million people is so big you could run the biggest hospital system in the world and it's small time compared to the veterans administration so nobody has seen watching your news conference there with the president trumka and emanuel mccall the french presiden

that combined with rand paul already in opposition. pompeo may not have support to win recommendation from the committee. listen to the questions posed him. >> did he ask you to do anything as it relates to the investigation? >> senator, i don't recall what he asked me that day. precisely. i have to tell you i am with the president a lot. he has never asked me to do anything that i consider remotely improper. >> assuming he is confirmed, pompeo was asked if he would resign as secretary of state if president trump tries to fire robert mueller or deputy attorney general rod rosenstein. >> senator, i have not given that question any thought. my instincts tell me no. my service is more important than domestic turmoil. >> pompeo was asked how he would handle the nuclear threat posed by iran. he says he would pursue diplomacy first. >> no doubt the administration policy and my view is the solution from getting a nuclear weapons and finding us in the same place in north korea in iran is through diplomacy. >> if pompeo fails to get a favorable

rand paul is a very special guy, as far as i'm concerned. he has never let me down.'t think he will lead us down again. so, let's see what happens. because bottom line, if he does not come along, the president is going to have to count on other democrats. some of those folks to vote for pompeo. there is so much on the line. you heard the president just say it in the news president with the japanese prime minister, these are very sensitive diplomatic talks right now. he wants to secretary of state and place, martha. >> martha: certainly. so joining me now, fox news senior strategic analyst and chairman for the study of war. in general, good to see you tonight. i know that you spoke to the cia director before the secret mission that he went on to north korea. we have heard rand paul saying he doesn't think that mike pompeo is lined up with the president on foreign policy. do you agree? >> well, first of all, i did speak to him. he certainly did not disclose that information, but we spoke at length on north korea. and i believe a couple of thing things. the central inte

his nomination passed out of the committee today with a bit of rand paul-infused drama. he i insisted he had been a no way vote to the bitter end, no way no how, naturally rand paul ended up voting yes, which pretty much ends the drama over pompeo's nomination. but the confirmation of the president's pick to replace mike pompeo as head of the karim a, that is another one that may not go smoothly. gina haspel is the nominee. but her reported 1r06789 in the cia's torture program is turning into a serious issue, and just not democrats raising concerns. today senators received this letter signed by over 100 retired military leaders, senior ones, 109 retired generals and admirals say they too are concerned about the nomination. that's the sort of thing that tends ton senators' attention. joining us is brigadier general david irvine, a pleasure to have you here, sir. >> thank for you having me. >> why did you sign this letter and what are your concerns? we have a number of concerns. probably the biggest is torture, and let's be clear, that the cia has denied for years it ever

my next guest, senator rand paul. i want to focus on the markets.hey were up on the belief here that we're not going to do anything rash or immediate there. the prospect for, you know, an immediate interference was not necessarily in the offing. could be off and often are. senator rand paul. are the markets right? no immediate encouragement? >> the markets are reacting to a lot of things. threat of a trade war is one thing, massive chronic deficit spending. maybe the threats of war. but there's still a great deal of potential for hostilities. that's what some call it when they don't want to use the word "war." but something will happen in syria. i've been very clear that the constitution doesn't allow the president to do this without first asking congress. >> i notice following the hearing closely with director pompeo, that you were very tough on him and not so much interested in his conversation whether he might or might have had with bob mueller but more to the point on the syrian issue and whether he or we should be going in there. could you expl

>> so i think pompeo's biggest hurdle was rand paul.awk, where isolationist was concerned about pompeo being a hawk and he was worried that pompeo might want to keep troops in afghanistan which trump has pledged to withdraw from afghanistan. but after he tried to convince him that he and pompeo were on the same page, paul eventually flipped his vote and got on board. so i think that was pompeo's biggest hurdle. as for as gina has kell, not looking so good for her. over a hundred military leaders saying that they feel her ties to the former u.s. torture program is not fitting for someone who's going to be in the top cia job. >> so the white house once again so that the president has no intention of firing bob mueller. we've been talking about this for weeks although we did see that tweet over the weekend suggesting the special counsel's investigation is illegal. so what do you make of this mixed messaging? are they trying to keep the door open saying that we're not interested in doing it now? we've been open with the russia investigation

then they also have kentucky senator rand paul. they feel they've got enough. they have to get him there. there are some procedural issues right now doing so, all contained within the committee and the meeting happening behind us. >> bret: folks walking in. we will let you do some work and get an update later on. the search for the suspect in the shooting at a tennessee waffle house is over. police arrested travis reinking not far from his apartment a few hours ago. correspondent jonathan serrie joins us live from antioch with more. good evening. >> good evening. until this afternoon, police say they had received no credible sightings of the suspect. but they continue to focus their search area here in antioch, tennessee, very close to the scene of the crime, the waffle house you see behind me. today their efforts paid off. video from an eyewitness smartphone shows the suspect travis reinking in police custody minutes after his arrest in a wooded area near this apartment complex not far from the wall floss or a mass shooting claimed the lives of four people ear

except i spoke to rand paul and rand paul has really never let me down. rand paul is a good man.things that nobody else knew and rand paul said i'm going to change my vote. he voted and everybody was surprised. >> bill: that from changing his mind yesterday. reflections on senator rand paul supporting the cause and the pick for the secretary of state mike pompeo, the nomination moving to the full senate likely for a vote tomorrow. the kentucky senator is with me in studio. nice to see you back in new york. timely. what is going on between you two? >> i think the president is right. i'm a good guy and appreciate him acknowledging that. i think president and i do connect on a certain level. when i talk to him about foreign policy and my desire to end some of these wars and that we've been there too long he is right on there. he is go for it. that's what he is for as well. we share a vision on that. now all the particulars may not be exactly the same. i wouldn't send another soldier to afghanistan. there is no military solution there. pompeo admits that. president admits that. but t

and you mentioned rand paul i'm a huge fan of rand paul. he has gone on tv and said it's all about how the war has mainly affected black and brown people. he always talks about majority of black people had ended up in prison versus white people don't really go to prison. he is very genuine about the subject even when obama was in office and i'm already telling my friends and associates. rand paul is the real deal. i actually believe if they were stronger. he would break away from the republican party and then just be all out. he would just become all out. i was just curious what you think about that. here is how i would answer that. i think the african-american community has to do a better job of making both parties fight for our vote. we know the african-american women had pretty much been a model. they are voting for the democratic party. the issues that the democrat party has well fit more in line. they are single heads of households and unmarried which is not something that is necessarily by choice it's by chance. that is my first quest

i will say this about rand paul.e has never let me down. rand paul is a very special guy as far as i am concerned. >> reporter: we will see if the senate foreign relations committee vote the critics out but regardless of that he could be sent for an up or down vote in coming days. we shall find out. jillian: have a good one. the woman killed when a plane's engine exploded died from blunt force trauma. medical examiner's say she was struck in the head, and store so when she was partially sucked out of a shattered window on the southwest plane. the mother of two was wearing a seatbelt. investigators are trying to determine how the window broke. preliminary terry report shows metal fatigue on the engine and the missing fan blade, the faa will issue a directive requiring inspections of those planes. the day after the nightmare plane explosion a delta jet is grounded for engine fire. you can see the thick black smoke forcing the plane heading from atlanta to london to turn back. the pilot trying to explain the situation.

senate, you control the foreign relations committee and it's rand paul that's voting against mike pompeompeo is a weak nominee. heather: what i want to ask you is in reference to democrats, please pull it up on the screen, democrats who said yes on cia director as pompeo but no for -- >> i think you should asked rand paul who has worked, a united states senator, elected by republicans who ran as a republican nominee for the presidency of the united states who is voting against who has said clearly he's voting against mike pompeo, that's the question we should ask ourselves. heather: beverly, what about you -- >> you're mentioning one republican who by the way rand paul is always going to have more of an isolationist perspective on foreign policy, so this is right in line with what raund paul would do, where the hypocrisy is where the same democrats who voted for him as cia, now all of a sudden are saying he's not qualified for the position but yet at the same time pch. >> he's dangerous. >> more about political posturing, hoping for their own liberal base -- >> he's dangerous. heather: t

rand paul gave us a non-answer. >> even mike pompeo admits there is no military mission. if there is no military solution there, who wants to send more gis? unfortunately pompeo is for sending more gis to afghanistan. >> sandra: what do you say to senator paul? >> well, the second that president trump nominated mike pompeo rand paul has been very consistent came out against him. you have this unified democrat opposition trying to keep mike pompeo or anybody that the president nominates from getting on the job. the president needs his team. he deserves to have his team. we need to get mike pompeo on the job. >> sandra: are more saention on russia coming? >> we'll wait and see what the president does and what we hear from the united nations. i think we need to do whatever we can to limit russian's activity. putin is cunning, aggressive, opportunistic and take advantage of any opportunity and i think the president has the right instincts in terms of going after putin. >> sandra: what's being considered? >> there are a

senator rand paul from the hill. thank you very much. we will be right back. pain. but he has work to do. so he took aleve. if he'd taken tylenol, he'd be stopping for more pills right now. only aleve has the strength to stop tough pain for up to 12 hours with just one pill. aleve. all day strong. alright, i brought in high protein to help get us moving. ...and help you feel more strength and energy in just two weeks! i'll take that. -yeeeeeah! ensure high protein. with 16 grams of protein and 4 grams of sugar. ensure. always be you. >> harris: thanks lot for watching. i'm harris. here's dana. >> dana: secretary of defense james mattis is on his way to the white house to meet with president trump to discuss the latest target options in syria after another apparent chemical weapons attack by the assad regime targeting his own people. hello, everyone. i'm dana perino and this is "the daily briefing." i'll also talk to speaker paul ryan in his first interview after announcing this morning that he will not seek re-election in november. but first national security

he's not the guy who bombs stuff -- >> rand paul said that. >> i know.ndous dumbing down of this process. this is somebody who we have now trusted to go down to north korea and -- >> we didn't trust him. donald trump secretly sent him out -- >> well you send a skilled diplomat to do something that -- >> and i want to be clear -- donald trump secretly sent him and then pompeo had a conversation with senator mendez and did not disclose that he went to north korea. this does not sound like someone that really wanted to be the top diplomat and have a bipartisan support to go out there and do -- >> not only with he be a bipartisan selection but a unanimous one. i think we're in an era where democrats find they have the biggest stage and that is why we're talking about this. >> the democrats will hang together against him -- >> i agree. >> you think some red states democrats will vote for him. >> as you say, could you make the case for him and he has a very admiral background at west point -- his class at west point and a smart guy and so i thif -- it seems to

he's never let me down. >> i understand and rand paul doesn't want to let the president down but rand paul might say he answers to the american people. i want to bring in eli stockles, msnbc political analyst and josh earnest and andy card back with me. andy, pompeo can bring the nomination to the senate floor, if he's not favored by the committee. >> i happen to believe the president rvedeserves the benef of the doubt. i favor pompeo being confirmed as secretary of state. that's who the president wants -- >> with all due respect, you've got scott pruitt, you've got ben carson, you had mike flynn, you got rex tillerson. it's not like the president has a great track record at this point. >> that's right, and hold the president accountable. >> will be don't give him the benefit of the doubt. >> well, this is a significant -- secretary of state is a big deal. he needs a secretary of state. right now, he needs one. the world is like a mess. >> okay, then -- >> he needs a secretary of state. >> then are democrats backed into a corner here with regard to mike pompeo? he did just have this m

rand paul is hard no? perhaps.something to think about. there is belief heidi heitkamp win noting other democrat to flip. others are feeling pressure from jon tester to joe donnelly to -- steve: claire mccaskill. brian: as well as manchin over in west virginia, that they will flip because they can't honestly say they see eye-to-eye with the president on anything if you won't vote for eminently qualified secretary of state. ainsley: that hurts the country. it hurts national security. it hurts our country. we have everything going on in north korea and syria. we need a secretary of state. i know they might not like the president. you can't penalize the country. brian: we have to redo our whole system, so many ambassador positions can't get votes in the senate. we don't have ambassador to germany. germany is coming friday. we have a guy on hold, ric grenell for seven months now. it's a joke. steve: because you've to have 30 hours of debate. mitch won't do that. don't know why. look at mike pompeo, over easter he went