. >> guy ratliff who has been practicing asatru for several years here says there is pun group is notnd out that someone was a child molester, he would be banned from the community. he cannot participate. it's a bylaw. >> ratliff who uses another accepted pronunciation of the group's name also defended the fact that some members have swastikas tattoos on their bodies. >> the swastika was around long before adolf hitler came along. okay. i don't have nothing against uncle adolf, but he took something from my religion which was a sun wheel and made it part of his party. it goes back to ancient civilizations. they had a swastika in persia way before national socialism came along. >> while rat cliff defended asatru, his comments disturbed murray who let him know how much when he returned to his cell. >> you made us look like a bunch of [ bleep ], [ bleep ]. >> i tried to talk about this with you. i swore i did. sorry, marcus, i [ bleep ] up, man. i'm sorry. i apologize, damn it. try not to get mad at me. >> it's hard not to, man. you just sank my boat. >> later, we told murray we recorded