some married as often as ronald reagan. during many comparisons between ronald reagan. none of them are quite the site down because he was on that. as indeed was margaret thatcher. they would have been strangely bill clinton's change in the democratic party and the vcs tackle the important things like welfare reform had it not been his time in office is it knowledge margaret thatcher had said it had a lot of truth in it and put into effect changes and didn't roll back the changes made to britain. when they met in 1975, they were both between jobs. he had done for two terms heading toward a favorite conservative to become the presidential nominee, but not quite. by rick thatcher had just become the new leader of the opposition, which the conservative party is an old, stuffy, misogynistic old boys network of general major roads were rather sharp to find a strain on who i don't think any of them entertained other. it is a completely due thing. they discovered in a leader of the opposition's office that they had a meeting set between 20 and 30 minutes and they found they we

is reagan today are the people in love with reagan still today are they totally misguided?i think ronald reagan has become all things to all people in a sense. the conservatives who hold up ronald reagan as an icon ignored the fact that he raised taxes he was for background checks for gun owners and reached out to america's archenemy let's not ignore that fact because they want an icon for their republican party. but there is that reagan there you would not call it a liberal recognized you would call it a referendum on the extremism of the republican party. ronald reagan would not get through a republican primary because in comparison he's moderate. in a sense the reagan legacy when you look at it is a negative commentary on the extremism of today's republican party which quite certainly is not the republican party of ronald reagan. >> michael: that's fascinating stuff, david sirota, thank you for being on the show, "the young turks," and also being on that special that starts airing on april 14th. when we come back we go to the president who is in the oval office now. bara

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and ronald reagan, president reagan did that. he approached the argentinians and the letters and correspondence have been released. so i think there was a mutuality of support that was reciprocated repeatedly between the two of them and i think that's right. >> thanks to martin bashir and scott cohn, joining me on the phone now, james baker and former reagan white house chief of staff. mr. baker, thanks very much for being with us, your memories and your connection to margaret thatcher was so immediate and so personal. tell me about the reagan relationship with thatcher. >> well it was the relationship between margaret and ronald reagan was seamless. andrea, there was never as far as i can remember, any differences between them. save perhaps one, when, when president reagan decided to invade grenada and we called margaret to notify her. we called her the night before the operation went down. and grenada was a commonwealth country. and margaret told president reagan. she said you know, ronnie, this is notification, it's not consul

reagan. did they have a common view of communism. the soviet union needs to change. let's be strong. let's demonstrate our strength to some action such as deployment of the missiles in 1984. i was there. i watched it happen. it brought all of those out. the game is up. powerful way she made an impact on the world's situation. she had people who did not like the way she went about it. all the protesters were deploying those missiles. >> we have to leave it there. thank you very much for joining us today. world leaders have been paying tribute to lady thatcher including president obama who said she stood shoulder to shoulder with president reagan during the cold war. atn simpson takes this look margaret thatcher's is standing on the world stage. >> foreign policy provided some of her greatest successes. in the shape of europe, it helps bring about her downfall. when she first came to power, the lack of any real foreign experience was her greatest weakness. disastrous miscalculations of assuming

president ronald reagan.y were often called political soul mates. >> prime minister, the entire world salutes you and your gallant people and gallant nation. >> reporter: thatcher once referred to reagan as the second most important man in her life. she had to persuade the united states to take her side in the faulklands war but she went to war to retake those islands from argentina and that solidified her as a global leader. it also helped thatcher influence the end of the cold war, when she convinced reagan that he could trust the new soviet leader, gorbachev. in her first term, thatcher faced problems at home. three million people out of work, riots in inner cities, labor unrest, the long and bitter miners' strike. she defeated the miners' union. but she was blessed with a weak opposition and in the mid 1980s, a briskly growing economy. the end came in 1990, when the economy was doing badly. she was forced to resign after she introduced the unpopular local tax known as the poll tax. >> i'm very happy that

but they were a team, reagan and reagan. she would then coach him when he was in high school plays and college performances. he was -- he was keen on him. and her voice coaching i think was probably very, very instrumental in ronald reagan's distinctive, magical whispering kind of intensity that you will remember that sound of ronald reagan, as we will remember jack kennedy's boston cadencies and roosevelt's arith contract i can tones long into history. >> when did jack reagan, his father, die, and also his mother? >> his father died not too long after they were in hollywood. his father had been -- >> early 1940's? >> maybe 1943, something like that. his mother lived quite a longer time. she then died before he got into politics at all. and she died of alzheimer's. so we see another mother to son. jack reagan, ronald reagan used to say, was a great story-teller. and ronald reagan says he got that trait from his father. i think he got from his mother, in addition to the love of acting, he got from her a sense of optimism and

ronald reagan would not approve of this. what would reagan do? he would work for comprehensive immigration reform to give people a chance of living a life of dignity outside the shadows where they can make a full contribution to the success of our nation. and then finally, if we're to get this right, we need to have civics education elevated not just for immigrants, although certainly that is important -- [applause] but for all of us. all of us. we cannot have an immigration policy where multiculturalism is the core kind of ground, foundation of our nation. we have to have shared values, and the only way to have shared values is for people to embrace them, to understand them, to appreciate them, and that should not just be for immigrants, it should be for all of us. it is maddening to see these polls that show -- [applause] that people don't know their three branches of government or that the constitution, you know, they confuse the constitution with the declaration of independence or all the things that we see. it's because our schools have not

reviving capitalism and freedom was a reagan similar thatcher mission. she battled british unions when strikes paralyzed the uk. >> what we've got is an attempt to substitute the law of the mob for the rule of law. >> reporter: when reagan came to power in 1981, he broke the u.s. air traffic controllers union when they struck. russians called thatcher the iron lady and the nickname stuck. >> we always watched that

thatcher and president reagan. they complemented each other as far as world leaders better than anyone since roosevelt and churchill. but my specific question is after two of the major overseas involving president reagan, the iran-contra issue and then the funding of the mujahedin in afghanistan when the soviet union was there, which at that time included osama bin laden. after president reagan was out of office, i was wondering did lady thatcher ever have any public comments about those two particular blemishes on her good friend's president reagan's record? i will get off the line for your answer. guest: i will have to take a pass on a detail. i do not want to make up an answer. i do not know if she made any comments or in generally comments. in general, she cannot not have been more unwavering in her support of president reagan. it was not just the foreign- policy support. famously, they both worked to speak harsh truths about the unsustainability of the soviet union, something that coincided with the implosion

as obama said about ronald reagan, she transformed politics, as reagan did this in country. how to wield power without apology, without surrender, without any prisoners. you have to think about mitch mcconnell as he's debating whether or not to participate in the filibuster, he's looking in the mirror and see maggie thatcher stare back. >> he would say that i'm no surrender, i'm a leader. >> the boomerang of the reagan presidency, when you look at the record of ronald reagan and i'm no reaganist, right. but if you look at the record of ronald reagan and you're holding up, reagan is the greatest thing, ever, guess what, you're showing over and over and over again, that your republican party is no longer the party of ronald reagan. >> and john, we still have it here, the other things that you know, someone argued that thatcher's deregulation set the stage for a lot of the crises we have now, reading an excerpt from "vanity fair." margaret thatcher's financial reforms, notably her big bang deregulation of 1986, caused the stream of bankers to turn into a river and a deluge. gol

reagan and bush. i do remember one occasion, george will remember this, when we were about to invade grenade a, the first name the united states had used force since the vietnam war, military force. we, therefore, were holding it pretty close. we called the prime minister the night before the operation was to go down, and i was on the phone taking notes while president reagan talked to her. e told her that tomorr morng we're going to invade gren knowed a, that was a commonwealth country. she thought we should have called her while we were developing the plans, not after they were in train, in effect. she said, ronnie, this is notification not consultation. she was not a happy camper. but that just shows you, i think, that she was... she felt free to speak her mind but for the most part and in most instances she was 100% with the united states on practically evry issue. >> woodruff: secretary shutle, how much did it matter that she was a woman? >> she was a very attractive woman. so you were certainly

and ronald reagan elementary school in idaho, fundamentalal school in yuma, arizona, home of ronald reaganundamental patriots. and ronald reagan peace garden in illinois, peace garden, really? ronald reagan minuteman missile site, sports park in california, all of these are the work of the ronald reagan legacy project, created by american conservatives in 1997 with the express goal of creating a statue, park or road named after ronald reagan in all 3,000 counties. if yours doesn't have it, they're not going to rest until that changes in your county. while mr. reagan was in office, he was one of the most divisive political figures. divisiveness is not necessarily a bad thing, it is just true his supporters liked him a lot, his detractors disliked him a lot. he had a lot of detractors. you wouldn't know that now, but that's in part because the ronald reagan legacy project for a generation has been part of a concerted, conservative effort to make him into a hero, to gloss over what was unpopular about him, how much resistance there was to him in his time. he was almost impeached over iran con

with ronald reagan?no, i don't think so.a therebe were times when he wantd to do something and i said certainly not. there was never any tension between us >> what was about the relationship that created that atmosphere?a >> the fact that i knew and he knew we were working for thein same purpose and the same ends and often by the same methods. a that's just and great thing to know. the greatest nation in the world has the same view, the philosophy of life, justice and democracy. >> say looking back it is now clear ronald reagan's originali decision on fbi was cell mosts important on his presidency?>> b >> that was the one that made the russians to understand that they can never keep up with the technology of the united states. just having the capability and they knew full well we wereg going to a level of technology n that couldn't emulate. there was no point of trying to be the strongest super power in the world and threatening others with their power. that was the end of that particular dream. >> here'

reagan once called her the best man in england. she called him the second most important man in her life next to her beloved husband dennis. in 2004 a taped eulogy of baroness thatcher was played at president reagan's state funeral. >> in in his lifetime ronald reagan was a cheerful and invigorating presence but it was easy to forget what daunting tasks he set himself. he sought to mend america's wounded spirit. to reare so the strength of the free world, and to free the slaves of communism. martha: incredible video that we're seeing this morning that remind you so much of her, very strong internal core of strength in her convictions. there is another picture the two leader who shared their disdain for communism and helped to bring it down of course a passion for small government. what america knows as reaganomics is still called thatcherism in britain. they clearly shared their unique and strong philosophy on the economy, certainly did. mrs. thatcher, by the way first got her nickname, iron lady, from a soviet reporter after a 197

disagreement, when reagan invaded the commonwealth island of grenada. >> margaret told president reagan. she said, you know, ronny, this is notification. it's not consultation. >> reporter: as reagan prepared to leave office, thatcher predicted gorbachev would bring down the iron curtain. how would you rate his chances of success of really doing something to open it up? >> i think he's already made changes. i think the greater openness of discussion, debate -- both in the public media and privately is a very great step forward. >> reporter: when iraq invaded kuwait, thatcher famously advised president bush, "now is not the time to go wobbly." after 11 years as prime minister, thatcher was forced out in a public coup. she was portrayed by meryl streep. >> i will not negotiate with criminals or thugs. >> reporter: in 2004 thatcher eulogized reagan on video. >> we have lost a great president, a great american. >> reporter: although ailing she attended the funeral and burial in california. they had a special relationship as nancy reagan remembered today. >> oh, they did. they certainly did.

she even signals not only to ronald reagan, but nancy reagan, that they should think about doing businessi'm thinking that was all the moments, i remember after she left, so bitter over john major who she really fell aslep and i remember they came to the embassy here for a small dinner and major had just gotten himself into a huge model over currency devaluation and the pound was in trouble and all kinds of difficulties economically in the uk and very privately dennis, who was such a cheerleader. very loud cheerleader for his wife, always. which, of course, answers to the new prime minister major. but here is a former prime minister and he starts saying, well, i got into a taxi or however he phrased it in london and the driver said, you were going to be back at number ten soon. you were going to be back at number ten soon. he was so expressive about how angry she was and, of course, not only politically incorrect but diplomatically incorrect for him to be verballyizing this in front of all the american guests. but it was very clear that she was very angry at the way she had been pretty mu

let me say this about her and reagan. they were alone as conservative leaders in both in europe and in the united states. their bedrock relationship dealt with communism and with the russians. the soviet union. so that i think kept them together. let's remember, during the faulklands war. thatcher was furious with the siberian pipeline and other things. in the end, i think it was during those kinds of times of adversity that toned their relationship together. i will go back to where i started about women. you start about women. look, if it hadn't been for her, she was the first leader, woman leader in all of europe, for that matter, merkel and germany could thank margaret thatcher for blazing the trail and frankly so could hillary clinton. >> yes. that's what i was referring to. >> one the stories, greg, when she first met miguel gorbachev, she said to reagan work with gorbachev. in their first meeting apparently when she sat down, she said something along the lines of let me be very clear. i hate communism. and that's wh

at a time when there was this de facto marriage between reagan and thatcher.anted you to perhaps give us some of the better anecdotes that you remember from that time together and how he viewed her as a person as their relationship developed. >> right, ashleigh. well, there are so many things that i could say, but i might just point out two general areas for you. the first is that reagan always saw thatcher's election in britain in 1979 as the model for his election in 1980. the same economic forces of decline that were at work in britain in the 1970s also according to reagan existed in america. so when thatcher came to power, reagan saw that as a very, very good idealogical sign that he would be elected in 1980, and he talked about this many times during the campaign. the second thing would be -- >> go ahead. >> i was going to say the second thing would be when they both were in office reagan saw margaret thatcher as his essential partner for his plans to try to end the cold war on terms favorable to america. time after time, ashleigh, she ran important inter

reagan would always salute fdr. you admit great leadership because that's what you, yourself hope to achieve. here goes. i think margaret thatcher, the first woman to lead a great

and that, to a large extent, happened under the reagan administration or after the reagan administration and after the first couple of years of the gingrich congress in the mid '90s. the most successful conservative congress in history actually, in my argument, is, was the do-nothing congress after after world war ii where robert taft was the leader of a very successful long-term movement to control federal spending. they didn't repeal the new deal, but where they decided to strike, they struck decisively. they abolished programs. they didn't trim them. they eliminated price controls and the militarization of the u.s. economy. today didn't sort of tinker around its edges. they cut military spending. they, they also prevented the enactment of something that would have been way to the left of obamacare, a british national health service style of national health care that was being supported by the truman administration. they didn't have a lot of public opinion on their side. they didn't have a friendly president. they had a very hostile president in harry truman who was a firm believer in

the government was larger under reagan than it is now under obama now wait a minute let's look at this seventeen trillion dollars in debt i do not remember being seventeen trillion dollars in debt under ronald reagan nobody table the national debt already a little million people on food stamps on a literally i know you think it's a really good outtakes reaganomics you're going to play on i'm saying body at least you're not blaming george bush anymore we have gone back no longer it's no wonder bush's fault we're now going back away we also had one of the least that is that if you want if you're concerned about all those people on food stamps and let's at least say that if you're going to take you to run a business. you know rusty and i we run businesses right and maybe you do too i am not sure i have a lemonade ok all right so if you don't know if you're going to get get all the benefits of being able to deduct a meal and i have to you know there's all kinds of goodies that come with running a business at the very least you should pay your employees decently let's raise the minimum wage

that reagan brought to the united states in the one nine hundred eighty s. sure enough that your ushered in a new era of unequal wealth distribution in britain and the rise of the big banks and financial ization in london she also took the reins of a u.k. that was slinking away from global empire and launched into another colonial war in the falkland islands in one thousand nine hundred and her foreign policy she consistently supported the undemocratic over the democratic the strong over the weak she opposed sanctions on apartheid south africa and she was now live a gusto pinochet today as another wiki leaks dump contains new revelations about how western powers related to pinochet during his reign of terror that sure was not so secretive about her support for pinochet in one thousand nine hundred ninety said of him quote i'm also very much aware that it is you who brought democracy to chile you set up a constitution suitable for democracy you put it into effect elections were held and then accordance with the result you stepped out. of course that was only

ronald reagan was reelected. the republican held the senate until the 1986 elections, after the gingrich elections, republicans controlled the house until the 2006 election. they had the house for twelve years and the senate for most of that time period. the nothing-nothing congress was voted out in the next election. [laughter] in term of saving the country from a bigger government and making it possible for us to have the debates we were having with reagan and ginch i don't think you can argue with their success. i don't talk much in the book about calvin cool a.j. one reason is marketing. there are three books i know of on cool age right now. he governed during a period where limited government was the political norm in the united states. which i don't think is applicable to today. he was scaling back some vancesf the state during the progressive era from the progressive era. he succeeded a president that also wanted to return to normalcy in the person of warren g harding and what he was doing really was the p

now you get our exists now you are just going through the wheat when reagan did in office we were the largest creditor in the world we are now the largest debtor in the world when reagan came into office we're the largest exporter of exporter of manufactured goods the world we're now the largest importer i mean they should also we've got to be honest here tom and that is that government has expanded as gotten much much larger when we're spending a lot of money on things that we don't already spend money on rate reagan as a percentage of g.d.p. the government was larger under reagan than it is now under obama now wait a minute let's look at this seventeen trillion dollars in debt i do not remember being seventeen twenty. there's a debt under ronald reagan nobody table the national debt already a million people on food stamps on a literally i know you think it's a really good outtakes reaganomics you're going to play on i'm saying already at least you're not blaming george bush anymore we have gone bad no moderates no under bush's fault we're now going back away we also had one of the l

voelker crushed inflation, reagan backed him. i give him credit for.ice rebound after that which you always have when you are that deep. take the 12 years of bush and reagan towing, you had 3% gdp growth average. after that, we've had bubble after bubble of what i call inflation. first we had the fis dal bubble from reagan an bushment. >> what fiscal bubble? i went back and looked at the numbers. look, you are my boss, but i was the numbers guy in omb. i went back and checked some thing things. okay, reagan increased the debt by $1.5 trillion, a pittance according to growth. bill clinton also raised the debt by about the same amount. the two of them. i'm putting the ''80s and '90s together. i always thought it was clinton's third term. if you take a look at all this stuff, $3 trillion of debt was held in the ''80s and 'nine. do you know what household's net wealth did, they increased by $35 trillion a. factor of just about 12. $3 trillion in federal debt, $35 trillion in private holdhold debt. david stockman, you are not doing your math right. >> yes,

for reagan she was a real partner.s the conservative movement in the united states, you know, idolizes ronald reagan they owe just as much to margaret thatcher. >> she establishment in the party. just as ronald reagan had in 1976, the establishment of the republican party. i think that's a major part of her enduring legacy. she spoke with a clarity and conviction that we just don't see in most politicians today. even in most world leaders. and at a time when, you know, some conventional business wisdom here in washington and also elsewhere places such value on compromise. it's such a virtue. she, i think, reminds us it's not always good to compromise. in fact it's often good not to compromise on behalf of your principles to stand firm on the things you believe in most. and one of the interesting things as we see the euro crisis playing out over in europe to remember is that she fought that tooth and nail and if you go back and look at her books, she was prophetic in predicting what would happen with the common currency

this is the society that thatcher and reagan gave us. societies of shrinking middle classes and tremendously high levels of inequality. if you do not like that vision, you have little occasion to celebrate margaret thatcher today. joining me, cass sunstein and author of "simpler" and martin bashir. it's a great pleasure to have you both here. cass, i'll begin with you. i have now given a rip-roaring leftist attack on margaret thatcher. partly as a useful corrective to the quite understandable desire to speak graciously, and i obviously wish her family no ill and it's sad when people pass. is there anything salvageable for liberals, for people who ascribe to the left about the thatcher legacy or as i just intimated, it's all essentially our enemy? >> well, one of the most serious environmental problems of the last 40 or 50 years, maybe more, is the destruction of the ozone layer. that was something where a lot of conservatives in the united states in the '80s were ridiculing, saying it wasn't a problem, the world shouldn't do anything abo

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reagan called her the best man in england. him the second most important man in my life. >> there is no doubt that ronald reagan would not have the legacy that he has here in the united states if it wasn't for the relationship that he had with margaret thatcher . >> the news again this morning, margaret thatcher former prime minister of great britain dead at the age of 87. british media saying they believe it was a stroke. >>> a new study released sunday shows an alarming link between a dietary compound found in red meat and heart disease. now we've heard before that it's the fat in red meat that can be bad for your heart. but this is something very different. and it's getting a lot of attention this morning. let's bring in elizabeth cohen. what exactly is this compound in red meat that is supposed to be so bad for us? >> the chemical is called carnitine. and researchers are just now beginning to go cuss in on on it. and i think this study surprised a lot of people. carnitine converts to a chemical called tmao, and when they l

reviving capitalism and freedom was a reagan similar thatcher mission. she battled british unions when strikes paralyzed the uk. >> what we've got is an attempt to substitute the law of the mob for the rule of law. >> reporter: when reagan came to power in 1981, he broke the u.s. air traffic controllers union when they struck. russians called thatcher the iron lady and the nickname stuck. >> we always watched that handbag, literally on her arm, waiting to see if she was going to swing it at us. >> reporter: liberal actress meryl streep played thatcher in "the iron lady." her hard-nosed fiscal measures took a toll on the poor but she was a figure of awe for her strength and grit. >> michelle and i send our thoughts to the thatcher family as we carry another work to which she dedicated her life. free peoples standing together. margaret thatcher had come to washington in 2004 to mourn ronald reagan's passing. today, most here agree, baroness thatcher was a major factor in american history. live from washington, i'm steve handelsman, nbc bay area news. >> th

reagan too. so let's talk. joining us now from florida, former member of the british parliament, john brown, he is now with euro pacific capital and writer and blogger daniel hannan, he is a member of the parliame parliament, and mark samone, john brown, welcome back. john brown, she'd not go wobbly, john, and this is my favorite. trouble with socialism she said is that they run out of other people's money. how important was margaret thatcher to great britain. >> she she turned it around anda single word for which people died, it was freedom. and from that freedom, against external aggression like the faulkland islands and the first gulf war. freedom from over bearing tax and the freedom from excessive regulation comes enterprise and we had fantastic enterprise, we had a debt repayment schedule in parliament thrilling and britain gained one of the most important things in life. its pride, again, and that's what reagan gave back to the united states. exactly the same. >> now, mr. daniel hannan, welcome to the "k

reporting live from reagan national airport, i'm jessica doyle. back to you in the studio. >> thank you. i heard that southwest airlines is actually trying to accommodate people without ticket change fees or any other fees to get them home sooner. hopefully people get out of boston and are able to get home quickly. >>> the attack in boston led to an immediate response from d.c. law enforcement agencies. >> on capitol hill, house speaker john boehner ordered the flags to be flown at half staff. coming up, we'll have more on some of the local security measures that are now in place. there's a big event here in ttpcwwww >>> welcome back. 5:09. temps in the 50s. there may be a spot or to of drizzle. here's your forecast. dow expect a little bit of sunshine to break out this afternoon. with winds out of the south, that should help boost temperatures warmer than yesterday's low 60s. i think we'll be in the mid-70s before the day is out. shower chances, though, there's several of them in the seven- day forecast. we'll tell you about that in about five m

posted reagan california, this economy, frank, why would you want to do that? it involves heritage since the first day but did take over heritage instead of moving your family. i think linda was happy all photius the new yorker. totally missed the inside story. >> made the decision. >> and here we are. [applause] >> the funny thing was as you recounted in this book, anthony fisher's attorney was a very prominent new york attorney, 26 floor of the old pan am building and his name was william casey as n ronald reagan, the cia. i have gone up with anthony fisher and we were close to signing on the dotted line. five years later, six years later, our father and i go out to a supersecret office of the cia and ask about their heritage for our tenth anniversary, bill casey looked very spurned, and across the desk, all right, that far out of the field. so kind of an interesting thing. so in the spring of 1970 -- -- [laughter] >> why? what was there about working at the beginning to say it was outside, but basically not that well-known, a little on the periphery of event

it was her, it was her introduction of gorbachev to ronald reagan gave president reagan the sense he could negotiate with this man, he could work with this man so it was a collaborative effort. >> she was somebody as i say who was very divisive but she was also, as tony blair alluded to, capable of great acts of kindness. she was also somebody who had a ferocious work ethic. she lived off about three or four hours' sleep a night. she used to get a tumbler of whiskey down at the end of the evening, wake up in the middle of the night and go off again. remarkable energy and so on. someone said to me something very interesting today. they said you know, she was never really happy again after she was kicked out of office. can you recognize that in somebody like her who was so consumed by the job and the power? >> sure. i think that's probably true, although probably exaggerated. i got to know margaret thatcher better after she was out of office. that's when i got to talk to her, got to know her. i once substituted for her at a speech when she got ill. she was probably somewhat unhappy out

what draws -- well, we know ronald reagan, right?l labor unions. margaret thatcher was for all of those things. >> absolutely. they stood for many of the same things as ronald reagan stood for in the united states. of course, she worked in a different country in a different system, but nonetheless, you could see the lessons transferring from one country to the other. they both opposed the soviet union. they both fought the cold war. they both recognized gorbachev as a man, as lady thatcher said, that we could do business with. at home they wanted smaller government, lower taxation, and greater liberty for the individual, and, of course, they recognized each other as friends and comrades and wrote and met with each other frequently. it's quite natural that conservatism in the u.s. see margaret thatcher as a great ally and friend of theirs. >> what will her legacy be? >> i think her legacy will be the greatest prime minister of the 20th century apart from winston churchill. a great leader of britain. a great leader of the western world