. >> i jus find it jane marks -- d i do think liberals were complaining today about reblicans going overeachhis is something that has bee there. the irs has a hundred thsand employees. there are a lot of od employees. >> it is t quality of the town and people managing this. >> here it is, mr. axelrod. obama said the same thing. the government is too big. that is the same complaints that the tea party has been making. >> when i see the smissal this, i have to say wait a second, when you talk to people who ran the irs and they say e same team they have seen it happen, it is so still busy to run a big government and feel powerful at tha. >> i was just going to say the people running the irs, per se. it is quality people. government is going to contie to grow. the economyrows, the population rows. >> and is o of the things that i have. if we know part of this gowing problem is the birth, then wouldn't you think twice about signing this to the irs when it comes to health care? >> potentially. >> you know, i think that peop are bleeding their fear into their fear of govrnment spying fromhe corpora

. >> well, -- lou: ironic given this president lashed president obama and the reblican arty for theirailure to rse above uuilateraliim. >> yes. well, you know, look, think she would impleme his policy. she's not the most objtionable nominee that - lou: that is the highest standard i heard applied. >> the fact is -- lou: he most objectionable. >> i want to see her not get through, but the fact is she's going to get through. i mean, loo at who got though so ar. there'seen clear cases to stuff, a number of these nominee, and the republicans haveot stopped them. i don't thk this is the hill they die on. u: andr, good to have you here. >> thank yu si. lou: new developments with the embattled revenue service. the irs today putting two of the senior staffers on administrative leave because they accepted free gifts in violation of government ethic standards. the two employees tasked th the enforcingobamacare allegedly accepted more tan a thousandollar in free food in a lavish california conference in 200. the move comes after an ininspecter genral repor this week fou the irs spent $50 millio

reblican in congress made a big role in it too. evidence shows if you restrain the growth of government or better actually cut government spding, you are freeing up resourcesor productive sector of the economy that is where you get growth. we have t focus on taking government, which figuring out, how to at least restrict it so it is growing slower than privacy sector. john: well good luck with that, dan mitchell. coming up. two economists will argue about austerity. >> if you first, a man who said that must tert off the turty is like debtor's prin. [ male announcer ] summer is here. and sooo is the summer event. now get an increble offer on the powerful, efficient c250 sport sedan with an agility control sport-tuned suspension. but hurry before this portunity... disappears. the mercedes-benz summer ent ends soon. ♪ ♪ hn: i say, bring on what the punditting calling austerity. let's cut stuff. government spending $3.8 trillionsow. and sorry that is just theefeds, stat and local government spends more, it is too much, every dollar the

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zealand did the same thing in 1990s, and actual to be fair, bill clinton was much better than a lot of reblicans. at least he restrained the growth in spending. republican in congress made a big role in it too. evidence shows if you rtrain the growth of government or better actuay cut government spending, you are freeing up resources for productive sector of the economy that is where you get growth. we have to focus on taking government, which figuring out, how to at lest restrict it so it is growing slower than privacy sector. john: well good luck with that, dancoming up. two economists will argue about austerity. >> if you first, aan who said that must tert o the turty is like debtor's priso we nt out and asked people a simple question: how old is the oldest person you've known? we gave people aticker and hathem show us. we learned a lot of us have known someone who's lived well into their 90s. and that's a great thing. but even though we're living lger, one thing that hasn changed much is the official retirement age. ♪ the questiois how do you make sure you have the money you need to enjoy al

you have successful reblicans on both sides this issue that armaking the case to a americans, whether you're hispanic, african-erican, white, everyone in between. >> how many town hall meetings have been held onmmigration reform? by whom? >> republicans or democrats. >> i don't keep a tally on how many on justmmigration reform. >> i know it's not a big ise with you guys but i pay attention to it. they haven't had any. that's a shame. people should be ab to come into a republican sponsored ton hall meeting and express themselves. >> i've had one and -- >> friday? >> i think it friday afternoon in santa ana. so've doneem >> good. i hope you keep dog them. last time folks got kind of squeezed o of the deal. maybe it will be different this time. reince priebus, thank you. >> it's being called a threat to the world. a super bug with no known cure and kills at aalarming rate.ks >>> turning to a deay new reat that has world health official on alt. the world organizatn confirmed five more cases of middle east represents syndrome, the coronavirus, the sars-like virus is a threat to the entire