if they recidivate it impacts the jail population one way or the other. they are going to be in on a violation because they are go going recidivate at that rate. we have been extremely successful and we are going to meet that target. the sheriff's population has decreased 25 percent since 2010 since we've moved all of this evidence based probation and supervision and all of these initiatives. and we've increased probation termination up to 85 percent. we know what we are doing and my probation population is down to 25. >>supervisor mark farrell: there are a lot of stats flying around here that i have not had the opportunity to discuss or vet. i would feel more comfortable to review this for a week to sit down. especially red flags are always raised in my head when our budget analyst doesn't agree on data. numbers are facts. i would suggest we continue this item for a week to sit down and meet and understand this and make sure that everyone is agreeing on the numbers. if you will. i don't know if you have any comment on that. i don't want to waste any time

when i took office, recidivism rates were in the mid-60s for san francisco and the state in the high 70 percent. to me, that's failure. we have been working with the kind of precision partnership with members of the criminal justice system to target on repeat offender and high recidivism rates through the ab 109 population in it's quest to then bring back and return a number of so-called low level offenders from the state to county governments. we want to treat this population in a way that we believe the rest of the population should be treated and that is with the onset of incarceration of our county system through the reentry pod 2 of 56 patients would transport from san quentin site and bring in a strategic on going with adult probation. those in our custody in the joint custody of the sheriff's department shared with the program and supervision of adult probation, we are that level of programming such as cognitive behavioral programming, restorative justice and parenting, some of our educational programs and substance abuse treatment and more would occur from the beginning to th

making it tougher for a returning citizen to have their rights restored would actually reduce the recidivismate. >> just caveat to what desmond shared. there was a study that looked to barriers to re-entry, and one of the things it talked about was with respect to just employment alone. it really hurts our nation when we make it difficult for the formally incarcerated to get jobs. it talked about our ability to produce products, to ensure we have enough workers to still do the jobs in this country, is significant decreased by the fact that we don't make opportunities available to become part of the work force, so it really does go against the self interests of the country if we make it harder for these individuals who are indeed coming back into the community to reintegrate and become productive members of society. >> do they have to decide whether to support rights or rein-tait grate excons? >> the reintegration of excons as i said is a choice that individuals make. there is no state or federal law that say wal-mart can't hire excons. what economists tell us is if you require wal-mart to hi

yet we know having a stable job and housing are the two most colt cal factors that reduce recidivism. so, what if we could change that reality so that employers and housing providers could still obtain all the relevant information that they need to make responsible decisions and yet at the same time 65 million americans who live with an arrest or conviction record in the past can get a fair chance to present their qualifications first. over the last year our office along with supervisor malia cohen worked with a broad range of stakeholders so rights advocates, nonprofit and private housing developers, business community and law enforcement to develop the fair chance act. our goal was to reduce racial difficult parrott in the criminal justice system, improve safety and well-being, yet reduce the cost of the criminal justice system saving taxpayer dollars. we knew the success of this policy hinged on stakeholders investing this law work. an attestment to years worth of teamwork, it is coming to the full board for historic vote including both hometown youth papers san francisco chronicle

research shows when you label somebody ex-connor ex-felon that contributes to the likelihood of recidivismld start first by finding a different or more positive term to use when talking about individuals who have been formerly incarcerated. that's step one. step two is that we have to find ways to lift the values or individuals that are released from prison, one of the main institution that his we have been working with have been churches or congregations, faith congress games. because we believe that they play a vital role in being able to welcome an individual back in to their community and they could also stand on faith principles of forgiveness, respiration and redemption. and so i think that with those two we could be well on our way. >> horace, is it in society's best interest to take an active role in to helping these people reintegrate in to society rather than just saying, you committed your crime, figure it out? >> well, first of all there are great groups lie prison fellowship and other organization that his actually work with individuals who are choosing to repent and want to g

attorney general holder acknowledged that recidivism rates are very high.i don't think it makes sense to assume, you know, automatically that these people should have the right to vote restored. i would be all in favor of having the right to vote restored at some point after the individual has shown that they are a positive force in the community, rather than a negative force, and having a ceremony sort of like a naturalization ceremony. where you appear before the judge and the judge congratulates you on the new turn your life has taken, and then giving your, your right to vote back. i think that's the way to achieve this end that attorney general holder spoke about. but just to have it be automatic without any showing that the person has turned over a new leaf i think doesn't make sense. >> dale how about that? the ideas that someone should take affirmative steps to rein-tait grate themselves into a, for wan of a better term, decent society? >> i think someone has completed their sentence, we have already decided this person has done their time, so to spe

recidivism increases if you don't let people vote. over time we're seeing greater liberalization, and i expect that to happen. >> in the florida example, doing something by executive order may have some appeal, because you get it done right away, but it becomes reversible once someone else becomes governor. >> yes, i think so. where governor mcdonald said anyone convicted of a non-violent crime would almost have an automatic restoration process. the problem is even though it was a vigorous campaign, 8,000 people had their rights restored, this is a population of 300,000 people who completed their sentences and can't vote. any time we do this on a piecemeal basis it's never going to get to the level of what the problem is all about. we have to decide if this is reasonable to disenfranchising that many people, and if not, we need to change our policy, and not just a case-by-case remedy. >> we'll look at federalism, how this is done on a state by state basis, and what it would take to get the vote back for so many people who had it taken

it is counterproductive to our efforts to improve reentry and reduce recidivism. and it's well past time that we affirm - as a nation - that the free exercise of our citizens' most fundamental rights should never be subject to politics, or geography, or the lingering effects of flawed and unjust policies. i applaud those - like senator rand paul, of kentucky - who have already shown leadership in helping to address this issue. and i encourage each of you to consider and take up this fight in your home states. of course, i recognize that this reform, and the other changes we seek, will not be easy to achieve. and none of them will take hold overnight. i know that, as law enforcement leaders, your work has in many ways never been more complex or more challenging. and particularly in this time of budgetary uncertainty - when unwise, across-the-board cuts have impacted federal, state, and local programs we depend upon - you and your colleagues need all the support, and all the resources, you can get. that's why i will never stop fighting to provide the tools and assis

they're proven to reduce recidivism well improving public safety. now, rather than increasing costs and new report funded by the bureau of justice assistance projects a lease 17 states will save over $4 billion. the full impact of largess is reinvest and policies will remain to be seen in this did these efforts are bearing fruit from georgia, north carolina, texas, ohio and far beyond all we've invested in serious reform including public safety, improving public safety and saving public resources. i believe that the changes that have led to these remarkable results if it should be carefully studied and they should be emulated which is why last august in a speech before the american bar association in san francisco i it announced a news marron crime initiative that is allowing the disbarment to expend any innovations that so many states have led. smarter and more efficient in battling crime. the conditions and choices that breed crime and to develop and implement common-sense reforms of the federal criminal justice system. now, under this initiative

there is an estimated 80% recidivism rate, severe mental illness. and family counseling prior to and following release. it helps families work the resentment and guilt. tailor parole policies. there is a bread company named killer dave owned by -- >> oregon? >> he heres ex fell options to give them a place. a great non-property. career opportunities. these men, the bad egs, if you will of societygs, if you will of society. they are contributing to society. >> my favorite cinnamon bread hands-down. the initiatives are doing some innovative things. what's working? >> re refuse to use those terms anymore. we refer to it as having a problem. research has shown when you label somebody an ex-acog, that contributes to the likelihood of recidivm. we should start by using a more positive term to use when talking about individuals who have been formerly incarcerated. >> that's step 1. step 2 is that we have to find ways to lift the value of individuals that are released from prison and one of the main institutions that we have been working with has been churc

data tells us that access to housing and employment opportunities are key components to preventing recidivism and supporting public safety in our communities. the legislation is really long overdue and this is -- certainly think supervisor kim agrees, this is landmark legislation and it's long overdue and i believe it will help eliminate the conscious and more importantly unconscious bias that exists when hiring and housing individuals with a conviction history. as a city it's time for us to help change the perception of people who served their time, paid their debt to sew satiety and want to be productive workers in community. this legislation is not designed to give individuals a preference. rather, it's to ensure they are judged on qualifications, not their previous actions. and there is a long list of folks that have helped to make this a reality. i'd like to take a moment just to thank a few of the organizations that have helped us along the way. all of us or none, legal serve is he for prisoners with children, lawyers committee for civil rights national power, coalition on homelessness,

indeed exasperating recidivism and the cycle of incarceration. [speaker not understood] from san francisco wrote, people deserve second chances to live productive live. that can't happen if there is a bias built into every interview process. this levels the playing field and gives a quail [speaker not understood]. last rebecca from san francisco wrote, many individuals encounter multiple barriers in their life to obtain secure employment such as education past experience, [speaker not understood]. however, just because an individual committed a crime in the past should not prevent them from obtaining a stable job. employment is crucial to a person's stability, housing and self-worth. by removing the box will help more people move into employment and toward self-sufficiency. the [speaker not understood] supports the fair chance ordinance and i urge you to vote yes. thank you. >> thank you. >>> hi, my name is [speaker not understood] vanderhorst and i'm here to sub mort the fair chance act. i'm not going to do a policy speech. i'm going to do somet

and that studies as many of you know show stable opportunity to housing and employment reduces recidivism thus increasing public safety and public dollars. there are racial [speaker not understood] resulting in devastating impacts in our communities of color and criminal records reduce the likelihood of job call backs and offer up to 50% just by checking that box on that first application before you even have an opportunity to prove that you are qualified for the job or come in for an interview and showcase your story. more than 90% of companies report using a criminal background check in their hiring. the reduced output of goods and services of people with felonies and prison records are between 57 and $60 billion in losses. past incarcerations have reduced men's yearly earnings by 40%. and legislation that we are introducing is a recommended best practice, already used by the eeoc for employers. these policies have already been implemented by the second-largest retailer in the u.s., target, and we want to thank target for supporting this legislation, but also modeling it before we even

which is recidivism. we hear about the cradle to prison pipeline blue it turns out sometimes it becomes the prison back to the streets back to the prison pipeline as well. what in this initiative starting about you, gail, would actually address this in the lasting way? >> communities have to be able to embrace the young men that return to the communities. they have to be able to be employed. that's one way to break the cycle of recidivism. even access to proper medical care, including mental health care. there are models all over the country where they have beefed up the services within the community. and they have provided access to health care and mental health care in particular, which helped to break the cycle, and reduce recidivism dramatically so there are ways to do this. and i couldn't agree more that it is a public responsibility as well as a private responsibility. >> professor glaude, how do you measure improvement on things like this? >> oh, well, we can measure it by just looking at the data,

is have we pursued this with such a strategy prison above all else, so that we have a cycle of recidivismtead of rehabilitation. someone like him grinding through the normal process would end up in jail own and end up i cycle of recidivism and not get the treatment they need. >> i want to get your thoughts on the recent supreme court decision last week. the court ruled a heroin dealer could not be held liable for his client's death. this would seem to be -- the confluence of the far right civil liberties, libertarian strain, and the progressive movement that seeks reform in our criminal justice system, i wonder if you think we are moving -- i mean, this is the future. at the state and the federal level, we'll have more leniency in regard to drug crimes. >> to your point of are we moving? yes. of course heroin is bad. of course dealing it is bad. but the attempt by prosecutors to throw multiple decades at people was too far. what you saw the supreme court there say in a case that's gone through years of litigation, this is too far. yes, you can punish this, but you shouldn't be punishing d

any studies on the effects of solitary confinement on recidivism and early entry? >> there's been no stoids as a result of the hearing conducted in 2012 when that was presented to me, and we have not participated in any type of study. we dprea to undergo the analysis that's take b place right now with cna, and hopefully from that review, we'll have some insight, but, senator, i have to add, when you are looking at recidivism, that will require a long period of time to assess when you're looking at the number of individuals who have since been released and impact on recidivism, and, also, they have resources for ensuring if we undertake something like that, there's substantial costs, but currently, we do not have anything like that in place other than what we're being looked at. >> i recognize that it's not that easy to determine cause and effect in these situations. are you aware of situations that show differences in the effects of solitary confinement on men and women? >> no. >> is this an aspect going to be addressed in some ways in the studies you refer to? >>

and both the rebefore a data tells the biggest carts of recidivism they saw this as a piece of legislation. we take a look at other models that have coward throughout the country where san francisco is not the first to look at criminal history and a employment positions. we take a look at the cities like seattle and beautifully and philadelphia and the state legislation that passed something for their hiring practices and the city and county of san francisco went through a process of resint their process. their has been clearly federal guidelines on the hiring decisions largely protecting user against the discrepancy claims. we had the robust lengthen i didn't documents. if you have questions about the housing or cathy portions they're very similar so most of the mechanisms are pretty consistent throughout the entire dochlt. so the key sort of objective this ordinance does it - the goal is to get individuals with a criminal record through the process. we've seen unconscious bias if people have a prior conviction they'll have the weed out tools for the providers in the city. it's a goal to

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do you believe these tough measures help rehabilitation and recidivism. >> first of guy the guy keepsepeating what he reads in some garbage newspaper. we don't charge the inmates. they should be paying us. i will be charging them for their food, but i don't give them money when they work on a chain gang or anything else. maybe other prisons do. number 2, it's not 120 degrees. it's 135 degrees in the summertime. and let me say this, our men and women are fighting for our count think. they are living in the tents. so what is wrong with convicted -- they are all convicted, doing their time in a tent? >> joe, i -- i -- sheriff joe, i think your jail was the only one ever investigated by amnesty because there were so many allegations of human rights complaints. how do you define inmate rights? what rights do those people have? >> first of all, i'm not the only one. they are investigating prisons all over the world. mine is like a country club compared to foreign countries, including mexico. so if they investigated me, where did it go? it didn't go anywhere. the tents are still there. the j

found in one study is that if the father has a history of chronic criminal behavior with a lot of recidivism and the mother is an alcoholic or drug addict or has a major personality disorder, and you have that combination of disturbances, then there ia three-fold increase in the likelihood of violent crime on the part of the child. i've gotten angry enough to where i've actually impulsively hit pele, you know, not meaning to at all, you know, or i'd punch a wall or something. you know, it's just, i get that-- you get this sudden rush, and you've just got to release it somehow. like dean lindstrom, lynda has impulsively hit people, but she does not have an antisocial personality disorder, for unlike dean, she experiences pain and remorse from her actions. she engages in self-destructive behavior and other traits of the borderline personality disorder. the term borderline originally reflected the belief that these people fluctuated between neurosis and psychosis. today, it's a distinct disorder with its own constellation of character features. up to 4% of the population has borderline personal

or among the highest recidivism we we used to spend twenty six percent on infrastructure and now we spend three percent on infrastructure california has failed us the system is not working we had great people governing california and and for some reason it has not worked and i think it's just too big too unwieldy and we're just not close to our government anymore. there's a lot of skepticism i was reading about this about this actually becoming a reality do you really think allophonic can split up into six pieces and i want to ask you why thick white then why not to state the line out there he states how did you come up with their with these corners. so what's great about creating six new states is that it gives california refresh should start if you started with a blank sheet of paper and you looked at california there is no way you'd come up with a government agency today you do instead with with six californias it creates six new states that allows people the opportunity to first be a lot closer to their government and it allows them to get to start over and start thinking what w

and our recidivism rates go down. that equals less violent crime. save one, it's worth it all. one is worth it. and so no one, no one in his right mind would object to trying to have morality in a prison. unless he's an idiot. >>> coming up on "lockup angola" -- >> how long you been here? >> 24 years. >> time in angola runs out for two men. >> i will maintain my mental stability. >> one walks. the other stays. forever. [ female announcer ] you get sick, you can't breathe through your nose... suddenly you're a mouthbreather. well, put on a breathe right strip and instantly open your nose up to 38% more than cold medicines alone. so you can breathe and sleep. shut your mouth and sleep right. breathe right. i'm tto guard their manhood with train depend shields and guards. the discreet protection that's just for guys. now, it's your turn. get my training tips at guardyourmanhood.com add vanishing deductible from nationwide insurance and get $100 off your deductible for every year of safe driving. which means you could save... a lot of benjamins. we put

because it is relatively new, we don't have statistics as far as recidivism rate, but we do know that we're giving them the tools to survive without re-offending out in society. >> it is liberating. i mean, it is like a weight off my shoulders. i'm not hiding anymore. i found out that i'm not the only one. >> historically in all prison settings sex offenders are low man on the totem pole, so to speak. inmates can't tolerate sex offenders. they really don't even like living in the same prison with them. >> you hear all the stories about this happens to sex offenders, you know, stabbings, beatings, rape. that's still a very fresh memory also. so i was scared. >> today alex's worries are focused not on his safety in prison, but about his re-entry commission about his release, which is just months away. >> re-entry committee is pretty much where i meet with all the department heads. mental health, security, education. they go over all of the things that -- the classes and programs i have taken while i have been in here. and give me any suggestions about what they think would be helpful fo

they have more recidivism because of being put in prison instead of being put in treatment. this is about mental health courts and veterans courts. i would like to submit records as a report that i received from the wounded warrior project and amvets. i would like to submit articles from the star tribune administered a public radio that discussed this issue. object?ct -- do you >> they are in the records. monday, the department announced that it would let companies disclose the number of certain surveillance orders they get and the number of customers affected by those orders. a step forward for transparency. i want to thank you for your work on this. i respectfully -- i don't think it's enough transparency. appeal to the surveillance program that has been declassified. the call records programs, it affects millions of americans. company disclosures are optional and voluntary. unless the government tells the american people how many of them have had their information collected under all these programs, the public will not know the full scope of surveillance. i have a biparti

charles: purely from economics, 60,000 per year, recidivism rate of 40%.and can get these guys in education, get them out there on their feet and you never have to worry about them going back into the system. >> first of all, i question 5,000. i still have loans out of my college education. let's make it -- charles: if someone in the head with a brick. >> okay. i will keep that in mind, but i am looking at this from a point of view are rewarding people for failing which is not the way our society should be generating. we have charter schools that the mayor is proposing he is going to charge to use public schools base. these are the most disadvantaged children. we're turning around and lament the most disadvantaged children have it harder to finish an education degree turn around and go on into prison and get their education. those numbers don't add up. trade schools, give incentives to trade industries and trainees there are other solutions. most of those with college degrees realize we have to get a background check. your going to get a background check a

few that would profit from these policies being in place in florida because it contributes to the recidivism. one of the tactics they would probably use is saying that -- we heard the attorney general even mention that research has showed the majority of people who are impacted by these policies tend to vote for the democratic party. however, what i can tell you in florida is that there are republicans who are disfranchised. when the policy changes were made in florida which allowed nonviolent offenders to have their rights restored automatically, it was governor charlie crist, a republican at the time i'm a virginia, their governor and attorney general or republican when they recently made the changes, and we know what is going on in kentucky. so this issue transcends political lines. it is about humanity. it is an all-american issue, not about democrat or republican. it is about the common decency of letting an individual or helping an individual to reach a great back into their cash reintegrate back into their community so they can become productive citizens and enjoy life. >> and if you

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rates go down when people are able to engage in civic participation. >> on that point of the recidivismhave to ask for their rights to be reinstated? so just by that alone, these are folks who are clearly trying to get back into society, trying to get back into the fold and want this right back. so are those really good numbers to go by? >> they're definitely good numbers to go by because people get more engaged. if you've been through the criminal justice system, people typically do care about the kinds of laws that impact their lives. and really important to this is, one in five african-americans in states like virginia and florida don't have their right to vote due to felony convictions. that devastates those communities when there is a loss of political power due to these felony convictions. so you could imagine that mass incarceration and the war on drugs that has devastated black communities also has had this other collateral consequence, which is taking away political power. but we've had some wins. in virginia, we were involved in pushing on the governor to get him to restore ri

. >> the recidivism rates bear that out., he is not, of course, the only celebrity or talented actor to struggle with heroin. we think of people like river phoenix, janice joplin, john belushi. how does it affect, do you think, what people around the country perceive on this drug use? >> also cory monteith from "glee," the autopsy found traces of heroin in his body. i think the problem is with the addiction that people don't think of philip seymour hoffman, as the face of heroin addiction, and with the media coverage and celebrities coming forward and grieving mourning his passing, people may realize this isn't something they think can just affect one person. the face of heroin addiction isn't just one face. i think that's a good message to put out there. as people continue to mourn and grieve, and it's very unexpected. i don't think a lot of people were expecting, you know, people in hollywood are just completely shocked. >> general, what about that? i mean, the pop culture impact here? >> well, it's a problem. our msnbc vi

recidivism is a problem in prison and it's a problem in terrorism, too so you are never certain thatu have changed the views. there are some good cases and the saudi's worked hard on this because they are stunned by the fact many of the dollars came from the various money that's usually private in saudi arabia. they want to fight back and they also cost hi goffstown by the as like saudi hezbollah and such a, but the terrorist groups or trying to overcome a personal direct threat, too so this can be part of a grander strategy and it is one of the many areas that we have much to learn from our partners. they are sometimes ahead of us and there is more we can learn about that. >> i'm going to ask the last question and the night with you answer it and take it where ever you want to do your wrapped up anwrapup andthen we will conclum going to steal this from your introduction. americans are very performance oriented. we like to finish this and be done, walk away and move on to the next events. will we ever be able to say that we have defeated terrorism? >> i don't think so. the method and

. >> well, it's not -- i think, shep, so far this is really not a classic case of recidivism.t's not as though he's returned to the fight yet. that hasn't been demonstrated. we'll wait to see sort of how this case develops. i think it will shine a light on, again, gitmo because the president, again, raised closing gitmo in his stateme of the uni address and a lot of people there who are slated for transfer out right now, as well as on the syria conflict. we talk and talk about the syria conflict. i hear people say this isn't a threat to our interests. it's easy to forget you have foreign fighters flocking to this conflict. far more than we had in iraq or even afghanistan in the 1980s. and ultimately at some point, those will pose a threat to our countries, to other countries besides sere wra. >> yeah, how could they not? michael singh with us, nice to see you again. thank you. >> good to see you, thank you. >>> the white house has reportedly been secretly debating whether to launch a cyber attack on syria. "the new york times" newspaper reports in today's edition and online th

most of the felons will vote for them rather than the republicans would like -- there is a 50% recidivism i'm betting most felons are thinking -- they're going to vote. >> and the attorney general is very interesting. >> strange bedfellows. >> yes. >> do you see any pigs flying out there? all right. it thank you, guys. appreciate it. >>> in the world of washington lobbyists, a shocking number have the closest connections of all. they're actually relatives of lawmakers. paid to influence. we're keeping them honest, coming up. hey guys! sorry we're late. did you run into traffic? no, just had to stop by the house to grab a few things. you stopped by the house? uh-huh. yea. alright, whenever you get your stuff, run upstairs, get cleaned up for dinner. you leave the house in good shape? yea. yea, of course. ♪ [ sportscaster talking on tv ] last-second field go-- yea, sure ya did. [ male announcer ] introducing at&t digital life. personalized home security and automation. get professionally monitored security for just $29.99 a month. with limited availability in select markets. ♪ are you flo?