recovery measures. he started to deal with the bigger issues. >> you're no nonsense on television.is book as well, you talk about having the strength and the will power. but what do you think the biggest challenge is for people in making a change. even if they want it, it's not an easy thing to do. >> no, it's not. i think the biggest issue is that many people don't believe in their ability to change. and they might get excited or inspired or motivated. and then they'll make the giant effort. but with misinformation, possibly have a setback, get defeated and in the cycle begins again. so how you build that belief in yourself is by having the skill set to achieve these small successes so you experience the reality where the glass is actually half full and then you can buy in. >> you talk about role models and the effect they have on all of our lives. your role model, among many, perhaps, but your mom you write about? >> my mom has been such an incredible inspiration for me in my life. and i grew up in an environment where, you know, my mother left the job she didn't love, pursued --