republicans are not going to be happy. they're not going to be satisfied unless hunter biden gets life imprisonment, death penalty, or commit suicide. only then will they be satiated and that is the truth. they are very bloodthirsty. this whole idea that hunter biden is the big bogeyman and not donald trump, who was president of the united states, people died in that riot. host: appreciate the call. final thoughts. guest: that is going to be the argument. it is not an apples to apples comparison and for no other reason than i hunter biden it was never president of the united states. republicans are trying to center their investigation to hunter biden more and more on the president himself rather than just his son. clearly in the absence of that family relationship, would any of these business arrangements be possible, but yes, it is possible and certainly, a possibility that once you move beyond republican primary electorate, that is not as engaging as a potable argument. host: james antle, read more at washington examiner

look at the republican governors. two of the governors in those states were republican. both of them said no. look at republicans who were secretaries of state who oversaw the election, all of them said no. take a look at the republicans who were his judicial employees including people of the supreme court who could have interviewed -- intervened judicially. or the supreme court in texas they filed a lawsuit to intervened to get the electoral votes of five other states overturned. all of these justices that now. then you have what happened on capitol hill where a number of -- mike pence per could have said yes but he said no and republicans could have acted in lockstep and try to overturn the results. the overwhelming majority of the senate and large numbers of republican congressman said no. it's clear that had republicans and even a few republicans during this process, bowed to pressure and said yes to the president, we would have had a constitutional crisis in our democracy would be even weaker. host: so the indictments came down last week and it was the president ove

republican party. how you doing? it turned out not to be a race at all. which means the only republican who appears to have any shot at all at running against president biden is the former guy, who as chris christie pointed out this weekend is likely to be out on bail in four different jurisdictions by the time of the first presidential republican al debate provided they have one given these are the contours of the republican presidential primary. the only person who the republican party appears capable of putting up to run against joe biden is someone who's likely to be out on bail in as many as four different jurisdictions by the time the first republican debate happens. it's someone who is running for the presidency as a hail mary to dismantle the american legal system and constitutional structure and thereby keep himself out of prison. this is not the only candidate theon republicans should be abl to credibly field in this election against joe biden if they really think that president biden is -- b

yes, i think republican voters i - think republican voters i haven't many republican voters are quiterticulated by governor christie. it doesn't mean it's the wrong position. i think the republican party does need to stand for continuing support for ukraine, that's a personal view, support for ukraine, that's a personalview, but support for ukraine, that's a personal view, but it's not a view, frankly, that a lot of republican primary voters have right now. and i think what it speaks to is this populist influence we see in the republican party in american politics more broadly. it is the ascendant possession, and that's driving what i think is a perspective for many republican primary voters that's quite divergent from what chris christie laid out the other night.— what chris christie laid out the other night. you mentioned ramaswamy — the other night. you mentioned ramaswamy and _ the other night. you mentioned ramaswamy and his _ the other night. you mentioned ramaswamy and his view - the other night. you mentioned ramaswamy and his view on . the other night. you mentioned| ramaswam

republicans. if you step back and are concerned about this country for your children and grandchildren, you have to say it is frustrating that republicans by and large refused to raise any taxes. we need more revenue. at the same time, it is frustrating to hear the president come out and say he will not touch social security and little care at all -- medicare at all. we need to make changes to save the benefits for future generations. host: congress is in the midst of passing spending bills, trying to avoid an economic deadline toward the end of the year. if that fails to happen, what do you think is the further impact considering what we've seen from the downgrade? guest: that is on everyone's mind, perhaps that is why fitch put it out right now. they did not say that explicitly, but there is already talk. are we going to have a government shutdown if we cannot get the agreement done by the end of september? people were saying the same thing about the debt ceiling back in may, they did reach that

is our local republican party. but he doesn't do a lot of the dirty work. he has people that do that for him. so this week we saw the 1st debates among potential republican presidential candidates and trump chose not to attend and still dominated the events. how could non trump republicans break through when the trump's cause is so dominant? well at this point i don't even know that that's possible. um if you look at donald trump support along with ronda sanchez, the florida governor, who's numbers who's 2nd and then bit back around the strongly young business person . they have about 85 percent of the vote between them and they are all very aligned in a world view in policies, in the way that they would govern. that they say that they want to govern the way they see about all, you know, american foreign policy. and that leads about 15 percent of republican voters for anybody else. and so at this point, i would say it's almost impossible the donald trump should be once the nomination wouldn't get it next year. so i

republicans or democrats? host: republicans. you wrote about them. guest: i think it worked out pretty well for republicans. people did not think speaker mccarthy was going to be able to get a republican only vote in the house. he did. they got a little progress on work requirements, which is something that they wanted badly. president biden agreed to it. i think the republican house, in the way that it is handling the debt ceiling debate has done well in that regard. given the inflation situation, the effort to limit spending and control spending is something that needs to be done because federal spending is what is causing the rise in inflation. host: for the house comes back, they have to deal with pending bills. if they could come together --are you concerned about a shutdown resulting as a part of that? guest: we have gotten used to the possibility of a shutdown because the politicians cannot work it out in time to avoid that, so i think it could happen. that is politics. that is the way our democracy works. i think it is a better system than an

ohio, jonathan on the republican line. caller: yes. i am a republican.publican party nominates donald trump, i will vote for joe biden. donald trump is a crook. people have died from his lies. if the republican party nominates him, i will vote for joe biden. host: dewayne, westbrook, maine, independent line. caller: i have been watching c-span since the early 80's when brian lam was there. i have to echo the sentiment of the pennsylvania carter -- pennsylvania caller. more americans identify as independents. starting the show with a question about foreign policy. both parties supported u.s. imperialism. we need to have parties in this country. we need to have representation. it does not represent the establishment of washington which was where brick capture. you do not give a voice to -- americans in this country are supposed to be a democracy but you only focus on team read and blue. there are both corporate co-opted. you have joe biden who is corrupt and has been in office for for years. we thought donald trump was corrupt. need to represent all the pr

my book american psychosis you know makes the argument think proves the argument that republican republican relationship with extremism goes back seven decades it's waxed its waned but that for that time period throughout that time period the gop has both encouraged and exploited extremism. it didn't start. we are with with the tea party, which is kind of the period that you're talking about. it didn't start with newt gingrich, which was another form of extremism in the nineties. and it started back in the fifties with mccarthyism. and then, you know, the relationship, the republican party, some of it and and the john birch society, which was basically outright paranoia that. the government is riddled with secret enemies, communists, dwight eisenhower was a communist agent that the commies have infiltrated basically every school, every business of every part of government trade unions. and you'd have the the director of the john birch society, a guy named welch, saying the communist party controls 80% of the united states. it was basically cunanan without babies and sex trafficking. i mean,

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the republicans are.o want to talk about just some magnificent figures in this indictment, i just think back to 2001, when rudy giuliani was america's mayor and there are people who worked with rudy giuliani, john avlon was a speech writer close to george usually henry. rudy giuliani could've had a statue for erected for him in about 2002 or 2003 in the center of times square. that is how popular he was, and now he's being indicted. in atlanta georgia. you have lawyers who are involved in this, you have bail bondsmen who are involved in, this and at the top of the scheme you have the president of the united states. i know that we have writer strikes and everything going on in hollywood, but you could not jump the shark like this with his indictment and when you look at how detailed this is, when you look at how -- they went out of the way to do to abuse people, determined people, and when you look at the fact that they were breaking into facilities, that they were going into voting booths, that they have

i don't think the republicans can make a without. i think inflation will be top of mind in both primary and general election. the gop will probably choose to attack biden rather than each other on that and the other piece of the picture is the ira which gave subsidies to green industries, green energy and so on. that is a key focus for the gop. that's equally economic culture were the gop base dislike initiatives that are on the green economy. the gop propose to cut the entire ira bill. in terms of deficit reduction given the gop is focusing on tax cuts of focusing on the other direction. they will try to look at the ira to reduce spending their and it won't have a big dent on the deficit. they will focus on rolling back initiatives. >> special issues intersecting, especially thinking about college debt, education loan forgiveness plan that was just stopped and there seems to be among the gop candidates, you would think there would be orthodoxy and low taxes but also an increasing dialogue about income inequality, labor unions and i

you kind to see where the republican, where the republican primary elect shirt is. right now. i was with mike france on january 6th. you damn righty. did the right thing. that was the right thing for our cost to sion in the country. and there should be no debate about it within the republican primary or anywhere else for that matter, but all of them accept visa, hutchinson, former governor barrick, arkansas, you know, essentially said that they would be supportive of donald trump, even if convicted of serious federal crimes and then he would, they would still support donald trump in that in that case. and so it raises this interesting question which i think conflicts a little bit with what you said shelby, how can both things be true? how can they both authentically, seriously want to be present of united states and still be so obsequious to the last president who's facing so many federal indictments? i think the simple answer is you look at the republican based as a whole, and when i'm on the ground talking to voters, which, you know, we've been to south carolina, new hampshi

host: john on the republican -- joan on the republican line calling from cleveland.d morning. i do not have my notes together. host: it is all right. whatever you want to say is fine. caller: ok. i think president trump was the best president we had. he had everything in order. his personal life, i do not want to go into it, that is his life. the going to personal life -- if we go into personal life about trump, we should go back to jill biden when he was dating joe before she was divorced. he did not even acknowledge his seventh grandchild. he is not thinking. whoever is giving him the information are putting him on a bad track. every time i turn around he is on vacation. this world is a total mess for what he is doing. our guys locked up in prison have no air conditioning. they have nothing. they are up in their cells. all these illegals coming over and going to the state, they are getting taken care of better than our own people. host: 10 more minutes on topic, the arraignment of donald trump. and comments on social media this morning about the arraignment today.

republicans. if you step back and are concerned about this country for your children and grandchildren, you have to say it is frustrating that republicans by and large refused to raise any taxes. we need more revenue. at the same time, it is frustrating to hear the president come out and say he will not touch social security and little care at all -- medicare at all. we need to make changes to save the benefits for future generations. host: congress is in the midst of passing spending bills, trying to avoid an economic deadline toward the end of the year. if that fails to happen, what do you think is the further impact considering what we've seen from the downgrade? guest: that is on everyone's mind, perhaps that is why fitch put it out right now. they did not say that explicitly, but there is already talk. are we going to have a government shutdown if we cannot get the agreement done by the end of september? people were saying the same thing about the debt ceiling back in may, they did reach that

republican party but not necessarity— of the republican party but not necessarily the _ of the republicannting an election and my - not wanting an election and my focus on other— not wanting an election and my focus on other world — not wanting an election and my focus on other world events. _ not wanting an election and my focus on other world events. the _ not wanting an election and my focus on other world events.— on other world events. the outside world looking _ on other world events. the outside world looking in _ on other world events. the outside world looking in on _ on other world events. the outside world looking in on this, _ on other world events. the outside world looking in on this, i'm - on other world events. the outside | world looking in on this, i'm always struck by looking for them thinking, how are world leaders going to react what donald trump presidency part two? clearly, does implications for ukrainian europeans and ukrainians went up to start thinking about that now. but how did the allies respond to a country that elects a president who was involved in so much

networks in the republican primary.'t try to beat trump and think you are going to get the nomination and tack back to the middle. you're so far gone from the middle that there is no amount of tacking back to the middle to make you palatable to the broad sweep of the american public who find what ron desantis has done in florida to be objectionable. >> we talk about the impact this has on the elections. the impact about the web as a nation -- weaponization of government having on our democracy, there is a striking number i have to ask you about. americans were asked about their overall confidence in the fbi. it is now at an all-time low. among democrats, it has gone up four points. this is back in 2018. down 12 points among republicans. it has tanked a whopping 24 points. it is part of a larger point. doesn't that number were you? >> the number one important statistic has been two generations if they do the right thing most of the time. 75% said yes. 12%, 19%, it bounces around. phenomenally low. imagine walking around

the elites are the elites of the republican party opposing the engine costs money for the republican elite and supporting trump, and these are part of the political structure, but i will give you a point. trump himself said in his speech that recently they found white powder in the real white house, which probably should be i know that the file of the captain's case cannot be opened to see who it belonged to, always a part of the american presidency is found and i don't know who it belonged to and he said that it does not exist, but we are checking the file of the archive that he had illicit relations and business, he confessed in 2014 that is why he was discharged from the american army the issue was fired no one has shown his beauty because the power is actually a privilege and the power of the executive is in the hands of the father. i said that trump had the power of the executive branch . weaken the political dimensions because my personal opinion is that if trump can actually succeed as a representative of the republican party , he will defeat a very strong desire in 2024, kama

the cynicism really stayed among the republican strategist class. i look back into the book and think about the interviews i had with the strategist is that if you look back at the obama era there's a lot of people in republican politics who got comfortable advancing things they knew were not true because the base really wanted it. there wasol always a little bitf this and politics surely on both sides. but the degree to which there was this anger and vitriol towards obama during the obama years that was partially bite race also by the conservative media ecosystem made republican strategists feel like they had to provide this red meat to that base to make sure the voters were excited that they were donating, they would turn out. and so there was a big disconnect began to expand between the people running the campaigns and the base voters. that disconnect help perpetuate a lot of the anger among the voters themselves and also got a lot of the strategists really comfortable going along with stuff they knew was not true. when i wrote about the game i w

it does have resonance with the republican primary electorate. host: into your point -- mike pence's point with elections being about the future, does this back and forth between the campaigns provide an opening for candidates who will talk -- not only talk, but propose about the future and break away from the arguments of what the current indictments are all about, or with the biden family is doing instead, focusing on issues in the campaign? guest: most voters do not want a rematch between trump and biden. that is not a popular set of choices. but if you look at polls of democratic and republican primary voters at the moment, the current trajectory is to provide that rematch. both men have healthy leads over their primary opponents. president biden does not really have a top-tier challenger of any kind. donald trump's lead over ron desantis is almost as big as president biden's lead is over robert kennedy junior. if one creates an opening for a centrist third party, whether it is no labels or someone else, some ambitious person may see a trump

so the idea that republicans care about the issue — we know republican voters care about it, we know—policy musings, but we didn't hear too much of the debate about specifically what the candidates would do to address this challenge. i expect that in the next debate you're going to hear more about this. lanhee, last question. it looks like republican voters are tending more towards the former president, vivek ramaswamy and ron desantis — are you worried about the republican party moving towards a more isolationist foreign policy? it is a concern. i believe the traditional "peace through strength" orientation of the republican party is something that is no longer ascendant, and i do feel that that's an element of what ramaswamy has talked about. certainly the former president has expressed those points of view at times, and ron desantis at times has expressed those points of view as well. so it is a great concern, but hopefully in the course of this debate and the course of things working themselves out, the more traditional, conservative republican view on foreign policy is something

2024 republican primary in colorado. if you don't have enough money to pay your rent or your staffers and you're bankrupt, i guess something's got to go, why not your basic function as a party. in arizona the messenger news outlet was first to report that arizona's state republican party reported in its federal election filings that it has only about $23,000 in the bank in total. and that might be enough to trade for a new hyundai elantra, but only as long as you don't want one with cruise control. with all the trouble of the arizona party being that broke, the highest profile election denier politician arizona republican party's failed gubernatorial candidate, carrie lake, she's heading soon to another state, to michigan, to help them raise some money. you'd think she might be able to help them raise money at home but, no, she's going there to help them raise some money. that said, maybe it's needed help. in michigan, they got trouble, too. the michigan state republican party is broke as well. it reported $93,000 total

he's not really what we would even have considered a republican before he decided to run for the republican party nomination. but she has turned the party into his vehicle. it now belongs to him, and it will be his as long as he wants it. so can you see any way that the republicans was chosen as its next presidential candidates because of all these criminal activity and legal activity around i mean short of him deciding he doesn't want to be the nominate or some exit outside event, you know, health problem or something like that hard for me to see how he's not depressed and how he's not the republican presidential nominee in 2024 fast. and i think thank you so much for joining us in the outlining that force me, galen, co founder of the lincoln project. are the kinds of denver where the government is proposing legislation that would make it illegal to desecrate to how many books in public would apply to the christian 5 of them, the jewish town. but there's no doubt that it's in response to a recent spite of public bindings of the muslim holy book, the correct denmark on neighboring sweden ha

republican side. republican voters care about the issues and the issues are what they are going to win on. democrats have nothing but fear and claiming racism and claiming climate change. that is the only thing democrats can talk about. it is all fantasy. republicans are talking about real issues that matter to people at home. that is what is going to resonate with the voters who don't particularly care about the political nonsense. >> exactly right. thank you so much, charlie. talk to you later. >>> up next, the trickiest dance these candidates will need to pull off tonight. acellus courses for parents independently homeschooling their children. our complete k through 12 homeschool program includes courses in math, science, social studies, reading and language arts. it also includes electives such as music, 3d printing and programing. power homeschool has really transformed our child's experience and allows her to work at her own pace. visit our website at power homeschool dot org to learn more and s

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republicans. many of you may have thought that takeover of our educational by anti-american marxists happened overnight. it didn't. it was five decades in the making for conservatives and republican chose not to notice it. and when they did notice it they were reluctant to fight. if you want to understand. and the disasters that have befallen our nation, you have to begin with the failure of republicans and to aggressively wage the political war necessary to defend. the anti-american attacks. patriotic americans as white supremacist, racist domestic terror is and is insurrectionist. and we respond by calling them liberals. there is nothing about them that is liberal. they are vindictive. bigots, determined. demonize and destroy us. their intimidation been working like a charm. while senator andrews able to get republicans to support principles of my academic bill of rights. they were only prepared to support a resolu, not a law so it lacked any teeth. enforce it. the democrat were happy with this

as conservative republicans we are constitutionallests. before the vote on impeachment where i thought we'd hit 25 because i talked to 25 people. i looked at those people that were going to vote for impeachment, and i recognized every one of them that ended up not voting that way. they always mentioned a concern what it meant for the re-election. >> congresswoman liz cheney was the third ranking republican in the house when she voted for impeachment because she was so concerned about where trump's big lie was leading the nation. >> you had local officials who were getting death threats. you had members of congress who said to me that they believe the president should be impeached after the 6th but that they were afraid to cast a vote that way because of their security, the security of their families. you know, that -- that is a place that we haven't been certainly since the civil war. and never when it -- when that threat of violence comes from a sitting president. >> and we're going to have to fight much harder. >> this will remain a canc

what is wrong with republicans. in real investigation would've been allowed to happen would've led to the conclusion the pelosi was an accomplished to a murder predict this is a measure criminal audios and how it has become. the biden inauguration was january 20th.. again the reason by they would unify the countryt and represet those who voted for him those who did not heard a series of executive orders, been illegally and unconstitutionally nullified our immigration laws and welcome the flood of - from 200 countries to evade the country. it was i say, this was illegal and unconstitutionally is no authority to change legislation. and barack obama went on 20 times of tv, pointing out that the constitution prevented him from missing with immigration laws they went ahead into the with the daca recipient great this destruction or southern border is the greatest crime ever committed by our government against our people. and another why the republicans don't everyday say this, but i'm about to say, they could get much bet

party republicans and -- republican right-leaning media sources as well.d i think these prosecutions to some extent are an outgrowth of that. but at the same time, if you do for instance lie about the legitimacy of the 2020 election, the lies lead several thousand people gathering at the capitol and violently attacking police officers. i do think there need to be consequences for that and american democracy needs to have a guard rail on norms that we've had for so long of protecting the basic pillars and foundations of the country. our prosecutions the best way to do that? i don't know. but when you have a system like this under attack, you need to find a way to hit back. one thing i would add that has concerned me more broadly is as the indictments pile up, some of them are stronger -- then the most recent one which revolved around the election lies being the strongest and most compelling. i'm not sure that voters will see these indictments as being separate. like the one in new york, that was filed first and may go to trial first. they are the result of

republicans. many of you may have thought that takeover of our educational by anti-american marxists happened overnight. it didn't. it was five decades in the making for conservatives and republican chose not to notice it. and when they did notice it they were reluctant to fight. if you want to understand. and the disasters that have befallen our nation, you have to begin with the failure of republicans and to aggressively wage the political war necessary to defend. the anti-american attacks. patriotic americans as white supremacist, racist domestic terror is and is insurrectionist. and we respond by calling them liberals. there is nothing about them that is liberal. they are vindictive. bigots, determined. demonize and destroy us. their intimidation been working like a charm. while senator andrews able to get republicans to support principles of my academic bill of rights. they were only prepared to support a resolu, not a law so it lacked any teeth. enforce it. the democrat were happy with this

then what is good for the republican party when republicans have a responsibility to govern? it goes poorly because that requires compromise. it requires new ones, and those are bad things for conservative. i would not want to be a mainstream republican lawmaker right now. i think it would be very hard to be a moderate republican in this climate when you have conservative media, conservative talk radio, setting an agenda. that is a very disciplined, no compromise agenda. it's going to make the job of a moderate lawmaker, very difficult republicans who do not pay to the extraordinary pressure exerted on them in washington today. you know who they are, their tomorrow's leaders. trump is the mom who will want to run for office for the republican party, knowing full well that you have these voices on the right core, going to say you can't compromise. you can't possibly negotiate. it's our way or the highway. and if you dare step one, step to the center, you're punished. the only did that conservative talk radio is hindering, rather than helping the republican party is a relativel

now, republicans in the ohio legislature and the republican governor in ohio, they have instituted an all but total abortion ban in the state, and ohio voters don't like it. and ohio voters are very likely going to overturn, they're going to vote to overturn ohio's abortion ban when they go to vote on it in november. everybody knows that. ohio pro choice people know that, ohio pro life people know that. people voted against republican abortion bans in every state where anybody has voted on it since dobbs, including in states like kansas and kentucky. so it's safe to say that voters are going to vote against republican abortion bans when they get the chance to do so in november in ohio. unless -- unless ohio republicans can rig it somehow. unless they can figure out a way to change the rules so ohio voters won't be allowed to do that. and that is why there's this big important vote tomorrow that is really worth watching. tomorrow, weird day for an election, right? august 8th. but yeah, that's on purpose. ohio republicans have put forward a single issue ballot measure that will raise th

where are you law and order the republican party? as we are talking about the news today, we want to remind all of you that today a celebration of the 60th anniversary of the march on washington will be held here in washington medici at the lincoln memorial -- washington, d.c. at the lincoln memorial. the family of martin luther king jr. will join activists and representatives from national organizations to celebrate the occasion. live coverage will begin at 10:30 a.m. eastern here on c-span. you can also watch it on our free mobile app, c-span now, or online at c-span.org. let's go back to our phone lines and talk to rodney calling from georgia on the republican line. the morning. -- good morning. caller: i was wondering if president biden and pelosi and others are part of the build a bear group. they don't want people to have anything and they want to control people. they are the ones that have been putting all these viruses out. i just wanted to see if everybody knew that they are part of that group and they don't want anyone to h

he's not really what we would even have considered a republican before he decided to run for the republican party nomination. but she has turned the party into his vehicle. it now belongs to him, and it will be his as long as he wants it. so can you see any way that the republicans words choose him as its next presidential candidates? because the civil list, criminal activity and legal activity around i mean short of him deciding he doesn't want to be the nominate or some exit outside event. you know, a health problem or something like that, hard for me to see how he's not depressed and how he's not the republican presidential nominee in 20245. so i think thank you so much for joining us and that outlining that force me, galen, co founder of the lincoln project or the denver where the government is proposing legislation that would make it illegal to desecrate to how many books in public it would apply to the christian 5 of them, the jewish town, but there's no doubt that it's in response to a recent spite of public bindings of the muslim holy book, the corrupt denmark on neighboring sweden

my advice to my republican friends, focus on your circus.got ours. >> the biden campaign a few days ago put out a statement after news came out that trump was not going to plan to come to the debate. biden's democratic challengers have called for debates. why is he not debating? >> one, president biden is the democratic nominee along with vice president harris. and if you look at both parties, when they have an incumbent president, that incumbent president participates in no debates, and there's no primary on our side. well, there's a primary, but the key to it is the fact that we've already endorsed president biden. no party has done it. i think it goes back to reagan and ford. so it's just something that has been well settled and it's just another issue that people want to use as a distraction from us, -- from us focusing on still delivering for the american people and making sure that we address the issues and the challenges that they face. >> something you hear from the former president, governor santis and a lot of the other republican

what does it mean to be a modern republican? - yeah. a modern republican is someone that believes that the united states built an international order after world war ii that benefited us, and if we don't defend that, that's going to impact us. a modern republican is someone that recognizes we should be able to secure the border, but we have to have humanity in dealing with the people that are coming here illegally. a modern republican is someone that understands that we have income inequality because we have education ineqlity. a modern republican is someone who's more interested in fighting war criminals like vladimir putin than discriminating against our friends in the lgbtq community. that is what a modern republican is. - the vision you just laid out is gonna resonate with moderate gop voters. trump's vice grip on the base of the party has been demoralizing to moderate republican voters. how do you plan to invigorate them? - well, look, it starts with speaking truth to power and not being afraid. you know, i had a speech impediment

, but republicans.e to other people situations. chiefly the bidens or hillary clinton. so that's why they do that. because while republicans may know mike pence to do a, thing with a really, really worried about is why did everybody else get away with stuff dame trump? so it's more than the january 6th. it's more to than that. >> i understand. there are several elements to this. for moderating that debate, i would ask ron. in the navy. if somebody from the top of the military to the bottom walked or left the service and talk with them highly classified documents were asked to return them, knowing didn't return them but obstructed the efforts of the government. wouldn't that person be prosecuted to the full extent of the law? >> and we really engaged in that substance tonight. >> lots more, head key moments and perspective on tonight's first republican candidates to make the case where they should be president. i need it cool at night. you trying to ice me out of the bed? baby, only on game nights. you k